I think it helps to have a nuanced opinion and make sure we don't spiral into an echo chamber. For my example, I've found that lefties are able to identify a lot of the right problems, it's just that they think gay space communism is the solution to it.
For instance, I completely agree that North American cities are really stupidly designed. The car-centric nature of them means you're stranded if your vehicle breaks down. The fact that you have to go into debt to buy this big stupid box to navigate your own city is ridiculous in the first place.
But when it comes to their solutions for this they can't separate their stupid idpol nonsense from it. My local city government keeps talking about "equitable solutions" to traffic and pedestrian fatalities. Typical "world ending, women most affected" type stuff.
Plus they keep droning on about high density housing which absolutely no one wants to live in. in their utopia we'd all live in depressing Soviet-style block apartments.
By design, cash for clunkers got rid of a ton of usable used cars off the market. Cars do not need to be 40-50k+. They are only this way because of the Government and activists who want you to be reliable on a centralized service. They do this by pricing you out and forcing you onto their shitty socialized transit services.
I love my car, always have, always will. I drive a 08 that runs like new because I take care of it and the thing has taken me all over the country. I don't care about cities at all they can go fuck themselves. They suck anyways, I don't know why anyone with a brain would want to live in one. Especially in 2024.
Cities are bullies.
Only people who live in cities, and have no reason to go anywhere but other cities, are against price car ownership. Those people seem to lack the ability to understand just how far apart rural America is from each other. To them, a bus, train or (ironically) someone else's privately owned Uber can get them anywhere at pretty much any time. They don't seem to understand that even 30 miles would become insurmountable in rural America without your own vehicle.
Although, they probably do understand and just hate us.
There is a massive disconnect between city dwellers and us more rural folk. They refuse to understand our way of life. They just assume you can uber to the nearest place. When in reality the nearest grocery store is 40 miles from me. How the fuck am I supposed to get to it with government funded socialized transit in bum fuck nowhere?
I don't think anyone but the most extreme lefties want to outlaw private vehicle ownership. What I'm getting at with the walkability stuff is that it would be nice to be able to walk around my own neighborhood without being put in mortal danger from mongoloids in Dodge Chargers.
I understand your concern and worries. I'm just worried about city dwellers dictating policy for the entire State or Country. California for example passes emission laws. My State did not, but car manufactures build their cars to suit California laws because they are bigger than us. Then they use the adoption as a wedge in to passing laws mandating California laws at the Federal level.
Therefore my stance is any pro city policy in the largest cities in the State will inevitably be used to bully the smaller areas of population within the State to fall in line. There are other examples, not car related, that have played out in our history. I will admit I have a huge bias against cities.
I don't believe humans were meant to live in the conditions of the city. I think it breeds moral decay. It can work to degrees under different circumstances but it is not ideal. All it does is create more problems in the end, especially given the changing makeup of the population, like worrying about mongoloids in dodge chargers running you down.
speaking of emission laws, ever wonder why pickups all of a sudden got so big and boxy a decade or two ago?
emission laws
Perfect example...look at the voting habits of Illinois. One city dictates the direction for the entire state. Anything outside Chicago and the collar counties are blue, the rest of the state is red.
Funny enough this is a wonderful example of the kind of thing that the Interstate Commerce Clause is supposed to prevent.
If it were ever enforced honestly CA would have to abolish hundreds of state laws.
Cities have pros and cons like anything else. I do plan to divest myself from city life, but the time frame is probably 10 years. The things it offers are starting to get worse while the problems are amplified.
It would be easier to leave if I didn't own property or have a family. In the meantime I do think there are ways to improve but I don't trust city government to implement anything correctly.
I think that issue is more of a mongoloid problem than a Dodge Charger problem, though.
Dodge Chargers are like pitbulls. Only the worst demographics go for them.
That has more to do with crime than car ownership now doesn't it?
It has to do with there being zero pedestrian infrastructure.
Wide sidewalks, crosswalks and skywalks aren't enough for you? What do you want, no roads at all?
City Urban Libral Type energy right there.
There are plenty of places tbat qualify as "city" without being the huge urban megacities, that do not consistently have sidewalks, etc.
My neighborhood has no sidewalks at all.
You can’t rely on pedestrian and public transit infrastructure when your city is overrun with “diversity”. Violence and crime literally follow public transit wherever it goes. That’s the reason why America doesn’t invest in these areas like Europe does.
Even Euroids are giving up on walking, if that Bluesky picture of cars parked on their narrow, walkable roads is any indication.
They want to outlaw it by strangling it to death with ridiculous burdensome regulation.
What you're getting at is you're a hyperbolic twatwaffle.
What a productive and intelligent thing to say.
