They had two of the biggest boy brands in the world and sabotaged them specifically because they tried making them girl brands. Whatever new shit they come up will be the same
“Equity”. It’s like the new female “announcers” thrust into football who can only do player commentary because they have absolutely zero clue how the sport works. That and they forced flamboyant gay guys all over the talk shows who
have zero clue about anything other than player drama and retards like Stephen A Smith, but I repeat myself.
And horsesh*t minorities and prominent Sportscenter hosts pushing the White man bad angle, literally ALLLLL of the time. Jemele hill. I'm looking squarely a you. They fired all of the conservative people, including those black and women. Why the fuck the brought her back is beyond me.
Quite literally, I'd watch The OCHO over anything on regular espn now.
I remember hearing they wanted to do an ESPN women’s network but I guess they decided against it. I have no issues with women’s sports except the WNBA because they guilt trip people for their low ratings
It’s only a website and “digital platform”. They floated the idea of making it a channel back in 2012, then backtracked, floated it again in 2021, then backtracked.
Yeah, it turns out they can’t even get half of females 16-29 to watch female sports (only about a third “express interest” in watching women’s sports) and an entire network would have been an unmitigated disaster.
The existence of social media makes SportsCenter kinda worthless because you don’t have to watch SportsCenter to get highlights anymore, so they went full into the sports talk show stuff
This was the dumbest move though, I’d kill for a sport center that went full numbers, breaking down how amazing plays happened, and the physicality it takes to achieve it. Instead we get player drama because maybe women will watch it…
True but it was fun watching with my dad. Baseball tonight after little league and NFL on Sundays. Now I mainly listen to local podcasts for the Rangers, Stars, and Cowboys. Still it didn’t help when they started getting heavy into race and politics.
ESPN just bought the entire MLB baseball out-of-market digital streaming service for games that was previously owned/ran by the league itself. With the idea that it will increase subs to their newest ESPN+ streaming service.
That's a huge deal when everyone predicted that the brand was dead in the water.
Maybe few actually care about baseball. But the few that do essentially now have to go through ESPN to watch any non-local games or surf the high seas (which boomers suck at).
And I think it really started going downhill with Last Jedi. The fact that nobody said “don’t you think we ought to have Luke be somewhat heroic” speaks volumes
The leftists in Milwaukee just released a new video summarizing what Disney did to the franchise in the wake of its purchase. In short, Disney forcibly turned Star Wars into a story with elements designed for everyone, thereby making it designed for no one.
Yep, Star Wars was always meant for boys. George Lucas always said he based it on the comics and serials he used to love as a kid. He was making it for his younger self.
That doesn’t mean that girls can’t enjoy it, but if you change it fundamentally like they did, the girls who enjoyed what it was before aren’t going to enjoy it anymore either.
The funniest possible way they could ruin Dragon Ball would be by saying something like "well, people hated it when we ignored all the existing rules of the Force and hyperspace in order to let Rey and Holdo have girlboss moments, so let's be really careful about introducing a consistent set of rules and making sure no one gets sudden powerups for plot purposes in our new property."
No, that’s what I mean by calling Dragonball inconsistent. Gohan will stop training, lose basically all his skills, then train for a month because the newest threat showed up and turn out twice as strong as ever. Goku will get beaten up by the latest evil alien or god or whatever and then unlock a super cool new form that’s so powerful even the gods bow down, then that form will be rendered arbitrarily irrelevant by the next enemy who’s even stronger. But luckily, Goku, who’s been training all his life mind you, can train extra hard and reach a pinnacle of power hitherto undreamt of… for the tenth time. Also, Vegeta will spend the arc getting stronger but still not quiiiiite be good enough. The show’s formula is incredibly consistent, but the nature of that formula requires the internal rules of the setting to be extremely loose and for power scales to be largely arbitrary.
Speaking of which, all the other mostly irrelevant Z fighters will reach a new level of power as well so that they’re just strong enough to be sort of within the notice of the next villain. Forever. Roshi can kick ass in the Tournament of Power, as long as it’s cool enough!
All of this will occur alongside dramatic music, cool explosions, and awesome screams and feats of strength, so it’s still fun as long as you don’t care about consistency too much.
