I dunno. I'm torn between the idea that these freaks enjoy living like bugs in hives, or whether as you said they're just envious of people who live correctly.
Their utopian ideas aren't working and people aren't interested, so the new tack is "I am unhappy because other people don't share my suicidal-utopian dreams"
Neither. They primarily want to feel virtuous by forcing others to do what their globalist overlords have conditioned them to think will Save the Planet.
I had 2 trees (5 if you'd count 15' rhododendron bushes) when I moved in. In addition, I've since planted 6 more and allowed 2 new ones to grow where they sprouted. Plus lots of bushes, a raspberry patch, blueberries, a vegetable garden, and a whole bunch of hanging flower planters.
These people don't know what they're talking about, as usual.
I live in the woods surrounded by so many trees I don't even bother to try to count them. I only really think about them when they fall across the road and I have to pull out the chainsaw.
DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!
Dude, wtf is it with people like this and always using certain retarded spellings? Because I thought the exact same shit when reading the comment. I literally am slightly prejudiced when meeting someone and their name is a retarded spelling of a generally normal name.
Brilliant! Every 21-year-old, ever. I remember going through a period in my early 20's thinking I was like Kerouac roaming around the big city broke and scribbling unreadable personal "spontaneous prose" in notebooks. The poetic romance of poverty has a really short shelf life.
I've lived in cities most of my adult life and I prefer the countryside to the city or the suburbs.
If you want a serious answer - no there is no evolutionary benefit.
What we are seeing are humans socially devolving because we have destroyed their families, destroyed their schools and communities, and made them dependent on the government.
This started with inner city blacks. Its not going to end there. Whites are reaching critical mass of single parents, too. Once their grandparents' wealth is gone and they are in the dependent underclass itll be the same from there.
Amsterdam, huh? I'm sure the happiness and safety of kids has nothing at all to do with a homogenous society that values respect for your neighbors. Ship them to Detroit 48205 and see how well they do.
Yea that dumpster channel has been getting recommended to me a lot lately. I watched a few videos just to see what was up and its just parroting every globalist narrative on how cars and suburbs bad, cities and public transportation good. You see the exact same arguments being made on the ultra astroturfed /r/FuckCars as well. Basically anyone that isnt under bugman control is bad.
I cant think of any country more balkanized than US right now, so naturally everything sucks and people become miserable.
Then you have this weasel who uses his clear calm voice to build a narrative where children would be happier off in X (which just so happens to be within his political domain) rather than Y (which just so happens to be within my enemies political domain).
I dunno. Conservatives are happy with their conservative areas and have no plan to move to lefty areas.
Leftists constantly bitch about everything including their own cities which are run entirely by Democrats but still somehow their problems are the result of red voters. So they pack up their shit and move to a slightly less blue area like the outer ring of a big city in a red state.
Oh I'm sure they are. That's why the left refuses to leave the right alone and the false idea of moving to the city to have a good life is being promoted no matter what.
It reminds me of an old adage that I heard once:
There are two kinds of people: those wish to be left alone and those who refuse to leave others alone.
Conpro does it too. So I guess far left and far right both hate the suburbs for completely different reasons. The lefty city people hate suburbs for being too spread out, and too white. The conpros hate them for not being rural enough, "fake", and for abandoning cities to the whims of minorities. Weird.
If they have to live in a small appartment and don't even own a tiny patch of land to garden and play, they want to force you to live like that too. You will own nothing.
Not to mention the fantasy assumption that they are going to leave undeveloped green space for trees around the urban high-rise you moved in to from your single-family home instead of filling every space around you with similar high-density high rises.
I live in a city that purports itself as "green"; tons of hippies and student types, all politicians are "environmentalists" etc.
Last year, without batting an eye, city council voting to take an acre of greenspace by my building and turn it into "Permanent Supportive Housing"; 30 single units specifically built to warehouse the homeless. City bylaws explicitely state that the space they're using is required to stay green for the density we have here (it's also directly in the path of hundreds of children walking to school). They're just like "Nah, we vote to ignore that law".
Most importantly for these types, I suspect, the suburban house is yours, so you get to make decisions about selling a chunk of it off for a new house to be built.
