Canada to implement Universal Basic Income
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We already know what’s going to happen. We saw it during the pandemic. The government paid people not to work, so they didn’t.
Also, how does UBI work with open borders and/or mass immigration? Does the entire world get free money from Canada?
If you're brown, you get to drink those gibs down.
Savings and birth rights of Canadians given away to the third world.
All so trudeau can get more voters.
Sounds like treason.
Considering Canada has become northern India it will be the latter
Damn these pesky northern Indian's voting Trudeau in 3 times. And the damn immigration minister from India.
A lame excuse for the absence of any rational voting bloc up there.
Yep. I was one of them.
I got laid off, and lounged around playing vidya for like 8 months all while making more than I did working 9 hour days as a delivery driver. I had basically zero reason to look for a job while getting all that money. When it finally dried up, that is when I started looking.
Now I've been employed for 3 years straight, because I had an incentive.
Just normal state/federal unemployment. That was during the whole covid stimulus package years so it was higher than normal unemployment checks, but similar to normal welfare checks for say, a single mom of three getting money from the state.
Everyone gets it except Canadian taxpayers. They've taken our guns away, and the right to protest unless it's for raping murdering terrorists. No agenda here.
Even sleepy Japan couldn't put up with Abe for some no nonsense reason. But in Canada, the lunatics in power can do no wrong.
They think this Star Trek wannabe shit will cause a golden age of the arts, creativity and volunteer caretaking. Productivity will skyrocket too somehow.
In fact they will be children. Papa will give them their allowance and they'll do their hobbies and play with toys.
They'll be worse than children.
Children have potential.
I'm not going to claim that it wasn't always the case that 90% of people can aspire to be little more than slaves, but I've definitely seen a major trend toward people wasting their own potential and choosing to sit at home, watch TV, and get high instead of doing literally anything at all with themselves.
I myself am somewhat guilty of this. It's hard to get motivated to self improve when you have no unfulfilled needs.
It's also hard to get motivated to self-improve when you look around and realize that you won't be the recipient of any of the benefits of that self-improvement.
It's fine and dandy to claim "getting better is its own reward", but I'd rather not empower evil people. I'll improve in the ways that genuinely benefit me, and if I find myself behind a genuinely good man or woman, I'm happy to push. That said, I'm done pushing for the sake of pushing. I'm done having my goodwill and productive effort stolen by people who could give two shits about my well-being. Christian ethics work okay in a predominantly Christian world, but that isn't the world we live in right now.
Ever worse; who would work knowing that they'll be taxed half of their income just to support the lazy?
Some are unimprovable. Until we predict before birth who will be too dim to work at anything that pays a living wage, UBI might be useful.
"You are your own worst enemy." ~ Karate proverb
What was the Japanese script's term for such "magicless" people that they treated as cattle?
(for the unaware: it's goys)
i remember doing a triple take when i saw that
You're failing to see the ulterior motive here. A populace that's dependent upon the government is a populace that cannot rebel against said government. At least that's how they see it.
Oh look, it's the government swooping in to save us from the government that caused the issues they're saving us from.
This is only going to make it worse.
Much worse.
UBI is great on paper, and can be useful in some small really tight knit communities. But across Canada? This is going to be so bad.
UBI is not great on paper.
It's great on paper if you don't read past the "If everyone has money then no one will be poor!" line.
" We are rebels against the system but we want more of the system"
To attract more gimmigrants?
Immigration is a tax on the local people - just like inflation.
The only people he can convince to vote for him are the ones too dumb to learn or too new/dumb to know better. The latter is an infinite pool. 500k/ year!
Same for Australia. These politicians know when they're on to a good thing.
$50CDN ($1.22 USD) says that only brown people will be eligible for UBI.
UBI has been used on Canada's aboriginal population for decades, and look at the heights they've risen to! (huffing paint etc)
How’s the petrol sniffing over there, how Rama Rama do the Canadians get?
Met a paint huffer in real life once and I'm pretty sure that's the worst drug there is
What can 9,000 CAD per year buy?
This is a wealth transfer to the LPC's voter base.
Canada Revenue Agency reports that for tax season 2021, there were ~8M taxpayers in the $49k or less tax bracket, with the largest clusters in the 18-34 and Women 55+ age groups.
With women accounting for ~57% of all the $49k or less taxpayers.
To nobody's surprise, the LPC's largest voter groups, according to Decision Canada, are 18-34 and Women 55+, which also happen to be the weaker demographic voter groups for the CPC. The CPC's larger voter group is Men 35-54, which happens to be the largest taxpayer group by revenue (the group who will be paying for this UBI program).
What a fucking coincidence!
I think at this point it's pretty obvious that women never should have been allowed to vote. Although if you point that out to normies you'll get tarred and feathered.
A near identical proxy that would be more palatable is to prevent people who aren't net taxpayers from voting. It makes complete sense, because they don't have any skin in the game. They're basically debating how to spend other people's money, so of course they'll vote to spend it on themselves.
They tried doing a test run of this in canada iirc and it failed horribly.
If there's one thing guaranteed to change a leftist's mind, it's unambiguous evidence that what they're doing doesn't work.
