This has been the case for years now, but it still boggles my mind. Gaming is an overwhelmingly male hobby. 90% of the people playing enthusiast level video games are male. Yet the clear majority of protagonists in these products are female.
New resident evil? Female protagonist.
New Ghost of Tsushima? Female protagonist.
New Hollow Knight? Female protagonist.
New Silent Hill? Female protagonist.
New World of Warcraft expansion? Female protagonist.
And that’s just the biggest trailers of the night. Gay ass indie is almost entirely female (or queer coded) characters.
Is there another industry that hates its own core customer base this much?
Any of my MMO buddies over the years who would say shit like “if im gunna look at my character’s ass for 1,000+ hours I want it to be a chicks ass, duh!”, well, they’re sleeping in the bed they’ve made for themselves lol
I’ve heard that line a bunch back in the day.
I heard it a lot but it came off as hollow to me as we all know that pretending to be a chick was the strat to extract gifts from thirsty players.
My experience while hardcore raiding in WoW 15 years ago, across multiple servers and large guilds:
90%+ of players chose characters matching their gender
literally zero women played as male characters
every female character who refused to use a mic ended up being a dude pretending to be a girl
on the contrary, women were eager to confirm their gender because simps immediately helped them grind gear and consumables
dudes who openly played female characters and were not obvious proto-trannies were exceedingly rare and usually very open about manipulating people into giving them free shit
every female in every guild ended up forming intimate online relationships with multiple male guild members, almost always class leads or officers who could advance you (or capable simps who would provide in-game resources)
almost every female player was already in a real-life relationship when she began messing around with dudes in our guild, and more than one of them had real life husbands in the same guild lol
multiple dudes got absolutely crushed when they attempted to move their online relationships into the real world because the girls either lied extensively about their situations or lost all interest in the men when they retired from the game (situational alpha syndrome)
Women in raiding guilds were easily the worst part of my WoW experience. They caused nonstop drama while constantly underperforming.
They were there for the drama and attention, not the game.
In PWI, I played a female character... Because Venomancers were a female-only class. And since they were kinda OP, Veno-man-cers were pretty common. But gender-exclusive classes is pretty rare in even the old MMO days.
This is such a radically different experience to what I had back when I ran with a World vs World guild in Guild Wars 2. I don't recall any of our women causing drama. The closest we got was one grandma leaving her mic on when she went to the bathroom and we all heard her flush the toilet and teased her about it all night.
My main character was a female belf death knight around the same time. The only time I got directly mistaken for a girl (by someone I knew for more than a day) by a desperate dude, I just said "wtf, I'm a guy". I don't think guys choosing female avatars with at least one character was rare, because most functioning people don't overly project and seek representation, relatibility or whatever they call it, from the media they consume. Guys pretending to be girls, however, were rare and notable.
In general tho, I always found it off putting when people are too eager to immerse into an online setting, distinct from deliberately role-playing into fictional settings. Not that far removed psychologically from those who attach too much identity into their professional sportsball team, with a low situational awareness and ability to compartmentalize.
Why I always laughed when female gamers would have sob stories about treatment from male gamers. Like I can remember the rare time a girl entered the comic book store as an early teen and we would roll out the red carpet for her
Same, but I never saw the point since my characters are generally tromping around in armor. 1000 hours with the back of a mail hauberk on my screen? No big deal, especially since my focus is going to be on what's in front of my character, not on the character.
These are presumably the people still wiping to Onyxia 21 years later, too focused on their character’s ass to see the fire they’re standing in
Exactly
Probably mostly from people who modded their games to make their character look naked or exposed.
In my experience it was mostly cope from the guys playing healers lol
How many of them trooned
I had the same thought after writing the comment. To my knowledge, none, but I haven’t exactly kept up with these people
I skipped wow since BFA. The feminist writing and diversity was already in your face.
I can't imagine how it is now.
It's still shit.
Yeah I haven’t played retail since Cata, though admittedly I dipped my toes back in for a couple private servers and a month of classic. To me, it became a directionless zombie with Cata/WoD, just shambling on to collect those sub fees instead of ever aiming in a direction and going with it
Pandaria and Legion were good and for me Legion was a good ending. I didn't need anymore.
Everything since has been treading water and pulling random new big bads out a hat then promptly throwing them in the trash.
I quit with the Lich King. Went back maybe a year later with Cata for a bit. Stayed maybe six months and it wasn’t the same. Haven’t been back to official since. As far as I’m concerned WoW died alongside Arthas.