If Disney were to try to “fix” that by being consistent and having rules, you’d never see that scene with Krillin and Gohan, because it would fall afoul of some rule about not making the Saiyans too weak, or maybe not letting the humans get too powerful, or something, anything put in to stop exactly the wildly fluctuating power levels you’re pointing out. But then you’d also have to change every other aspect of the show as well. Neither the villains nor the heroes would jump or shrink in power nearly as dramatically or rapidly. The point is that the possibility of that kind fluctuation is core to the show.
We all know Chi-Chi and Bulma were the real heroes all along. Having to put up with an aloof husband Goku who’s always missing or dead and the verbally abusive Vegeta always mansplaining.
A Live action Gargoyles show would be perfect for their goal, after the younger Gen Z learn about it. Of course, Modern Disney would shoot themselves in the foot and make girlboss character the leader, and in gay people to the cast.
Edit: I just remembered in live action Alladin, they made Jasmine the Sultun. Hilarious to think about a woman ruling in the Middle East.
Don't forget, "They foiled this plan, but I had five more going on at the same time. I still win," will be "Ah, they foiled me, but everything is still going according to plan." (except there was literally nothing shown as a positive) [Thrawn got absolutely fucked as a character]
Doesn't this kind of happen gradually, over the course of the show?
Of course, it's less they save him and more they save his family. And it's less he became a good guy and more he gradually becomes a less cold man over time and stops actively antagonizing the gargoyles.
The joys of fatherhood. He loved his wife and son so much, the desire to protect them made him understand that he can't keep making enemies, especially towards the Gargoyles, who have even been valuable allies at times. That said, I can't remember if he went out of his way to end the feud before or during Goliath Chronicles (the last season that killed the series).
Knowing Disney, they would figure they couldn't get funding for more than 1 season (While not being able to figure out why people don't like it: The Acolyte, all those Marvel shows), so they would condense the series. Disney would make that happen by Episode 5 out of 8. And then the series wouldn't get a second season because of "Low Viewer Ratings" (They had injected wokeness into a great show, and created a mid remake. The fans didn't like it, so Disney blamed chuds and incels.)
After the last fifteen years of them, why would anyone, ever, believe them?
It's like Target. You made yourself THE fag store. You only tried to pivot away from that when it bit you in the ass. And even though their now previous CEO tried to halfassedly cater to the non perverts again, too little too late.
The point of boycotting wokist companies isn't reforming individual ones. The point is burying them as an example to anyone else thinking about going woke. The point is deterrence.
The same discussion was when they bought Marvel and Star Wars. They wanted the male viewers.
As long as feminists are running the show we're not going to see good movies.
People tend to ignore the fact that the woke employees are also communists, they don't care about the company, they don't care if it makes a profit or not.
IMO, the point of Doomsday and Secret Wars as movies will be to reboot the MCU like it was used in the comics and Iron Man, Steve Rogers, etc will be recast with younger actors.
Like how the Dems are "actively trying to get them back"? By changing absolutely nothing and making a quarter assed attempt at convincing them they don't despise them?
There is no self awareness. If there was any at all, they would have kicked their woke feminist trash middle / higher managers to the curb. All they are trying to do is resentfully pay lip service to "male audience" then bait and switch ala Feminist Mad Max style aka Femiosa.
I will say one thing, is that one of the things I do wish that Disney did was make the Black Widow movie like 7 years before it actually happened, mostly because what happened in the movie would have been better as post-Winter Soldier, before Age of Ultron, instead of in between Civil War and Infinity War. Albeit a lot of that is because I wish Yelena Belova as a character was introduced sooner.
Edit: Jonathan Majors’ sexual assault allegations leading to them abandoning Kang the Conquerer as a character is also a large part of why post-Endgame the MCU feels kind of aimless
Edit: Jonathan Majors’ sexual assault allegations leading to them abandoning Kang the Conquerer as a character is also a large part of why post-Endgame the MCU feels kind of aimless
Maybe they should stop being such fucktards and raceswapping so many characters comic readers have enjoyed for literally decades.