Beliebe the Seance!
Gun control has entered the chat.
Decision making and policy development is supposed to be an iterative process were you identify a problem, develop solutions, implement, and monitor results. The monitoring stage identifies new problems and the process starts over again.
What's truly interesting (and frightening) about the left is not how they fail to properly monitor and course correct when they make policies, but how they're able to transform every failure into a justification to go further forward. "You're doing it wrong" is their answer for every real world criticism based on empirical data.
When universal basic income fails, they'll double down use that as an excuse to give people more money or more free shit rather than question the foundational reasoning behind UBI works in real life.
Nah, they tried in Ontario, then the fat retard Premier cancelled it halfway through.
Now you might say "good, that commie BS doesn't work anyway", but we could have proved it.
Now we gotta do it the hard way.
To be fair, provinces can't print money, so it was doomed from the start. Not that nationwide UBI isn't doomed as well, but they can paper over deficit spending with fresh money until the dam breaks and hyperinflation begins.
I like that they showed two women making vague scary buzzwords to scare you into giving them power. Continuing to set a great example of why they weren't allowed to vote through all of history.
How many people will spend that UBI on necessities instead of video games and weed? Unless, of course, this is the precursor to introduce central bank digital currency, i.e. glorified ration coupons.
Basic necessities will increase in price by exactly the amount of the UBI, so...
Bribing the people with their own money. Turd is the biggest scumfuck there is
Other people's money but yeah
white men's taxes going staight into pockets of niggers, how lovely
how do you stop a nigger from cashing a welfare cheque? hide it in his work shoes
Or inside the smoke alarm
Why does he look like Austin Powers?
Wellfare is already treated as UBI, but it's managed by the provinces.
The federal goverment is pulling another centralizing marxist move.
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The country is going to collapse, isn't it?
I hope so. This country needs revolution.
then the snow Mexicans will flood from the north and maybe battle it out with the Mexicans
Already has
So you'll be ending mass immigration, right? If you've met all your labour requirements and still have people to spare you surely won't be importing low quality third-world labour to make up the difference, right?
It will fail. Where it has been put to the public, the public has outright refused to support it. Where it has been trialled, they've ended early in failure.
The problem will come when people realise that employment is a privilege and not a right when jobs en-masse are replaced by automation, AI and robots or at the very least, outsourced to low wage countries. Unless you can work for pennies an hour, if that, you will be replaced once the technology is mature and stable enough. If anyone thinks outlawing all those is the solution, watch as hundreds of billions in investment leaves the country for other countries that will not ban them. We all may end up becoming freelancers and business owners because at least the only person who won't be fired from their job is the boss!
It'll be interesting to see what Canada considers a "livable" income considering how completely removed from reality their officials are. Watch it be like $200 a month plus some equally insane $5500 a month per child you claim.
If anything it'll be 5500 a month per child, but only if your skintone is brown. White Canadians will get paid 5500 for every kid they abort in the name of climate change.
Strangely the price of everything will increase, nullifying the free money. Nobody could see it coming! Real communism has never been tried!
It's those greeeeedy corporations in Big Grocery that purposely keep the supply of food low so they can price gouge.
We can send all our illegals up north.
Just in case anyone is not keeping score, UBI trails have been tried countless times and have failed every single time for the exact same reasons. So naturally Canada wants to implement it nation wide. You get more of what you pay for. If you pay people to not work, you get more people not working.
Canada is beyond fucked. Quality of everything already cratered from diversity infecting everything. Most notably Canada is drowning in retarded doctors who can barely function (They are licensed in their home country, which is a shithole with zero standards) and this will be the main thing that blows up in the next 5 years. Do not get sick if you are in Canada and do everything you can to stay healthy and out of hospitals.
All those trials have gotten eligibility criteria all wonked. Indicative of the grandiose way any modern state will fuck up UBI.
Hopefully it coincides with Trump winning the presidency so all those crying dipshits will actually move to Canada this time.
Only to discover that Canada has these little things called 'immigration laws' and 'immigration requirements' if you're not a precious wittle helpless PoC.
And they will enforce them, unlike the US.
Yeah, I could do with listening to some wailing and gnashing of teeth...
Fuck this country
Shocker, she looks nothing like exactly what I'd expect her to look like.
Maybe they can draw all of the USA's leeches to the north.
Well, how much is it? If average rent is thrown into the amount, it ought to be pretty hefty.
As long as you deny it to non-citizens, this may very well be the only solution to economies that starve their unskilled workers and might be preferable to slaving away from the neck down until you're worn out and put on the trash heap. Speaking from the US perspective, It makes far more sense than piecing off the dense and unskilled poor with welfare and food stamps.
Something has to be done to take care of the terminally stupid, and I always knew that the IQ problem everyone likes to deny would return to bite us in the collective ass.
And who the fuck is going to pay for this?
Liberals have crashed the previously balanced budget when they took power.
This will be another leftist disaster in every way.
It's okay, because as unemployment spikes, MAID will take care of the rest of the poors.
So my ultimate question about UBI is...
We already know that a good 70% of people do no work even though they are employed.
Does UBI just codify that?
I wonder....
CAD soon to be worthless.