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Food ranking system from guy in charge of White House Conference on Nutrition. Frosted Mini Wheats, Lucky charms > whole egg. Ice cream w/ nuts > ground beef (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by YesMovement 3 years ago by YesMovement +73 / -0
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– cartoonericroberts 50 points 3 years ago +50 / -0

Food Compass brought to you by Tufts University and General Mills.

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– Oppressinator 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

"EAT SIX TO EIGHT SERVINGS OF BREAD A DAY, ELIMINATE DAIRY AND MEAT"

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– YesMovement [S] 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

EAT SIX TO EIGHT SERVINGS OF BREAD SUGARY CEREAL A DAY

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– TentElephant 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

The Jim Jones Revolutionary Diet

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– Erithal 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Praise be! Pass the Kool-aid!

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– AntonioOfVenice 39 points 3 years ago +39 / -0

If bugs had been included, they'd get a score of 120.

Seriously, egg substitute is better than whole wheat bread?

I'm getting the impression that these people have an agenda to push.

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– TentElephant 39 points 3 years ago +39 / -0

I'm getting the impression that these people want everyone weak, fat, stupid, and living in hospital beds.

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– AntonioOfVenice 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

Fat, weak and stupid men do not overthrow tyrants.

Lucius Brutus did not need a truck to carry him to overthrow Tarquin.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

The Fabian Socialist plan of subjugating a population with food control is the opposite of the Communist one, but both have similar results, and maybe even similar death rates.

The Communists starve you to death so you don't have enough energy to resist.

The Fabians over-feed you so that you're too fat and lazy to resist.

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– altmehere 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

both have similar results

Similar, but overfeeding is probably "better" for those using it as a tool I'd bet.

When high calorie foods were more scarce, starving people was the only option at scale. But it's also a dangerous game to play; hungry people may be weak, but they're also desperate.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

IDK. China and Ukraine didn't rebel.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I was thinking veganism as always but ice cream is a dairy product so idk.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Part of me wants to say "bugs might actually be healthier than frosted mini wheats", because at least the high protein content might mean you're able to eat less of it.

But the other part knows they'll figure out some way to process all the nutrition out of it like they did with grains, so that even after eating 1000+ calories of the stuff you'll still feel as hungry as you did before.

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– covok48 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

You have to heat the bugs to a temperature that literally burns the protein out.

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– Xzal 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And even then there's different kinds of protein. The protein in bugs contains a lot of unkillable bacteria in them and a few of those bugs provide protein that has no nutrition value to humans.

It's not just a case of "protein good!".

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– oilwellpauper 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

probably not long until cereal is full of bugs anyway

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– Gizortnik 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Fucking whole wheat bread isn't as good as frosted miniwheats.

Nigga, really?

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– YesMovement [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

A big corporation doesn't make all the bread loaves, and you can make it yourself at home.

Can't promote that.

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– OldBullLee 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I agree. most commercial "whole wheat bread" isn't bread at all but a hodgepodge of vitamins adding nutrition to highly processed flour along with preservatives for shelf life. Remove the nutrients by processing, then add them to the finished product, just like "fortified" cereal.

Baking bread at home is the only way to avoid this, unless you want to pay more for commercial "organic" bakery bread, and not all bakeries avoid preservatives and dough conditioners.

Good bread contains flour, water, yeast, and salt. If you want to splurge, add a tablespoon of sugar and two tablespoons of butter for two loaves of white bread. And there's always brioche and puff pastry if you want to gild the lily.

It's so good it will rarely sit long enough to get moldy.

Bread making is a really fascinating and challenging hobby. I recommend it highly.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Lurker404 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0

Looks like they're still putting sugar over fat. Gotta keep people addicted to that sweet sweet corporate product.

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– deleted 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0
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– Gizortnik 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

STAY ADDICTED TO SOY

FTFY

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– Assassin47 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

STAY ADDICTED TO SOY GOY

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– YesMovement [S] 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

And I thought they loved skinless chicken breast, isn't that one of the leanest proteins around?

no red meat or oil

But they do love oil, as long as it's seed oil- they're claiming egg substitute in veg oil (even if not seed oil it's still bad unless they're considering olive a veg) is much healthier than a real egg in butter, or even better than skinless chicken or a boiled egg.