Except on public trans now I'm put in mortal danger of mongoloids sharing the public trans with me. Honestly, if there was a 100% white city, or even like... 100% non-black city, people would be much more inclined to use public trans and not have suburbs. I bought my home in my zip because there were no blacks when I moved in. Blacks are starting to move in, and now for the first time in 30 years in this community I'm considering moving out to a rural area. Vandalism, graffiti, littering, crime, noisy disruptions, blaring music at midnight have all spiked with just a 1-2% increase in blacks over the past 5 years.
Urban faggots don't lack the ability to understand, they actively despise anyone in "flyover states".
There is so much waste in modern cars that its fucking insane, so many 'upgrades' are already in the car and are just locked behind software you have to pay for. All the car prices are inflated because of all the un-necessary bullshit in em and most of the time the mileage they get is worse than cars from decades ago.
Especially when every car out there now apparently spies on you and reports you to your insurance how you drive and other such bullshit to make even more money.
One of many reasons I prefer pre 2010 vehicles. It is wild how much information they are siphoning from you with new cars. I'm sure all that data will be put to better our lives right? Rhetorical, fuck no its not, it will only be used to fuck you over in insidious small ways.
What's funny is that this was all a slippery slope from "seatbelt notifications."
Because once you have one "for your safety" program on by default in your car, then they will just keep putting more and more in until you have dozens of electronic noises constantly pulling the wheel in your hand, hitting the brake, and yelling at you.
Another big blame is the Euro NCAP deducting points from crash safety if such "features" don't come standard. The thing is though, despite all this technology being added the past 20 years, national crash safety rates have barely improved at all.
Literally my SAAB from 2002 has side curtain airbags etc.
I think the biggest improvement for crash safety that can be made is driver education, and getting rid of the light truck tax loophole and reduce taxes on normal passenger cars.
Just look at trucks. They have become status symbols because they are expensive, and they are big and expensive because of government mandated safety and economy. Meanwhile the Toyota Hilux Champ is a 3/4 ton pickup that will get 20+ MPG and costs less than a worn out Tabroma.
Please don't insult your trusty vehicle. If you've bought a brand-new car recently, you would realize what you said.
I saw someone write "The are only two acceptable reasons for living in NYC. 1) you're young and trying to get laid. 2) you're Hasidic."
16 comments and nobody has anything to say about israel?
Nothing?
Ok, I'll start. Tik Tok is mostly correct about israel. Leftist comedians on Tik Tok are mostly correct about israel.
Tik Tok is also mostly correct about the Standard American Diet being Goy Slop™ that is filled with chemicals and other shit that is killing us. (goyim are gentiles compared to cattle in the talmud, the holy book of jews, which also says Jesus is boiling for all eternity in a pit of feces in hell)
The left is anti-israel because they believe jews are white, and thus are filtering the israel/palestine conflict through all the anti-white bullshit they've been taught. The israelis are 'white oppressors', the palestinians are 'oppressed people of color', that's the depth of their understanding. They don't know about the talmud, mossad, AIPAC, or everything else that dom will ban me again for reiterating.
To be fair, there are a LOT of jews on social media who flip flop on being White or Jewish to capitalize on whichever is most advantageous at that time. So I don't blame Leftists for having that point of view.
Its unironically the Jewish word game abuse they invented working against them.
Because Jewishness is both an ethnic group and a religion depending on what's more beneficial at the time for them to say.
In the same way "white" is both a color designation (which Jews would fall under) and a cultural/ethnic group that they hate (which Jews reject being a part of).
So now they get lumped in because their own golems aren't willing to play 20 questions when they see pink skin, they just assume "white" and go to attack.
I can still point and laugh when they get hoisted by their own petard, though.
As you should.
Exactly, instead of being just against Israel, the woke feminist left promote and support Palestine. Which is just as bad. Just like TERF, the basis of this support is their seething hatred of white men.
TERFs are a good comparison; the left stumbled into the correct position, but for all the wrong reasons. TERFs hate trannies because TERFs are feminists, hate men, and worship women. The left hates Israel because they're imperialistic, successful and, yes, allegedly "white."
They only hate trans women, not trans men. They don't care if trans men invade male spaces. They OK with it. Just like the left are ok if muslims invade Israel and the western world. Gays for Palestine remember?
Nobody cares about FTM transsexuals because they're not a threat. They combine the physical strength of a woman with the social strength of a 5'2" manlet.
They could be a real rising star in the category of "confused, retarded loners with nothing to lose but the validation of their FBI handler" mass shooters though. Probably don't want them around for that reason alone.
"Even a stopped clock" and all that.
That's definitely part of it, but I think it's more "power dynamics," underdog mentality, oppressor vs oppressed, class struggle, imperialism, and all that bullshit.