If they had kept Kang faceless and behind his blue mask in Loki then even with Majors being fired they could have replaced him with literally anyone. Even any voice change could be dismissed as being a result of a modulator or some other reasons.
But no, they had to literally do "Kangz: The Movie", because they focus too much on THE MESSAGE and now it's finally costing them the money countless old school geeks warned was coming.
Even looking beyond the woke shit, Disney has mishandled business terribly. Crazy 150-200+ million dollars budgets aren't going to make money when they're mediocre as hell, a family of 4 can expect to pay close to $50 JUST to see a movie in theaters (and close to $100 if they bother to get snacks and drinks for the kids), and said movie is going to be available to watch at home in like 3-4 months.
Going to the theater is no longer a decently priced pass time. Not when you can get Disney+ for an entire month for like $15 and watch the movie you want at home, for as many times as you want for an entire month.
The amusement parks have also priced out the average American. In the short term, Disney doesn't give a fuck, because they just get rich tourists from around the world to spend their money instead. But that's fewer Americans who will have cherished memories of a magical family vacation, that's fewer manchildren/womenchildren who like to periodically go back to Disneyland once or twice a year, etc. And when that happens, you've lose consumers AND it means that THEIR children are less likely to become Disney consumers.
You got Disney and Pixar and the MCU and Star Wars and all of these franchises have burned down most of their good will. People are no longer showing up JUST to see the next movie because it exists. Those days are gone. The only way to save anything is to start producing high quality products again, but that requires more long-term thinking than a bunch of Hollywood executives can probably manage.
And of course, Variety is seething they did as much as recognize they lost the boys demographic
This is the same Disney whose multibillion-dollar content engines, Marvel and Lucasfilm, have sated men of all ages over almost two decades since the company acquired them.
If you own Star Wars, Indiana Jones, AND the MCU and you can't come up with anything that appeals to 20 year old men, it's not because there's a problem with the franchises.
They had two of the biggest boy brands in the world and sabotaged them specifically because they tried making them girl brands. Whatever new shit they come up will be the same
Three if you count ESPN.
Will never understand how they messed up the quintessential “guy channel”. Growing up my dad and I watched a lot of ESPN
“Equity”. It’s like the new female “announcers” thrust into football who can only do player commentary because they have absolutely zero clue how the sport works. That and they forced flamboyant gay guys all over the talk shows who have zero clue about anything other than player drama and retards like Stephen A Smith, but I repeat myself.
And horsesh*t minorities and prominent Sportscenter hosts pushing the White man bad angle, literally ALLLLL of the time. Jemele hill. I'm looking squarely a you. They fired all of the conservative people, including those black and women. Why the fuck the brought her back is beyond me.
Quite literally, I'd watch The OCHO over anything on regular espn now.
I remember when they blew up Michael Sam to an insane degree. I knew it was the beginning of the end.
There’s a few “commentators” that were mind numbingly dumb and I didn’t realize until later on they were quota fillers for “diversity”.
And they were upset at the backlash because shockingly ppl didn’t care about some 7th round gay dude.
I remember hearing they wanted to do an ESPN women’s network but I guess they decided against it. I have no issues with women’s sports except the WNBA because they guilt trip people for their low ratings
There is already an ESPN W.
It’s only a website and “digital platform”. They floated the idea of making it a channel back in 2012, then backtracked, floated it again in 2021, then backtracked.
Really? Didn’t know
Yeah, it turns out they can’t even get half of females 16-29 to watch female sports (only about a third “express interest” in watching women’s sports) and an entire network would have been an unmitigated disaster.
As a teen I’d watch women’s college volleyball but I can’t say my interest was purely for the sport
The only mainstream women’s sport is tennis, but that’s because tennis was at the forefront of second wave feminism in the 70s.
In my high school and college years, I dated a lot of volleyball and soccer players. Still don't know the rules of either sport.
The existence of social media makes SportsCenter kinda worthless because you don’t have to watch SportsCenter to get highlights anymore, so they went full into the sports talk show stuff
This was the dumbest move though, I’d kill for a sport center that went full numbers, breaking down how amazing plays happened, and the physicality it takes to achieve it. Instead we get player drama because maybe women will watch it…
Instead, you got black guys telling you "wyte man eeevil!" Dude, people want to hear about SPORTS.
