Yesterday, after work, I went to the store to take just the flu shot, told the person injecting me to give me an extra bandage, which was branded with the logo of the store, put that bandage on in the bathroom, and went home.
Mom asked me where I went, I told her I took the shots, showed her the bandages, she asked if I had my card, I said I did but she never asked for it, and then I went on with my day.
I’m still waiting to see if the shoe drops and she asks to see my card within the next few days, but if that happens, I’ve taken all of you guys’ advice into account, but so far I’m good.
I did it this way mainly because my appointment time, but Mom wasn’t mad or anything that I went without her, last night was just a bit hectic, but hopefully it’s over for now. I’m still looking for places to move, as I definitely don’t wanna deal with this again, but damn, I didn’t know that lower income housing had waiting lists.
You know what was a real redpill for me? Looking into affordable apartments, and being told that my part-time Wal-Mart job making about $16k per year was TOO HIGH.
That's the welfare trap for ya.
Social workers have told me that I need to move into apartments in Orlando because it makes it more convenient for them for my foster kids. I live in a house that has problems, but its way more what I want than what they are demanding.
I just spent 5 months on a waiting list to pay $2000/month for a single bedroom. Let's import in more immigrants!
Holy shit. That’s my monthly mortgage and HOA fee combined.
Right? I have a 3k sq/ft house for less than that.
Wow! My rent went up to 1200 but it’s at least all bills paid. I thought that was a lot
Not just any immigrants, but Gazan refugees, that way the FBI can rope you in to a terrorist attack that those """""rEfUgEeS"""" will be planning against you and the government.
Piggyback: stay aware of anyone that you don't know very well who is more interested than usual in where you are and what you're doing, assessing habits or routine movements.
Take note of anyone who is 'steering' you where you don't want to go. Avoid them if you can and let someone else that you trust know about the situation if you think it is a bit 'off.'
Where? Usa?
Canada
I'm sorry. Canada is the canary in the economic social coalmine. I have been reading on prices and inflation and its so sad. Young Canadians are basically never going to own a home or anything as inflation goes crazy. What is your long term outlook living there?
Basically, my mom owns a house worth $1.5m without a mortgage on it in one of the nicest areas in Canada so my long-term plan is to inherit her house. Realistically, I think she's going to live a long time and well into my retirement so my real plan is to save as much money as I can and then retire in Southeast Asia.
I think Canada is one of the worst countries in the entire world to live in, especially if you're a white man. Stay the fuck away. This country is shit.
Fellow Canuk here, 100% correct.
The problem is that all of our men are working rurally, either farming or resource extraction, so the cities are filled with feminised homunculi and Boomers who have no problem swallowing the "Diversity is our greatest strength" line.
Since cities make up 80% of our population, our politics reflect this.
Watch your mom sells the house to the Chinese when you finally move to se Asia
Ya I think you are in a fairly similar situation to most Canadians and a lot of Americans. Inheritance is the only way to own anything and who knows when they keep raising property taxes etc. I'm sure soon enough they will start reposessing property to give to Indians as well.
This is the future of the US as well
they are going to hit us with massive deflation next. Once everyone has enough debt from trying to pay the high prices on everything the cost of everything will drop, wages will drop, and all the debt will remain. You won't be able to sell anything to raise funds for the debt because prices will be so low.
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You honestly think that the poison is only in the COVID hoaxvax?
Stop taking any and every vax.
Ya all coof did was teach me how ignorant and trusting I was of all these bogus treatments.
Some work, in some cases. But to sit there and follow a vaccine schedule developed by Pfizer and the cdc without doing any research is peak idiocy after coof-19.
Yeah ... anecdotal evidence, but I haven't had a vax in almost 10 years and have had fewer illnesses since then other than a major incidence when I was just weaning off the subscription immune system ... oddly enough about three months before the vaxhoax fearporn started up.
Oh, and a bout of salmonella, but that was my own fault. That was a real shitty week, honestly.
I agree. Sanitation and active natural immunity is the best bet we have. Vaccines have applications if you are able to inoculate against a vicious disease but they don't work well and most diseases we vaccinate against aren't that bad.
There are, and have obviously been, vaccines that worked.
You just don't need to take all of them.
When I was growing up, vaccines were something we gave to children in school a few times and that was it. You might get something extra before travelling to a third-world country. Adults were not routinely vaccinated. Seasonal vaccines seems too much like a pharmaceutical scam.
It's more reasonable for the elderly who are far more likely to die from the flu than anyone else.
If you're weak enough that a flu finishes you off, it was your time anyway.
They're just keeping grandma alive so she can spend years in cancer therapy and getting weird "replacement" surgeries, extract more $$$ from her family.
Indeed, but the question is.... Can you trust them not to be tampered with now. Especially a seasonal pseudo vax like a flu shot.
Only sort of. They were protected with emergency authorization. No such authorization was sent for Flu.
Yep. nods. K.
