This MOSTLY happens to the guys that acquiesce to women at the first stage of asking to do shit like good morning texts.
The ones that go 'no that sounds stupid and I ain't gonna waste time on it' typically get more interest because they've openly refused them, said they aren't the most important thing and ridiculed the idea.
A lot of these types really want a guy to take control and deny them at times because even they know they have a lot of stupid ideas.
This MOSTLY happens to the guys that acquiesce to women at the first stage of asking to do shit like good morning texts.
Exactly what I was going to say. This could have been headed off at the pass if you just say 'no' when she makes some silly demand. If you're not already doing "good morning texts," it probably doesn't mean much to you. If she asks for it and you agree, you'll get resentful and not like her as much, or eventually stop doing it like in this example. If you just tell her 'no,' you'll seem assertive, and not have to inject more bullshit and confusion into the relationship.
If a woman - or anyone else (except maybe like your boss or parent, depending on your relationship) - asks you to do something pointless, don't agree just because it's "small." That's just making everything more difficult, generally.
Men are at a disadvantage because women are allowed to say no where men cannot.
“Hey honey, can you do the laundry?” “No, I don’t really feel up to it” “ok sweetie that’s fine”
Flip side:
“Hey boo, can you take out the trash?” “No sorry, it’s been a long day I’ll get to it tomorrow” “what a selfish lazy pig, he doesn’t even listen to me, I should leave his ass”
Also women are allowed and encouraged to drop whoever if they perceive a better option is available. My own wife makes constant remarks that she’d leave me for NHL players and I shrug it off but if I said the same thing about models or actresses it’s suddenly a personal attack and I’m the villain
You have to figure out how to thread the needle of "she wants someone to tell her what to do and stop her stupid impulses" and "all of her friends have told her that a man who does that is being abusive". You also have to figure out how to do this perfectly before your first year of high school or you run the risk of her using her global communication device to shame you in front of the entire world. Good luck!
Tons of men, especially young men, make the mistake of thinking you can navigate women by acting certain ways. "Just say no you aren't putting up with her stupid shit and she'll like you more..." This isn't how it work, at all.
What matters is how attractive you are as a man. The more attractive you are, the more you can say and do whatever you want and she'll put up with you. The less attractive you are as a man, the more you can't just say or do whatever you want. That's it. That's all there is to it.
Women don't like you any more or less because of what you say and do to them. They don't "respect you" because you're a real man who doesn't put up with her shit or whatever. Women don't think like this at all. This is just what men tell themselves to make themselves feel superior to other men based on some sort of superior behavior. In reality, the only reason some men are more successful than other men when it comes to women has nothing to do with the games the men play with the women and everything to do with how attractive the man is. If the man is attractive he can say and do anything. If the man is attractive, it doesn't matter if he says and does all the right things, it won't work.
Most relationships have a built in expiry date to them. It doesn't matter how attractive you are or what you say or do, eventually most women will stop being attracted to the man. This appears to be innate to her programming. There's psychological reasons for this and biological ones as well. That's why you hear of the 7 year Itch, etc... it's a real phenomenon. It doesn't matter how amazing you are as a man, eventually she won't like you anymore no matter what you say or do.
Tons of men, especially young men, make the mistake of thinking you can navigate women by acting certain ways.
For one thing, it can't be too forced. If it doesn't seem natural, it's not going to work. So, yeah, in that context you can't just say or do certain things and expect magic. But to act like personality and attitude don't play a role also doesn't work.
What matters is how attractive you are as a man. The more attractive you are, the more you can say and do whatever you want and she'll put up with you.
Physical attractiveness of course matters, and anyone who says otherwise is a delusional moron, no argument. But there are other ways to be attractive too. Plenty of ugly or short guys have great success with women. Money, power, humor, assertiveness, confidence, and, yes, even aggression can all boost someone's overall perceived "attractiveness" level. Again, yes, you still have better results if you're building on a foundation of physical hotness, but it's not required.
The less attractive you are as a man, the more you can't just say or do whatever you want. That's it. That's all there is to it.
That's not all there is to it. Again, some truth there, but it's not the full story by a longshot. The 'you just need to be hot' meme is cope from people who don't put in the effort. And just to reiterate...yes, being hot helps. A lot.
Women don't like you any more or less because of what you say and do to them.
Everything else has had a mix of truth and exaggeration. This one here? Wrong.
In reality, the only reason some men are more successful...everything to do with how attractive the man is.
Again, no.
If the man is attractive he can say and do anything. If the man is [un]attractive, it doesn't matter if he says and does all the right things, it won't work.
Then explain why some ugly men (and I'm not even talking ugly rich men) do significantly better with women than some attractive men. The first group has put in the work, the second hasn't, simply don't care, or have some other issue stopping them from fully utilizing their attractiveness...including the example of not being assertive or confident enough. Also, plenty of attractive men will wear out their welcome by thinking they can get away with anything, and pushing too far, or not far enough.
If you want to discuss technicalities then you are correct so let me rephrase in a manner you'll understand.
You can't change your core personality over a few quick tricks of "games" a man plays. You can be aware of all these tricks/games and try to play them but this won't change your core personality no matter how good you get at faking it.
What I'm saying is when guys are talking on the internet and someone says "just don't text her good morning every morning and then she won't get like this" I can safety say that's not it. A man would need to change absolutely everything about his core personality not just a few tricks here or there like this...because that's what ultimately this is: a reflection of his personality.
Since your personality is already mostly set-in-stone, a much bigger factor is going to be looks holding all else constant.
If a good looking man doesn't text her good morning he has a much higher chance of success than a bad looking man who doesn't.
To summarize the point I'm making. Men playing games with women doesn't work. I've seen men do this all the time and it doesn't get men anywhere. 99% of the time the men play the games, the people see right through the games to the core of the man's personality. The woman has already decided if she finds the man attractive or not and what the man does at this stage has limited impact. That's why the advice of "just be yourself" isn't actually bad advice. Men don't like this advice because then men have to accept that they aren't truly in control of the women they can or cannot obtain but that's mostly true. Men have very limited impact on their ability to get women. A man's genetics are set when he's born and so is most of his life trajectory based on his parents and this will shape his overall attractiveness. You can't run away from who you are by playing some games with women on asserting texting dominance at the start of the relationship. You're either already attractive or you're not and these little games mean mostly nothing in the end.
A great example of this is PUA shit. These guys think all the stuff they say matters but it mostly doesn't. The woman has already decided if she is going to sleep with the guy or not no matter what he says. It's just a matter of don't say anything so bad she loses all interest despite already being interested. Like on tinder when guys with hot pics tell women they were in prison for pedophilia and the girls still want to meetup to fuck.