And isn't watermelon basically water & sugar? Just did a quick Google: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/watermelon

Watermelon consists mostly of water (91%) and carbs (7.5%). It provides almost no protein or fat and is very low in calories.

Watermelon contains 12 grams of carbs per cup (152 grams). The carbs are mostly simple sugars, such as glucose, fructose, and sucrose. Watermelon also provides a small amount of fiber.

Watermelon is low in calories and fiber and consists mostly of water and simple sugars. It also contains FODMAPs, which cause digestive problems in some people.

Watermelon is a good source of vitamin C and contains decent amounts of potassium, copper, vitamin B5, and vitamin A (from beta carotene).

Watermelon is a good source of the amino acid citrulline and the antioxidant lycopene, which play important roles in your body.

The Bottom Line: Watermelon is an exceptionally healthy fruit. It’s loaded with citrulline and lycopene, two powerful plant compounds linked to lower blood pressure, improved metabolic health, and decreased muscle soreness after exercise. What’s more, it’s sweet, delicious, and packed with water, making it excellent for maintaining good hydration. For the vast majority of people, watermelon is a perfect addition to a healthy diet.

Kinda mixed messaging there, but hardly seems like a superfood with a perfect sore to me.

Even in the weird leftist HELTH understanding of nutrition this doesn't seem to make a lick of sense.

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– WeedleTLiar 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Makes you think you're full when you're actually starving...

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Not for very long though. Because of all the water your body tends to be able to process it pretty quickly.

Apparently some professional eaters use it as a practice food for that reason.

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– BlueDrache 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

... professional eaters ... practice food ...

Hunger Games and its "whoopsie juice" to vomit so they could eat more comes to mind.

I weep for our species.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If food keeps rising in price it may become cost prohibitive to do anymore. Of course that also may mean normal people won't be able to afford food, and interesting things tend to happen when normal people can't afford food.

You may live to see your wishes come true, but perhaps not in the way you'd like.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Hippies fleeing the cities for homesteads in the early 70's were a bit premature. Now it looks like the key to long-term survival.

Get enough space for a truck patch and a cellar to grow and store canned vegetables and home-brew, raise chickens. buy flour and beans in bulk and make your own bread.

My retirement fantasy.

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– Lurker404 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

That's what happens when ideology, good old corruption and reality collide.

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– APDSmith 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I suspect that's because you're not factoring the share prices of several giant corporations into your calculations.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Red meat is good for you as long as you aren't a sloth that sits on your ass everyday

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

Both times in my life I've lost large amounts of weight it's been by eating the exact opposite of what the US government has told me I should be eating. And despite the severe calorie restrictions I usually end up feeling more satisfied after meals than I had before.

Absolutely criminal what our government tells parents is "healthy". And that if say a skinless chicken breast producer made a label that said "actually our chicken is way healthier to eat than Frosted Mini Wheats" they'd get hit with a massive fine.

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– AntonioOfVenice 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Both times in my life I've lost large amounts of weight it's been by eating the exact opposite of what the US government has told me I should be eating

Wow.

Not listening to the US government? You're a TERRORIST.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

POLICIA!

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– Oppressinator 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Very funny how most things near the top are processed or otherwise don't come from animals. I'm pretty sure if you turned this chart upside down, you'd do pretty well.

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– YesMovement [S] 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Butter>seed oils, eggs (especially from an actual, not factory, farm) are great for you, ground beef isn't the best cuts but the "processing" is really just grinding and red meat is good for you- another one of the Big Lies.

Not sure on cheddar but I think in general moderation, non-processed cheese (ie not Whiz or those slices but real fucking cheese) is just fine for your health. Last time I was in Europe they seemed to eat a fair amount of cheese and were in better shape than us.

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– OldBullLee 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The French have it down. Gruyere rules! Once upon a time, all farming was "organic."

