Majority of Americans now support mass deportation
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Good, now vote that way in EVERYTHING including voting out uniparty Republicans like the one in Brandon Herrera's District.
Yeah, but that's mean and we can't vote for racists
42% of democrats? That implies no more than like 65% of Republicans. The bigger issue is why do less than 99% of so called "conservatives" support mass deportation?
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/25/trump-biden-americans-illegal-immigration-poll
68% but you are completely correct.
Bigger deal IMHO:
The funniest part though is this:
Latinos support mass deportation more than blacks. I struggle understand that but I guess it's just generations and genrations of "do Democrat thing because they say so."
Important to note and specifically refute the lie that "Birthright citizenship" is guaranteed by the 14th amendment.
No sane person looking at the 14th amendment would understand that either the language or the spirit of the 14th amendment is meant to apply to people specifically crawling over the border to birth their spawn on American soil.
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/
It is in fact possible for congresscritters in the 1860s to be incredibly short-sighted my dude.
Using smug Chapo speak doesn't make you right even if you're convinced you are.
"Chapo speak". Have you ever actually analyzed a document before? It's quite clear that the exception is there because of diplomatic immunity, as ambassadors are traditionally the only people who are not subject to the laws of the state in which they reside, which is why ambassadors can be expelled but not prosecuted without having their immunity stripped by their home country.
Shut up, dipshit.
"I'm so fucking inbred, so fucking retarded, and so confident in same dipshit politicians that Mark Twain called idiots, fools, and fleas constantly, that I will resort to simply name-calling you"
As it turns out, being in denial does not make me wrong, it only makes you about as intelligent as the average German who believes that Kant can be correct about anything.
You read "born in" skipped "under the jurisdiction thereof" (probably because you misinterpreted it) and came up with birthright citizenship.
Obviously there is room for some change here, like how illegal immigrants who haven't become citizens themselves would be "subjects of foreign States"
You quite literally quote the same cases that are the basis of why I'm telling you that you are incorrect.
It is quite obvious that they were solely there because diplomatic immunity is such that they are effectively unable to be prosecuted by the home countries laws if they are an ambassador (if you don't want to piss the other country off).
It is, in fact, quite possible that the entire Lincoln and post-Lincoln administration is made up of retards and the denial of this is quite astonishing.
You're not very bright, are you? You actually think they repeated themselves by saying "the phrase 'subject to its jurisdiction' was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States".
Do you know how lists work?
Someone already 110% correctly called it out, but the whole 14th Amendment thing is absolute bullshit propaganda, like with a lot of what these fuckers try to pull. It's amazing how they care so much about specific amendments when it suits them, but completely ignore a bunch of the big ones like 1A, 2A, 4A, 10A (they flipflop on this one big time though) and so on.
"Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is huge, and cannot be applied to illegal invaders. The whole reason it was worded that was, as I recall, was to not provide birthright citizenship. This barred people like the American-born children of foreign diplomats from instantly becoming US citizens. The idea that the same amendment means if a pregnant illegal sneaks across the border and pops out a baby they're Americans is absurd on its face.
The 14th also talks about protecting the rights of specifically American citizens.
TL;DR: They're lying about the 14th Amendment. This is not shocking, and is par for the course.
If you compare it to the percentage that is liberal/conservative, black Democrats are the most conservative and white Democrats the least.
90% of blacks vote Democrat, but 60% oppose common sense. 40% of whites vote Democrat, but 44% oppose common sense.
This fits well with polls showing that white liberals are more liberal on race issues than actual minorities.
That number likely includes latinos who were naturalized and granted citizenship. People who enter through proper channels really resent wetbacks and illegals of every stripe.
Legal immigration had quotas for a reason. Properly functioning legal immigration is tolerable. "It's legal because fed said so" is not that.
Way to be full retard and throw unrelated straw positions around, goon. No, corps aren't people.
Stop with the "neo-cons right wing (they aren't) therefore go full nazi" schtick before you even start with me, dimwit. All leftists deserve the rope.
Quotas, or LIMITATIONS, you dimwit - exist to prevent immigration from doing what we see now, where enough immigrants come in that they form their own miniature regions, states within a state that prevent assimmilation. Quotas also exist to ensure that immigrants never reach a significant percentage of the population by factoring in their pop. growth rates to ensure they're lower than natives. Strictly limited immigration far below what we have now is useful to facilitate trade and allow the host nation to acquire technology from the immigrants.
