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Majority of Americans now support mass deportation (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by Ahaus667 1 year ago by Ahaus667 +91 / -1
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– ernsithe 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/25/trump-biden-americans-illegal-immigration-poll

68% but you are completely correct.

Bigger deal IMHO:

And 30% of Democrats — as well as 46% of Republicans — now say they'd end birthright citizenship, something guaranteed under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

The funniest part though is this:

White - 56%
Latino - 45%
Black - 40%

Latinos support mass deportation more than blacks. I struggle understand that but I guess it's just generations and genrations of "do Democrat thing because they say so."

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– truenationalist 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

Important to note and specifically refute the lie that "Birthright citizenship" is guaranteed by the 14th amendment.

No sane person looking at the 14th amendment would understand that either the language or the spirit of the 14th amendment is meant to apply to people specifically crawling over the border to birth their spawn on American soil.

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– chugga_fan 0 points 1 year ago +6 / -6

Important to note and specifically refute the lie that "Birthright citizenship" is guaranteed by the 14th amendment

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/

It is in fact possible for congresscritters in the 1860s to be incredibly short-sighted my dude.

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– MLGS 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Using smug Chapo speak doesn't make you right even if you're convinced you are.

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– chugga_fan 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

"Chapo speak". Have you ever actually analyzed a document before? It's quite clear that the exception is there because of diplomatic immunity, as ambassadors are traditionally the only people who are not subject to the laws of the state in which they reside, which is why ambassadors can be expelled but not prosecuted without having their immunity stripped by their home country.

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– LauriThorne 4 points 1 year ago +5 / -1

You read "born in" skipped "under the jurisdiction thereof" (probably because you misinterpreted it) and came up with birthright citizenship.

The Slaughter-House Cases

In the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36 (1873)[b]—a civil rights case not dealing specifically with birthright citizenship—a majority of the Supreme Court mentioned in passing that "the phrase 'subject to its jurisdiction' was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States".

Obviously there is room for some change here, like how illegal immigrants who haven't become citizens themselves would be "subjects of foreign States"

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– chugga_fan 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

You quite literally quote the same cases that are the basis of why I'm telling you that you are incorrect.

It is quite obvious that they were solely there because diplomatic immunity is such that they are effectively unable to be prosecuted by the home countries laws if they are an ambassador (if you don't want to piss the other country off).

It is, in fact, quite possible that the entire Lincoln and post-Lincoln administration is made up of retards and the denial of this is quite astonishing.

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– Kienan 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

Someone already 110% correctly called it out, but the whole 14th Amendment thing is absolute bullshit propaganda, like with a lot of what these fuckers try to pull. It's amazing how they care so much about specific amendments when it suits them, but completely ignore a bunch of the big ones like 1A, 2A, 4A, 10A (they flipflop on this one big time though) and so on.

"Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is huge, and cannot be applied to illegal invaders. The whole reason it was worded that was, as I recall, was to not provide birthright citizenship. This barred people like the American-born children of foreign diplomats from instantly becoming US citizens. The idea that the same amendment means if a pregnant illegal sneaks across the border and pops out a baby they're Americans is absurd on its face.

The 14th also talks about protecting the rights of specifically American citizens.

TL;DR: They're lying about the 14th Amendment. This is not shocking, and is par for the course.

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

If you compare it to the percentage that is liberal/conservative, black Democrats are the most conservative and white Democrats the least.

90% of blacks vote Democrat, but 60% oppose common sense. 40% of whites vote Democrat, but 44% oppose common sense.

This fits well with polls showing that white liberals are more liberal on race issues than actual minorities.

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– ElmoHassel 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That number likely includes latinos who were naturalized and granted citizenship. People who enter through proper channels really resent wetbacks and illegals of every stripe.

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