Yes, I agree you see bad looking men with good looking women so obviously certain things other than looks matter but really, it comes down to what the woman wants and each woman is slightly different. You can try to play games all you want but most men are simply getting lucky that they are what the woman wants rather than the man actively changing things to get what he wants. Most men have very limited influence on their ability to gain women or not. That's why you have men who literally have never thought to try to get women and they end up with any woman they want and you have high IQ smart men unable to get women no matter what they do. It's not that they lack the ability to problem solve the situation, it's that they lack the genetics and upbringing to get women which is ultimately the most important thing. What you say or don't say doesn't matter because if you had what it takes to get women through superior personality you'd already say what needs to be said without thinking about it. Guys trying to improve their chances by saying/doing the right thing aren't going to change who they really are so they aren't going to have any more or less success doing this stuff. If the guy ends up successful, he was already going to be successful regardless of what he thought he should say to certain things.
These "games" are worthless. Either you're attractive (both physically and personality) or you're not. The more attractive you are the more you can say whatever you want. The less attractive you are the more you have to say/do all the right things but if it doesn't come naturally, the more you're going to fuck up so trying to focus on one thing like just don't text her in the morning isn't going to be it because there's no at that was going to be the make or break. Either you were already so attractive to begin with that it doesn't matter or you were already so unattractive to begin with no matter what you did, it was going to end poorly for you anyhow.
The only problem with saying that truth is that it just gives people a blank check to give up. "I was just born like this, no point trying!" Its just "my genetics made me fat" all over again.
So its not that its untrue, its that you can't do shit about it so why even bother thinking about it? Its literal brain rot to bog you down with to even give it a moment's thought, when you can instead be focusing on what you can change and improve.
I don't disagree, but telling people to reach for the stars knowing they will fail is infinitely better than telling them to not even try because they were born already a failure.
Just because predators take advantage of something doesn't make it a bad thing. It just means be mindful of fucking grifters trying to exploit you.
The only problem with saying that truth is that it just gives people a blank check to give up.
Yeah, it's one thing I really dislike about the modern blackpill men's movement. There's a lot of truth to what they say and, although they get some things wrong about women, they also get a lot right...but their conclusions are, at least in my opinion, totally wrong. And they focus on the wrong things, give up, and play the blame game. To use the more lefty word, some of it gets really toxic too. It's defeatist, it's jealous, it's just unpleasant.
...instead be focusing on what you can change and improve.
Yup, this is the way. Also, although there is some truth in XYZ being set in stone...we have so many other things bogging us down too, especially in this modern world. Just because someone's personal foundation may not be perfect, doesn't mean they can't become a much better and more attractive person by getting rid of some of the utter trash sitting on the foundation. People have so many issues, many of which can be fixed, much of it even with relative ease.
Focusing on that you can't change some things about yourself or, per this topic, that there are plenty of unpleasant characteristics of women, doesn't get you anywhere, even if those things are true. As you said, it can be both true and completely unproductive or even destructive to focus on.
Just because someone's personal foundation may not be perfect
Its basic multiplication. A 10 from birth only needs to put in 2x the effort to be a 20, while a 2 from birth has to put in 10x. Which might not even be possible or probable to do, leaving him forever lower simply because of his starting hand.
But you can still get that multiplier up to something rather than just be a 2 wasting his life away in blackpilled misery.
Only societal destruction and rebuilding can allow the common man to get a woman. If women are allowed to make their own choice the rates of murder suicide and rape among men will only continue to grow.
It's not technicalities, it's commonplace. Again, yes, being hot is an advantage. Being ugly is a disadvantage. But it's not just fringe cases; attractive people fail on the regular, ugly people succeed on the regular.
...let me rephrase in a manner you'll understand.
And that's not necessary. I disagreed with you, but I didn't talk down to you.
You can't change your core personality over a few quick tricks...
Nope, and you shouldn't want to. Improve yourself, for yourself. There are tricks that make it more effective, but it really does have to be a genuine process.
internet and someone says "just don't text her good morning every morning and then she won't get like this" I can safety say that's not it.
That wasn't even what was said. What was said was, don't agree to her demand. In these instances agreeing just makes things worse. It's not a "trick," just say no to bullshit. Again, not a trick in the slightest. You're not trying to trick anything, or change yourself.
A man would need to change absolutely everything about his core personality not just a few tricks here or there like this...
I think we're just coming at this from different angles. I'm not saying saying "no" is a magic cure-all. Just that in this hypothetical it would have been a good start. Perhaps the relationship would have still spiraled and ended. But agreeing to nonsense was a bad move regardless.
Since your personality is already mostly set-in-stone, a much bigger factor is going to be looks holding all else constant.
Your personality might be, but the "vibe" you give off doesn't have to be. Plenty of things can make you more or less attractive, beyond either your appearance or "personality." People think of confidence as related to personality, and it is, but it's also related to where you are in life. So even something as simple as a short run every day, or the classic "hitting the gym" can make you more attractive, even before and differences in physical appearance. Mental state is easier to change than overall personality, and does come through in many ways that other people can pick up on.
If a good looking man doesn't text her good morning he has a much higher chance of success than a bad looking man who doesn't.
Again, it's not about the text. It's about handling extraneous bullshit.
To summarize the point I'm making. Men playing games with women doesn't work. I've seen men do this all the time and it doesn't get men anywhere.
It can. But, again, that wasn't even my point. I wasn't asking people to trick anyone, or play games. I'm saying set boundaries, don't give in just because an ask may be seemingly easy. Going along with bullshit also doesn't get you anywhere. You keep calling it games and tricks. Simply and legitimately saying "no, I don't want to do that" is not a game or a trick.
That's why the advice of "just be yourself" isn't actually bad advice.
It is and it isn't. Yes, don't be fake. Don't do tricks. But work to improve yourself. Being "yourself" and accepting that that will dictate your entire life...that puts you completely out of control, and gives up any need to strive for anything. And even if it were true, it's a very traditionally male thing to try to overcome that anyway. Maybe you still lose, sure. But better to have tried. So, yes/no: Don't be yourself...be a better version of yourself.
You can't run away from who you are by playing some games with women on asserting texting dominance at the start of the relationship. You're either already attractive or you're not and these little games mean mostly nothing in the end.
I wish you'd stop calling them games, but I've already said that repeatedly. But look at it this way, then. If she's already decided how she feels about you, it also doesn't matter the other way. If what she's asking is stupid, and could lead to the spiral described in the video, head that off at the pass and just say you're not interested in that. If you're not attractive enough, she'll dump you anyway. If you are, she'll accept that, and you'll have one less potential relationship-destroying bit of drama floating around. Basically, pick a lane. Assert yourself, say no to bullshit. Or say yes to bullshit, but actually follow throw. Do everything she says. And I'm not even saying that derogatorily, that does work for some relationships. It's a little gross, but if it's a personality match, that's up to them. But agreeing to bullshit and then doing a half-assed job will legitimately have negative effects; the crazy lady in the video is actually right about that.
A great example of this is PUA shit. These guys think all the stuff they say matters but it mostly doesn't.
I hate the PUA stuff. But I'll again say this is a mix of truth and exaggeration. Changing or even just thinking about how you come at social situations will have an effect. In that sense PUA stuff can be helpful...irony is, most of the men who would benefit from it don't have the drive to put in the work to get the benefit from that either.
If the guy ends up successful, he was already going to be successful regardless of what he thought he should say to certain things.
I'm calling bullshit, and I'm also saying this is defeatist and a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yes, some people have it easier than others. But some people put in the work to be able to be successful.
