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posted 1 year ago by SmiggieBalls 1 year ago by SmiggieBalls +86 / -0
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– Mpetey123 39 points 1 year ago +39 / -0

The worst thing about noticing is when you see it in the stuff you watched as a kid. Night Court was full of far left ideas. Shit even Andy Griffith had some soft women empowerment episodes.

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– Arkana 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

Yep. It goes back all the way to the inception of Hollywood. It accelerated again once TVs became commonplace, and grew even further after the civil rights movement. You can find remnants of that all over.

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– MegoThor 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Out of all of Andy’s girlfriends, Helen Crump was the worst!

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– Mpetey123 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I was trying to think of how many girlfriends he had. He dated the pharmacist, and the one rich lady, and Helen. I could be missing someone. All of them had feminist storylines.

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– MegoThor 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

There was also Peggy, who was a nurse. The lady pharmacist, Ellie, was my favorite.

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– Totsugeki 35 points 1 year ago +35 / -0

The Matrix. The good guys are an Asian mutt, magical Negro, androgynous girl boss (possibly tranny in real life), and a minor character that was supposed to be a tranny (Switch). The bad guys are exclusively White men.

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– Feelsgood2020 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Independence Day. Loony side character White Man sacrifices himself to save the planet while the lead Jew and Negro survive as heroes.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

White guy is also the president. You're reading way too much into that.

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– SR388-SAX 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Gotta agree here -- and also, heroic sacrifice is a good way to go.

The thing I always found amusing was at the end with the "they're coming down all over the globe!" bit.

Fucking how? It took the entire remnants of the US air force to hit one of those vulnerable laser cannon things. Maybe Russia would have had enough air power to get in a lucky strike as well but everywhere else? SOL. IIRC, there was even a shot of one coming down over like an African savannah and even at the time I was thinking, "what, did they chuck spears at it?"

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– Mpetey123 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I haven't seen the movie but in the sequel don't they have a scene with an African warlord who was supposedly the only guy to stop the aliens from a ground invasion

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

My only rationalization is that most of the other Air Forces bunkered themselves when they saw the USAF completely shit the bed, and then a nuke due no real damage. Once it became clear that they could launch an effective attack, the remaining air forces would move as quickly as possible to strike.

For Africa, I'm rationalizing that it's a kind of South African led Pan-African coalition.

Weirdly enough, there's a bunch of countries in Africa with working jets. Including Ethiopia. Hypothetically, if the aliens have already had a mortal blow to their primary command and control center, a prepared air-force of minor nations could have launched an effective strike package on them. They'd be 3rd and 4th generation air craft, but if the enemy's already crippled, you're still probably fine.

That's the way that I would rationalize it.

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– Mpetey123 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Not to mention the British guys in the movie were in Egypt.

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– SR388-SAX 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

There's ways to rationalize it, but they're all ridiculous.

Every one of those ships had a fleet of fighters on board. Even if you've got a few working aircraft here or there, the only reason Randy Quaid's effort was allowed to happen was because of mob numbers.

Also, we're ignoring that the mothership just allowed in an old ship with no authentication whatsoever, after it just shows up outside for no reason. So this super advanced alien race can't keep track of what ships were lost 50 years ago and, maybe, not simply trust them by default?

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– Mpetey123 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Will Smith was the first choice for Neo.

Edit - And more proof of your point The Wachowski things have said it's an analogy for transsexualism.

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– PraiseBeToScience 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Edit - And more proof of your point The Wachowski things have said it's an analogy for transsexualism.

I'm 100% certain that that is total revisionism.

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– Webspawner3 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The OG matrix movie is awesome. Wyd are you talking about it lol? If you make an amazing movie IDC what race people are

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– SR388-SAX 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

If you make an amazing movie IDC what race people are

Neither did I. Until I came to understand that the movie makers hate me.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I think if the work is good enough, it's still worth watching if it's property advanced, creative, or innovative.

There was a time when our enemies were actually very creative.

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– Totsugeki 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I get it. It's hard to reconcile that a genuinely good film with a cast that nailed their roles had an underlying agenda, but the deliberate racial casting is impossible to ignore. If The Matrix came out this month and not back during the '90s, then we would all be roasting the casting decisions.

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– weltallic 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Never forget to point out that since they transitioned, they are the top earning female directors of ALL TIME.

