The one that blew me away fairly recently was rewatching one of my favorite 90s TV shows, Babylon 5. Binge watching the episodes, unlike then when they were a week or more, and sometimes outright months apart, I picked up on a shitload of wokeslop and outright Leftardism that never registered before. A few of the major standouts:
When the Earth Civil War is just starting, there's a short scene where Ivonova is talking to Sheridan about President Clark's anti-alien policies. Specifically that he's "weeding out corruption and traitors" from Earthgov, and Ivonova even says "his policies have made the cities on Earth safer than they've ever been, and his popularity is through the roof." She's visibly angry about it, and they have a quick talk about how common folks are cowards who just want to feel safe. Its only about 10 episodes later that Clark is revealed to be a big bad working with the Shadows, but it absolutely comes across as a welcome excuse to Sheridan and crew. They needed a reason to oppose Clark, and the plot gave them one.
Another big one is when the Minbari Civil War ends and Delenn reorganizes the Grey Council. Now instead of consisting of 3 members each from the Religious Case, Warrior Caste, and Worker Caste, where will be 3 Warriors, 3 Religious, and EIGHT from the Worker Caste. She goes on about helping muh proletariat and how they should be the ones with the real power anyway.
Bester has a sleazy attitude, but it's also 100% true that Sheridan and company are breaking Earth laws and the Psy Corp's rules on almost a daily basis. When you stop looking at the person and just at a guy doing his job, the B5 crew are absolutely the badguys. Literally corrupt and rebellious. I think JMS picked up on this at some point because Bester was given his whole moustache twirling villain arc very late in the show's run, as if to scream YES HE'S A BAD GUY."
Then there was the whole deal with the Night Watch. Since the B5 crew weren't being very trustworthy, the President mobilized a militia of their own citizens to keep an eye on things. The show portrayed this in a very stilted, Gestapo-esque light.
There was a lot more, sandwiched between the Sci-Fi plot arcs, and more that's come out in later interviews (Delenn was supposed to be a male to female tranny, not a Minbari to Human change, but JMS couldn't get it past the censors.) The political stuff gets so stilted that if I didn't know the show was made 30 years ago, I'd swear it was taking swipes at Trump.
One scene that always stuck with me from that show is where they have some religious service where they clearly show a Rabbi, a Christian, and then Delenn and a bunch of other aliens all worshipping together. Felt old school, New World Order-ish conspiracy theory. And I don't feel like going back to confirm this, but I don't remember there being any Muslims or Hindus in that scene either, because only Christians are acceptable targets.
I watched that episode not too long ago and that part has a ton of different religions including a Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, and some kind of Native American shaman.
I thought it was weird how every other Species has a religion that their whole planet practices but Humanity has all these different religions, but I suppose that was the point.
Like how interplanetary sci-fi shows usually have one language per planet, if they bother having anything but insert language of the dub here for the whole universe.
I just started watching it for the first time, and I am really enjoying it so far but there’s definitely a lot of dunking on silly “space racists” , diversity is our strength, being human first or Earth first is seen as a bad thing, we should all buddy up to these violent aliens for some reason, etc. I can see that Mass Effect borrowed a lot from it.
It hasn’t been bad enough to really piss me off yet, Garibaldi and Sheridan actually seem pretty based so I just chalk it up to well meaning 90’s Lolbertarianism rather than any kind of subversive faggotry.
Doyle was also very unpopular on set, with the other cast shit talking him in interviews years after, before he died. The two things are likely connected.
I always disliked the Human Civil War stuff. I wasn't even a noticer then but I kinda felt Sheridan was really quick to kill humans and forgive aliens.
B5 is a good example of Enemy/Friend distinction. If you were on the right side everything was forgivable and justifiable but if you had the wrong outlook you were forever in the wrong
Season 5 has the new female captain to replace Sheridan and she immediately comes in to show up Garibaldi, beating him up a couple of times, and then help him get out of the grips of alcoholism later.
She wasn't a total girl boss but it was pretty embarrassing to watch. At least they found a premise to put her in a bikini once.
Oh, and there's the "the only time I ever knew love was with Talia Winters" from Ivanovich before she maybe sort of loves the ranger dude while on her death bed as he sacrifices himself for her when she'd never given him any reason to and 100% friend zoned him. At least it was a hot lesbian "romance" I suppose.
Everything Sheridan did, he did in THREE YEARS as captain of B5.
I remember the Crusade sequel series (soundtrack: dinka-donka-dinka-donka...) they checked in on Lochley, and she had been captain of B5 for... I don't remember... 6 years? Seven?
And literally nothing had changed. Particularly Her. She looked and acted the same way she did on day #1.