These "games" are worthless. Either you're attractive (both physically and personality) or you're not....Either you were already so attractive to begin with that it doesn't matter or you were already so unattractive to begin with no matter what you did, it was going to end poorly for you anyhow.
Do you think there's free will at all? Do you apply this thinking to other aspects of life, or just sexual dynamics? If it's all just innate and you can't change it, why try to change your circumstances or do anything?
...trying to focus on one thing like just don't text her in the morning isn't going to be it because there's no at that was going to be the make or break.
I'll just finish on, once again, I never said it was make or break, it's not a trick, and it's not something you need to focus on. All I said was that if you deny the initial silly request, it can help stop that particular chain of drama. You might run into other drama, you might handle that better or worse, the relationship might still end down the line...but saying no was still the right move. It's not about trying to trick her, it's about trying to keep a bit of control and not let chaos overrun the relationship.
The 'you just need to be hot' meme is cope from people who don't put in the effort.
There is more to it than being hot, but how hot you are puts a ceiling on what you can accomplish with effort and and on the learning curve difficulty. The reason being hot is so important is because it allows you fuck up without it being fatal, which makes the rest far easier to learn. Chad both learns how to deal with women exponentially faster than Billy Beta and his knowledge goes way further. So even if Billy can conquer the nightmare learning curve he's still putting up with a ton of bullshit that Chad doesn't have to, and for a shittier payout to boot. I think that's where a lot of the "you just need to be hot" narrative comes from. It's not that you'll be an incel if you're not, but the end result won't be worth the time/effort/aggravation. That's why I always say be Chad or don't bother.
Being Hot is Step 1. If you lack it, you aren't even getting in the door to do literally anything else. Its what creates the first impression and no amount of negotiation can undo it. If you hot, she will hear out what you have to say, or if you are really hot she will just come along on her own.
You guys are over thinking this. She is looking at non-hot guys like a crackshack. Sure the land might be good and the foundation still solid and the work almost minimal for the low price, but none of that matters because its a fucking crackshack ick, eww, gross.
Money, power, humor, assertiveness, confidence, and, yes, even aggression can all boost someone's overall perceived "attractiveness" level.
Sorry for the double post but it's really important to note that looks affect the perception of all of that except money, and money is only important when they're out to steal it from a beta. I'm referring to the halo effect of course. The difference between confident and cocky is how tall and hot the guy is. Same with assertive and aggressive (the kind that doesn't give them the tingles). The point is looks are highly correlated with female perception of the rest, so it's not simply a matter of "making up" for less than ideal looks.
Absolutely no need to apologize. Sometimes it just do be like that.
And I already acknowledged that looks can be quite important. I just don't think they're the be all and end all, or even required. Confidence that is actually earned will get you places, no matter what you look like.
The difference between confident and cocky is how tall and hot the guy is.
Sometimes, but I still don't think it's that simple. I think a quality person who has done things to earn his confidence can get places. It's a tired mantra, but there really is some truth to the whole 'work on yourself first' advice, and it goes beyond looks. Again, looks absolutely help a lot, I've never argued the contrary.
Same with assertive and aggressive (the kind that doesn't give them the tingles).
But they can get the tingles from that behavior regardless of looks. In entertainment the "bad boy" trope tends to be tall and good looking, but the actual bad boys women end up being interested in aren't always that. Like you said, tingles.
The point is looks are highly correlated with female perception of the rest...
Yup, I agree. Again, though, part of my point is "attractive" isn't set in stone. Of course there are biological and evolutionary truths regarding beauty. But part of that certainly goes beyond traditional attractiveness. Again, danger is a good example. Someone who is ugly and/or short, but looks like they've been through some stuff might be more attractive to women than someone better looking - but not much above average - who doesn't have scars or other marring. And that's just physical stuff; there's also plenty of attitudes that signal attractiveness, regardless (or at least partially regardless) of physical attractiveness. That's my point. Again, being "hot" totally, totally helps, big time.
And, to address your other comment about me saying the 'just be hot' meme is cope, I should have been more clear. I'm not saying there's no truth there. I'm just saying I think it's a tired excuse; one that is often, but not exclusively, used by losers who have given up. I also think it's kind of funny - and I want to be clear that none of this is aimed at you or anyone else here - that a lot of the same people who go on about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps suddenly say you're screwed if you're not a perfect ten, six foot six, with a huge dick.
I guess that's part of what irks me. The incel/redpill/MGTOW people tend more toward the "conservative" side of things, if you want to class it that way, so I guess I'm more likely to nitpick my own side more. Because we all already know leftists are shit. And they're to busy worshipping women and denying biology in all its forms to acknowledge basic truths, much less build ideas around them.
So I'm not trying to discredit "redpill" or whatever ideology, or anything. It's probably more on point than many normie views, and certainly lefty views. I'm just being pedantic, but also the defeatism really does piss me off. That's my issue. As I've said; yes, being hot is a massive advantage, and opens many doors. Being ugly is a massive disadvantage, and sucks. Those are truths. It just doesn't have to define anyone's life, or shape their system of belief. It will be a struggle, but physical appearance can be overcome.
Eliot was right about women. I'm going through the same sort of shit he did when it comes to dating. All these fucking whores want nothing to do with me and I have no way of protecting myself from them.
Correct. The request itself is a shit test. She's seeing how much control she has over you. Agreeing too easily causes her to lose interest, like the cat that loses interest once it's caught the toy. You gotta keep dancing in front of her.
Though I will say in the past society was arranged better to shut this down. Women who played these sorts of games were socially shamed and shunned for it. This was something Roosh talked about, how sick he was of having to constantly put on 'Clown Game' to keep girls around. It shows how 'PUA' is still ultimately a bid for female approval. You're playing the game better than most, but it's still a stupid game.
This is a perfect example of a brain damaged by hormonal birth control. The emotionally dead eyes from being passed through like a joint at a concert. The ability to make inane demands and hyper emotional decisions on a whim with no regard to the other person. The narcissistic sympathetic mannerisms they call empathy. This is a woman who only considers herself and hates herself simultaneously, she will try to validate her life choices by supporting whatever victim hood ideology is hot at the moment and will only equate herself with a victim to try and dissuade the small rationality in her brain telling her how completely awful she is as a person.
Insanity about getting dumped by a girl for not sending good morning texts escalating into a bunch of additional bullshit demands which even when met still makes the man "unattractive" to her.
Eventually culminates in saying that the man wasn't actually dumped, he chose this.
Hormone regulation + a complete lack of any social responsibilities + constant enabling by men who want a quick lay or are willing to be an emotional boyfriend for years as a “friend” to try and get laid= the woman in the video
It's typically not that the man loses attractiveness, but that she has a potential branch to monkeyswing to and needs an "out" of the relationship without appearing like the whore she is.
In most cases those “branch swings” are guys that flirt for fun and the woman confuses that with caring. The other end are the orbiters or emotional boyfriends that the woman isn’t attracted to but enjoys validation from.
Things women will never understand. Sex is supposed to be an expression of love and bonding, not just for using each other as masturbation devices.