If it's all apartments, owned by the state (or corporation), these budding authoritarians have already seen the possibilities to install as many soon-to-be-crack-dens (because nothing says "liberal city" like rampant crime and drug problems) as they want without you having any possibility of interfering.
I spent some time living in a major city. While it was fun, the absolute worst part was no nature access. A park doesn't cut it, and taking a train an hour and a half for a hike wasn't always feasible. It's ultimately an unsatisfactory way of living and I do think there is some jealousy.
Small towns of mixed sub-urb/rural sprawl with a "downtown core" of maybe three hundred acres of centralized economics is the way to go. The drawback to it is you'll have likely two-three big businesses "dominate" the town, and their success or failure will impact the town's QoL, but I think the benefits outweigh that risk.
In my childhood neighborhood, it was the opposite. Faggot cosmopolitans like him would move there from the city, and then immediately chop down whatever trees were on the property, replacing their yards with whatever trendy bullshit was popular at the time. They were too fucking lazy and stupid to deal with the cost of trees - trimming dead limbs, sweeping their entryway of dead leaves and pine needles, not parking their cars directly under sappy trees with no cover.
Not just the trees, either. So many bushes and ferns were ripped out and replaced with gravel and sawdust. Backyards were paved over. These days, the new thing is to fence everything off, because open borders proglodytes are afraid of homeless men coming onto their property.
Holy crap, you speak truth. I've watched that happen so many times. The value of the house rises and then drops badly a few years later. The entire neighborhood is sun scorched and dying from lack of shade, and then they put up walls and various items to make shade. The rent and cost of living goes up, and then the parasites move somewhere else.
|Implying the second option wouldn't quickly become 198 people, 10 trees (at least half of which are dead) like exists in every urban area I've ever seen.
Yeah, no, that's not how it works. Room has to be made for parking, putting trees so close to the buildings is a bad idea, cramming so many people together means there's going to be a greater abundance of pollution from trash being strewn about (especially since there's less ability and incentive for the residents to keep the area clean), and city planning isn't going to leave so much empty space there; it's just going to cram more buildings on that lot.
Regardless, Hollywood has always had this strange hatred of suburbs. They always portray it as some dystopia where everyone and everything is fake, willing to pull off some very creepy stuff to maintain the cleanliness of their neighborhoods, and/or are just hostile to outsiders. Likely all to do with the anti-white rhetoric they've been propagating for decades.
need to add in large piles of trash around every building and that all the trees are dead because the city doesn't do what's needed to keep them alive in that densely packed urban jungle.
Because American suburbs are perceived to be the products and the enablers of white flight from the city centres, starting back in the 50s/60s.
Anyone remember Erma Bombeck? The Grass is Always Greener Over the Septic Tank is about moving to the brand new, partly unfinished, 'burbs back in the day.
American suburbs were the result of white flight from city centers, lol. They integrated schools at gunpoint and then just expected everyone to be fine with it. Typical government arrogance.
I mean, I'm not a major fan of developments and HOAs. That's still fucking awful (fuck HOAs, grow corn in your front yard). But that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly support urbanite crap that's never going to be "48 people and 29 trees" (because all that space will be taken for you to live in your shitty pod apartments).
Urbanites hate what they can never have, so they have to develop these copes and argue that actually, it's a good thing they have no space to themselves besides 12 square feet. They have to convince themselves that it's great having to rely on public transport. They have to convince themselves that on top of all of this, it's a good thing that they rent and pay thousands for the privilege of their 12 square feet.
Urbanites need these memes to justify living in the least environmentally friendly places on the planet.
Urbanites need these memes to justify living in the least environmentally friendly places on the planet
To these people there is no such thing as a trade-off or differences in priorities, because they have the correct priorities so it makes no sense to make a trade-off. It can't be a case of, "I prefer my way of living, they prefer theirs, and that's ok." It has to be, "My way of living is unquestionably superior, and I have to enforce it on everyone else."
more like shops, businesses, factories, etc. Any trees planted are for decoration and will be cut down within 10 years. Apartments are consoomer cages.
Yeah, I can see ideally having 4-6 story apartments with underground parking surrounded by parkland, but nobody actually does that.