We do need mass deportation of the useless invaders, my post was explaining why immigration wasn't a huge problem a hundred years ago when we had quotas. Those quotas are commonly decried as "racist" by leftist dimwits in education, when everyone discussing the issue should understand the real reasons they were in place. Because arguing for quota immigration is more effective than absolutist positions that reject logic like yours, and it's a useful tool to destroy the racism fallacious argument leftists like to throw around.
You lack understanding of history, logic and effective politics. The goal is not to convince the dogmatic goon you're arguing with, but to convince the audience. Destroying their argument discredits it and helps to remove its power from society, and awaken the audience to how bullshit it is.
Are you a doomer or do you just not want to actually achieve anything? Many things called racist can be backed by logic. Actually just retreating into "well I guess I'm racist" instead of understanding the functional and logical reasons is losing, and will always lose because it's dimwit behavior. Tearing down their arguments exposes their evil ideology and wins cultural leverage.
You claim I want to conserve "the last ten years" while you don't understand history beyond ten years of time. I think the US federal government has been unsalvageable for a century. Your responses are pure emotion, not actually understanding mine or replying to them. You are the one who is ignorant of history.
Threaten me with a good time why don't you.
I'm looking forward to the mass deportations and once we get the momentum and while I'm dreaming we can also add in some deportations of all the offspring of the invaders, including the ones that have been here for generations. They all have to go. Every last one of them.
Deportation trebuchets LOOSE!
Access to White Civilization is not a right.
we need to invalidate the citizenship of anyone that's come here since 1965, and then deport them.
Finally, someone said it.
So does deporting 20-30 million people on top of the 30-40 million illegals magically fix everything wrong with America? Getting rid of illegals is already difficult but not impossible. Throwing out naturalized citizenship is a step much farther beyond. Do you have any logistics to how that happens without going full authoritarian? Or are you waiting for Civil War 2 to kick off to get your wish when the dust settles?
Unless you're just speaking in hyperbole.
It becomes an easier sell once you expel all the illegals and the proportion of Whites rises as a result. But sure, one step at a time here.
i don't care how it happens, it needs to happen.
we never consented to being flooded with foreigners from god knows where at our expense.
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Serious answer: It would certainly go a long way in repairing the USA. Think about it; 50 million+ less (mostly low quality) people means less crime, lower pollution (ie trash, rats, roaches, car exhaust, power plants not driven as hard, etc), a LOT less traffic, a LOT more housing for those native born, wages would soar, and the cost of just about everything would drop like a rock because of less demand (food, electricity, gasoline, healthcare, you name it).
A DMZ with machine guns would keep them out. Cross the line, become vulture food.
Hate to cite this liberal talking point, but not all of them are border crossers. Some of them just overstay visas.
Ok, so just throw out all foreigners. Simple.
Sounds like we need to charge those who help them in that goal with international human trafficking.
This is a very important point. In California, I see more Chinese and Indians then Mexicans these days.
Most people that overstay visas self-deport.
After 180 days is an automatic 3 year ban, over a year is a 10 year ban and permanent ban if you're caught by immigration. They came over here for tourism, college, work, and overstay but they know the rules and don't want to be banned forever.
So there are a lot of visa overstays, but they're different people every year.
I don't see how any self-respecting American has a choice, even as a "moderate democrat" or whatever the hell normies are pretending to be to feel smart. If you believe in "legal immigration" then you have to undo all the illegal abuse or your beliefs are and always were meaningless.
What's stunning to me is that the number is below 95%. I guess everyone else is okay with ignoring existing laws even if it means destroying the country.
Half of “white people” despise their heritage and believe they deserve to be genocided. They would vote for the castration of white men if it was on the ballot.
Half of white people believe they can get brownie points by playing like they believe that. Let's not pretend that this is anything but self-interest. This is just their way of saying "whites are bad, but I'm one of the good ones, o-o-o-kay?"
There's a good bit of industrial brainwashing in the mix there.
You will never persuade someone "I deserve to be dead because of my color". You might persuade him to make "privilege acknowledgements" in order to increase his social standing though.
I simply don't believe that. The majority almost certainly fall into the other category you describe but I absolutely believe that propaganda can be used to completely shatter people's minds. Were you not paying attention for the last four years? Propaganda is used because it works.
I've been paying attention for ten years. Of course propaganda can be used to shatter people's minds. But first and foremost in people's minds is always their self-interest. You may disagree or find their self-interest repellent, I'm sure you do if they find it in their interests to say that "as a white person, I have many privileges".