Dumped an ex a long time ago for cheating and one of the last things she said to me (after giving up trying to gaslight me back) was "it was just sex...but I love you!" as if those could be separated in a serious non-cucked relationship lol
Dumped an ex a long time ago for cheating and one of the last things she said to me (after giving up trying to gaslight me back) was "it was just sex...but I love you!" as if those could be separated in a serious non-cucked relationship lol
In a sensible time she'd have been stoned to death in the street for that.
Ignoring women's nagging apparently leads to them inventing even more problems so they can have an excuse to dump you...or something. I dunno, it sounded like woman logic.
I love my cats, but if anyone asks when their birthday is I will have no fucking clue, I don't even know what year they were born, best guess is 7-10 years old.
multiple ignored attempts at telling you what she needs from you.
Lol, lmao even.
Women will tell you what they need through multiple layers of subtle body language and hints, which often are so subtle they are basically non-existent. But they need to throw in this little defense because they know what the instant dismantle of their whining will be.
It’s all hamster wheel rationalization. The woman at some point gets the “ick” and must find a way to make it the man’s fault. It’s a more drawn out version of the post sex regret becoming “rape”.
And the word "ick" is just them creating a term so that way they don't have to explain the problem. Because they know if they say it out loud it'll make them look like the bad guy and come across as insane or retarded, or even the bad guy.
So they reduce it down to a "you know what I mean" empty term so that way they can still elicit public sympathy without having to cop to anything.
Yeah, the dude would gladly comply with the stupid "GM" text if she really wanted that. This scenario is when they demand attention but can't/won't tell you what they really want. There is literally no way to appease their demand, so she escalates it to a fight whenever she feels like it.
Not to mention, a morning text is also a quick way to also become clingy. So you can't do it every day. You must do it the exact amount of times her mind arbitrarily requires and no more or less.
Which is why most guys don't do it, they learned at a young age to not do so. Back when they were innocent and loving, instead of jaded and broken by a line of dumb women.
One of the big problems with modern relationships and why so many end is simple, people mistake pleasure for happiness. I didn't get my little dopamine hit of a text, so now my overall happy relationship is in ruins.
Someone dodged a bullet. She's already having the "prolapsed anus" filler done to her lips. By the time she's 30 she's going to be straight up nightmare fuel. And her voice... Jesus. Imagine having to listen to that for more than 30 seconds.
This nigga thinks they will tell you they want to be slapped and choked.
Women like this, and a huge portion of them in general, want you to basically rape and physically destroy them on the chance they like it.
Because them having to tell you makes you less attractive, because you are supposed to just know. And they don't give a shit about the possible consequences that come from a guy gambling to do that.
Most on-point thing the ''sexuality and relationship'' University class based boomer male teacher taught us :
Nobody can read minds. When you expect the other to guess what you want, or why you're upset, from cues or context, you're setting your relationship for failure. Life isn't a romance movie. Ladies, he won't know you wanted that necklace you swooned over at the shop 2 months before your birthday.
I forget which comedian it was (Louis C.K.?), but he had a bit in one of his standup routines where he recounted a time he hung out with a lady who essentially wanted him to just outright force himself on her despite her giving zero signals to do that. She later whined about him not doing it, and he tried explaining to her that what she wanted was for him to essentially rape her, and she didn't understand what the issue was.
The really advanced women will want you to not only gorilla-fuck them like wild cavemen, but they'll also have specific moves that somebody used on them in the past that will trigger a breakdown or, even worse, a false accusation months or years later, and you'll have no idea until you get blindsided later.
"he became unattractive" = "he didn't slap and choke me hard enough during sex and became weirded out when I told him that was what I wanted"
I imagine most men have to hold back from killing their women in bed due to the anger that they must be festering while thinking about how the slut will inevitably leave him and rob him.
Rank entitlement and lack of self-awareness revealed for the whole world to see. Thank you to OP and the 50% of comments that are supportive for snitching on yourselves.
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She’s right. As someone who had been working hard at overcoming anxious attachment though…I would counsel women to be mindful of their Asks. Because whatever the little thing is you would like - once you ASK for it, it so easily becomes an “if you love me you would do this little thing” shibboleth. So let’s say the girl in the relationship had a perfectly lovely guy who suited her and mostly met her needs and she was HAPPY with him. UNTIL she decided she ought to be getting Good Morning texts. And it all snowballed from there.
Now obviously, if he was just generally neglectful and unaffectionate- and if he NEVER was attentive to her requests, fair enough. But I think we can mess up good things with “gosh it would be sweet if…okay now I NEED THAT and yoh aren’t meeting my NEEDS”
Sad thing is if he kept sending good morning texts it would have been something else, and that if he complied to all of her neurotic requests he would have been too "nice" and therefore "unattractive". Bitch basically just wants to be single. This is most women you will encounter, they just can't cut it - they'd rather be single and it wholly benefits them to be single usually or to act single at your expense.
This is why andrew potater is very appealing these days.
I like how she never once stops to think anything from the guys perspective. She is just admitting she is a spoiled child that can't make any real connection outside total servitude. That she would hate anyway.
At this point her best chance at happiness is 35 baby panic where she will take a half-decent guy with a ton of issues just so he would put a child in her.
I love how this betrays how utterly stupid the woman is for seeking validation, while trying to blame the man for "failing" some stupid, arbitrary hurdle that she says is a "simple fixable problem", but everyone can see it's her own irrationality that put this "problem" there in the first place.
If you're dating someone and they need validation like that? Leave. Seriously, dodge the bullet. Because it's not worth it. Anyone who would take a good morning text as some weird ritual of adoration does not ultimately love you.
But then again, the idea of love is totally lost on most people and struggle to understand the idea of being comfortable with another person for constantly seeking validation and approval from the person who you are supposed to love.
If you're dating someone and they need validation like that? Leave. Seriously, dodge the bullet. Because it's not worth it. Anyone who would take a good morning text as some weird ritual of adoration does not ultimately love you.
Nope, most men are desperate and we'll put up with literal torture if it gives us even the slightest chance of reproduction.
She should follow this banger of a video up with a sequel on how leaving her "on read, for any reason and/or length of time" is why she broke up with you.
One thing I learned during 20 years of marriage is that women have no idea what they really want. There will be random, nonsensical demands with barely any connection to reality.
Also, everything "extra" you do will immediately become the new status quo. Women are designed to constantly push boundaries and demand more more more. It's your job as a man to manage and temper those impulses.
So basically, women have the ability to take a tiny meaningless selfish demand and let it snowball into even more meaningless selfish demand and then gaslight themselves into thinking the significant other isn’t good enough and leave to pursue their own selfish goals?
It's two and a half minutes long. Someone give a short summary. Two and a half minutes of a feminist talking is the equivalent of suffering through a two and a half hour long harangue.
It's a shitty attempt to copy the doodling style of a newer relationship YTuber called hoe_math who is pretty based.
Her version involves a hypothetical woman losing attraction for her boyfriend because he wouldn't meet her demands ad infinitum (I want to exchange "Good Morning!" texts daily in perpetuity).