Cities make money on lot fees so if you have 100 acres to build on, $50,000 in lot fees per unit (lowballed), the city wants 100 houses paying $5mil as opposed to 3-4 apartment building paying a little more than that, not to mention property tax. Or, they'll do 3-4 10-20 story buildings with commercial in the bottom for a similar price.
The only urban areas you can find that high of a tree to person ratio are the decaying rustbelt hell-holes like Cleveland and detroit where nature is slowly reclaiming the crumbling infrastructure after all the productive members of society fled to the suburbs.
I just hope urbanites' hatred of everything wholesome keeps them in their concrete prisons so they cant spread their rot.
Here in the Southeast, there are trees everywhere that people haven't cut them down. That means that although there is a high level of development within the cities/suburbs, there are still a lot of trees in between everything. Easily 1 per person.
Some other places, trees only grow where people plant and water them. And then people complain there's not a lot of trees, and I'm like: nature doesn't create forests in this environment. The natural environment is shoulder-high grass with occasional clusters of trees.
Talk about a leading question. I love trees and nature. I also fucking love freedom, and part of that freedom is the right to individual property. I will not live in the pod, eat the bugs, lick the boot, etc. Get fucked, fascists.
"Gentle Urbanism"? Exactly when the fuck have we ever seen the land set aside in the city for X trees planted for every Y people in whatever urban tenement they're wishing into existence?
This is just more seething propaganda from sheep that can't handle the thought of being separated from their precious urban lifestyle.
r/fuckcars is full of these urban rats. Cities are cement shitholes full of trash and the garbage they produce. Suburban sprawl is a good thing as it makes better neighbors and prices most ghetto trash out of neighborhoods.
I live in the 'burbs and it's pretty gay - basically just a compromise for convenience sake. If it wasn't for the niggers I'd rather live in the city. Of course, the country is where I would prefer.
However there clearly is an attack on the suburbs with subsidies bringing in nogs that don't belong.
Maybe the older ones are decent (1/4+ acre lot) but anything built in the last 40 years is trash. I used to work on these and I can assure you that every corner was cut.
People go and pre-order these things.
They buy them before they're built, know nothing about construction, and so the builders just slap them together from a template to maximize profit. If you're living in a suburb, I guarantee there are serious issues with your house that you don't even know about.
I just did a job for a guy in a "luxury" suburb development. He lives on top of a hill, in a windy area, and they used shitty 3-tab shingles and nailed his siding; the roof didn't last 10 years and he hired me to stick his siding back on.
They also put some decorative pieces on to look like attic vents. He thought they were metal rusting, nope, painted spray foam literally dissolving in the weather. They didn't even screw it on, just pounded a couple of 6 inch spikes right through the vinyl siding.
At least in an apartment I'm not on the hook for fixing that nonsense.
With the modern suburban sprawl the houses are being built so close together they might as well be town homes. If one catches on fire their neighbors houses are also going to be severely damaged.
Suburbs do suck because they make us dependent on oil and auto companies which both hate us, and they allow the government to fuck with us by fucking with energy. lol if they think I'm going to accept the "solution" put forth by the people causing the problem in the first place though.
Broke: Suburbs
Woke: Gentle Urbanism
Bespoke: Medium density semi-autonomous nationalist enclaves.
Well, the way they were designed sure as fuck sucks, with all those cul-de-sacs (and Canadian suburbs followed that American style, too.) I think Cheddar has a video explaining how suburbs could have been more pedestrian-friendly except for the car companies themselves pushing for cars to be a necessity rather than an optional convenience.
The city I'm currently in sucks because fully half of it is fucking parking lot.
Oh boy, I fully expect to get flamed for this one.
For me, the issue is more to do with the way zoning laws work. Now, should we have a steel mill right next to a town square? No, of course not. Nobody is arguing that. I'm just tired of feeling trapped in a house unless I'm willing to burn half a tank of gas because boomers have decided that having sidewalks on both sides of the streets is antiquated and that people should yield to cars instead of the other way around. I'm sure some people are going to debate me on this and I look forward to their reply after they're done being stuck in a car driving from work for 20 minutes. And yes, I've had to driven for 15 minutes to and from work because modern zoning and shitty policies make it impossible to find walkable work.