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– Gizortnik 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

FDA'S TOP SUPERFOODS!

  • 5: Frosted Mini Wheats
  • 4: Watermelon
  • 3: Kale
  • 2: Taco Bell's Cheezy Queserito
  • 1: Ze boogs
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– lgbtqwtfbbq 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

If you look up your recommended daily calorie intake for your height and weight, and try to eat that many calories using just the bottom 3 items, I'd wager you'd have a hard time doing so without eating yourself sick. Much harder than you would if you were eating frosted mini wheats.

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– YesMovement [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Watermelon & kale are good for you but not very filling, I think you'd have a hard time feeling full plus you're missing out of the important shit you get from animal products.

Honestly if I had to choose the bottom 3 do seem better than the top. You'll get protein and actually feel full eating those. People on the carnivore diet seem to be doing pretty well, certainly more than someone eating a lot of mini-wheats...

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

carnivore/paleo/primal/keto/atkins/whatever you want to call it works extremely well, speaking from personal experience.

And back in 2008 when I first tried it, mainstream "nutritionists" were still calling for advocates of that diet to be imprisoned for "endangering the health of their clients". Public health has been in a bad state for a very long time.

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– WeedleTLiar 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Is there anything more extravagant and wasteful than "almond milk"?

Almonds are grown in California, almost exclusively, require a ridiculous amount of water, which they don't have, just to make a milk substitute? Say what you like about soy, at least it's cheap.

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– deleted 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0
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– YesMovement [S] 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Their nipples are so tiny...

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– cartoonericroberts 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

There is almost no almonds in almond milk. Look at the nutrition label; all sugar; it's practically a soft drink. e: There's one serving of almonds in a half gallon of almond milk. It's ridiculous.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Who even uses that shit?

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– cartoonericroberts 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

People that think it's somehow a healthy choice to replace a drink that's well balanced between fat, protein and sugar with a drink that's mostly just sugar. To be fair there is unsweetened almond milk but that's basically water.

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– YesMovement [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Encourage: Froyo, OJ, Honey Nut Cheerios, choc covered almonds

Moderate: skinless chicken breast, which is only slightly healthier than Lucky Charms somehow

Minimize: egg fried in butter & cheddar cheese

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– WeedleTLiar 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Butter fried egg and cheese is my goto lunch, lol.

Must be why I keep dying of Covid...

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– Gizortnik 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I didn't get vaccinated and I died twice.

This is how I also managed to vote for Joe Biden 8 times.

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– BetterNameUnfound 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

They hate cheddar cheese? Whew, that means it's awesome!

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Natural sharp cheddar? Not bad tbh.

Most people don't eat regular real regular cheese. It's super high in saturated fats, but it can be really good.

Except for stinky cheese.

That's literally just bad mold. Why are you eating that. Stop it.

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– somercet 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You can stop me from eating blue cheese when you pry the Stilton out of my cold, dead hands.

I used to love Treasure Island blue cheese in omelets. It would melt just as the egg almost finished cooking. Then the new pasteurization regs passed and suddenly blue cheeses were green, dry and crumbly, and didn't melt. The cheese makers had to change cultures to use heavily pasteurized milk. It's just one more thing they took away from us.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Right on. Don't listen to Gizortnik. Bleu, Camembert, Limburger, beer cheese . . . funky deliciousness!

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't know what you or u/OldBullLee are talking about.

None of those cheeses were that bad. Literally none of them are that bad.

I'm talking about the really stinky cheese. The ones that make people gag.

Blue Cheese doesn't do that...

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– oilwellpauper 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

saturated fat is the healthiest (and only essential) type of fat

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– GloboHomoErectus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Eat fermented foods, like cheese, yoghurt, and kimchi etc.

It helps your gut biome, and prevents you catching the faggot parasites.

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– MargarineMongoose 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

It's the food pyramid all over again.

Encourage the peasantry to consume poison and actively discourage them from eating anything that might lead to them becoming healthy and strong.