"White" is a a part of it...but they hate Israel because Israel is objectively successful. Love Israel or hate Israel, but there's no denying they're successful, impressively so. We can discuss how and why, and with whose money they're successful, but the pro-Israel narrative that they're almost miraculously strong in the region is true. They pull off some incredible feats in their conflicts, fairly regularly. Inhumane, but incredible.
The left hates Israel for the same reason they hate the West; Israel is more successful than the 'poor and downtrodden.' It's just more communism, just more class struggle. The left hates Israel for all the wrong reasons.
I'm glad you put that qualifier there.
That isn't "the left" though, is the funny part.
It's Tik Tok, and that means it's China.
That's who owns it (for now). It's a very left-leaning platform.
A great deal of leftism in the West is because of China, whether most people see it, and want to admit it, or not. China inherited all sorts of spy programs, cultural infiltration, traitors, shady business, deals, etc from the USSR when it collapsed. China picked up the fallen banner and continued where the Soviets left off, with the benefit of being able to see what the USSR did wrong and try to avoid it. Most of the feminist groups, racial militancy groups, LGBTQ groups, the thousands of college radical "Students for a Democratic Socialist Revolutionary Vanguard Front Blah Blah Blah" that all cropped up in the 60's; all created, funded, and directed by the USSR. China stepped in and just assumed control via keeping the money flowing. TikTok is just one of the many tools China wields against us. But if something is degenerate, leftist, communist, anti-liberty, or poisonous to a coherent high trust society, China has its hand in it somewhere.
I find that they're right about a lot of systems being abusive. We talk about changing things so the system isn't abusive, but they just want to be the abusers.
Came here to say this, and it's probably what the left is most correct about. The system is broken, and does favor the elite. Their answer is communism and more oppression, and just differently distributed unfairness, but they have at least identified genuine problems, to their credit.
It's sadly ironic. We might be able to reach common ground on that issue...but they're so focused on their precious class struggle that they even despise the middle class. Ideally we should be trying to make the system more fair so people could, through their own effort, more easily enter a middle class lifestyle. But the left is so resentful they'd rather destroy it, bringing us all down to the very lowest level, instead of getting out of the way and letting people actually lift themselves up.
The health insurance system is fucked up, the whole incestuous three-way between insurance, hospitals, and government needs to be addressed. It was bad, Obama made it worse, there's blame to go around.
I don't have a solution, I don't want single payer but at the same time I don't want a family to lose their ass when one member gets diagnosed with something nasty.
I was going to say healthcare in general as well.
The left's solutions to healthcare are expensive, retarded and magical thinking. But they are more compelling and easier to sell.
The right's talking points about healthcare post-COVID mostly focus on choice and individual responsibility regarding one's health in an attempt to sidestep the system altogether.
But eventually everyone's going to be struck by an Act of God or simply break down and get old.
The solution to cities is not to make cities walkable. The solution to cities is to get rid of them. Cities encourage anti-social and anti-natalist behavior due to crowding. As much as the left hates suburbia, that level of density is 1000x better than urban densities on the human psyche.
The pro-density anti-car crowd have got to be the biggest retards in the world, and it pisses me off to no end how much power they hold over most city planning departments now.
I'm not sure if I'm more baffled by the ones that actually want to live that way, or the ones who think it's the way to make housing more affordable (despite absolutely zero real-world examples of that ever happening anywhere it's been tried).
A fun question to ask city-dwelling friends is how many of their neighbors they know. Not even friends with, just know basic info like their names and jobs. Unsurprisingly, they say one or two tops, despite living near dozens of people. Most say none. A neighbor to them is something vague like "guy who plays guitar at 6 in the morning."
I think the cultural push to reframe suburbia as lame, boring, cookie-cutter, and fake that started gaining steam in the 90s was manufactured specifically because suburbia has a lot of strengths. All those things that an angry 17yo who just wants to be edgy and different thinks are stupid; trick or treating, block BBQs and yard sales, neighborhood Christmas light contests, big 4th of July parties and multiple families setting off fireworks in the street, Girl Scouts selling cookies door to door, young boys mowing lawns or shoveling snow for their first taste of real work for pay, etc. Those are all great things that build community and social cohesion. They also can only really happen in a demographically homogenous area. Painting all that as stupid and boring stuff fuddy duddy dads and 'soccer moms' like was a deliberate attempt to undermine them, and it worked. Now even in a lot of suburban areas, neighborhoods don't do that stuff anymore and we're all worse off for it.
