Really? That low a bar to be considered a 'win' for your side? You gonna next say the fact that i don't bitch slap the waitress for getting my order wrong shows that I'm a proud feminist not that I'm just not an asshole......most of the time at least 90%.
"Nazi are bad" in a movie that actually takes place in WW2. Pure reach. And the only reason "punching Nazis" actually has to become a questionable thing is they call fucking everyone Nazis without any regard for what they're implying.
And the only reason "punching Nazis" actually has to become a questionable thing
Its become so questionable I'm starting to not immediately assume Nazis in general are that bad, because the same people who taught me that I've caught doing the same to people who very much weren't.
I am told it's bad to assume entire nations or ethnic groups of people are bad.
The vast majority of Germans had no influence in the Nazi part and yet people seem to have been willing enough to smear them as Nazis. I guess just like we say all the Russians were communists even though who knows how they actually felt. Everyone had to fight.
I think that young and poor men die fighting old and rich men's wars. Perhaps we could look at it from that angle instead of trying to decide who's casus belli seems more kosher.
It's kind of like how they pretend there's any cultural connection between old plays where men played the female roles too or 1940s USO drag shows and modern Rupaul shit.
so an oppressive incel dictator forces one of his minions to roleplay as the bride in the wedding? the only way this would be woke is if kamek was sexualized or underage.
Nothing. I saw Mario with my wife and kids. There was no woke shit in it other than peach being a natural and not needing to try at the training course.
It’s woke to have shit stories about women who never once have to struggle to achieve something, I guess.
The start of the movie showed Mario in a "realistic" platforming level (i.e. the NYC construction site), and while it's good for a normal human it's nowhere near good enough for the Mushroom Kingdom's wacky rules.
First, let's throw out Oppenheimer, because "Nazi are bad" isn't woke. Let's continue.
A) They're all big name and beloved franchises, who haven't ruined their reputations yet. Of course they're going to do well. It's Mario, Spider-Man, and Barbie. Just like how the first new Star Wars did the best of the new trilogy, they're going to coast on name recognition and nostalgia. How well any of these perform doesn't say much about wokeness one way or the other.
B) Wokeness of any of these are up for discussion. I haven't seen any of these, so can't judge personally, but some people hated Mario, others said it was a fun movie with some wokeness scattered in. Same goes for Spider-Man, I think. The whole 'trans' thing was basically an obnoxious Easter egg, as I understand. Very much woke, but doesn't mean the whole movie is. Barbie is, once again, Barbie. It had massive marketing and coverage, to go along with name recognition.
C) "Get woke, go broke" isn't a universal rule anyway, and can't be judged by a snapshot before wokeness ruins a brand's reputation. Not every single woke thing will tank, it's an overall trend. And, again, it takes time. The first bit of woke will often do alright, because people haven't realized how obnoxious, lazy, and incompetent it is yet. Mario 2, Barbie 2, and Spider-Man Whatever is what we'd have to look at.
Low IQ populations will always be over-represented as consumers of shit entertainment media. And normies will never care, all movies can be all blacks al the time and they still wont notice. Noticing has been bred and brainwashed out of them.
Go woke go broke doesn't affect all industries the same. Book publishing went off the cliff woke and they're doing comparatively fine, it depends who your natural customers are.
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He's half black half puerto rican. Also fictional. Like Barbie.
He also didn't want people calling him black spiderman. He just wanted to be spiderman. Not "black spiderman" he said in his own comic that his race is not the issue. He's just a guy that wants to do what's right. Just like Peter Parker.
this is some major cope. Miles Morales was created (by Bendis) and made into a movie (by Disney) explicitly in order to replace Peter Parker with a non-white character
"Multiverse" isn't really an explanation though. If you want to introduce the concept of a "Multiverse" you could easily have a storyline about a fruit basket Spiderman or a Picasso-cubist Spiderman, our any outlandish concept. But that's not what happened.
Whether you invoke a "Multiverse" or not, the fact remains that the creators of the media decided specifically to craft a story around replacing a White character with a black character. That's not an accident. It's a deliberate and calculated decision.
I'm aware of this. It's a non-sequitur to my point since these characters are "weird & crazy" cameos, not protagonists in comics runs or feature films.
That's certainly an interesting take on Oppenheimer, which hardly mentioned Nazis outside of acknowledging that they were who we were at war with, and that they were defeated before development of the bombs was completed. The movie tended to shy away from the politics and motivations of the Axis powers. If anything, there was more mention of communism.
Barbie and SpiderMan are definitely woke and were made with the intention of being woke, there is no getting around that. We shouldn’t be jumping over hoops to try to pretend that there weren’t woke elements in successful entertainment.