I grew up in a place that was basically a bunch of factory neighbourhoods thrown together. Most of the men on my street worked for the wheel plant two or three blocks away; there were little mom and pop variety stores pretty much everywhere (and a larger neighbourhood market with a butcher counter), and schools, and a commercial street nearby with shops (and one of the last cobblers, I guess.) Everyone walked to school, and parks as well.
They will say this whilst in the same breath will romanticize cottage core whilst also not being able to actually live a cottage core life because that would involve living conservative.
There’s like 5 trees in just my yard lol.
Pretty sure this is just people coping about not being able to afford a house.
I dunno. I'm torn between the idea that these freaks enjoy living like bugs in hives, or whether as you said they're just envious of people who live correctly.
Maybe be both.
Their utopian ideas aren't working and people aren't interested, so the new tack is "I am unhappy because other people don't share my suicidal-utopian dreams"
Neither. They primarily want to feel virtuous by forcing others to do what their globalist overlords have conditioned them to think will Save the Planet.
I had 2 trees (5 if you'd count 15' rhododendron bushes) when I moved in. In addition, I've since planted 6 more and allowed 2 new ones to grow where they sprouted. Plus lots of bushes, a raspberry patch, blueberries, a vegetable garden, and a whole bunch of hanging flower planters.
These people don't know what they're talking about, as usual.
I have 7 trees, all cherries, I used to have 9 but one I had to cut and the other died. Between me and 2 neighbors we have more then 16 trees
I have 5, all fruit bearing. Two Loquats, two persimmon, one orange.
As of just a few years ago Had two other orange trees Avocado tree 4 massively like 5 story palm trees Fig tree Apple tree
Something got a lot of them sick. But yeah, a decade ago I had 14 trees, almost all of which made fruit, on 1/4 acre.
I live in the woods surrounded by so many trees I don't even bother to try to count them. I only really think about them when they fall across the road and I have to pull out the chainsaw.
I like using chainsaws tbh. I wouldn't exactly hate the opportunity if something like that happened regularly.
DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPMVQH_Vv04
This satire deserves your upvote fellas.
It's a good copypasta but I can't claim authorship
You are a true copypastafarian.
Holy fucking shit that's on on the money. I know a bunch of dudes like this.
And then I tell them I'd rather die than live where they do, and their can't wrap their minds around it.
My one criticism is that we all know it would be spelled Meghan
Dude, wtf is it with people like this and always using certain retarded spellings? Because I thought the exact same shit when reading the comment. I literally am slightly prejudiced when meeting someone and their name is a retarded spelling of a generally normal name.
Wait, which one is retarded? I've seen them both with about the same frequency.
Meghan. YMMV
Feminist mothers who like the smell of their own period farts.
They get some mad when you forget their variant spelling lol
Brilliant! Every 21-year-old, ever. I remember going through a period in my early 20's thinking I was like Kerouac roaming around the big city broke and scribbling unreadable personal "spontaneous prose" in notebooks. The poetic romance of poverty has a really short shelf life.
I've lived in cities most of my adult life and I prefer the countryside to the city or the suburbs.
This is a work of art. Frightening, but a work of art nonetheless.
10,000 people and zero crime, or 1,000,000 people and weekly mass shootings?
Gang shootings. Don't call them mass shootings. It plays into their hand.
There must be some evolutionary benefit in gang shootings, or they'd stop happening in such large numbers.
If you want a serious answer - no there is no evolutionary benefit.
What we are seeing are humans socially devolving because we have destroyed their families, destroyed their schools and communities, and made them dependent on the government.
This started with inner city blacks. Its not going to end there. Whites are reaching critical mass of single parents, too. Once their grandparents' wealth is gone and they are in the dependent underclass itll be the same from there.
LOL
Amsterdam, huh? I'm sure the happiness and safety of kids has nothing at all to do with a homogenous society that values respect for your neighbors. Ship them to Detroit 48205 and see how well they do.
Hmm I guess canals are "mass transit"
Yea that dumpster channel has been getting recommended to me a lot lately. I watched a few videos just to see what was up and its just parroting every globalist narrative on how cars and suburbs bad, cities and public transportation good. You see the exact same arguments being made on the ultra astroturfed /r/FuckCars as well. Basically anyone that isnt under bugman control is bad.