If they gave vaccines to immigrants we'd stop getting outbreaks of Rubella in California.
Yep. nods. K.
Better option.
Kick the plague-rat scum back to where they came from.
Neutered vaccines have worked for over a century now, the “flu vaccine” is a random guessing game that has never really panned out. However you would have to be moronic to not have a polio, measles or smallpox vaccine, those are the actual vaccines that work and have prevented mass diseases that crippled millions
I used to believe you.
Some people have to learn the hard way.
One downside to consider though is that the more common, older vaccines have had some small modifications over the years, usually for better shelf lives. I haven't looked into it too deeply though, so I'm not sure how much risk the new "recipe"-additives hold.
Otherwise though, I hold most of the same logic as you with regards to the older mainstay of vaccines.
also, if you look into the historical data, those diseases where already on the way out when the vaccines that 'killed them' where introduced. People only believe in vaccines because the timing was good for the marketing. look at all the trouble vaccines are causing in the livestock and poultry industries.
Interesting that a denialist (rather than just an anti/conservative, which I'm very much on-board with) brings up the poultry business, since there, vaccines have been SO proven to work [or... almost work, hence the problem], that NOT using them is a literal death sentence... Because their use has mutated some ailments to be so dangerous and virulent (or, for the more aluminium-hatted amongst us, since its creation, the follow-up bio-alteration of virii to MAKE them so much more dangerous and virulent) that NOT using the "recommended" shots shows a very real destruction rate in Marek's Disease.
There, the over-vaccination of flawed and leaky vaccines led to extremely negative consequences, the likes of which can only be prevented by VERY good isolation, or... Your own use in turn of those flawed and leaky vaccines. A warning we should adhere to, but not a tale of whimsical "oh they don't work". Whether natural concequence or some chicken-monger-dash-mad-scientist's gambit to make some super-killer bioweapon, the flawed vaccine that led to the creation of that bad and lethal form of the disease is also the only thing to really protect against it.
If the flu shot worked, people wouldn't get the flu.
Just sayin...
Yeah, but at least it doesn't have MRNA crap in it.
Poison is poison.
There may be some that might rag on you for using deception than standing up to her but you did well by just maintaining your bodily autonomy and not getting that poison.
You have, as you noted, bought time so yeah get options open and see if you can be less or even not dependant on her at all, that's better to reject her when she holds no cards. Have a low and a high bar of how you want to get away from her, high bar is literally own your own place and low being owning your own camper.
Make it so if she burns that bridge, you're on the other side not stuck on her side forever.
Do what you have to do to survive. The biggest issue is that you can't trust your mother. This will come to a head eventually, prepare for that day.
Tribe and train. Agree with you entirely about staying out of debt and freeing yourself from the consumer culture trap.
The best thing you can do for your future success is never own a bed, or a couch. Only what you can fit into your personal vehicle. having to rent a truck and do a huge moving day thing anytime you want to relocate really limits your options.
Fuck low income housing. Search room for rent ads. You aren't in a rush so you can afford to be picky.
Fair enough. I’m not sure if I’ll be in a rush or not just yet, but I’m considering all my options, especially since I’m not sure the situation’s over just yet. Once I know it is or not, then I’ll know how much time I have to actually do something.
You can find some real gems, but it's all about getting lucky with the timing of the ad.
It doesn't do much good to look if you aren't ready to move out within 30 days, but once you know you're ready, just keep checking local room for rent pages and see what pops up.
Either way best of luck.
You should definitely get out as soon as you can find something.
And let her know exactly why you're leaving.
Do you have a buddy also looking to go out on their own who'd go half in on a two bedroom?
If so then living even one tier above "low income housing" would be preferable. More likely to live among people who work too hard to cause trouble instead of people too bored/lazy to stay out of trouble.
agree. look at both though. with low-income housing your neighbors are going to be loud, annoying losers who like to start shit when they're high or drunk. you could go for roommates but that's a real PITA and you can get very bad people too. rooms for rent is not a bad option at all.
Wait til you find out who you're waiting behind ...
You might have fucked up by lying. I recommend manning up and telling her no, the fallout of her finding out you lied could be way worse.
I also think he fucked up, but for different reasons. He's somewhat betrayed or undermined the value of his position by using deception instead of the position's inherent legitimacy. You don't want to develop habits where you give others openings to dismiss you because you undermined or shortchanged yourself.
This is true, but if it comes up it would be worth mentioning that she threatened to evict OP if he didn't get the jab.
If she had simply asked, with no conditions, lying would be unequivocably cowardly. Things are different when basic needs come into the equation.
I agree, OP can mitigate the impact of lying by bringing this up.
Speaking in terms of a position's inherent legitimacy is all well and good when both parties are standing as approximate equals.
In this case when someone is still living at home...well let's just say I didn't always tell my parents the whole unadulterated truth when I was living under their roof. He can break the news to his mom after he's successfully made a life for himself on his own, and the blow will be significantly lessened by that fact.