I’m growing to hate the word “woke” because it sounds so retarded. The left has monopolized all of the isms and all we have is weak, childish sounding words. The criticism of the left is valid, but white people have such a Pavlovian response to being called a racist that they instantly shut down and crawl into a corner like a pathetic bitch.
Apathy is the only correct response to being called a racist, or any other -ist.
White tribalism is the only thing that can save the future.
I think the takeaway from the success of these movies is that competence will make money. sure the Mario movie had a woke feminist Peach, Spider-Man was full of woke nonsense and character retcons, and the Barbie movie was indulgently feminist, but all three of those movies had good execution, good acting, coherent stories, and excellent production value. at the end of the day, that's what general audiences want.
I also think that using three huge names that haven't ruined their reputation yet - Mario, Spider-Man, Barbie - as proof that woke sells is an extremely retarded argument on its face. They could have been actual dogshit, and still made money. There's a bit of a lag. If these movies were all woke, it's the sequels that will 'go broke.' The names carry too much momentum at present for them to really flop, until they ruin said name.
Really? That low a bar to be considered a 'win' for your side? You gonna next say the fact that i don't bitch slap the waitress for getting my order wrong shows that I'm a proud feminist not that I'm just not an asshole......most of the time at least 90%.
"Nazi are bad" in a movie that actually takes place in WW2. Pure reach. And the only reason "punching Nazis" actually has to become a questionable thing is they call fucking everyone Nazis without any regard for what they're implying.
Its become so questionable I'm starting to not immediately assume Nazis in general are that bad, because the same people who taught me that I've caught doing the same to people who very much weren't.
And then one day, for no reason...
I am told it's bad to assume entire nations or ethnic groups of people are bad.
The vast majority of Germans had no influence in the Nazi part and yet people seem to have been willing enough to smear them as Nazis. I guess just like we say all the Russians were communists even though who knows how they actually felt. Everyone had to fight.
I think that young and poor men die fighting old and rich men's wars. Perhaps we could look at it from that angle instead of trying to decide who's casus belli seems more kosher.
No, no, no. All right-winger Trumptard GOP goons literally love 1940's literal Nazis! Reeee!
Sad part is, some leftists are so deranged and echo-chambered that they actually think this.
they mostly live in Portland and the Pacific Northwest. not even San Francisco had woketards as bad as Portland had.
In that regard, it is.
We wuz kangz
Drag performance in Mario?
What am I forgetting about that movie?
Kamek dresses up as Peach for a comedy bit where Bowser practices asking her to marry him. Not even close to being drag.
I think he does that in NSMB too
It's kind of like how they pretend there's any cultural connection between old plays where men played the female roles too or 1940s USO drag shows and modern Rupaul shit.
so an oppressive incel dictator forces one of his minions to roleplay as the bride in the wedding? the only way this would be woke is if kamek was sexualized or underage.
knowing the left:
Nothing. I saw Mario with my wife and kids. There was no woke shit in it other than peach being a natural and not needing to try at the training course.
It’s woke to have shit stories about women who never once have to struggle to achieve something, I guess.
Even that I feel like the implication was more that everybody in the mushroom kingdom could do that, and marios problem was that he was Italian.
The start of the movie showed Mario in a "realistic" platforming level (i.e. the NYC construction site), and while it's good for a normal human it's nowhere near good enough for the Mushroom Kingdom's wacky rules.
Or she is much more capable by being a normal shaped human next to his Danny Devito shape. With proper legs to maneuver with.
All of that assuming her "did it first time" line was honesty and not a joke as well.
There's so many ways to rebut this.
First, let's throw out Oppenheimer, because "Nazi are bad" isn't woke. Let's continue.
A) They're all big name and beloved franchises, who haven't ruined their reputations yet. Of course they're going to do well. It's Mario, Spider-Man, and Barbie. Just like how the first new Star Wars did the best of the new trilogy, they're going to coast on name recognition and nostalgia. How well any of these perform doesn't say much about wokeness one way or the other.
B) Wokeness of any of these are up for discussion. I haven't seen any of these, so can't judge personally, but some people hated Mario, others said it was a fun movie with some wokeness scattered in. Same goes for Spider-Man, I think. The whole 'trans' thing was basically an obnoxious Easter egg, as I understand. Very much woke, but doesn't mean the whole movie is. Barbie is, once again, Barbie. It had massive marketing and coverage, to go along with name recognition.