The one that blew me away fairly recently was rewatching one of my favorite 90s TV shows, Babylon 5. Binge watching the episodes, unlike then when they were a week or more, and sometimes outright months apart, I picked up on a shitload of wokeslop and outright Leftardism that never registered before. A few of the major standouts:
When the Earth Civil War is just starting, there's a short scene where Ivonova is talking to Sheridan about President Clark's anti-alien policies. Specifically that he's "weeding out corruption and traitors" from Earthgov, and Ivonova even says "his policies have made the cities on Earth safer than they've ever been, and his popularity is through the roof." She's visibly angry about it, and they have a quick talk about how common folks are cowards who just want to feel safe. Its only about 10 episodes later that Clark is revealed to be a big bad working with the Shadows, but it absolutely comes across as a welcome excuse to Sheridan and crew. They needed a reason to oppose Clark, and the plot gave them one.
Another big one is when the Minbari Civil War ends and Delenn reorganizes the Grey Council. Now instead of consisting of 3 members each from the Religious Case, Warrior Caste, and Worker Caste, where will be 3 Warriors, 3 Religious, and EIGHT from the Worker Caste. She goes on about helping muh proletariat and how they should be the ones with the real power anyway.
Bester has a sleazy attitude, but it's also 100% true that Sheridan and company are breaking Earth laws and the Psy Corp's rules on almost a daily basis. When you stop looking at the person and just at a guy doing his job, the B5 crew are absolutely the badguys. Literally corrupt and rebellious. I think JMS picked up on this at some point because Bester was given his whole moustache twirling villain arc very late in the show's run, as if to scream YES HE'S A BAD GUY."
Then there was the whole deal with the Night Watch. Since the B5 crew weren't being very trustworthy, the President mobilized a militia of their own citizens to keep an eye on things. The show portrayed this in a very stilted, Gestapo-esque light.
There was a lot more, sandwiched between the Sci-Fi plot arcs, and more that's come out in later interviews (Delenn was supposed to be a male to female tranny, not a Minbari to Human change, but JMS couldn't get it past the censors.) The political stuff gets so stilted that if I didn't know the show was made 30 years ago, I'd swear it was taking swipes at Trump.
One scene that always stuck with me from that show is where they have some religious service where they clearly show a Rabbi, a Christian, and then Delenn and a bunch of other aliens all worshipping together. Felt old school, New World Order-ish conspiracy theory. And I don't feel like going back to confirm this, but I don't remember there being any Muslims or Hindus in that scene either, because only Christians are acceptable targets.
I watched that episode not too long ago and that part has a ton of different religions including a Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, and some kind of Native American shaman.
I thought it was weird how every other Species has a religion that their whole planet practices but Humanity has all these different religions, but I suppose that was the point.
I assume it's just lazy writing.
Like how interplanetary sci-fi shows usually have one language per planet, if they bother having anything but insert language of the dub here for the whole universe.
It's typical all faiths are valid crap.
I prefer the seperate countries and religions as opposed to the sanitized, atheistic, space communism of Star Trek
I just started watching it for the first time, and I am really enjoying it so far but there’s definitely a lot of dunking on silly “space racists” , diversity is our strength, being human first or Earth first is seen as a bad thing, we should all buddy up to these violent aliens for some reason, etc. I can see that Mass Effect borrowed a lot from it.
It hasn’t been bad enough to really piss me off yet, Garibaldi and Sheridan actually seem pretty based so I just chalk it up to well meaning 90’s Lolbertarianism rather than any kind of subversive faggotry.
I know Jerry Doyle was a Wall Street guy before B5 and a conservative radio host after B5. So Doyle himself was a lean right guy.
Doyle was also very unpopular on set, with the other cast shit talking him in interviews years after, before he died. The two things are likely connected.
I didn't know that. Thanks
Same thing with Tim Allen, James Caviezel, and Norm McDonald.
I always disliked the Human Civil War stuff. I wasn't even a noticer then but I kinda felt Sheridan was really quick to kill humans and forgive aliens.
B5 is a good example of Enemy/Friend distinction. If you were on the right side everything was forgivable and justifiable but if you had the wrong outlook you were forever in the wrong
Season 5 has the new female captain to replace Sheridan and she immediately comes in to show up Garibaldi, beating him up a couple of times, and then help him get out of the grips of alcoholism later.
She wasn't a total girl boss but it was pretty embarrassing to watch. At least they found a premise to put her in a bikini once.
Oh, and there's the "the only time I ever knew love was with Talia Winters" from Ivanovich before she maybe sort of loves the ranger dude while on her death bed as he sacrifices himself for her when she'd never given him any reason to and 100% friend zoned him. At least it was a hot lesbian "romance" I suppose.
Everything Sheridan did, he did in THREE YEARS as captain of B5.
I remember the Crusade sequel series (soundtrack: dinka-donka-dinka-donka...) they checked in on Lochley, and she had been captain of B5 for... I don't remember... 6 years? Seven?
And literally nothing had changed. Particularly Her. She looked and acted the same way she did on day #1.
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