The Matrix trilogy is a triumph for women film makers.

The highest, best selling movie by a female director of all time!

  1. Matrix Reloaded (Lana & Lilly Wachowski) – $739 million
  2. Frozen II (Co-Directed by Jennifer Lee) – $477.4 million
  3. The Matrix (Lana & Lilly Wachowski) – $463 million
  4. The Matrix Revolutions (Lana & Lilly Wachowski) – $427 million
  5. Captain Marvel (Co-Directed by Anna Boden) – $426 million
  6. Wonder Woman (Directed by Patty Jenkins) – $412 million
  7. Frozen (Co-Directed by Jennifer Lee) – $400 million
  8. Shrek (Co-Directed by Vicky Jenson) – $267 million
  9. Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel (Directed by Betty Thomas) – $219 million
  10. Twilight (Directed by Catherine Hardwicke) – $192 million

And women everywhere clap furiously... right?

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– MCMoneyPants 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Lana & Lilly Wachowski

WTF?? I had not heard this. There's no way these dudes aren't banging each other.

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– AcidOverlord 32 points 1 year ago +32 / -0

The one that blew me away fairly recently was rewatching one of my favorite 90s TV shows, Babylon 5. Binge watching the episodes, unlike then when they were a week or more, and sometimes outright months apart, I picked up on a shitload of wokeslop and outright Leftardism that never registered before. A few of the major standouts:

When the Earth Civil War is just starting, there's a short scene where Ivonova is talking to Sheridan about President Clark's anti-alien policies. Specifically that he's "weeding out corruption and traitors" from Earthgov, and Ivonova even says "his policies have made the cities on Earth safer than they've ever been, and his popularity is through the roof." She's visibly angry about it, and they have a quick talk about how common folks are cowards who just want to feel safe. Its only about 10 episodes later that Clark is revealed to be a big bad working with the Shadows, but it absolutely comes across as a welcome excuse to Sheridan and crew. They needed a reason to oppose Clark, and the plot gave them one.

Another big one is when the Minbari Civil War ends and Delenn reorganizes the Grey Council. Now instead of consisting of 3 members each from the Religious Case, Warrior Caste, and Worker Caste, where will be 3 Warriors, 3 Religious, and EIGHT from the Worker Caste. She goes on about helping muh proletariat and how they should be the ones with the real power anyway.

Bester has a sleazy attitude, but it's also 100% true that Sheridan and company are breaking Earth laws and the Psy Corp's rules on almost a daily basis. When you stop looking at the person and just at a guy doing his job, the B5 crew are absolutely the badguys. Literally corrupt and rebellious. I think JMS picked up on this at some point because Bester was given his whole moustache twirling villain arc very late in the show's run, as if to scream YES HE'S A BAD GUY."

Then there was the whole deal with the Night Watch. Since the B5 crew weren't being very trustworthy, the President mobilized a militia of their own citizens to keep an eye on things. The show portrayed this in a very stilted, Gestapo-esque light.

There was a lot more, sandwiched between the Sci-Fi plot arcs, and more that's come out in later interviews (Delenn was supposed to be a male to female tranny, not a Minbari to Human change, but JMS couldn't get it past the censors.) The political stuff gets so stilted that if I didn't know the show was made 30 years ago, I'd swear it was taking swipes at Trump.

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– Totsugeki 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

One scene that always stuck with me from that show is where they have some religious service where they clearly show a Rabbi, a Christian, and then Delenn and a bunch of other aliens all worshipping together. Felt old school, New World Order-ish conspiracy theory. And I don't feel like going back to confirm this, but I don't remember there being any Muslims or Hindus in that scene either, because only Christians are acceptable targets.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

I watched that episode not too long ago and that part has a ton of different religions including a Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, and some kind of Native American shaman.

I thought it was weird how every other Species has a religion that their whole planet practices but Humanity has all these different religions, but I suppose that was the point.

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– RoulerBleu 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I assume it's just lazy writing.

Like how interplanetary sci-fi shows usually have one language per planet, if they bother having anything but insert language of the dub here for the whole universe.

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– Kopkot 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's typical all faiths are valid crap.