I've been playing MMOs since Guild Wars 1, all my mains were a white dude with dark hair and a beard. Did I play other characters that looked nothing like me? Sure. But I wanted to play something relatively like me for the majority of the time.
Never goon. Never be a coomer.
I thought the samething.
The Lusty Argonian Maid and its consequences have been have been a disaster for the human race
Objects in motion tend to stay in motion. There is still a couple of years of DEI propaganda in the pipeline in both Hollywood and in gaming. The studios are all facing the choice between cutting their losses and canceling everything (what they should do) and falling for the sunk cost fallacy and shitting them all out on the market to recoup any money they can (what they will do).
They still haven't learned that their reputation is worth something too, which is why they will all make choice 2. They think we will come crawling back as soon as they get around to serving us again, as if their brand isn't now radioactive.
This is all part of the plan. The only reason its being pulled back is cover to push red Jew stuff instead of pure blue jew stuff.
The “objects in motion” concept is an interesting one when applied to social justice movements.
Certainly, there was a time when blacks, for instance, suffered unfair treatment. This resulted in a movement to reduce and eventually eliminate such abuse.
But such movements invariably accrue a tremendous amount of momentum, expressed in jobs, money, power, influence, etc., and none of that shit magically goes away once the movement ostensibly achieves its goal of “equality under the law”. So there’s a very clear motivation and impetus to continue the movement by any means necessary, including rapid mission creep into “equity”.
Which is to say: equality movements, left to fester, inevitably evolve into supremacy or Marxist movements. The highly funded and staffed “body” of a social justice movement will remain “in motion”, progressing to insanity, until someone or something acts in opposition to it. There is no reality in which a paid SJW announces “mission complete” and voluntarily gives up her cushy make-work salary to pursue legitimately productive work.
And as a special bonus problem, the people who do endeavor to push against such runaway movements will be, at the start, disproportionately “deplorable”. It’s not like legitimately malicious racists - and I cringe to even use the word - are going to sit on the sidelines while everyday people begin to wake up to the evil of modern day “civil rights”. The bigots are going to participate. And then leftists will use the fallacy of association to demonize anyone who opposes them. “You’re standing shoulder to shoulder with Nazis, so you’re automatically the bad guy.”
The only responses to this line of attack are “that’s not an argument” and “so what”.
Unfair for us maybe. Lot of 'em should've been shipped back to Africa per Lincoln's original plan.
The downstream effect of equal rights movement has been the utter destruction of the blank slate theory of human development. Blacks and Whites are not the same, genetically or in any other way, and it is past time for the civil rights experiment to be over and done with.
The concept of inertia truly does apply to much more than just physics, and the world makes much more sense when you look at it in that frame. I think we all understand this subconsciously, hence the use of "pendulum" as a common metaphor for the tug-of-war across the aisle, where a physical pendulum is driven by inertia.
Piggybacking on your second point, they hired all those true believers as "consultants" who are convinced now more than ever the way to remove icky incel fascist toxic males is to keep doubling down on #girlboss propaganda (no surprise there, and with predictable results). The counter-momentum is going to take a while to get going.
I think the goal is to normalize feminist media by starving the children of any alternatives. None of these initiatives are going to win over the current or past generations. It’s all a “DLC horse armor” gambit to raise a generation of boys who have never known a marketplace that actively caters to them.
Wouldn't be surprised if it became an active grooming operation. Elsagate type shit. We already know who they are, what their agenda is and how they're going about it. Just that the sick cunts really really like transing kids because it satisfies the demons inside them.
Sadly, I see a lot of normies accepting it.
Don't believe me? Find any random normie online space and look at what they're saying about slop like Predator Killer of Killers, Baldur's Gate 3, Alien Romulus, the new God of War games, or any of the newest corpo-slop that's not entirely rife with overt woke propaganda.
Majority just roll over and accept it.
Current_horror is correct insofar that the generations being raised on this stuff as a form of normalcy will see it as standard-fare. We are aware of what's happening, but unless parents or guardians are actively dissuading the next generation from blindly accepting the feminist/globohomo agitprop, they will fall in line and become drones.
Major studios make money offf of every release no matter how much it makes at the boxoffice. They will let their money laundering projects come out and flop and then move on to the next progressive point.