The OG YTuber with the original relationship doodling style made a response video correctly assessing that these incessant demands for more relationship investment originate from the fact that she subconsciously considers her bf mid wrt to tingles and attractiveness, so demands endless investment on his part to compensate for the boredom.
Holy fuck am I ever done playing these stupid games with these overgrown children.
This MOSTLY happens to the guys that acquiesce to women at the first stage of asking to do shit like good morning texts.
The ones that go 'no that sounds stupid and I ain't gonna waste time on it' typically get more interest because they've openly refused them, said they aren't the most important thing and ridiculed the idea.
A lot of these types really want a guy to take control and deny them at times because even they know they have a lot of stupid ideas.
Exactly what I was going to say. This could have been headed off at the pass if you just say 'no' when she makes some silly demand. If you're not already doing "good morning texts," it probably doesn't mean much to you. If she asks for it and you agree, you'll get resentful and not like her as much, or eventually stop doing it like in this example. If you just tell her 'no,' you'll seem assertive, and not have to inject more bullshit and confusion into the relationship.
If a woman - or anyone else (except maybe like your boss or parent, depending on your relationship) - asks you to do something pointless, don't agree just because it's "small." That's just making everything more difficult, generally.
Men are eternally at a disadvantage in dating if women are allowed to leave.
Men are at a disadvantage because women are allowed to say no where men cannot.
“Hey honey, can you do the laundry?” “No, I don’t really feel up to it” “ok sweetie that’s fine”
Flip side:
“Hey boo, can you take out the trash?” “No sorry, it’s been a long day I’ll get to it tomorrow” “what a selfish lazy pig, he doesn’t even listen to me, I should leave his ass”
Also women are allowed and encouraged to drop whoever if they perceive a better option is available. My own wife makes constant remarks that she’d leave me for NHL players and I shrug it off but if I said the same thing about models or actresses it’s suddenly a personal attack and I’m the villain
Men are at a disadvantage because they can get another man while men are forced to be incredibly desperate.
You have to figure out how to thread the needle of "she wants someone to tell her what to do and stop her stupid impulses" and "all of her friends have told her that a man who does that is being abusive". You also have to figure out how to do this perfectly before your first year of high school or you run the risk of her using her global communication device to shame you in front of the entire world. Good luck!
Most of us never even had the chance to get close to a woman.
No, this isn't it.
Tons of men, especially young men, make the mistake of thinking you can navigate women by acting certain ways. "Just say no you aren't putting up with her stupid shit and she'll like you more..." This isn't how it work, at all.
What matters is how attractive you are as a man. The more attractive you are, the more you can say and do whatever you want and she'll put up with you. The less attractive you are as a man, the more you can't just say or do whatever you want. That's it. That's all there is to it.
Women don't like you any more or less because of what you say and do to them. They don't "respect you" because you're a real man who doesn't put up with her shit or whatever. Women don't think like this at all. This is just what men tell themselves to make themselves feel superior to other men based on some sort of superior behavior. In reality, the only reason some men are more successful than other men when it comes to women has nothing to do with the games the men play with the women and everything to do with how attractive the man is. If the man is attractive he can say and do anything. If the man is attractive, it doesn't matter if he says and does all the right things, it won't work.
Most relationships have a built in expiry date to them. It doesn't matter how attractive you are or what you say or do, eventually most women will stop being attracted to the man. This appears to be innate to her programming. There's psychological reasons for this and biological ones as well. That's why you hear of the 7 year Itch, etc... it's a real phenomenon. It doesn't matter how amazing you are as a man, eventually she won't like you anymore no matter what you say or do.
Yes, and also no.
For one thing, it can't be too forced. If it doesn't seem natural, it's not going to work. So, yeah, in that context you can't just say or do certain things and expect magic. But to act like personality and attitude don't play a role also doesn't work.
Physical attractiveness of course matters, and anyone who says otherwise is a delusional moron, no argument. But there are other ways to be attractive too. Plenty of ugly or short guys have great success with women. Money, power, humor, assertiveness, confidence, and, yes, even aggression can all boost someone's overall perceived "attractiveness" level. Again, yes, you still have better results if you're building on a foundation of physical hotness, but it's not required.
That's not all there is to it. Again, some truth there, but it's not the full story by a longshot. The 'you just need to be hot' meme is cope from people who don't put in the effort. And just to reiterate...yes, being hot helps. A lot.
Everything else has had a mix of truth and exaggeration. This one here? Wrong.
Again, no.
Then explain why some ugly men (and I'm not even talking ugly rich men) do significantly better with women than some attractive men. The first group has put in the work, the second hasn't, simply don't care, or have some other issue stopping them from fully utilizing their attractiveness...including the example of not being assertive or confident enough. Also, plenty of attractive men will wear out their welcome by thinking they can get away with anything, and pushing too far, or not far enough.
If you want to discuss technicalities then you are correct so let me rephrase in a manner you'll understand.
You can't change your core personality over a few quick tricks of "games" a man plays. You can be aware of all these tricks/games and try to play them but this won't change your core personality no matter how good you get at faking it.
What I'm saying is when guys are talking on the internet and someone says "just don't text her good morning every morning and then she won't get like this" I can safety say that's not it. A man would need to change absolutely everything about his core personality not just a few tricks here or there like this...because that's what ultimately this is: a reflection of his personality.
Since your personality is already mostly set-in-stone, a much bigger factor is going to be looks holding all else constant.
If a good looking man doesn't text her good morning he has a much higher chance of success than a bad looking man who doesn't.
To summarize the point I'm making. Men playing games with women doesn't work. I've seen men do this all the time and it doesn't get men anywhere. 99% of the time the men play the games, the people see right through the games to the core of the man's personality. The woman has already decided if she finds the man attractive or not and what the man does at this stage has limited impact. That's why the advice of "just be yourself" isn't actually bad advice. Men don't like this advice because then men have to accept that they aren't truly in control of the women they can or cannot obtain but that's mostly true. Men have very limited impact on their ability to get women. A man's genetics are set when he's born and so is most of his life trajectory based on his parents and this will shape his overall attractiveness. You can't run away from who you are by playing some games with women on asserting texting dominance at the start of the relationship. You're either already attractive or you're not and these little games mean mostly nothing in the end.
A great example of this is PUA shit. These guys think all the stuff they say matters but it mostly doesn't. The woman has already decided if she is going to sleep with the guy or not no matter what he says. It's just a matter of don't say anything so bad she loses all interest despite already being interested. Like on tinder when guys with hot pics tell women they were in prison for pedophilia and the girls still want to meetup to fuck.
Yes, I agree you see bad looking men with good looking women so obviously certain things other than looks matter but really, it comes down to what the woman wants and each woman is slightly different. You can try to play games all you want but most men are simply getting lucky that they are what the woman wants rather than the man actively changing things to get what he wants. Most men have very limited influence on their ability to gain women or not. That's why you have men who literally have never thought to try to get women and they end up with any woman they want and you have high IQ smart men unable to get women no matter what they do. It's not that they lack the ability to problem solve the situation, it's that they lack the genetics and upbringing to get women which is ultimately the most important thing. What you say or don't say doesn't matter because if you had what it takes to get women through superior personality you'd already say what needs to be said without thinking about it. Guys trying to improve their chances by saying/doing the right thing aren't going to change who they really are so they aren't going to have any more or less success doing this stuff. If the guy ends up successful, he was already going to be successful regardless of what he thought he should say to certain things.