Sounds bullshit to me.
I cant think of any country more balkanized than US right now, so naturally everything sucks and people become miserable.
Then you have this weasel who uses his clear calm voice to build a narrative where children would be happier off in X (which just so happens to be within his political domain) rather than Y (which just so happens to be within my enemies political domain).
I dunno. Conservatives are happy with their conservative areas and have no plan to move to lefty areas.
Leftists constantly bitch about everything including their own cities which are run entirely by Democrats but still somehow their problems are the result of red voters. So they pack up their shit and move to a slightly less blue area like the outer ring of a big city in a red state.
Oh I'm sure they are. That's why the left refuses to leave the right alone and the false idea of moving to the city to have a good life is being promoted no matter what.
It reminds me of an old adage that I heard once: There are two kinds of people: those wish to be left alone and those who refuse to leave others alone.
That prick really deserves to be Box Truck Of Peace'd.
i thought he was a pretty neat guy, then he kept talking.
Conpro does it too. So I guess far left and far right both hate the suburbs for completely different reasons. The lefty city people hate suburbs for being too spread out, and too white. The conpros hate them for not being rural enough, "fake", and for abandoning cities to the whims of minorities. Weird.
Fine. Stay in the city. Plus the mask in the profile speaks for itself.
The post is from pre-Ukraine invasion February.
I'm sure their avatar is a Ukraine flag or a My Body, My Choice or a Gun Control caricature now.
True. Current thing
Nah, its june so its the new Ukraine + Pride flag
If they have to live in a small appartment and don't even own a tiny patch of land to garden and play, they want to force you to live like that too. You will own nothing.
Not to mention the fantasy assumption that they are going to leave undeveloped green space for trees around the urban high-rise you moved in to from your single-family home instead of filling every space around you with similar high-density high rises.
Yep. Green space to them is just temporary empty space that hasn't been filled with a tent city/tenements yet.
Spot on.
I live in a city that purports itself as "green"; tons of hippies and student types, all politicians are "environmentalists" etc.
Last year, without batting an eye, city council voting to take an acre of greenspace by my building and turn it into "Permanent Supportive Housing"; 30 single units specifically built to warehouse the homeless. City bylaws explicitely state that the space they're using is required to stay green for the density we have here (it's also directly in the path of hundreds of children walking to school). They're just like "Nah, we vote to ignore that law".
No such thing as a "green" city.
Most importantly for these types, I suspect, the suburban house is yours, so you get to make decisions about selling a chunk of it off for a new house to be built.
If it's all apartments, owned by the state (or corporation), these budding authoritarians have already seen the possibilities to install as many soon-to-be-crack-dens (because nothing says "liberal city" like rampant crime and drug problems) as they want without you having any possibility of interfering.
I spent some time living in a major city. While it was fun, the absolute worst part was no nature access. A park doesn't cut it, and taking a train an hour and a half for a hike wasn't always feasible. It's ultimately an unsatisfactory way of living and I do think there is some jealousy.
Small towns of mixed sub-urb/rural sprawl with a "downtown core" of maybe three hundred acres of centralized economics is the way to go. The drawback to it is you'll have likely two-three big businesses "dominate" the town, and their success or failure will impact the town's QoL, but I think the benefits outweigh that risk.
If you pay property taxes, you still own nothing.
In my childhood neighborhood, it was the opposite. Faggot cosmopolitans like him would move there from the city, and then immediately chop down whatever trees were on the property, replacing their yards with whatever trendy bullshit was popular at the time. They were too fucking lazy and stupid to deal with the cost of trees - trimming dead limbs, sweeping their entryway of dead leaves and pine needles, not parking their cars directly under sappy trees with no cover.
Not just the trees, either. So many bushes and ferns were ripped out and replaced with gravel and sawdust. Backyards were paved over. These days, the new thing is to fence everything off, because open borders proglodytes are afraid of homeless men coming onto their property.
Holy crap, you speak truth. I've watched that happen so many times. The value of the house rises and then drops badly a few years later. The entire neighborhood is sun scorched and dying from lack of shade, and then they put up walls and various items to make shade. The rent and cost of living goes up, and then the parasites move somewhere else.
It's ridiculous.