The good thing about the average Fauci follower is they do just tend to believe whatever they're told no questions asked.
So with that hopefully you're free from coercion for now.
It is if you’re the right color or nationality
If ur black and illegal yes.
We all learned at one point! OP is still young.
FYI, your Mom is a psycho. Get out before she mounts your taxidermied corpse on the couch.
Also, where's your Dad in all this?
He went out to get a pack of smokes a few years ago.
I’ll be praying for you. Hopefully your mom stops being fearful about it.
It has waiting lists because of mass-immigration.
Also, young men in good health shouldn't be taking covid 'vaccinations'. It's safer to just get infected by covid. Also, a vaccination doesn't prevent the transfer of covid. You're still going to be contagious.
flu shot? why? are you elderly or otherwise at risk? otherwise why not just let your immune system stretch its knuckles for a couple days once a year?
Because this is part of a larger story to avoid getting a covid vax. That's why he asked for a second branded bandage to try and fool his mother.
Ideally, yes, he didn't need either, but if it gets him out of getting a covid vax, it's not a ridiculous play.
It most certainly does. Everything related to housing has waiting lists. Houses are off market within days or weeks nowadays.
When the housing market implodes, things will be different.
flu vaccines are just as bad now: https://www.bing.com/search?q=mrna+in+flu+vaccine
Remember, flu vaccines aren't proven, or stable. it's a different concoction every year and moving forward they are putting the covid crap into the flu vaccines.
For example, if someone says that the flu vaccine was fine in 2018 that wouldn't apply the next year. since the 2019 flu vaccine is something completely different.
Before she was shit canned my last doctor told me to stop taking any vaccines, and the hospital hasn't been able to find/hire any doctors that will go along with their script. This was a huge red flag for me. I'm not going to go get a vaccine because some bureaucrat administrator told me to, from a new fresh out of school nurse, desperate to do anything to keep her new job since she replaced the nurses who left or died without any supervision from any doctors at all.
WTF is it normal in the US to casually go out an vax yourself? Against flu?? Is this a joke I dont get or what?
Yes you can walk in to almost any pharmacy or doctor's office and get the current flu shot, for free if you have health insurance. (and sometimes even if you don't) We are continuously bombarded with radio and TV ads and our bosses at work telling us to do so. It is typical in corporate or academic settings for an annoying coworker to ask first thing in the morning "HEY THERE DID YOU GET YOUR FLU VAXXINE?!" People like the OP will also have family members reminding them until they get it every fucking year.
Where do you live that this is not normal and can I move there?
Poland. Come over, you are welcome, bro. I don't know anyone who would hear all this and consider it anywhere close to "normal" holy shit.
I think we get like 2 vaccines as children, its probably poison and definitely useless. I've had 6 total shots in my whole life because i travelled to Asia and the doctor fucked with my head. I know better now.
Yearly flu shots sound morbidly hilarious and I really feel for you guys:( No vaccine was ever needed for anything. They are all a fucking scam.
Flu shot sucks too. Well, your mom sucks but she's your mom. Time to GTFO.
Good for you for taking the first step. I hope you find the strength to outright refuse to take the next shot, and tell your mother so if the proverbial push ever comes to shove.
Seriously. Move out as your highest priority. Your Mum sounds nuts, Stefan Molyneux would be a good podcast to listen too as the crazy narcissist Mum is his "specialty"
This is easy for me to say, living in a house. But you're a young Man that's not pathetically weak. You don't actually need a house. If you have a phone and laptop and a way to turn your time into money. You can live out of your car, shower at a local gym/YMCA.
You can live in a Yurt even
Being young is the best time to do stupid things like this because you have so little to lose and no responsibilities.
At it's most basic, you need shelter, and a place to shower/clean your clothes. If you can get these to continue working, your living expenses drop dramatically. It's not great, or fun, or sustainable long term. But you can save an awful lot of money and be out of home.
well done
Low income housing makes shortages. Think of it this way, if there's housing that's cheaper than everything else BUT also will kick you out for climbing the ladder and making too much money, but that gap will leave you with less in hand after moving out and dealing with the higher rent, why would you?
You are a fucking eunuch, so as soon as your mommy confronts you, you will cave. Get out of that house and become a man. I wish I knew you irl so I could bully you in to sprouting gonads.
LMAO!
This guy thinks his mom doesn't know when he's lying!
I know, right?
They honestly believe covid is just slightly less than airborne ebola.
This mom believes if her son doesn't get the mRNA then he'll likely die. Majority of liberals polled at 50/50 chance of being hospitalized if unvaccinated. Which is of course complete madness.
The problem isn't so much their morals but their (lack of) information. They're so far divorced from reality that they believe they're doing the moral thing even when they're doing the exact opposite.
Yep. Media vaxx fear trumping love of your child is pretty damn special, but here we are.
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