There is also the poison pill of demographic diversity that was deliberately force fed into many suburban neighborhoods, causing crime and anti-social behavior to skyrocket, which caused social trust to plumet, and a lot of parents who still live in suburbs won't let their kids do the exact same things they were doing in similar neighborhoods 15-20 years ago. No more kids waiting for the bus by themselves or riding bikes to school, playing outside til the streetlights come on, boys just finding a patch of woods near the neighborhood and getting lost playing army in them every day all summer, no more trusting your neighbor with a key to your house just in case, or getting the high school girl 4 houses down to babysit. Most people don't even speak to their neighbors anymore.
Suburbia used to be one of our real greatest strengths, and it was destroyed on purpose because it was.
European cities were fine for over a millenia. What changed? Modernism, created by the tiny hats.
European cities were still dirty and full of anti-social dipshits over those millennia. They just had the benefit of being a defense against invading forces. Cities don't even provide that now.
The left is correct when it comes to the police.
They demonstrated during the lockdowns and the 2020 race riots that they will gladly choose their own paycheck over honoring peoples' God-given rights bestowed upon us in the US Constitution, and that they are willing jackboots for the establishment who would gladly accept orders to commit door-to-door gun confiscation. Even places like West Virginia and rural Tennessee where Sheriffs would rebel against such orders are the exceptions that prove the rule.
It took ages, but even TheDonald of all places eventually got on board with this viewpoint, even if they had to be dragged there kicking and screaming.
Add to that the legal system is pretty fucked as well. Anything involving a lawyer is expensive and public defenders are employed by the state coming after you.
The police are just the enforcement arm of the establishment. They are completely coloured by whoever those in power happen to be. In our time, that means they are corrupt, bureaucratic, meddlesome sociopaths, drunk on power.
I believe they have been, at times in the past, significantly better.
I actually did this a year ago but that was on practical application rather than culturally.
So long as we avoid the self identification bullshit, they have a point on a lot of the structures being designed to create issues, the problem is that their solution is ALWAYS "and that's why you should give us ALL the controls to said systems" and no talk of reforming them.
I'm convinced more and more the left are toddlers having a tantrum because THEY don't get to have ALL the candy.
I do agree that they have a sort of arrested development. Most of the commies I knew IRL were just the spoiled kids that wanted the government to take the place of mom and dad doing everything for them.
Yep, ask anyone not reduced to a living automaton in a communist country, if you give them the option to leave, they'll swim a fucking ocean to do it!
These 'commies' in the West just read the book cover of 'government handles everything' not the actual contents.
I think companies using clean methods and limiting environmental impact is a good thing.
It's such a travesty that the entirety of the left's environmental focus somehow shifted from all the actual harmful shit getting dumped into our living spaces to caring only about something as practically harmless in comparison as CO2.
Agreed but then when you try to find common ground they can be some climate nuts or opposed to nuclear power
DING
they want clean power but refuse to acknowledge that nuclear is really the only way you can do it at scale while maintaining our Way of Life
because they don't want our way of life to be maintained.
The left's tendency to view large corporations and multinational businesses with suspicion is something I think most of us agree with. As you said, their problem is that their proposed solutions would just make everything worse. And of course, they're so easily brainwashed that it was trivial to convince them many of those corporations were suddenly good for as long as they spouted leftist talking points.
Agree about that but it’s also disheartening to see so many young ppl on the left who have this deep hatred for anyone who is wealthier or has it better in life. Nobody taught them that life isn’t always fair and some people simply will have it better
A flip side to that is there are quite a few people on the right who have a "fuck you, I got mine, if you didn't then just go die" attitude. This is especially egregious in the older crowd, as they got theirs when it was a lot easier. The whole "Sorry I didn't buy a house when they were $50,000, I was too busy being 2 years old" meme has a lot of truth to it that those people don't want to acknowledge. It's very similar to how married men in their 50s and 60s won't acknowledge how the dating market has changed disastrously since the last time they were in it. "It was easy for me, so if you didn't achieve what I did, it must be your fault, and since you're complaining about it, it also means you're lazy and selfish, so fuck you" is a very dominant attitude among many older people on the right. While there may be some truth to it for some people, it also drives a lot of younger people away from the right. You don't bring people to your side by sneering at them. The Left's 'solutions' while totally unworkable, unethical, cancerous, evil, and insidious, are at very least designed to emotionally appeal to people and seem more palatable. The right hasn't learned that being the more attractive option, regardless of merit, carries a lot of weight with most people. The Right is very often horrible at selling conservatism, even if it's correct. The Left is very good at selling leftism, even though it's awful.
Once again the right's biggest strengths are also our biggest weakness. We are disagreeable and individualistic by nature. We don't care all that much for 'consensus building', and older right wing people really struggle to let go of the 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' meme. Trying to get right wingers to work together towards anything is like herding cats.