Especially when these same people want "one billion Americans" immigration policy.
They should, that bitch looks like a victory condition on Cities Skylines.
|Implying the second option wouldn't quickly become 198 people, 10 trees (at least half of which are dead) like exists in every urban area I've ever seen.
I'd say urban mixed use is better than soulless suburb wasteland where I have to drive 10 minutes to get a gallon of milk.
Yeah, no, that's not how it works. Room has to be made for parking, putting trees so close to the buildings is a bad idea, cramming so many people together means there's going to be a greater abundance of pollution from trash being strewn about (especially since there's less ability and incentive for the residents to keep the area clean), and city planning isn't going to leave so much empty space there; it's just going to cram more buildings on that lot.
Regardless, Hollywood has always had this strange hatred of suburbs. They always portray it as some dystopia where everyone and everything is fake, willing to pull off some very creepy stuff to maintain the cleanliness of their neighborhoods, and/or are just hostile to outsiders. Likely all to do with the anti-white rhetoric they've been propagating for decades.
I wouldn't say always. Sitcom writers at least seemed to be ok with them for a while for a few decades.
They hate the idea of people having their own property.
other people.
They deserve your property.
It's different.
FTFY
need to add in large piles of trash around every building and that all the trees are dead because the city doesn't do what's needed to keep them alive in that densely packed urban jungle.
Dredd to control, we'll take peachtrees.
Because American suburbs are perceived to be the products and the enablers of white flight from the city centres, starting back in the 50s/60s.
Anyone remember Erma Bombeck? The Grass is Always Greener Over the Septic Tank is about moving to the brand new, partly unfinished, 'burbs back in the day.
American suburbs were the result of white flight from city centers, lol. They integrated schools at gunpoint and then just expected everyone to be fine with it. Typical government arrogance.
I mean, I'm not a major fan of developments and HOAs. That's still fucking awful (fuck HOAs, grow corn in your front yard). But that doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly support urbanite crap that's never going to be "48 people and 29 trees" (because all that space will be taken for you to live in your shitty
podapartments).Urbanites hate what they can never have, so they have to develop these copes and argue that actually, it's a good thing they have no space to themselves besides 12 square feet. They have to convince themselves that it's great having to rely on public transport. They have to convince themselves that on top of all of this, it's a good thing that they rent and pay thousands for the privilege of their 12 square feet.
Urbanites need these memes to justify living in the least environmentally friendly places on the planet.
To these people there is no such thing as a trade-off or differences in priorities, because they have the correct priorities so it makes no sense to make a trade-off. It can't be a case of, "I prefer my way of living, they prefer theirs, and that's ok." It has to be, "My way of living is unquestionably superior, and I have to enforce it on everyone else."
I prefer all that land, one house, 1100 trees, me in it far far away from any urbanity. While the entire city burns by the haters' hands.
How about hundreds of trees, zero people?
That is the end-goal of many globalists, for areas that do not contain themselves.
more like shops, businesses, factories, etc. Any trees planted are for decoration and will be cut down within 10 years. Apartments are consoomer cages.
Where does “gentle urbanism” even exist?
Cities that have that level of population density don’t typically have very many trees.
Yeah, I can see ideally having 4-6 story apartments with underground parking surrounded by parkland, but nobody actually does that.
Cities make money on lot fees so if you have 100 acres to build on, $50,000 in lot fees per unit (lowballed), the city wants 100 houses paying $5mil as opposed to 3-4 apartment building paying a little more than that, not to mention property tax. Or, they'll do 3-4 10-20 story buildings with commercial in the bottom for a similar price.
Cities make money on taxes. Commercial is where the real money is at.
The only urban areas you can find that high of a tree to person ratio are the decaying rustbelt hell-holes like Cleveland and detroit where nature is slowly reclaiming the crumbling infrastructure after all the productive members of society fled to the suburbs.
I just hope urbanites' hatred of everything wholesome keeps them in their concrete prisons so they cant spread their rot.
Here in the Southeast, there are trees everywhere that people haven't cut them down. That means that although there is a high level of development within the cities/suburbs, there are still a lot of trees in between everything. Easily 1 per person.