If you think it’s just gaming you’re in for a rough ride, see while “conservatives” are crying about men in women’s sports, there are now female football “coaches”, “players”, “refs”, and announcers (who can’t even name the plays being run and spend most of the time talking about how the players feel). It’s so brazenly bad they put a d3 female “football player” (who played one play and made zero contact) in an ad with top college players. The NFL had a commercial run trying to sell the nfl to Mexicans through flag football and it was a woman juking out pro players who were all inept. Sports currently hates their fan base so much that they will gleefully pander to people who will never even play or understand the sport better than “look at me I wear certain colors of overpriced clothes!”. Meanwhile those same “fans” are the ones demanding contact sports get neutered into the ground, because the sport doesn’t actually matter to them, wearing certain colors and jumping for attention does.
I could see the NFL having a female kicker one day and watch the hatred the player gets who tackles her when a kick is blocked or something
We’ve already seen it in college football.
Didn’t she run off the field as soon as she kicked? If they want to play so bad I don’t want to hear any complaints when they get steam rolled
Oh, you’ll hear them. Loud and constantly.
No female kicker will ever make a 65 yard field goal, or pin the ball into the endzone for a touchback. They just do not have the size and strength to do it, even though leg strength is one area they come closest to matching male performance. At the level of NFL kickers, the different still matters.
No argument from me but with the way they are pushing women in the NFL I think they would love to tout a female player
Coaches value performance more than looking "stylish", to use a Dirty Harry movie term. Women have never been barred from the NFL, they just have never been good enough to make a team.
Coaches will also bend over backwards for whatever the commission says, and the commission will have zero problem forcing women in, they already have as “coaches”. Money is on female extra point kickers in the next 10 years and the sport becoming even more neutered for to entice female “athletes” to play.
Agreed, I guess the NFL isn’t that crazy
Still no gender diversity in the NHL
There is. There's been multiple female NHL players throughout its history. Every time a female player becomes even almost as good as the worst pro male player, they get scooped up for the press benefit. Which was... twice in it's century-long history.
True.
Look up the league commissioners and a lot of the team owners. Same parade of -bergs and -steins you see anywhere else in the "entertainment" industry. Nigball is just another propaganda outlet of same.
This is another fantastic point. Professional sports absolutely hate their fan bases.
Oh sports are definitely under attack, but they will always enjoy a maximum woke threshold thanks to the inherent meritocracy of athletic competition. No amount of leftist indoctrination will ever completely counteract the fact that female athletes cannot compete directly with men. The NFL can give every support and administrative job in the league to women, but the games themselves will still be unassailable, irrefutable testaments to the physical superiority of men.
Videogames were always about fulfilling male fantasies.
You can have a lot of female protagonists, like Bayonetta, Dead or Alive, Tomb Raider, but they need to appeal to the heterosexual male gamer.
Nowadays it's just preaching for diversity and between the lines you can read the misandry.
Just look at what they did to the Diablo 2 Sorceress and Amazon
*ugly females
in team cherry's defense, Hornet has been a fan favorite since the kickstarter. the fan base is all too eager for her to have her own game.
In Resident evil’s defense, they’ve had female protagonists before.
In silent hill’s defense, female protagonists are common in horror.
There are always plausibly deniable reasons to enact an agenda. That’s how you force change.
I was gonna mention Lara Croft but they turned her into a fugly ogress
TBF, I dont think anyone would care that about them having female characters if they weren't all visually unappealing. Last I checked, guys have no issue playing hot female characters that are written competently.
Yea but I blame the current gaming industry. You point to valid examples of female protagonists but thanks to them pushing it so much you’ll have fans who see a female lead and pass on the game. Even as a kid I remember playing Kings Quest 4 which had a female protagonist, but back then gaming companies understood the market better
If woke media is poison for your mind, then passing on any game with a female or non-white protagonist is a valid survival strategy.
Asian games are an exception, of course. Eastern European games used to be mostly safe, but warhorses and CDPR are now mega pozzed.
Yea, like I’ve mentioned before I rarely watch anything made after 2014 but non western media is an exception
Japanese companies are getting completely corrupted with DEI as well. Capcom and Square Enix are already completely lost.
Unless they've changed Hornet in Silksong she's most definitely not a woke character.
I was a fan of Hollow Knight but I'm not planning on trying out Silksong.I find no reason to do that.
It definitely has fans and it will be a good game but I don't think it will be as great a success as Hollow Knight
The development delays are a red flag but if they keep to the Hollow Knight formula there isn't any reason why it shouldn't be a banger too.