These people all need to be publicly flogged.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I mean, carbohydrates aren't bad. You just have to fucking use them.

In the Revolutionary Period the carbs Americans ate were astronomical. They also worked 18 hours a day of manual labor on farms.

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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

There are very few people in the modern world now who can justify their carb intake, and the carbs we do eat are probably not ideal even then.

Need more whole foods.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

They also need to not be so processed that there's no nutrition in them, so that when you eat them you actually feel full.

It's way too easy to eat 1000+ calories of highly processed carbs and not feel it at all.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Forget eating.

It's easy to drink 1,000 calories.

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– spambot 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

"It's the food pyramid all over again."

so your telling me its annother,,, pyramid scheme?

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– MegoThor 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Wow, they finally came out with a bigger lie than the food pyramid.

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– cartoonericroberts 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

To be fair the million dollar tractors are a necessity rather than a luxury.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThink 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I think it might be good advice, if you read it upside down. Red is clearly the best, since they don't want you to eat it and green is clearly trash to be avoided completely.

Except for the watermelon, since I'm pretty sure that's a decent source of iron oddly enough.

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– YesMovement [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Kale is a superfood, but I still can't get over the fucking mini-wheats...seriously, at least put the plain whole wheat biscuit so you don't sound totally insane

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Superfood my ass.

If you replace Kale with Tall Fescue no one would be able to taste the difference.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Try it; you might like it: https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/jacques-pepin-makes-kale-soup/19440/

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– GloboHomoErectus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Kale is literally inedible garbage, there is a thousand different tasty vegetables.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No.

I agree with GloboHomoErectus. There are better vegetables.

If I want to eat something that tastes like feet, I'll develop a foot fetish.

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– DNA1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Naturally the bottom 3 + whole milk (or 2%), compose a fair amount of my diet. Especially the beef. I regularly buy it in sealed packets only to chuck it in the freezer so I have more "just in case".

Like everyone else has already commented on, this is clearly intentional malice. Ex: you can eat almonds (or cashews, pumpkin seeds, limited walnuts, etc.) without any added sugar. I get them unroasted and unsalted to avoid unnecessary oils + sodium and they're great snacks.

Only bugs I'm eating are the shrimp. I'll stick to what I'm doing...which is trying to minimize processed foods, experiment with various vegetables/mushrooms and cooking methods, BEEF, etc., and limiting vegetable oil in favor of unsalted butter + extra virgin olive oil.

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– dekachin 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0
  • Watermelon is empty sugar calories

  • Sugar cereal is bad for you

  • Orange juice is pretty much just sugar and isn't good for you

  • chocolate covered almonds are awesome but very bad for you and very high in calories. I used to get them from costco

  • skinless chicken breast, milk, and eggs are super foods that should be at the absolute top of any list. nonfat cheese is also very good for you.

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– oilwellpauper 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I agree except that chicken has a pretty poor micronutrient profile, red meat and fatty fish (salmon family) are the healthiest meats

There is no such thing as nonfat cheese, that's some kind of freak lab experiment I wouldn't put in my body. There's literally nothing wrong with eating saturated fat.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

There is no such thing as nonfat cheese

https://i.imgur.com/iwAkaDn.jpg

It's just made with skim milk or whatever.

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– Devidose 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Mmm, extra mature cheddar.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Fucking watermelon and kale.

Most watermelon is overgrown trash that really is just mostly water and almost no melon. There's no real benefit to it.

But Kale?

Fucking Kale is an absolute garbage vegetable that tastes like shit and is barely edible. Collard Greens is cheaper (and I mean absolute dirt cheap), tastes better than Kale, and is more nutritious.

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– realerfunction 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

if you don't look like a statue of a greek god, why are you giving health advice?

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– You_Are_Based 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Bruh I am triggered. I wish Americans were whatever made it less likely to be short on meat and dairy. If that meant we were violent or that we were slaves, that wouldn't be my fault for wanting to eat meat as much as possible just like 99% of people in all societies in all of human history have wanted. An acceptable "deal" includes the meat.