C) "Get woke, go broke" isn't a universal rule anyway, and can't be judged by a snapshot before wokeness ruins a brand's reputation. Not every single woke thing will tank, it's an overall trend. And, again, it takes time. The first bit of woke will often do alright, because people haven't realized how obnoxious, lazy, and incompetent it is yet. Mario 2, Barbie 2, and Spider-Man Whatever is what we'd have to look at.
This one is already Spider-Man Whatever.
Low IQ populations will always be over-represented as consumers of shit entertainment media. And normies will never care, all movies can be all blacks al the time and they still wont notice. Noticing has been bred and brainwashed out of them.
Go woke go broke doesn't affect all industries the same. Book publishing went off the cliff woke and they're doing comparatively fine, it depends who your natural customers are.
Oh no they're real socialists. No socialist genuinely believes in any of the trash they spout thus they are real socialists
communism means everyone needs to give up their resources except for me
Ehhh...the "drag performance" in SMB was obviously meant to be for laughs, as Bowser was forcing his underling into it.
Notice the assumed target audience age demographics for these, aside from Oppenheimer.
Except indiana jones is a box office failure
trans barbie? Lmao
The gynaecologist Barbie is a real life tranny.
now post the rest of the disney films. Oh wait...
"black spiderman" Jesus Christ.
Miles Gonzalo Morales is a fictional character, a superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. He is one of the characters known as Spider-Man, having been created in 2011 by writer Brian Michael Bendis and artist Sara Pichelli, with input by Marvel's then-editor-in-chief Axel Alonso. The character possesses powers similar to those of the original Spider-Man, which were derived from the bite of a spider genetically engineered by Spider-Man's nemesis Norman Osborn in an attempt to duplicate those abilities.
He's half black half puerto rican. Also fictional. Like Barbie.
He also didn't want people calling him black spiderman. He just wanted to be spiderman. Not "black spiderman" he said in his own comic that his race is not the issue. He's just a guy that wants to do what's right. Just like Peter Parker.
this is some major cope. Miles Morales was created (by Bendis) and made into a movie (by Disney) explicitly in order to replace Peter Parker with a non-white character
Even so, at least it’s explained by multiverse. Race swapping without “different universe oh well” is much lazier.
"Multiverse" isn't really an explanation though. If you want to introduce the concept of a "Multiverse" you could easily have a storyline about a fruit basket Spiderman or a Picasso-cubist Spiderman, our any outlandish concept. But that's not what happened.
Whether you invoke a "Multiverse" or not, the fact remains that the creators of the media decided specifically to craft a story around replacing a White character with a black character. That's not an accident. It's a deliberate and calculated decision.
Wait until you learn about Sun-Spider, Charlotte Webber.
Yes, that's the character's name.
I'm aware of this. It's a non-sequitur to my point since these characters are "weird & crazy" cameos, not protagonists in comics runs or feature films.
Uhh ... "Major cope" is in his own comic, in his own words, that he did not want what they did to him?
If you say so.
That's certainly an interesting take on Oppenheimer, which hardly mentioned Nazis outside of acknowledging that they were who we were at war with, and that they were defeated before development of the bombs was completed. The movie tended to shy away from the politics and motivations of the Axis powers. If anything, there was more mention of communism.
-Every woman-led action movie bombs hard
-All the blackity black black shows in the last five years have flopped.
Barbie and SpiderMan are definitely woke and were made with the intention of being woke, there is no getting around that. We shouldn’t be jumping over hoops to try to pretend that there weren’t woke elements in successful entertainment.
I’m growing to hate the word “woke” because it sounds so retarded. The left has monopolized all of the isms and all we have is weak, childish sounding words. The criticism of the left is valid, but white people have such a Pavlovian response to being called a racist that they instantly shut down and crawl into a corner like a pathetic bitch.
Apathy is the only correct response to being called a racist, or any other -ist. White tribalism is the only thing that can save the future.
I think the takeaway from the success of these movies is that competence will make money. sure the Mario movie had a woke feminist Peach, Spider-Man was full of woke nonsense and character retcons, and the Barbie movie was indulgently feminist, but all three of those movies had good execution, good acting, coherent stories, and excellent production value. at the end of the day, that's what general audiences want.
Pretty sure Oppenheimer and the Mario movie have zero woke shit.
SMB wasn't woke at all
And neither is oppenheimer by that logic
I also think that using three huge names that haven't ruined their reputation yet - Mario, Spider-Man, Barbie - as proof that woke sells is an extremely retarded argument on its face. They could have been actual dogshit, and still made money. There's a bit of a lag. If these movies were all woke, it's the sequels that will 'go broke.' The names carry too much momentum at present for them to really flop, until they ruin said name.