I used to watch a number of their shows til it turned into msnbc
People regularly qualm for more in-depth analysis but nobody actually watches it outside of smaller niche podcasts, videos, articles and books.
Because no one has ever made the show. Networks refuse to make shows that don’t fit the lowest common denominator litmus test.
True but it was fun watching with my dad. Baseball tonight after little league and NFL on Sundays. Now I mainly listen to local podcasts for the Rangers, Stars, and Cowboys. Still it didn’t help when they started getting heavy into race and politics.
Truth. But social media covers that too. Stick to what you’re good at.
I watched ESPN & Cartoon Network and nothing in between for a decade. They could’ve had me forever.
Cartoon Network was once a great channel. MeTV Tunes has that spot now
ESPN just bought the entire MLB baseball out-of-market digital streaming service for games that was previously owned/ran by the league itself. With the idea that it will increase subs to their newest ESPN+ streaming service.
That's a huge deal when everyone predicted that the brand was dead in the water.
Maybe few actually care about baseball. But the few that do essentially now have to go through ESPN to watch any non-local games or surf the high seas (which boomers suck at).
Marvel was an unprecedented cash cow for ten years. They sabotaged that one after they had already seen how to make money with it.
And I think it really started going downhill with Last Jedi. The fact that nobody said “don’t you think we ought to have Luke be somewhat heroic” speaks volumes
>buy Stars Wars IP
>major tentpole franchise for boys
>turn it into a series about girlbosses and female melodrama
You had your chance.
The leftists in Milwaukee just released a new video summarizing what Disney did to the franchise in the wake of its purchase. In short, Disney forcibly turned Star Wars into a story with elements designed for everyone, thereby making it designed for no one.
As is the case with almost all “alternative critics” on YouTube, they still can’t call the spade a spade.
Yep, Star Wars was always meant for boys. George Lucas always said he based it on the comics and serials he used to love as a kid. He was making it for his younger self.
That doesn’t mean that girls can’t enjoy it, but if you change it fundamentally like they did, the girls who enjoyed what it was before aren’t going to enjoy it anymore either.
They'll gaslight you saying that Star Wars was always for everyone, but the here's proof that Star Wars was always for men & boys...
https://flashbak.com/waiting-in-line-to-see-star-wars-1977-2000-26505/
And marvel comics hired feminist writers who literally wrote stories of women sitting around tables discussing their feelings
What, so they're going to buy another male-centric franchise (are there any left?) and replace everyone in it with lame and gay chicks?
Breaking: Disney buys Dragon Ball franchise
They couldn't possibly make a worse movie than the one we all pretend never existed... one of the worst movies ever made... could they?
Somehow I bet they would try.
The funniest possible way they could ruin Dragon Ball would be by saying something like "well, people hated it when we ignored all the existing rules of the Force and hyperspace in order to let Rey and Holdo have girlboss moments, so let's be really careful about introducing a consistent set of rules and making sure no one gets sudden powerups for plot purposes in our new property."
Tbf that's what Super did when it had Krillen beat Gohan of all people in a sparring match.
The whole thing came down to "training >>> anything else".
No, that’s what I mean by calling Dragonball inconsistent. Gohan will stop training, lose basically all his skills, then train for a month because the newest threat showed up and turn out twice as strong as ever. Goku will get beaten up by the latest evil alien or god or whatever and then unlock a super cool new form that’s so powerful even the gods bow down, then that form will be rendered arbitrarily irrelevant by the next enemy who’s even stronger. But luckily, Goku, who’s been training all his life mind you, can train extra hard and reach a pinnacle of power hitherto undreamt of… for the tenth time. Also, Vegeta will spend the arc getting stronger but still not quiiiiite be good enough. The show’s formula is incredibly consistent, but the nature of that formula requires the internal rules of the setting to be extremely loose and for power scales to be largely arbitrary.
Speaking of which, all the other mostly irrelevant Z fighters will reach a new level of power as well so that they’re just strong enough to be sort of within the notice of the next villain. Forever. Roshi can kick ass in the Tournament of Power, as long as it’s cool enough!