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– Mpetey123 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I prefer the seperate countries and religions as opposed to the sanitized, atheistic, space communism of Star Trek

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

I just started watching it for the first time, and I am really enjoying it so far but there’s definitely a lot of dunking on silly “space racists” , diversity is our strength, being human first or Earth first is seen as a bad thing, we should all buddy up to these violent aliens for some reason, etc. I can see that Mass Effect borrowed a lot from it.

It hasn’t been bad enough to really piss me off yet, Garibaldi and Sheridan actually seem pretty based so I just chalk it up to well meaning 90’s Lolbertarianism rather than any kind of subversive faggotry.

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– Mpetey123 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I know Jerry Doyle was a Wall Street guy before B5 and a conservative radio host after B5. So Doyle himself was a lean right guy.

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– AcidOverlord 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Doyle was also very unpopular on set, with the other cast shit talking him in interviews years after, before he died. The two things are likely connected.

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– Mpetey123 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I didn't know that. Thanks

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– MassivePecorino 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Same thing with Tim Allen, James Caviezel, and Norm McDonald.

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– Mpetey123 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I always disliked the Human Civil War stuff. I wasn't even a noticer then but I kinda felt Sheridan was really quick to kill humans and forgive aliens.

B5 is a good example of Enemy/Friend distinction. If you were on the right side everything was forgivable and justifiable but if you had the wrong outlook you were forever in the wrong

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Season 5 has the new female captain to replace Sheridan and she immediately comes in to show up Garibaldi, beating him up a couple of times, and then help him get out of the grips of alcoholism later.

She wasn't a total girl boss but it was pretty embarrassing to watch. At least they found a premise to put her in a bikini once.

Oh, and there's the "the only time I ever knew love was with Talia Winters" from Ivanovich before she maybe sort of loves the ranger dude while on her death bed as he sacrifices himself for her when she'd never given him any reason to and 100% friend zoned him. At least it was a hot lesbian "romance" I suppose.

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– weltallic 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Season 5 has the new female captain

Everything Sheridan did, he did in THREE YEARS as captain of B5.

I remember the Crusade sequel series (soundtrack: dinka-donka-dinka-donka...) they checked in on Lochley, and she had been captain of B5 for... I don't remember... 6 years? Seven?

And literally nothing had changed. Particularly Her. She looked and acted the same way she did on day #1.

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– weltallic 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Nightwatch

Report your fellow citizens to keep the government safe!

https://i.imgur.com/vz069EF.jpeg

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– LastRights 24 points 1 year ago +24 / -0

The nineties were dominated by feminism and political correctness. It was the time when the school systems in the Western world were re-alligned in order to churn out school students bathed in propaganda about 'poor minorities', 'mass immigration is good' and 'feminism will lead the way'.

There was a backlash against that absurdity in the late nineties as well, but because the institutional framework wasn't changed, they kept pushing their propaganda on school students. The MSM, the entertainment industry, the music industry and Hollywoke also joined in.

By the late nineties rap music and hip hop were the predominant music genres in pop music, which started to influence movies (like Scream 2), which in turn started to influence other things.

My theory is still that the DNC started pushing these things (or hijacked the trend) in order to capture the black voting bloc, which was indispensable for Democratic success in presidential elections.

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– ZeroPercentCamoIndex 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

It makes it all the more of a mask drop moment when anyone pointing to cultural subversion in that era decides, of all examples, to pick out Saved By the Bell and Friends... Bumped straight up to Alert Mode when that person is brown.

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– LastRights 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

The eighties and nineties are also the decades of MTV, which ultimately gave us the 'documentary' called 'White People' in 2015. Something that they were working up to in hindsight.

MTV relentlessly pushed the victimhood narrative about how black people were just so deserving for simply being black and having being oppressed in decades prior. They were also instrumental in propelling the fame of movie star Will Smith to astronomical heights with the MTV movie awards and promotion of his music videos.

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– NiggersAreTards 22 points 1 year ago +22 / -0

Decades ago I was in after school religious classes for Catholicism and every fucking photo in the book was niggers. You'd think we were worshiping some santeria chicken god and not Jesus.

and yes, they have been pushing the love of niggers for generations. millenials were just too weak minded and sucked that nigger cock wholeheartedly. They would tongue fuck nigger ass if jews told them.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Judging by your language and intellect, I assume you left Catholicism behind a long time ago?