There is NO flipping that on its ass, no jedish mind trick, no crap on the tv, no twitter trend, no fucking hurricane, no tOtAlLy mysterious fire, no hardcore neo-stazi action, no suddenly dieded Epsteins, nothing, there's nothing at all in the world that'll make Americans feel in the wrong for wanting meat.

Same goes for home ownership. The goalpost that was "success" from the Greatest to the Boomer generations has shifted to homeownership. It is even more important in our psyches than ever at a time when institutional forces are clusterraping the rate of homeownership. That puts a lot of pressure on one market, to almost singlehandedly maintain the illusion of social mobility as a possible outcome of work and ingenuity while it is actually not happening? Wanna guess how the math works on that?

And while Im on an over 9000 rant I might as well go for a home run and get it all out. I think privacy in general will become a Hard Issue with upper case letters so you know it's Some Actual Shit or SAS for short, just like food and homeownership.

The 4th is so laughably straightforward and violated, and intentionally misinterpreted and left outdated. One of the least mysterious pieces of legal shit a 21st century high fiction consumer could read. Imagine feeling confused about this;

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

It says "papers", and looky-ho, a unified class of entities say... GO PAPERLESS lol BUY A SMORTPHONE LULZ. Suddenly, because we are talking "data" (data which, in the living memory of all baby boomers alive, was printed on PAPER) this means we are not talking "papers" anymore of course, which means POOF goodbye to that part of the Bill of Rights, bye bye. Don't worry, we don't UnMaSk you so go ahead and rela- HA GOTCHA WE UNMASKING ALL YOU TERRRREST MUFUGGAS HA, SUCK IT.

Nor are we talking "effects" anymore, nope, it's data now and yeah, you consciously agreed to let us suck it from you like blood, so we are morally blameless, you see?

Oh but looky here, the definition of "warrant" includes allllll sooorts of electromitronical communidoohickeys. "Data", wha? STFU there's no data, and also we own this data so GTFO. Yes they E-signed the oath in the warrant submission form thru the portal on the mobile thingy in the squad car. Dummy, they perfectly described what to search, see right here it's got your name and address, how much more specific can you get, SHEESH.

And if you didn't want us to have probable cause to do, like, whatever it was we did lulz, maybe you should have like, tried not having any opinions? Bam another right bites the dust. Yknow what we at the agency say boys, "if you can't amend em, apprehend em!" I swear one day this is gonna go full on SAS so fast, all it takes is one psychopath with a loosh leash at Google or a contractor group of some sort and no one will ever blink at the topic of food breaking down into a rant about a man's favorite seemingly non food-related rights.

These are all things specifically targeted. I have never felt so threatened by a threat to a "right" than I do by this talk about access to meat, for which I'm totally dependent on others. It really locks in the WEF scheme into a unified narrative of sorts concerning other changes, especially in the realm of ownership, social mobility, and privacy. All that stuff is hoity toity but unfortunately for them it includes (unnegotiably) the matter of food and that is simple, direct and tactile to us all. It connects the dots from philosophical, political discussion, to the actual practice of our lives, compulsorily, and including everyone who never let the hoity toity stuff affect their lives. Bc it's THE FOOD.

PHEW

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– Decrixxx 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

you will eat the Nuts

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– Twatwaffle 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not giving up my butt nuggets and bacon grease. You can fuck right off.

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– Cheers_cunt 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Can't wait to see their next campaign:

BRAWNDO - IT'S WHAT PLANTS CRAVE!

We're just about there now...

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– BlueDrache 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

ScreenshotPingmaxxed

@Gizortnik

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– OldBullLee 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The "guy" evidently scoured his pantry and fridge and randomly ranked what he found

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– Xzal 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Now look at it from their new push against farmers and "reducing nitrogen byproduct".

All the non recommended foods are "high" in nitrogen and CO2 production. All the recommended foods can be protein substituted or microfarmed in labs.

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– Kienan 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Wow, this dude is a retard.

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– kaykazumi 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This feels eerily similar to "brought to you by Brawndo, it's got ELECTROLYTES"

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