All of this will occur alongside dramatic music, cool explosions, and awesome screams and feats of strength, so it’s still fun as long as you don’t care about consistency too much.
If Disney were to try to “fix” that by being consistent and having rules, you’d never see that scene with Krillin and Gohan, because it would fall afoul of some rule about not making the Saiyans too weak, or maybe not letting the humans get too powerful, or something, anything put in to stop exactly the wildly fluctuating power levels you’re pointing out. But then you’d also have to change every other aspect of the show as well. Neither the villains nor the heroes would jump or shrink in power nearly as dramatically or rapidly. The point is that the possibility of that kind fluctuation is core to the show.
We all know Chi-Chi and Bulma were the real heroes all along. Having to put up with an aloof husband Goku who’s always missing or dead and the verbally abusive Vegeta always mansplaining.
Android 18 gets raceswapped into a fat black woman.
Android Section 8
"Sheeeeit, you aight white boy!" *kisses Krillin*
Mr. Popo sheds a tear
So she gets swapped with Mr Popo? 🤔
They have plenty to get it back, but won't. Aladdin had a great TV show. Gargoyles. Captain Powers. They had Power Rangers at one point.
A Live action Gargoyles show would be perfect for their goal, after the younger Gen Z learn about it. Of course, Modern Disney would shoot themselves in the foot and make girlboss character the leader, and in gay people to the cast.
Edit: I just remembered in live action Alladin, they made Jasmine the Sultun. Hilarious to think about a woman ruling in the Middle East.
Demona becomes the misunderstood main character.
David Xanatos gets saved by them after he loses a fight, and becomes a good guy afterwards.
Don't forget, "They foiled this plan, but I had five more going on at the same time. I still win," will be "Ah, they foiled me, but everything is still going according to plan." (except there was literally nothing shown as a positive) [Thrawn got absolutely fucked as a character]
William Riker tells you you're wrong
It doesn't take much to make a villain seem like a winner despite losing to the heroes.
A. They had a backup plan that the heroes didn't know about.
B. The plan the heroes foiled was merely a diversion from the real scheme.
C. The heroes did stop the scheme, but ceded something else the villain actually/also wanted in the process.
Just have the bad guy gain ground and he seems like a major threat. The fact that modern writers can't understand this shows how... basic they are.
Doesn't this kind of happen gradually, over the course of the show?
Of course, it's less they save him and more they save his family. And it's less he became a good guy and more he gradually becomes a less cold man over time and stops actively antagonizing the gargoyles.
So I guess it's not like that at all, really.
Basically.
The joys of fatherhood. He loved his wife and son so much, the desire to protect them made him understand that he can't keep making enemies, especially towards the Gargoyles, who have even been valuable allies at times. That said, I can't remember if he went out of his way to end the feud before or during Goliath Chronicles (the last season that killed the series).
Knowing Disney, they would figure they couldn't get funding for more than 1 season (While not being able to figure out why people don't like it: The Acolyte, all those Marvel shows), so they would condense the series. Disney would make that happen by Episode 5 out of 8. And then the series wouldn't get a second season because of "Low Viewer Ratings" (They had injected wokeness into a great show, and created a mid remake. The fans didn't like it, so Disney blamed chuds and incels.)
He really does that after they protect his son from an ancient God.
What I had in mind for the remake would be that he's falling off a roof, and they pull him up. And he suddenly realizes that they're good guys.
Edit: Jeez, Disney needs to hirer me already. I think I've got what it takes to be a Disney writer.
That's how they'd ruin it, by turning Elisa Maza into an overbearing harpy. And probably casting an ugly fat woman to boot.
The biggest flaw with that plan would be that the superior original version still exists.
Yeah. Be hilarious to see the original one consistently being higher ranked though.
Yep. That’s all she wanted, and having Aladdin as a side piece was…nice I guess? But GIRLBOSS!
Exactly, they don't need new IPs, they need to get their shit together and stop turning their IPs for fags
After the last fifteen years of them, why would anyone, ever, believe them?
It's like Target. You made yourself THE fag store. You only tried to pivot away from that when it bit you in the ass. And even though their now previous CEO tried to halfassedly cater to the non perverts again, too little too late.