That is a good. Although there is the issue of inflation and unfortunately you have those who want more and more spending or “free stuff” but don’t realize the consequences. You are correct about the left being great with appealing to emotion.
More importantly nobody taught them that success is not the result of either luck or perfidy.
That's the foundation of economic leftism. The idea that if someone has more stuff than you do that they attained it illegitimately.
Which of course has it's roots in satanic ideology. All the founding ideas of leftism go back to the devil.
Agreed. Reminds me of Sowell talking about how they see everything as a zero sum game (someone achieving success means that they are taking from someone else)
Well that's a somewhat larger kettle of fish, but yes. Economics is subtractive, but not a zero sim game and the two are often muddled.
Cars are probably the greatest enhancement ever developed for human life and you're dumb and gay if you don't think so.
Other than the 1.3 million people that are killed by them every year, sure.
This has emasculated urbanite energy.
This has Dodge Ram energy
"Electricity is pretty great."
"But people die due to electricity!"
That's you. You're an idiot pearl clutcher.
If you think cars benefit people anywhere close to the level electricity does then you're silly. In a lot of ways they make peoples' lives harder.
Ok retard.
I’m swayed by your flawless logic
Hell yeah, Dodge Ram ENERGY!!!!!!
Roll coal, brother.
I'll say the same thing I usually say to liberals.
If you really want to compare causes of death, we can...
I'm not saying cars are evil, I own three of them myself. I think that calling them the greatest enhancement ever developed for human life is kind of silly, however. They have pros and cons like anything else. But the culture about them in America is really silly.
Well yes it's silly but only because the greatest enhancement for human life in history is the semi automatic firearm.
Personal vehicles on the other hand are a distinct aspect of not just personal freedom but personal sovereignty. In much the same way that owning a weapon is.
If you are armed and you can go where you please, you aren't a subject, you're a citizen.
Liberals falsely claim that freedom is being free of burden. This is because their philosophy has its core in selfishness, jealousy, laziness and greed.
Freedom actually is being free from imposition. Possessing the means of defense, mobility and sufficiency.
And I'm not arguing against private vehicle ownership in any way. Just illustrating how many people needlessly die each year because of garbage city infrastructure and careless design.
I'd argue that the quality of drivers is as much an impact as any of those factors, if not moreso.
It's definitely a factor as well I'll agree.
Get rid of two of them. Keep only the smallest, most fuel-efficient one. Your wife/husband can drop you off at work in the morning while she/he uses the car to take the kids to school and buy groceries during the day. Only one car per household. Then you can have your le heckin' wholesome walkable cities.
Then go fuck yourself, you fucking hypocrite.
I don’t believe I ever told anyone they need to get rid of their cars bud. But congrats on beating that argument I never made.
So you're just bitching into the ether. Like a woman. Noted.
No, I said there should be more pedestrian infrastructure which would save lives then you got really defensive. Like a woman.
Just stop letting feral animals drive, problem 70% solved.
Gay comment.
"stranded if your vehicle breaks down" is a serious reach. Reasonably maintained vehicles don't "break down" and even when they do there is usually a period of time where the driver (probably a woman) ignores indicators that she should have gotten checked out before there is a problem.
Public transportation, and cities in general, don't work because of blacks. Until you solve the problem that is blacks every other "solution" is just a kickback scheme that won't really do anything.
Zipcars are 100 a day plus member ship fees so thats about 3000 a year if you drive 2 days a month.
If you think you are stranded if it breaks down in a city then you should see the vast majority of the country that isn't a city where breaking down means "hiking for infinity miles until you hopefully get a signal and then pray."
On topic, I do think they start off right on a lot of topics, but their solution is retarded.
Corporations and the rich are often cancers and plagues that deserve negative things to happen to them. Cops are bastards. Houses/cars are way too fucking expensive to realistically attain for most people.
And worse yet, many people on the Right are so used to contrarian brain instant rejection of any Leftist platitude that they will unironically argue in favor of these things to their own detriment just to reflexively resist the Left. While we shouldn't openly agree with them on things, that doesn't mean we need to shoot ourselves to deny them either.
I won't support 90% of measures to fix those problems, because it would usually just make it worse through Leftist nonsense, but the problem itself I can admit exists.
This is going to blow up in our faces in a BIG way in the next 10 years or so. The Right has fashioned itself as the anti-left in so many ways, that many don't even understand the underlying reasons or arguments in favor of their own positions or against the enemy's. It's going to reach a critical mass, if it hasn't already, of an entire political movement that doesn't actually believe anything or know why they're cheering for what they're cheering for, and can be very easily misdirected into things that are awful for them so long as it's dressed up in the right disguise to play on the same emotional pulls that they're used to. And with no critical thought underneath those emotional pulls, they'll go right along with it and not even understand what's happening. I think even now, you could get a significant portion of the right to cheer for open communism so long as it was dressed up with a truck parade with a lot of flags and witty bumper stickers.