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– NiggersAreTards 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Yes, it's a jewish distraction

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– HallucinatoryBeing 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Captain Planet, the Burger King Kids Club, Power Rangers and its Medieval Ireland knockoff, Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog, maybe Final Fantasy VII and Barret.

I also remember Ken Griffey Jr. being prominent in baseball, but I don't know if his fame was organic or pushed by the media.

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– Mpetey123 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Ken Griffey Jr. was a child of a great baseball player, and was also an amazing baseball player. He was the face of baseball but he was a handsome guy who happened to be a near perfect ball player when healthy.

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– toxicbiofacts 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Medieval Ireland knockoff, Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog

kek I remember this.

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– MLGS 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

They might have been more eager to push Griffey because he was black but it was 100% justifiable because he was that good. He was right there in the running with Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa during the home run record chase in 1998.

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– EggShenBusTours 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

The 2 part episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9 where Sisko time travels into the body of a 21st century mass immigration martyr. I can't rewatch it because it is too intellectually offensive.

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– rebuildingMyself 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

There's a filler episode where the crew goes into the Holodeck to solve a mystery. Its supposed to resemble a casino heist from the 50s. Sisko made sure to throw a big fit about how "his people" were treated like shit back then.

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– LauriThorne 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

You'd think you'd be over it after 600 years.

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– ernsithe 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

In 1969, they thought people would have moved past it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BBOWsWODX4
In 1999 they thought they wouldn't.

Whole lot of social engineering in those 30 years.

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– PraiseBeToScience 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You'd think others would be over something else after 2,000 years but they still spit on the Arch of Titus.

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– Mpetey123 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Oh even more on the nose when he goes back to the 30s as a sci fi writer. He tries telling the DS9 story but keeps getting rejected because there is a black captain

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– Sneak_King 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Ira Steven Behr is a faggot and probably a yid, but he usually had the restraint to at least try to be subtle about things. Occasionally he forgets, like when he throws Ferengi civilization into a chipper-shredder at the end of the show. It was such a "woke" move, both Armin Shimmerman and Max Grodenchik objected.

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– SR388-SAX 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

"They have such a strict galaxy-wide patriarchy that all it takes is like 5 years and one woman and one weak-willed leader to overthrow it."

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– Mpetey123 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Moogy was smarter than centuries of men.

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– Unknownsailor 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

Subversive TV/Movie content has been a Hollywood staple since the very inception of the genre. Why? Because it was, and is, Jew run.

You have to decide for yourself what your tolerance will be. Babylon 5, to use the previous example, was not hamfisted about it, unlike today, and you only see it now because you are hyper attuned to it.

What I realized only recently is how much TV and Movie entertainment has shaped the thought processes of the American culture. In those shower thought moments we all have when we are contemplative, I have been thinking about all the ways watching TV and Movies have shaped how I think, and I realized that I have been programmed my entire life by such content.

It was a sobering moment.

Now I am starting to think about how to expand my cultural exposure by seeking out genuine European works, of all sources...

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– FlyingCow 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

not going as far back as you, but Legend of Korra fits as an example i'd say

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– Arkana 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Even back to the original you tend to have Katara as the "level headed one" and Sokka as the idiot, mirroring Lisa and Bart from the Simpsons.

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– -Fender- 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

At least in that show, although Sokka was often the comic relief, he was also often shown as heroic and intelligent. The man with the plan, to whose authority the others often deferred during the hardest times. He wasn't just a jester used to ridicule men and manhood as a whole.

Legend of Korra has far too many things wrong with it to be redeemable. It may have had some potential with some of its plot points, but they were all badly handled and concluded. It was also utterly filled with retcons and Mary Sue / girlboss moments, to the point that you couldn't ever get a good sense of who characters were, what relationships they had between each others, and what abilities they had. It was just a trash show in general.

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– Adamrises 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sokka also was a very good lesson of a character in the difference between assuming authority, because you are the oldest, the man, etc, and having to earn it through actions and leadership prowess.

That's something most of us this side of the culture probably need to learn at some point.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You could argue Sokka was a clown to hide his insecurities over his lack of waterbending ability.

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– -Fender- 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That too. He was a complex character, constantly worried about having to protect his clan, his family and those he loves, while trying to pull his weight in their group, despite not having the same kind of magical abilities over elements that the others possessed.