These "games" are worthless. Either you're attractive (both physically and personality) or you're not. The more attractive you are the more you can say whatever you want. The less attractive you are the more you have to say/do all the right things but if it doesn't come naturally, the more you're going to fuck up so trying to focus on one thing like just don't text her in the morning isn't going to be it because there's no at that was going to be the make or break. Either you were already so attractive to begin with that it doesn't matter or you were already so unattractive to begin with no matter what you did, it was going to end poorly for you anyhow.
The only problem with saying that truth is that it just gives people a blank check to give up. "I was just born like this, no point trying!" Its just "my genetics made me fat" all over again.
So its not that its untrue, its that you can't do shit about it so why even bother thinking about it? Its literal brain rot to bog you down with to even give it a moment's thought, when you can instead be focusing on what you can change and improve.
I don't disagree, but telling people to reach for the stars knowing they will fail is infinitely better than telling them to not even try because they were born already a failure.
Just because predators take advantage of something doesn't make it a bad thing. It just means be mindful of fucking grifters trying to exploit you.
Yeah, it's one thing I really dislike about the modern blackpill men's movement. There's a lot of truth to what they say and, although they get some things wrong about women, they also get a lot right...but their conclusions are, at least in my opinion, totally wrong. And they focus on the wrong things, give up, and play the blame game. To use the more lefty word, some of it gets really toxic too. It's defeatist, it's jealous, it's just unpleasant.
Yup, this is the way. Also, although there is some truth in XYZ being set in stone...we have so many other things bogging us down too, especially in this modern world. Just because someone's personal foundation may not be perfect, doesn't mean they can't become a much better and more attractive person by getting rid of some of the utter trash sitting on the foundation. People have so many issues, many of which can be fixed, much of it even with relative ease.
Focusing on that you can't change some things about yourself or, per this topic, that there are plenty of unpleasant characteristics of women, doesn't get you anywhere, even if those things are true. As you said, it can be both true and completely unproductive or even destructive to focus on.
Its basic multiplication. A 10 from birth only needs to put in 2x the effort to be a 20, while a 2 from birth has to put in 10x. Which might not even be possible or probable to do, leaving him forever lower simply because of his starting hand.
But you can still get that multiplier up to something rather than just be a 2 wasting his life away in blackpilled misery.
Only societal destruction and rebuilding can allow the common man to get a woman. If women are allowed to make their own choice the rates of murder suicide and rape among men will only continue to grow.
The only way most men have to lose their virginity is engaging in prostitution.
It's not technicalities, it's commonplace. Again, yes, being hot is an advantage. Being ugly is a disadvantage. But it's not just fringe cases; attractive people fail on the regular, ugly people succeed on the regular.
And that's not necessary. I disagreed with you, but I didn't talk down to you.
Nope, and you shouldn't want to. Improve yourself, for yourself. There are tricks that make it more effective, but it really does have to be a genuine process.
That wasn't even what was said. What was said was, don't agree to her demand. In these instances agreeing just makes things worse. It's not a "trick," just say no to bullshit. Again, not a trick in the slightest. You're not trying to trick anything, or change yourself.
I think we're just coming at this from different angles. I'm not saying saying "no" is a magic cure-all. Just that in this hypothetical it would have been a good start. Perhaps the relationship would have still spiraled and ended. But agreeing to nonsense was a bad move regardless.
Your personality might be, but the "vibe" you give off doesn't have to be. Plenty of things can make you more or less attractive, beyond either your appearance or "personality." People think of confidence as related to personality, and it is, but it's also related to where you are in life. So even something as simple as a short run every day, or the classic "hitting the gym" can make you more attractive, even before and differences in physical appearance. Mental state is easier to change than overall personality, and does come through in many ways that other people can pick up on.
Again, it's not about the text. It's about handling extraneous bullshit.
It can. But, again, that wasn't even my point. I wasn't asking people to trick anyone, or play games. I'm saying set boundaries, don't give in just because an ask may be seemingly easy. Going along with bullshit also doesn't get you anywhere. You keep calling it games and tricks. Simply and legitimately saying "no, I don't want to do that" is not a game or a trick.
It is and it isn't. Yes, don't be fake. Don't do tricks. But work to improve yourself. Being "yourself" and accepting that that will dictate your entire life...that puts you completely out of control, and gives up any need to strive for anything. And even if it were true, it's a very traditionally male thing to try to overcome that anyway. Maybe you still lose, sure. But better to have tried. So, yes/no: Don't be yourself...be a better version of yourself.
I wish you'd stop calling them games, but I've already said that repeatedly. But look at it this way, then. If she's already decided how she feels about you, it also doesn't matter the other way. If what she's asking is stupid, and could lead to the spiral described in the video, head that off at the pass and just say you're not interested in that. If you're not attractive enough, she'll dump you anyway. If you are, she'll accept that, and you'll have one less potential relationship-destroying bit of drama floating around. Basically, pick a lane. Assert yourself, say no to bullshit. Or say yes to bullshit, but actually follow throw. Do everything she says. And I'm not even saying that derogatorily, that does work for some relationships. It's a little gross, but if it's a personality match, that's up to them. But agreeing to bullshit and then doing a half-assed job will legitimately have negative effects; the crazy lady in the video is actually right about that.
I hate the PUA stuff. But I'll again say this is a mix of truth and exaggeration. Changing or even just thinking about how you come at social situations will have an effect. In that sense PUA stuff can be helpful...irony is, most of the men who would benefit from it don't have the drive to put in the work to get the benefit from that either.
I'm calling bullshit, and I'm also saying this is defeatist and a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yes, some people have it easier than others. But some people put in the work to be able to be successful.
Do you think there's free will at all? Do you apply this thinking to other aspects of life, or just sexual dynamics? If it's all just innate and you can't change it, why try to change your circumstances or do anything?
I'll just finish on, once again, I never said it was make or break, it's not a trick, and it's not something you need to focus on. All I said was that if you deny the initial silly request, it can help stop that particular chain of drama. You might run into other drama, you might handle that better or worse, the relationship might still end down the line...but saying no was still the right move. It's not about trying to trick her, it's about trying to keep a bit of control and not let chaos overrun the relationship.
There is more to it than being hot, but how hot you are puts a ceiling on what you can accomplish with effort and and on the learning curve difficulty. The reason being hot is so important is because it allows you fuck up without it being fatal, which makes the rest far easier to learn. Chad both learns how to deal with women exponentially faster than Billy Beta and his knowledge goes way further. So even if Billy can conquer the nightmare learning curve he's still putting up with a ton of bullshit that Chad doesn't have to, and for a shittier payout to boot. I think that's where a lot of the "you just need to be hot" narrative comes from. It's not that you'll be an incel if you're not, but the end result won't be worth the time/effort/aggravation. That's why I always say be Chad or don't bother.