We've already spedrun to the point the Left was at like 15 years ago where "HE SAID THING I WANTED TO HEAR" is enough to grift an entire career and screaming emotional words with FACTS AND LOGIC is how people on the Right expect to convince people to their side (see, how most anti-semites operate during the best fucking time in history to recruit people).
And much like the Left, its going to turn off the masses as many figures on the Right descends further into extreme positions that are just not feasible to ever come to happen (even if they should and would be for the best).
But, unlike the Left, we haven't captured enough critical sectors nor held those believes into the zeitgeist for so long people don't question them. So when they get turned off we will just be dismissed entirely instead of it just opening up an ability to even fight back, like it is doing with the Left currently.
And that's without getting into the worse position that you described, of being easily lead astray right into our opponents hands because of how simple minded so many people have mindkilled themselves into being.
Occasionally, they're right about there being "systemic" problems. Unfortunately, they shifted the narrative to just focus on specific demographics being affected, while ignoring everyone else.
Also, while I don't exactly like how far down the rabbit hole the left has gone with their degeneracy, I am not remotely interested in seeing things shift back to the alternative extreme of excessive prudishness.
The obsession with gdp and the bottom line, profits at the expense of a coherent, functional society, Israel, corporatism, the police generally being sociopathic zogbots, the paramilitization of the police force, the mental health crisis, I agree on a lot of things actually. Just not for the reasons they might hope.
I agree on a lot of issues, we just have different means to solve them. The solution I agree on is to add more green spaces to cities. Parks and such are great, during my lunch break at work I would go eat at a nearby park and then walk a trail they had there before I went back to the office.
The irony here is that the left also wants super high density shit buildings... Which goes against making green spaces
That’s the funny part about leftism, even in the cases where individual items are nice, when you combine it all together it never works lol.
I don't think I've ever seen the left support "green spaces". They want to tear greenery down for concrete jungle high density living. You can see this with tearing down forests and farmland for vast solar and wind farms
Didn't a lot of the car thing stem from the fact that America is just so spread out and there's no real reason to be compact when there's space available for all.
The problem is big cities instead of more, smaller centres.
I'd say a big thing they are right about, on a macro scale is the need for change. True conservatism or reliance on tradition is a death sentence for cultures. No-one is more traditional and conservative than australian aborigines, 40k years plus of the same culture and lifestyle. You do need to change to stay ahead of the curve or someone else will invent gunpowder and you really really need to have some links with them to get some of that sweet sweet black powder. Pure xenophobia doesn't work in the long run.
Before cars, there were horses. Do you know why counties are mapped the way they are? It's so people on the borders can go to church on Sunday, ride to the county seat on Monday, and vote on Tuesday. Horse thieves would get hanged because stealing a man's horse was effectively a death sentence via stranding.
The more you know.
RE cities being badly designed... By them. They have been in control of the cities for more than half a century. They own that problem, so I wouldn't say it's something they are "right" about.
And honestly that's the case in a lot of other ways too.
Insurance is a mess? Yes it is. But insurance is a leftist contrivance that was devised by Roosevelt and his cabal of Bolsheviks. So that one gets hung around their necks too.
In just about every other regard I can think of, they either are the problem or are outright wrong about it.
That's just how it is when you're a dis-civilizational force founded on bad faith.
What lefties (hippies) used to be right about:
1.) War is a racket/big bank enterprise.
2.) Live closer to nature, and take care of nature.
3.) Eat and live healthier.
4.) Big medicine is meant to keep you sick.
5.) Big corporations are corrupt and shouldn't be trusted.
Now? They've reverted on all of the previous things they used to stand for. The only thing I can agree with the left on now is their adversarial position toward Israel, but for more reasons than what they state.
Environmentalism* yes to a point, carbon no. There's these really nasty open pit and massive mound mines up north of where I am. I don't mind them mining it, but part of the deal should be that they have to return it back to the way it was.
Some of bernie's old anti free-trade and free movement policies, and the damage they do to the working class. And on that note, there is perhaps something to class analysis.
I am sympathetic to those who as children entering adulthood have serious chronic diseases and something should be done there, the issue is that adults can't just buy actual insurance to protect against catastrophes, its a monstrous pre-paid healthcare package shit thing. And you also can't just buy that for your kids, which then creates more situations of people entering adulthood unable to pay for themselves.
RFK is right about big pharma and food, it's full of nasty shit. American stuff in particular. The granola greens used to understand this.