Meanwhile, in Korra, nearly every character was either one-dimensional, or an anthropomorphised trope, or a plot device. Even Korra herself would conveniently forget she had abilities she'd displayed before, just because if she'd been competent and consistent, then the antagonists would have been defeated within minutes of their first encounters. She would fail or succeed challenges, not because it made sense narratively, but just because the plot demanded it.

It's hard to fathom that the same writer wrote on both shows, considering the vast difference in quality between the two.

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– PraiseBeToScience 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I don't know if that's totally fair. Katara was the mother figure, Sokka, while comic relief, was also perfectly level-headed and also the one with the balls.

I have a bigger problem with the original because Katara has no arc at all, she plays the mother hen the entire show, except like one fucking episode they threw in right before the finale with bloodbending because the writers thought it up too late in the series to do anything with it.

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– toxicbiofacts 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Typical "feminist sequelitis".

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– ernsithe 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

PCU came out 31 years ago. It was already a university epidemic, but it was still mockable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK994dAzcKI

Maybe we should bring back "causehead."

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– Kienan 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

"Gays in the military, now!"

Oof. A simpler time, when they were whining about this shit, instead of it just being reality.

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– Smith1980 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Saw that in middle school. Need to rewatch knowing what I know now. All I remember is the George Clinton concert at the end

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That is what's so fun about rewatching shows you use to watch as a kid, is you can go back as an adult and pick out the subversions.

You can, but how do you know for sure that it is actually 'subversion' and that you're not being like the feminists seeing 'sexism' where non existed, or at the very least was intended?

If I asked you to write 10 scripts, and you had to struggle to create some story, I'm sure I could point to some elements in any, simply because you wanted to come up with an interesting story/character. For example, can you do Aladdin without the princess not wanting to marry? Maybe. It might be 'subverison', but then again, it might not be.

(Naturally, I'm not playing devil's advocate for all of it. Some of it is as you say.)

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– ThreeLights 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

1980s: Walmarts in Alabama required to hire 50% black employees if they wanted built. Won’t be in the news anywhere but Walmart was big enough, the small Alabama towns couldn’t say no.

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– Feelsgood2020 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Goodbye peaceful sundown town. Walmart brought mandatory diversity and closed down the local hardware store.

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– ThreeLights 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

What’s even worst is Walmart are now leaving these small towns because it’s not profitable enough. It opens the town to get their mom and pop stores back but until they get the logistics setup, these towns are left without a pharmacy or grocery store.

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– Benevolentdictator 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Realistically most of those towns are only going to get a Dollar General/Family Dollar equivalent if they don't already have one.

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– Adamrises 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I don't know how different Alabama is from Louisiana, but if its similar then they wouldn't have even needed a mandate to accomplish that. Every low income job in almost every town was covered by the local negros because its all they could get hired at, and (unlike the rest of America) there were a lot of blacks to easily cover that.

I still remember the first time I left the Swamps and went to a McDonalds and was greeted by someone with a smile who was actually helpful. I didn't think that was possible, and it genuinely changed my understanding of the world.

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– AbleistSL 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0
  • Peter griffin in early family guy being depicted as a sexist pervert is a big example of proto-wokeness, alongside some badly aged jokes about the RNC that dates back to the neocon era.

  • The Simpsons also has badly aged jokes about right wingers.

  • Cotton from king of the hill is a less extreme example of the "sexist perv" bullshit derived from objectification theory as that one early episode can easily be censored by censoring out the ass slaps.

  • In one episode of the buzz lightyear cartoon, the robot squadmate got called a sexist pervert by the female alien squadmate after he said something degenerate.

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– Mpetey123 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Blackpilled points this out frequently, but in early Simpsons and Family Guy both families regularly went to church. Nowadays even the "ultra" conservative American Dad doesn't go to church

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– KekistanPM 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I still remember when Reverend Lovejoy said to Marge (I think) about the Bible "Have you even read this thing? According to the Bible you're not even supposed to go to the bathroom..."

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

American Dad is still out there?

It's good that he doesn't go to church, he would only do it to attack the church anyway.

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– Mpetey123 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I believe it is.