Some other places, trees only grow where people plant and water them. And then people complain there's not a lot of trees, and I'm like: nature doesn't create forests in this environment. The natural environment is shoulder-high grass with occasional clusters of trees.
Talk about a leading question. I love trees and nature. I also fucking love freedom, and part of that freedom is the right to individual property. I will not live in the pod, eat the bugs, lick the boot, etc. Get fucked, fascists.
Mask on profile pick = pronouns in bio = opinions are irrelevant.
"Gentle Urbanism"? Exactly when the fuck have we ever seen the land set aside in the city for X trees planted for every Y people in whatever urban tenement they're wishing into existence?
This is just more seething propaganda from sheep that can't handle the thought of being separated from their precious urban lifestyle.
r/fuckcars is full of these urban rats. Cities are cement shitholes full of trash and the garbage they produce. Suburban sprawl is a good thing as it makes better neighbors and prices most ghetto trash out of neighborhoods.
I live in the 'burbs and it's pretty gay - basically just a compromise for convenience sake. If it wasn't for the niggers I'd rather live in the city. Of course, the country is where I would prefer.
However there clearly is an attack on the suburbs with subsidies bringing in nogs that don't belong.
Suburbs are objectively shite.
Maybe the older ones are decent (1/4+ acre lot) but anything built in the last 40 years is trash. I used to work on these and I can assure you that every corner was cut.
People go and pre-order these things. They buy them before they're built, know nothing about construction, and so the builders just slap them together from a template to maximize profit. If you're living in a suburb, I guarantee there are serious issues with your house that you don't even know about.
I just did a job for a guy in a "luxury" suburb development. He lives on top of a hill, in a windy area, and they used shitty 3-tab shingles and nailed his siding; the roof didn't last 10 years and he hired me to stick his siding back on.
They also put some decorative pieces on to look like attic vents. He thought they were metal rusting, nope, painted spray foam literally dissolving in the weather. They didn't even screw it on, just pounded a couple of 6 inch spikes right through the vinyl siding.
At least in an apartment I'm not on the hook for fixing that nonsense.
Commie faggots hate single family homes.
i'd rather have my own house than have to deal with whatever diversity you want to subject me to.
With the modern suburban sprawl the houses are being built so close together they might as well be town homes. If one catches on fire their neighbors houses are also going to be severely damaged.
They hate what they can't have.
Suburbs do suck because they make us dependent on oil and auto companies which both hate us, and they allow the government to fuck with us by fucking with energy. lol if they think I'm going to accept the "solution" put forth by the people causing the problem in the first place though.
Broke: Suburbs
Woke: Gentle Urbanism
Bespoke: Medium density semi-autonomous nationalist enclaves.
Well, the way they were designed sure as fuck sucks, with all those cul-de-sacs (and Canadian suburbs followed that American style, too.) I think Cheddar has a video explaining how suburbs could have been more pedestrian-friendly except for the car companies themselves pushing for cars to be a necessity rather than an optional convenience.
The city I'm currently in sucks because fully half of it is fucking parking lot.
Not a fan of suburbs either but that pic is a gay comparison.
Oh boy, I fully expect to get flamed for this one.
For me, the issue is more to do with the way zoning laws work. Now, should we have a steel mill right next to a town square? No, of course not. Nobody is arguing that. I'm just tired of feeling trapped in a house unless I'm willing to burn half a tank of gas because boomers have decided that having sidewalks on both sides of the streets is antiquated and that people should yield to cars instead of the other way around. I'm sure some people are going to debate me on this and I look forward to their reply after they're done being stuck in a car driving from work for 20 minutes. And yes, I've had to driven for 15 minutes to and from work because modern zoning and shitty policies make it impossible to find walkable work.
I grew up in a place that was basically a bunch of factory neighbourhoods thrown together. Most of the men on my street worked for the wheel plant two or three blocks away; there were little mom and pop variety stores pretty much everywhere (and a larger neighbourhood market with a butcher counter), and schools, and a commercial street nearby with shops (and one of the last cobblers, I guess.) Everyone walked to school, and parks as well.
I miss that.
They will say this whilst in the same breath will romanticize cottage core whilst also not being able to actually live a cottage core life because that would involve living conservative.
If I wanted to live in high-density housing (i.e. the city), I would. Fuck off.