I like when they rail against corruption and monopolies, but that hasn't really happened in recent years, as those entities are on 'the left's' side. Big chunks of 'the right' are captured as well.
The biggest problem with cities, the one that overshadows and contributes to every other problem, is population density, at least in my layman's opinion. Human beings weren't meant to live in sardine cans, able to smell their neighbor's fart from three apartments over...
They rightly understand that those who control the past control the future. But unlike the right, they are constantly trying to rewrite the past so that they are in the best position to manipulate people in the present.
The other thing they rightly do is circle the wagons around those loyal to the cause. Before Trump, so many people on our side of the aisle would run away at the first sign of one of their own being politically radioactive. The left on the other hand would go on both offense and defense.
I suspect I'm not citing things that properly fit OP's context; but the question made me think about these things.
The Left plays the long game, and they know that if someone is directing 51% of their fire at the enemy, and 49% at their own side, no matter how much it sucks to grit your teeth and put up with it, it will eventually lead to victory for your side. The Right is too obsessed with their self-image as the noble good guys to use effective tactics that don't feel good like that.
The left is right about: Making weed legal. But they're wrong in they want to go overboard and treat it like candy instead of a hybrid approach like alcohol and cigarettes. The right also wants to legalize it.
Health insurance and healthcare system in general. But they're too retarded to make it any better. Their answer to it and almost everything else is government monopoly. And by the way, the right also agrees with this.
Public trans sucking ass. They think it needs more money. The truth is it needs more policing / fewer.blacks and homeless. Which are really the same thing. People don't use public trans because it has black people. It's that simple. The goal of the US economy is to make enough money to not have to interact with blacks. Hence cars and suburbs and golf exist.
While I agree about legalization, there is one somewhat minor factor. Weed smells horrible and it permeates the air way more than cigarettes or cigars. While I don't agree with bans, some kind of policy should make allowance for ensuring people who don't want to smell it don't have to.
And blacks are one of the biggest 'Emperor's New Clothes' issues facing our whole society. Nearly everyone, I suspect both right and left, knows deep down that they're a massive problem and boat anchor weighing us all down, and that the 5% or whatever that is like Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas doesn't make up for the rest. Every single place, organization, business, school, entertainment medium, living situation, economic transaction, and everything else is A: worse off the more of them are involved or even nearby and B: better off the fewer of them are involved or even nearby. It's such a blatant, acute, and obvious factor that you can take any noun on earth, person, place, thing, or idea, and add blacks to it and it will be worse than if you didn't. Just from that one variable. And everyone knows it. Just very few people are willing to admit it, and will in fact fight tooth and nail against anyone who does say it despite knowing it's true themselves. I have no idea how we solve that, but we're going to have to sooner or later.
Israel….sometimes.
They're right culturally that we should take care of our feeble and disadvantaged. I view that as our own country's war veterans with PTSD, and our own elderly. They view it as sending billions of dollars to teach people in the Congo about trans children pagents yaas slay. So not a real connection there, but the most core idea, that we have an obligation as a people, to look after "something" that we view as inferior to ourselves (not through any fault of their own), is a shared one.
Abortion?
The increasingly incestuous relationship between corporations and government, disastrous urban planning policies, the undue influence of israel and israel sympathisers upon national and international politics, environmental concerns, America's unecessary need to waste money on forcing its way into the geopolitics of other regions, lopsided funding of law enforcement and exploitable labour laws and protections.
Despite my comments here, there are many beliefs the left and Right agree on, on a top-level. The minutiae and possible solutions is where it all falls apart, both sides believing their solutions are objectivley correct and neither willing to compromise.
No. Next question.
The left is right about Russia being the bad guy. The right has gotten more quiet since the Norks joined the fray, but it has always been painfully obvious that Russia, China, North Korea alliance is evil and only bares ill will. The number of people here looking at Putin as some sort of moral leader is insane.
Doesn't mean that piles of cash is a good idea, but the person blitzkrieging their neighbor is always the bad guy and should be viewed with ire.
As others have noted, they’ve correctly identified several problems, but their proposed solution is always “hand over total control to the government”, not realizing or not caring that the government almost exclusively employs people who are power-drunk and/or retarded and therefore will inevitably exacerbate whatever problem they were trying to solve (see: SARS-CoV-2).
I can't think of any "leftist" idea / policy position that hasn't resulted in a worse unintended consequence. Everyone of their ideas requires other people to do things for them. Especially via taxation. It's never a virtue of independence or hard work or self improvement or achievement.
Even the city build / living construction issues results from mass immigration without the resources applied to increase infrastructure capacity accordingly.