It's about the zeitgeist. When Simpsons and Family Fuy started going to church was the norm for most Americans. Now even a character who is supposed to be an ultra conservative guy isn't even going to church

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– KekistanPM 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Futurama had a recurring Nixon's Head character. I'm convinced that the left has, for over a generation, tirelessly tried to make Nixon the patron devil of anyone whose political beliefs are even center-right.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Peter griffin in early family guy being depicted as a sexist pervert is a big example of proto-wokeness

That raises an interesting question. Is it woke to make jokes about a guy being a sexist pervert? As long as there is no preachiness about it and it is left to the audience to make of it what he wants, it is fine by me.

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– AbleistSL 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The issue is that it makes a false connection between sexism and perversion, which promotes the extremist feminist concept called objectification theory.

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– subbookkeeper 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

The 90's were actually lousy with it, but it was very ham fisted and didn't have the widespread cultural backing so it kind of fell flat.

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– Mpetey123 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

And most of us were kids and most kids aren't attuned to those things

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– SwampRangers 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

In the 80s I read reporting that people had discovered a new theory taught by a couple professors on a couple college campuses that made absolutely no sense but it needed to be shown how strange professors had gotten. They had invented something they called "political correctness". At that time it was basically starting with the idea of being polite and then upending it to make the offended person omnipotent over everyone else. Clearly nobody could live life like that, so these outliers were ignored as they couldn't possibly affect the Reagan boom. Around that time The Jeffersons and Diff'rent Strokes were regarded as just balanced racial representation, and every now and then a sitcom would out a gay character or put characters in a casual sex situation (stolen from soaps). By 1990 the AFA was warning us about boiling frogs but they made a couple errors in their evaluations of less-than-provable Disney suspicions so everyone still gave culture a pass. Happy Days, Wonder Years, Good Times.

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– DemolitionsPanda 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

The term Politically Correct is Soviet.

There is factually correct, which is actually true. Then there is Politically Correct, which isn't true, but we will all pretend it is because of political reasons.

People who ignored the political truth went to the gulag.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I was gonna say, SwampRangers is mis-remembering shit because Political Correctness wasn't invented, it was imported.

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– BetterNameUnfound 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

The AFA? You mean the American Family Association?

The late Donald Wildmon and his son Tim deserve so much more credit for fighting for values than they get.

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– rebuildingMyself 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Grrlbossing was prevalent in those shows as well. Plenty of skits of poor oppressed girl wants to play sports with the boys and somehow does better than all of them

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Had a bit of the hockey game on in the background.

Ray Ferraro, Canadian color guy who married American player Cammi Granato, was talking about his wife's never-ending stumping for equality in women's hockey while moralfagging about how they both long for a day "when a world exists that she no longer has to".

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Ray Ferraro, Canadian color guy who married American player Cammi Granato

Man, I wish my memory for the names of historical figures were as good as those of Americans for celebrities. It's as if they have thousands of names at the ready. It's a very impressive feat but used for an unimpressive purpose.

how they both long for a day "when a world exists that she no longer has to".

So today, except that they need a fake cause to virtue-signal about and to get attention.

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– toxicbiofacts 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I’ve noticed that most low budget productions in general were infested with some form of wokeness. For example, pick a random 90s Disney animated movie and compare it with its straight-to-VHS sequel/Disney channel series.

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– Kopkot 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Magic school bus has climate stuff, super diverse kids, and typical boss girl characters.

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– rentfREEEE_since2016 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

“Girl power” in general. Your entire education from middle school onwards, the career vs motherhood narrative. Every contemporary piece of literature/fiction portraying motherhood as some kind of miserable. No fathers in movies. I dunno. That one you can see the repercussions of in a big way today.

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– Benevolentdictator 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Was watching Thelma & Louise (1991) and was wondering if it qualifies.

Definitely lots of girlboss themes. The male characters are all caricatures - the honky tonk parking lot rapist, Shooter McGavin the deadbeat husband, the pervert hick trucker making cunnilingus gestures, Brad Pitt as a smooth talking Chad thief

The plot is essentially two women making increasingly poor choices and instead of taking responsibility, they histrionically drive into the Grand Canyon.

They decide not to go to the cops after shooting the rapist because "100 witnesses saw Thelma dancing with him all night".

In the end though, I'd say it doesn't count. It's 80s-90s feminist but not 2025 lunacy.

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– DemolitionsPanda 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

It absolutely counts. Feminism is, from start to finish, the idea that Men are Dominant Oppressors and Women are Helpless Victims.