Being Hot is Step 1. If you lack it, you aren't even getting in the door to do literally anything else. Its what creates the first impression and no amount of negotiation can undo it. If you hot, she will hear out what you have to say, or if you are really hot she will just come along on her own.
You guys are over thinking this. She is looking at non-hot guys like a crackshack. Sure the land might be good and the foundation still solid and the work almost minimal for the low price, but none of that matters because its a fucking crackshack ick, eww, gross.
Sorry for the double post but it's really important to note that looks affect the perception of all of that except money, and money is only important when they're out to steal it from a beta. I'm referring to the halo effect of course. The difference between confident and cocky is how tall and hot the guy is. Same with assertive and aggressive (the kind that doesn't give them the tingles). The point is looks are highly correlated with female perception of the rest, so it's not simply a matter of "making up" for less than ideal looks.
Absolutely no need to apologize. Sometimes it just do be like that.
And I already acknowledged that looks can be quite important. I just don't think they're the be all and end all, or even required. Confidence that is actually earned will get you places, no matter what you look like.
Sometimes, but I still don't think it's that simple. I think a quality person who has done things to earn his confidence can get places. It's a tired mantra, but there really is some truth to the whole 'work on yourself first' advice, and it goes beyond looks. Again, looks absolutely help a lot, I've never argued the contrary.
But they can get the tingles from that behavior regardless of looks. In entertainment the "bad boy" trope tends to be tall and good looking, but the actual bad boys women end up being interested in aren't always that. Like you said, tingles.
Yup, I agree. Again, though, part of my point is "attractive" isn't set in stone. Of course there are biological and evolutionary truths regarding beauty. But part of that certainly goes beyond traditional attractiveness. Again, danger is a good example. Someone who is ugly and/or short, but looks like they've been through some stuff might be more attractive to women than someone better looking - but not much above average - who doesn't have scars or other marring. And that's just physical stuff; there's also plenty of attitudes that signal attractiveness, regardless (or at least partially regardless) of physical attractiveness. That's my point. Again, being "hot" totally, totally helps, big time.
And, to address your other comment about me saying the 'just be hot' meme is cope, I should have been more clear. I'm not saying there's no truth there. I'm just saying I think it's a tired excuse; one that is often, but not exclusively, used by losers who have given up. I also think it's kind of funny - and I want to be clear that none of this is aimed at you or anyone else here - that a lot of the same people who go on about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps suddenly say you're screwed if you're not a perfect ten, six foot six, with a huge dick.
I guess that's part of what irks me. The incel/redpill/MGTOW people tend more toward the "conservative" side of things, if you want to class it that way, so I guess I'm more likely to nitpick my own side more. Because we all already know leftists are shit. And they're to busy worshipping women and denying biology in all its forms to acknowledge basic truths, much less build ideas around them.
So I'm not trying to discredit "redpill" or whatever ideology, or anything. It's probably more on point than many normie views, and certainly lefty views. I'm just being pedantic, but also the defeatism really does piss me off. That's my issue. As I've said; yes, being hot is a massive advantage, and opens many doors. Being ugly is a massive disadvantage, and sucks. Those are truths. It just doesn't have to define anyone's life, or shape their system of belief. It will be a struggle, but physical appearance can be overcome.
The only place confidence will land an average looking man is in prison. Most men have no fucking hope.
Eliot was right about women. I'm going through the same sort of shit he did when it comes to dating. All these fucking whores want nothing to do with me and I have no way of protecting myself from them.
This is proof women should be property and have no rights.
Correct. The request itself is a shit test. She's seeing how much control she has over you. Agreeing too easily causes her to lose interest, like the cat that loses interest once it's caught the toy. You gotta keep dancing in front of her.
Though I will say in the past society was arranged better to shut this down. Women who played these sorts of games were socially shamed and shunned for it. This was something Roosh talked about, how sick he was of having to constantly put on 'Clown Game' to keep girls around. It shows how 'PUA' is still ultimately a bid for female approval. You're playing the game better than most, but it's still a stupid game.
This is why women should be property.
This is a perfect example of a brain damaged by hormonal birth control. The emotionally dead eyes from being passed through like a joint at a concert. The ability to make inane demands and hyper emotional decisions on a whim with no regard to the other person. The narcissistic sympathetic mannerisms they call empathy. This is a woman who only considers herself and hates herself simultaneously, she will try to validate her life choices by supporting whatever victim hood ideology is hot at the moment and will only equate herself with a victim to try and dissuade the small rationality in her brain telling her how completely awful she is as a person.
Women do not lose the tingles because of fights.
You’ll never be hoe_math.
Yup.
Blatant shittier hoe_math rip off.
Except with purely retconned, ex post facto reasoning for actions rather than any actual introspection.
hoe_math is quick
He posted a response this morning.
Monotone vocal fry = no watch. What's the summary?
Insanity about getting dumped by a girl for not sending good morning texts escalating into a bunch of additional bullshit demands which even when met still makes the man "unattractive" to her.
Eventually culminates in saying that the man wasn't actually dumped, he chose this.
Hormone regulation + a complete lack of any social responsibilities + constant enabling by men who want a quick lay or are willing to be an emotional boyfriend for years as a “friend” to try and get laid= the woman in the video
Men are forced into these acts of desperation because there's no legal way for unattractive men to get a woman anymore.
It's typically not that the man loses attractiveness, but that she has a potential branch to monkeyswing to and needs an "out" of the relationship without appearing like the whore she is.
In most cases those “branch swings” are guys that flirt for fun and the woman confuses that with caring. The other end are the orbiters or emotional boyfriends that the woman isn’t attracted to but enjoys validation from.
Yeah exactly. Women have difficulty understanding the difference between a man wanting to fuck you and a man willing to commit resources to you.
To borrow and flip a typical feminist NPC statement: you can't insert sex tokens into a man and expect a relationship to come out every time.
It doesn't help that they make chumps out of the guys who are willing to commit. Why buy the cow when Chad gets the milk for free?
Things women will never understand. Sex is supposed to be an expression of love and bonding, not just for using each other as masturbation devices.
Dumped an ex a long time ago for cheating and one of the last things she said to me (after giving up trying to gaslight me back) was "it was just sex...but I love you!" as if those could be separated in a serious non-cucked relationship lol
They can't be separated even in a cucked relationship since they don't love the guys they're cucking.
In a sensible time she'd have been stoned to death in the street for that.
Ignoring women's nagging apparently leads to them inventing even more problems so they can have an excuse to dump you...or something. I dunno, it sounded like woman logic.
tl;dr you forgot her dog's bday so she breaks up with you.
I love my cats, but if anyone asks when their birthday is I will have no fucking clue, I don't even know what year they were born, best guess is 7-10 years old.
Lol, lmao even.
Women will tell you what they need through multiple layers of subtle body language and hints, which often are so subtle they are basically non-existent. But they need to throw in this little defense because they know what the instant dismantle of their whining will be.
It’s all hamster wheel rationalization. The woman at some point gets the “ick” and must find a way to make it the man’s fault. It’s a more drawn out version of the post sex regret becoming “rape”.