I expect it to be good but I'm just not hyped for lets play a similar game but this time with another character.
So generally not a fan of sequels.
I'm eagerly anticipating silk song. Hornet is awesome.
same
Have you had to purchase a car yet?
How much blame should Sarkesian get for all this? I’ve been told I blame her too much but she is the epitome of the fake geek girl who infiltrates a hobby. Also she strikes me as the type that made fun of nerds and gamers until it became trendy. I did love it when she complained about the Charmed reboot race swapping the characters, and got mad when people called her out for her hypocrisy.
I also remember a gaming survey showing the kinds of games men and women tend to play. Ratios were exactly what you would expect but there is to this day the neverending push of females in majority male audiences.
Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn were meaningless in the grand calculus. They were inflection points in a conflict that was absolutely inevitable. Game journalism and game dev fell prey to the same leftist takeover as academia and corporate HR. Once leftists ascend to the ranks of hiring/firing/promotion, they rapidly transform any organization to become 95%+ leftist. Their complaints about gatekeeping are raw projection; no one gatekeeps harder than leftists.
So Sarkeesian and Quinn might have been the faces of this culture war, but their absence would not have meaningfully changed anything. If not them, it would have been something or someone else. Because ultimately, the ideological divide between game journos/devs and gamers is unsustainable. It’s probably a 40 point gap in terms of political leaning. That’s how far left the game journo/dev industries have become. Sarkeesian’s ideas found purchase because the industry was already saturated with radical feminists. Quinn found total unquestioning loyalty and support for the same reason.
Edit to add: I still contend that Gone Home played a bigger role in triggering gamergate than anything Sarkeesian or Quinn did. The gaming press deliberately misrepresented a walking simulator about lesbians, framing it as a groundbreaking horror game. Gone Home received universal acclaim and strong GOTY support in mainstream media. I still remember buying and playing it on the strong recommendations of basically every available review at the time. The incongruity between those reviews and my experience was an undeniable indicator that something was seriously wrong with game journalism.
I used to love reading gaming magazines til every issues because some diatribe about women in gaming or a game review turned into a lecture about police brutality or BLM
Especially galling since the major contender was Witcher 3 that year
This has been the case for pretty much every expansion since MOP.
WOD: Yrel who takes over from Velen, Maraad, and gets both their loot when they die saving her ass.
Legion: Tyrande, Sylvanas, the moose-cows, Thalyssra, Valeria
BFA: Jaina, the troll princess that enacts a coup against her father resulting in him dying and her becoming the new queen - but it was totally an unforseen consequence guys, how was she to know officially declaring and allying with The Horde would invite The Alliance to then attack the troll capital? 🙄
SL: Tyrande and Sylvanas, again, he troon arbiter, The Winter Queen, Thrakka.
DF: Alexstrasza, Vyranoth, Tyrande again, Melithra, Ysera, Kalecgos [not actually female but close enough with how he's written now], Chromie, again and again and again and again and again. The last chapter of the game literally ends with Alexstrasza, Ysera, Melithra, and Vyranoth all leading a war council against the last bad guys and they talk and talk and talk and talk about what needs done, which the player does ofc, and then finally enter the fight, after the player has done all the heavy lifting. Oh, and Wrathion is also standing there.
So this is unfortunately neither something new, nor something ever done well because the writers are shit, just a different kind of shit than Danuser who was so quietly fired it took someone noticing his LinkedIn page to realise he was gone.
Current expansion was the same. Here's a 1 eyed, 1 armed grrlboss who is better-er than Anduin with The Light and will teach him how to use it again after he was mind raped lol and forced to attack his friends and family while under the control of The Jailer - who was totally one of the biggest baddest big bads ever guys, trust us. Look at all these retcons showing it was really him all along and ignore the fact he's already dead because Blizz is that shit at pacing.
I'd rather have the elven girl in Midnight than another minute of Anduin
Mainstream publishing of books and comics come easily to mind.
The industry is run by shekelsniffers who unironically care little about shekels
The real profit is the feminization of boys and tge erasure of oldschool gamer culture (which used to be masculine and cool) with effeminate niggerfaggotry
Is it bad I haven’t even slightly paid attention? I think I found most of my new games on Steam suggestions anymore. Zero hype for anything upcoming.
What’s funny is the blood elves were put into World Of Warcraft because women wanted someone pretty to play on the Horde side.