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– SR388-SAX 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Watched the original run of Twilight Zone. There was a bit of proto-woke here and there but for the most part it was really, really mild.

Except for two episodes.

One (I think it was called "He's Really Alive" or something) opens on a group of neo Nazis standing on a street corner holding a pathetic rally with a sweaty, insecure leader who gets his ass kicked by a heckler. I'm like, "ok, I know where this is going." Skip. Didn't even make it to the Rod Serling introduction.

Another (I forget the title) takes place in some guy's attic where he's cleaning up some stuff. He's a WW2 vet who fought in the Pacific theater so doesn't have a high opinion of the Japanese. George Takei walks in (I should have skipped the episode as soon as he walked in) and the vet says some bigoted stuff to him but also immediately laughs it off in an "I'm just giving you a hard time" so I got fooled into thinking, well, maybe they'll actually show these guys getting along and that war is hell.

Well, it didn't go that way and it became pretty clear that George Takei was going to murder him and it was going to be a Good Thing. So I skipped the rest of that because fuck George Takei anyway.

The rest was very good. Men doing man things, women doing women things, and villains getting what they deserve.

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– Mpetey123 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Rod Serling was a progressive jew so yeah The Twilight Zone is woke. I still have a weakness to it, I think it's very good.

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– ernsithe 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

ok, I know where this is going

Possessed and then abandoned by the literal ghost of Hitler.

George Takei was going to murder him and it was going to be a Good Thing.

That one is a little more murky. Takei's character's dad was a traitor at Perl Harbor who assisted with the bombing. The vet gets impaled and dies but then Takei jumps out the window to his death screaming "BANZAI!" I shit you not. The whole thing supposed to be some statement about haunting guilt.

The woke crowd actually hate that episode because the mere suggestion of treachery at Pearl Harbor means that EO 9066 might have been based on something besides pure racism.

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– Kopkot 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Haha I commented magic school bus. Its def woke training about all the social issues.

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– ZodShael 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

On Kia reddit back in 2017 someone posted a comedy skit from the late 80's or early 90's about politically correct students censorship.

But I always saw the couples complaining about the toilet seat being a way of adding instability to marriages. Also there's a 70's episode with Arnold where women are encouraged to get divorced and be strong and independent.

Anything captain planet.

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– TheOutlaw 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I've been meaning to post a thread somewhat related to this. It doesn't go back as far as this but it does show that this shit didn't start in 2014.

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– WilliverTwo 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

"wokeness" just call it what it is, fetishizing mixed-race couples to a creepy, exaggerated degree to children.

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– MartinRigggs 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Just watch BlackPilled’s “the gay 90’s” series on rumble or Odysee, you’ll find plenty of examples. Media bagels were pushing LGBT and race mixing hard back then, they were normalizing all of that stuff but none of us really noticed it, that’s how social engineering works….Same deal with popularizing rap in the White community as they demonized White history, knowing it would lead Whites to gravitate toward that sort of culture. All intentional, it has been going on in Hollywood as far back as the 1940’s, of course it grew more blatant as the decades passed by, once it’s normalized they can push the behavioral engineering even further.

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– WitchHunterSiegfried 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/hollywoodism:4 A good video on the subject

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– nuggetpatrol 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The wave we are most familiar with started around 2012.

It got heavier in 2014.

Then they went absolutely warp speed in 2016 with it when they realized it wasn't working, so they had to make it seem normal at all cost.

If you give them the ammunition that it was always there chud just accept that you were wrong about everything and it's always been leftist/social justice/etc, you too are using today's lens to look at the past and examine what is and what is not acceptable.

There might be echoes of similarity in the past, but that was the stand out, not the norm. I am willing to bet people would have noticed this bullshit much earlier if it was everywhere and all the time, instead of just one or two episodes in a long running show.

It was meant more of a way to make a character feel more accepted or more encouraged. If you conflate the "If you try, you can achieve it, we believe in you" mantra episodes from shows of the 50s and 60s with their socjus, that's unhelpful. It was meant more to motivate people to be more independent and self reliant, critical thinking.

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– WEFFaggotsMustDie 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I'd say the current wave started around 2007/8 when schools throughout the entire Anglosphere banned words like "gay" and "retarded", which most of the time weren't meant with malice, from the classroom and playground alike. Banning indoor smoking also contributed greatly to the pussification of our present society.