It's never actually unintended. They just say it is or too many people will realize they are harming us on purpose and react accordingly.
I honestly think they're right when they say that the right lost the culture war once people like Jack Thompson and 2000s era Fox News pundits went after video games and intense music.
There were far more people who just thought of these things as interesting new takes on fun past time. Most people were perfectly capable of realizing that the things in these works shouldn't be repeated in real life, and they vastly outnumbered anyone who saw them as instruction manuals. Even then, people in the latter category who committed crimes and were allegedly inspired by GTA or NWA already had other issues in life.
I think the PR nightmare that was these moral panics against violent entertainment left us with far more of an uphill battle when it came to fighting wokeness in our culture and institutions.
Now, when we talk about how divisive and destructive themes and policies are aggressively shoved down our throats, people equate that to things like the 1980s Satanic panic against D&D or the crusade against rap music or Mortal Kombat from the '90s.
We're not trying to keep people from accessing fun, but we do want to stop people from feeling like they have to submit to the message that they're bad just because of their heritage or skin color.
I hope we can move past the stupid shit from those previous years and do a better job at distancing our pro empowerment and prosperity message from the bureaucrats of years past while just promoting good, inspiring entertainment.
I wish I saved the video but just a few months ago I read something about how even that narrative of the right being super pro censorship of video games andusic in the 90s and 00s was largely over hyped and often completely misunderstood.
The TLDR is that they weren't pushing for outright bans. Just the gaming labels like M, E, Etc and that it largely was beneficial for the gaming companies because it made it easier for them to let the gift buyers know what games to get their kids and grand kids come Christmas and birthdays. And that the censorship for radio and TV was just to either move it to cable or to put it after hours when kids would presumably be in bed. Most of the flag bearers of the movement simply wanted it kept away from kids, not banned outright.
So really, it was real fear mongering over fabricated fear mongering.
What's your view of similar phenomenons like the Satanic Panics over D&D or Pokémon?
Or perhaps Killary and Jack Thompson claiming games like GTA needed to be banned because they were turning kids into criminals?
I honestly don't remember any of that.
I do have an opinion on GTA and violent games though. They are harmless if a boy has an actual positive make influence in his life. But without one, a kid will look for a role model, and that will be a gang banger, online or TV characters, etc.
That's why black kids listen to rap and shoot up a 7/11, and white kids listen to rap and then live normal lives.
I guess that's why I grew up with a relative who LOVED rap and R&B (especially gangster and glam rap) but never felt like becoming a gangbanger or criminal.
She exposed me to people like Snoop Dogg, Cam'ron, Biggie, Nate Dogg, etc. I learned about more rappers through video game soundtracks, and I now live a life where I own a business and still don't feel like killing or robbing anyone.
How do you think parents could do a better job of stating that while explicit music and violent video games can just be entertainment, they're still just fiction and shouldn't be replicated in real life?
It makes me sad to know people in your first demographic don't have that kind of moral compass or filter.
Kids learn more by what they observe than what they are explicitly told.
If a man tells his son don't hit women, but he's constantly hitting his own wife, the kid will likely grow up thinking it is okay to hit women, and to do it himself.
So, parents don't have to tell their kids "those games are just pretend", they just need to not act violently in real life to get the message across.
I'll just be blunt, a lot of black kids are raised in fatherless homes. I think it's something like 50-85% depending on how it's defined. So they only have games/TV/celebrities as a reference.
All social rules are expressions of power, and power is simply crystallized force.
Everything is ultimately simplifyable to "have power" and "don't have power" of course they editirialize that into oppressed/oppressor model, and define any model where they're the oppressor as a post power model, but the fundamental assumption is the same.
Democracy isn't a post power structure like people pretend, it's simply an atomizer of the decision making.
What a bunch of faggots in here. I hope all the assholes raging against cars walk everywhere. Just to see what kind of stupid idea that is. But they won't because they're raging faggots.
I think the people raging tend to be the ones emotionally invested in their cars. I do walk a lot, and what makes it a stupid idea is the bad design of cities.
"Reification and Alienation"
It's an old Marxist concept which claims that society's atomization by industrialization has removed metaphysics and romanticism from society, causing people to become terribly demoralized and feel fully separated from society, promoting violent (revolutionary) responses.
The Marxists believed that this was an inevitable aspect of a marketplace along with industrialization, and that metaphysics had to be killed for a hyper-rationalist materialist future that would make such reification irrelevant because scarcity would die thanks to luxury communism.
In reality, they hit a very important problem within the human commodification that took place during the industrial revolution, and this is what the right is actually blindly pushing back on by focusing on religion and aesthetics. However, the Communist solution to the problem of reification was basically just accelerationism. So, they can't help but still fail in everything they do.