There was nothing wrong with a female protagonist back in the day.
Key word is: was.
Now you know why they're doing it, you know the motives and you know exactly why it's being shoved in your face.
These people are fucking pathetic, destroying the thing you love so they can be happy that you're sad.
Just ignore this shit, because you know it's shit. It clearly came from an ass.
Action movies and fantasy content in general. Those are even more male and yet every current property is aimed at women and fags.
That WoW trailer, not only did they beat Liadrin with the ugly stick, but the whole thing was girl bossin' from every direction.
https://youtu.be/O1BMlr8t4q0
Here's an hour long video showing several trailers. I noticed at the open world destructathon game.
As Apparently and Curent Horror have pointed out, some of them are ok. Horror games, and Silksong make sense because of their genre and story. The fact that silksong has a playable demo seems like a miracle.
But, it's all the games. Even when it doesn't make sense, they have a girl boss.
I would say ISPs hate their customers thismuch more than gaming companies do. But still a fair assessment.
I guess I should distinguish between garden-variety antagonism and ideological hatred. Even if we removed every feminist from video game dev tomorrow, we would still have microtransactions and endless remakes and every other classic big business tactic for screwing over the consumer. The more unique thing about gaming is the level of raw cultural abuse stacked on top.
I mean A LOT of these were probably developed BEFORE the USAID/DEI well ran dry so were developed in advance.
NOW it's whether they can ADAPT as a female protagonist doesn't have to be bad depending on how she is written, voice acted and presented.
3 of those have a SLIGHT chance to be redeemed. WoW is fucked since their last one apparently had magic wheelchair...
Don’t misunderstand - silent hill f and resident evil requiem are still using conventionally attractive white/Asian women, and silksong is literally about bug people. All three games are likely to be good or decent. But they all still contribute to an overall trend of almost every video game protagonist being female while the vast majority of players are male (and would choose male avatars).
I mean it depends on the story to me, there's some were simply put, a man wouldn't fit.
Top of my head, Heavenly Sword, a flawed but I enjoyed it game, would not work with a male protagonist. While flipside, you can just look at the latest COD trailer to see 'overly masculine female soldier' DOESN'T work.
This is just like with Blacks in media, the left have so tainted it with forcing it into stories that don't support their presence, it taints their inclusion completely.
Some of these are news to me (admittedly I just have tuned out of a lot of media, though).
I'll be honest, I might actually play that new Resident Evil. I liked that the designer made the apt point that the game would not be scary at all playing as Leon or Chris because they're too masculine and badarse, and he was right about that. They really did a fantastic job with the atmosphere, character design, and gameplay from what little I've seen of it.
I need to check out the Silent Hill trailer to know what you're talking about. As for the others? Hard pass.
Also, your comment is right about how even though some of these may not be strictly fugly lesbian grilboss games, they still contribute to the ecosystem of gynocentric agitprop.
That's the biggest drawback to supporting games like the new Resident Evil or even games like Stellar Blade or whatnot. Because every time gamers support female-led media, it still keeps woke fugly female protags within the mind-share radius. It still gives them an opportunity to breathe, and because of that, there will always be a remnant of the woke agenda latching onto even seemingly non-woke games.
It's a truly wretched situation. But as others pointed out, the sports industry, auto industry, and movie industry all hate their audience just as much. Good luck finding a masculine, big-budget Hollywood movie that isn't subversive feminist propaganda, or some kind of undercutting of traditional masculinity.
And the auto industry hates masculinity as much if not more than the gaming industry; here's a quick exercise: pick a random auto brand and visit their website. See if you can find a picture of a White male and White female together in the vehicle. Majority of the promotional images are mixed-race couples, women, or non-Whites.
Hollow Knight silk song was known female protag since it was first announced. Nothing is unusual about this, anyone who actually played the first one even knows who hornet is. So get that retard accusation out of here. The rest is absolutely correct though. And I'm definitely getting silk song.
The fact that silksong is yet another female-led game in a sea of female-led games is not an accusation.
I give Hollow Knight a pass because I think that using Hornet is a pretty sensible choice for a sequel. Hornet is a popular character and established as being a competent fighter. They’re not grabbing someone out of left field or overturning established lore merely by picking her. Of course, they might still bungle it separately, but the choice itself is not a red flag.
The rest are silly. From what I’ve seen of the WoW trailer, are we sure that one even counts as female?