And the word "ick" is just them creating a term so that way they don't have to explain the problem. Because they know if they say it out loud it'll make them look like the bad guy and come across as insane or retarded, or even the bad guy.
So they reduce it down to a "you know what I mean" empty term so that way they can still elicit public sympathy without having to cop to anything.
Yeah, the dude would gladly comply with the stupid "GM" text if she really wanted that. This scenario is when they demand attention but can't/won't tell you what they really want. There is literally no way to appease their demand, so she escalates it to a fight whenever she feels like it.
Not to mention, a morning text is also a quick way to also become clingy. So you can't do it every day. You must do it the exact amount of times her mind arbitrarily requires and no more or less.
Which is why most guys don't do it, they learned at a young age to not do so. Back when they were innocent and loving, instead of jaded and broken by a line of dumb women.
She left out the part where she's been fucking at least one other dude since before step one.
One of the big problems with modern relationships and why so many end is simple, people mistake pleasure for happiness. I didn't get my little dopamine hit of a text, so now my overall happy relationship is in ruins.
Modern relationships end because women were giving the right to leave instead of it being a life long bond.
Someone dodged a bullet. She's already having the "prolapsed anus" filler done to her lips. By the time she's 30 she's going to be straight up nightmare fuel. And her voice... Jesus. Imagine having to listen to that for more than 30 seconds.
"he became unattractive" = "he didn't slap and choke me hard enough during sex and became weirded out when I told him that was what I wanted"
This nigga thinks they will tell you they want to be slapped and choked.
Women like this, and a huge portion of them in general, want you to basically rape and physically destroy them on the chance they like it.
Because them having to tell you makes you less attractive, because you are supposed to just know. And they don't give a shit about the possible consequences that come from a guy gambling to do that.
Most on-point thing the ''sexuality and relationship'' University class based boomer male teacher taught us :
Nobody can read minds. When you expect the other to guess what you want, or why you're upset, from cues or context, you're setting your relationship for failure. Life isn't a romance movie. Ladies, he won't know you wanted that necklace you swooned over at the shop 2 months before your birthday.
2/3rds of women will admit to a pollster that they have rape fantasies.
And men willing to fulfil those fantasies end up getting sent to prison by these sluts so they can rob them of everything they're worth.
I forget which comedian it was (Louis C.K.?), but he had a bit in one of his standup routines where he recounted a time he hung out with a lady who essentially wanted him to just outright force himself on her despite her giving zero signals to do that. She later whined about him not doing it, and he tried explaining to her that what she wanted was for him to essentially rape her, and she didn't understand what the issue was.
YAWALT.
The really advanced women will want you to not only gorilla-fuck them like wild cavemen, but they'll also have specific moves that somebody used on them in the past that will trigger a breakdown or, even worse, a false accusation months or years later, and you'll have no idea until you get blindsided later.
And they fucking deserve it but our laws prevent that.
I imagine most men have to hold back from killing their women in bed due to the anger that they must be festering while thinking about how the slut will inevitably leave him and rob him.
I noticed a key factor in all of that.
The woman never actually says what the problem is, or that there is a problem, but it's the guy's fault for not reading her mind and knowing that.
Rank entitlement and lack of self-awareness revealed for the whole world to see. Thank you to OP and the 50% of comments that are supportive for snitching on yourselves.
Woman with slightly more sense in the comments:
She is a broken narcissist, nothing more. The dead look on her face and awful voice show her for what she is.
I rolled my eyes at the demand for ''good morning texts'', reminding me why I don't associate with people.
I get it though. She wants to feel desired and the text reassure her that the guy is infatuated with HER and has HER on his mind.
Repeal the 19th.
Bitch is right. I do not care enough about her wet hole to put up with her shit.
Sad thing is if he kept sending good morning texts it would have been something else, and that if he complied to all of her neurotic requests he would have been too "nice" and therefore "unattractive". Bitch basically just wants to be single. This is most women you will encounter, they just can't cut it - they'd rather be single and it wholly benefits them to be single usually or to act single at your expense.
This is why andrew potater is very appealing these days.
Hoe trying to use logic like a worm trying to use chopsticks.
who the fuck cares about what some twitter nobody has to say?
I like how she never once stops to think anything from the guys perspective. She is just admitting she is a spoiled child that can't make any real connection outside total servitude. That she would hate anyway.
Dog’s birthday? Jesus Christ, get a fucking life.
They are children. This is why they shouldn't vote or hold positions of power. How retarded.
I love how this betrays how utterly stupid the woman is for seeking validation, while trying to blame the man for "failing" some stupid, arbitrary hurdle that she says is a "simple fixable problem", but everyone can see it's her own irrationality that put this "problem" there in the first place.
If you're dating someone and they need validation like that? Leave. Seriously, dodge the bullet. Because it's not worth it. Anyone who would take a good morning text as some weird ritual of adoration does not ultimately love you.
But then again, the idea of love is totally lost on most people and struggle to understand the idea of being comfortable with another person for constantly seeking validation and approval from the person who you are supposed to love.
Nope, most men are desperate and we'll put up with literal torture if it gives us even the slightest chance of reproduction.
>has dogshit standards
>is surprised he gets dogshit results
She should follow this banger of a video up with a sequel on how leaving her "on read, for any reason and/or length of time" is why she broke up with you.
One thing I learned during 20 years of marriage is that women have no idea what they really want. There will be random, nonsensical demands with barely any connection to reality.
Also, everything "extra" you do will immediately become the new status quo. Women are designed to constantly push boundaries and demand more more more. It's your job as a man to manage and temper those impulses.
Compare this "mind map", scribbles and all with it's random flow charts to the "ordered and simple "Crazy hot" scale.
So basically, women have the ability to take a tiny meaningless selfish demand and let it snowball into even more meaningless selfish demand and then gaslight themselves into thinking the significant other isn’t good enough and leave to pursue their own selfish goals?
That's the great thing about this video, she lays out the whole chain of illogic in broad daylight lol
Women. Famous for clearly telling men what they want.
Wow, what an entitled, horrible fucking bitch. I've been with women like this before. There are signs. So, so many signs...
Anyone who demands you send her a "Good Morning" text? And then gets shitty like this when you forget?
Run, run for the fucking hills. "Dump that arse", as I'm sure this bitch would happily say, if the roles were reversed...
Uber-cringe...
Men can't afford to be picky, we have to take anything we can get.
It's two and a half minutes long. Someone give a short summary. Two and a half minutes of a feminist talking is the equivalent of suffering through a two and a half hour long harangue.
There are limits, I tell you. Limits.
It's a shitty attempt to copy the doodling style of a newer relationship YTuber called hoe_math who is pretty based.
Her version involves a hypothetical woman losing attraction for her boyfriend because he wouldn't meet her demands ad infinitum (I want to exchange "Good Morning!" texts daily in perpetuity).
The OG YTuber with the original relationship doodling style made a response video correctly assessing that these incessant demands for more relationship investment originate from the fact that she subconsciously considers her bf mid wrt to tingles and attractiveness, so demands endless investment on his part to compensate for the boredom.