But while we both obviously cannot look into people's minds, I find the odds of them doing it because of 'empathy' or any other positive spin you could put on it at zero. Propaganda has persuaded them that this is the way to increase their social standing. So this is what they do.
Not after they've been shattered.
This is so straight forward a premise that I'm baffled by your refusal to grasp it.
In order to support this claim and also refute what you’re trying to refute, you’ll need to explain someone choosing to commit suicide, and do so in a way that doesn’t also open the door for hostile propagandists convincing many people to engage in suicidal behavior.
Never say never, a guy lit himself on fire in protest just this month.
Two people have set themselves on fire recently. One was anti-establishment (both anti-Trump and anti-Biden). One was against the Israeli invasion of Gaza.
Dude, I fucking lived that for most of my teenage years and young adult life, so you can fuck off with that nonsense.
I, a poor but smart kid, was convinced that I shouldn't apply for scholarships because they'd help other people more.... as most of those scholarships went to already well-off students.
He was never the target of the weapons grade propaganda cannons the way you or I were. Not having experienced it he can't fathom how it could be. We should probably avoid asking him about breakfast too.
That is sad but fascinating. Can you give a little bit more explanation and background? How did you come to hold that belief?
Also "white guilt" is an expression of their racism; these white liberals believe Whites are superior and that's why we have to always help the Browns, not hold them accountable, not judge them by merit or the standards of Western civilization.
So their core beliefs don't even need to change, just put them in an environment where they socially benefit from deporting illegals and they'll be the first in line to volunteer.
That's ok it wont matter.
Lotus Eaters did a segment a while back when they went through the previous tory parties manifestos and they've been pledging to lower migration ever since the 2nd world war.
Deportation is too kind to deter them from invading.
Also : Fuck Joe Biden. You don't need more laws and funding to do your fucking job. Stop forbidding Americans from doing their duties to secure their borders and people, and the problem will stop.
It's a fight over gibs. Nothing more, nothing less. It's same reason migrants have been clashing with inner city blacks.
I've lived in a place with a lot of Mexicans and I can promise you that they are generations away from not being pro-tribe. All the legals ones wouldn't dare speak against the illegals because most of their family still is and is unwilling to change that fact. They themselves are only legal thanks to being born here and exploiting loopholes like that.
Most of the country is still completely devoid of illegals and ripe for them to descend upon like locusts.
And the places they have already descended are looking like third world shitholes. They have no problems opening up a septic tank and then just leaving it like that for months. They have no problem turning what was a fine house's front yard into a mud hole with their 12 vehicles parked out front. They bring with them kidnappings and drugs. The demand that the local schools teach in Spanish. They will never integrate. They are INVADERS.
Put em to work in the mines and steel furnaces for a couple of years first. You can recoup your losses and really set up a deterrent for not trying to sneak back in, two birds with one stone.
Go full on Robert A. Heinlein on their asses. 10 years of perfect federal service with no criminal activity and you can earn citizenship.
No. They invaded, they get thrown out if we're being merciful and summarily executed en masse as the default option.
I don't think someone willing to commit treasonous and felonious acts ever deserves to even be offered citizenship.
If we are going full Heinlein then the option for such a privilege should only be offered to upstanding citizens to begin with.
If we are going full heinlein public floggings for criminal behavior are on the table, which I think would do nicely as a deterrent for future waves.
Giving them the benefit of our justice system is still acknowledging their right to being treated like a person or an equal to our citizenship. Which a foreign agent committing felonies on our soil does not deserve.
NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.
Starship troopers' service system is a very different ball game to what we currently have.
I think we should deport the other 58% of Democrats even if they are documented. /s
"A stunning 51% believe that people who have no right to be here, should not be allowed to be here. In other news, a stunning 90% believe that undocumented lovers should be prosecuted for forcing women to have sex."
51% of Americans support deporting illegals? What else are you supposed to do with illegals? Just what do those 49% believe?
Those 49% don't belong in America and they fucking know it.
Too late.
Not surprised at this point, but I doubt any political leaders will take notice
The pity thing is that it is because it threatens their gibs lol. Chicago residents were happy getting money from teh white people. Then got pissy when illegals were taking a large piece of the pie/money.
Of course there are worse people who say there is enough money for both illegals and chicago residents, just get more money from white peepo lol.
Fucking took long enough.
farm it out to good old boys. seize their stuff, auction it off to pay for their ticket out and to pay the finders a fee to escort them to the boat.