Definitely picked up with all the bullshit surrounding Chic-Fil-A around the time of gay marriage being made legal (plus "bake the cake bigot"), and Lena Dunham's "Girls" hitting TV. By Gamergate, it was already full steam ahead because they had the media connections and we weren't yet ready to admit the whole system was rotten from the inside out.

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– DieHeretic 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It all started years ago with kid's shows, all of it. The source of all the current degeneracy can be found there.

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– Mpetey123 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I'll tell you something you can watch for to see cultural shaping, smoking. Watch older media you'll see just tons of smoking. Nowadays no one smokes.

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– PraiseBeToScience 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I remember being on a forum for Half-Life mods back in like 2001/2002. They had a "discussions" forum where you could talk about 'serious topics'.

The issue of Nationalism came up and all the proto-woke faggots and Euronigs were talking about how "unsettling" nationalism was and "only Americans wave their flag, it's CREEPY and WEIRD".

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– weltallic 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Star Trek: Voyager

The native American commander had LITERAL MAGIC POWERS.

Because "muh tribal elders."

That said, there were moments of uncomfortable clarity:

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/y2pck93g9e7.mp4

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/46acqa828z7.mp4

And let's not forget that while many of us grew up watching DS9 and liking Sisko... I'll never forget how he did something so profoundly Leftist and anti-Star Trek that it disturbed me even then:

https://i.imgur.com/WrgGXTY.png

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– PatrikStar24 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
  • Captain Planet has already been mentioned several times, so I'm throwing in my vote with no further commentary.

  • George Lopez's self-titled sitcom from the mid 2000s had it's fair share of woke moments.

Here's 2 examples: [1] There's an episode where a racist white guy moves into the neighborhood and puts up statues of sleeping Mexicans with their head buried under their sombreros next to a statue of a donkey. George gets indignant to the point he shouts "viva la raza". He then plotted with his TV-show mother to smash the statuettes in the middle of the night, but never got to, because his previous outburst encouraged his TV-show son to do it instead (while recording himself in the act, no less, also saying "viva la raza"). In the end, the neighbor took the statues down after a sternly-worded letter from the TV-show wife.

[2] There's another episode where a registered sex offender moves into the neighborhood, and it causes George to stir up a lynch mob. They knock on the door, and it turns out to be a woman, everybody goes home. The TV-show wife is righty disturbed by this double standard (with George dismissing her), and after an argument she starts printing flyers offscreen that are implied to have basically said "stay away from this person". The son then asks George how to get girls in what appears to be a side plot, and long story short, the son misinterprets what he is told.

[2 cont.] Next thing we know, the son shows up at the sex offender's house, the situation looking bad for her. However, she is able to explain that the son hopped her fence, took his shirt off, made a provocative statement then pulled out a condom. So George and wife bring him home and ask why the hell he did what he did. First, the aforementioned misinterpretation of what George told him about getting girls, saying he had to be "bold and confident to get a woman" (George says in his own defense he was referring to girls his son's age). Then the son says he saw the flyers the TV-show wife was printing and thought she looked pretty. He gets more of a stern talking to from that point, and the situation is never brought up again in future episodes.

There are also non-woke episodes that aged like milk, like the one that spends more or less its entire runtime shilling for life insurance. It's not all bad, though, there are moments like this that have aged like a fine wine.

  • The Charmed reboot is horrible on its face (never watched it), but in hindsight it had its foundation laid from the original show (1998-2006). The side plots for a lot of episodes (and main plots for a few) has the girls whoring around and trying to hook up with the nearest lughead they can wrap their arms around frequently. At one point in the series, there is an entire arc that can best be described "The Alyssa Milano Boo-Boo Hour" times however many episodes it lasted until progressing the story. The male main characters are often the ones singled out for bad writing, but not all the time. Overall the show can best be described as "Feminist" in the 2nd-wave sense.
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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

A lot of classic Disney movies center around a stronk woman. Even Sleeping Beauty, who doesn't want to marry the prince her dad wants her. In Aladdin and Little Mermaid you also have that. Now, I don't think that this is necessarily woke, but it could be.

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– SuurSuomi39_II 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes, miscegenation has pushed through various forms of entertainment media for decades.

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