The point of boycotting wokist companies isn't reforming individual ones. The point is burying them as an example to anyone else thinking about going woke. The point is deterrence.
Crazy it took them this long. They bought two brands brands and ran away the fanbase. Same with comics
The same discussion was when they bought Marvel and Star Wars. They wanted the male viewers.
As long as feminists are running the show we're not going to see good movies.
People tend to ignore the fact that the woke employees are also communists, they don't care about the company, they don't care if it makes a profit or not.
Every leftist employee is essentially a sleeper agent waiting to be activated for the revolution.
And so many modern writers are young activists fresh out of college who see everything as racism and oppression
IMO, the point of Doomsday and Secret Wars as movies will be to reboot the MCU like it was used in the comics and Iron Man, Steve Rogers, etc will be recast with younger actors.
“Younger actors”
🦍 🦧 👨🏿🦲🧕🏿🌚
Like how the Dems are "actively trying to get them back"? By changing absolutely nothing and making a quarter assed attempt at convincing them they don't despise them?
Get fucked, Mouse.
Might want to fire the Karens destroying all the male franchises you've gobbled up
There is no self awareness. If there was any at all, they would have kicked their woke feminist trash middle / higher managers to the curb. All they are trying to do is resentfully pay lip service to "male audience" then bait and switch ala Feminist Mad Max style aka Femiosa.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/t2VoY8E9lP
Found it on this thread but watching the post-Endgame movies, even most of the post-Endgame shows, I can see exactly why.
I will say one thing, is that one of the things I do wish that Disney did was make the Black Widow movie like 7 years before it actually happened, mostly because what happened in the movie would have been better as post-Winter Soldier, before Age of Ultron, instead of in between Civil War and Infinity War. Albeit a lot of that is because I wish Yelena Belova as a character was introduced sooner.
Edit: Jonathan Majors’ sexual assault allegations leading to them abandoning Kang the Conquerer as a character is also a large part of why post-Endgame the MCU feels kind of aimless
Maybe they should stop being such fucktards and raceswapping so many characters comic readers have enjoyed for literally decades.
If they had kept Kang faceless and behind his blue mask in Loki then even with Majors being fired they could have replaced him with literally anyone. Even any voice change could be dismissed as being a result of a modulator or some other reasons.
But no, they had to literally do "Kangz: The Movie", because they focus too much on THE MESSAGE and now it's finally costing them the money countless old school geeks warned was coming.
Burn in hubris, Disney.
Even looking beyond the woke shit, Disney has mishandled business terribly. Crazy 150-200+ million dollars budgets aren't going to make money when they're mediocre as hell, a family of 4 can expect to pay close to $50 JUST to see a movie in theaters (and close to $100 if they bother to get snacks and drinks for the kids), and said movie is going to be available to watch at home in like 3-4 months.
Going to the theater is no longer a decently priced pass time. Not when you can get Disney+ for an entire month for like $15 and watch the movie you want at home, for as many times as you want for an entire month.
The amusement parks have also priced out the average American. In the short term, Disney doesn't give a fuck, because they just get rich tourists from around the world to spend their money instead. But that's fewer Americans who will have cherished memories of a magical family vacation, that's fewer manchildren/womenchildren who like to periodically go back to Disneyland once or twice a year, etc. And when that happens, you've lose consumers AND it means that THEIR children are less likely to become Disney consumers.
You got Disney and Pixar and the MCU and Star Wars and all of these franchises have burned down most of their good will. People are no longer showing up JUST to see the next movie because it exists. Those days are gone. The only way to save anything is to start producing high quality products again, but that requires more long-term thinking than a bunch of Hollywood executives can probably manage.
If Godzilla Minus One cost less than $20 million, there's no reason for an MCU movie to cost $300 million.
And of course, Variety is seething they did as much as recognize they lost the boys demographic
If you own Star Wars, Indiana Jones, AND the MCU and you can't come up with anything that appeals to 20 year old men, it's not because there's a problem with the franchises.
Actively trying for the gay ones first.
Oh.. like how the democrats send a fat latina bitch to try to woo over frat boys to the democrat party??? Lol.
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/disney-marvel-lucasfilm-gen-z-1236494681/
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