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So let me get this straight... Sony has been allowed to butcher and censor games for the last decade with impunity and people have just accepted it. But making people sign in to a PSN account for a PC game is going too far.
posted 2 years ago by CaptainDudeguy 2 years ago by CaptainDudeguy +48 / -0

Make it make sense.

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– BandageBandolier 66 points 2 years ago +66 / -0

Many Steam players play on PC exclusively and avoid console ports like the plague, they haven't been exposed to Sony's bullshit until it came to them.

Normies only notice what's in their own backyard, what's new?

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– deleted 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0
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– Adamrises 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Asmon gold is a great barometer for how weak their principles and actual use is. Because, just like most of those normies, he will flipflop the next morning on anything he says or does if one of his friends tells him otherwise or his chat upsets him so he has to be full contrarian against them.

Literally at the same time as he was "discovering" the SBI shit, he was also defending Hasan the turkroach and laughing at people who said they didn't make what he considered a normal wage (1000$ a day is what he thinks lower end jobs make).

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– -Fender- 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

1000 a day is about 250k a year. That is nowhere near an average salary.

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– Adamrises 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Well according to Asmongold it is, as stated by him emphatically during his "streaming is harder than most jobs because you get burnt out socializing" rant.

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– SarcasticRidley 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

streaming is harder than most jobs because you get burnt out socializing

"Being a mom is the hardest job in the world. Imagine having to bend over inserting a dvd into a dvd player to entertain your child while the washing machine and the dishwasher do all the work for you. So much harder than those coal miners getting black lung" - Bill Burr when he was good

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– -Fender- 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I know practically nothing about him, but he's the one who chose that job. Being a streamer is to be an entertainer. To be a dancing monkey for the camera. And from what I know, he's more renowned for playing videogames than for poignant social commentary, so he doesn't even really need to do research or write scripts before he turns on the camera. He can just play videogames and talk about what's happening on screen, or about the gameplay.

His job is far easier than most, even if I personally am probably not suited for it.

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– Adamrises 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Since a lot of my friends are/were WoW players I am forced to pick up information about him through them (as well as his big moments through bird forums).

The point, as I understand it, is that because you need to be in "streamer mode" the entire time, you get burnt out about having a personality and energy and all that goes into that acting gig. And after you turn off the camera, you don't have the energy level to go out and be an extrovert and socialize because you do that for work.

Which, is a valid point if made correctly. But Hasan, and then the Chipmunk, came across more like ultra rich losers who think their job is harder than a cashier (who has the same problem) because...it just is okay?! Normal people only making like 1000$ a day just don't understand how hard it is after works over when you have no energy! Which turns the valid point into rich people whining.

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– SarcasticRidley 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Literally 10x my salary.

Amazing how out of touch some people are.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Why the fuck is it "normie" to not pay attention to console peasants?

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– BandageBandolier 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It was a statement meant to be taken simply as spoken. Normies don't look at the big picture, even the pc master race ones.

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– covok48 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Correct. One launcher. And PSN has been hacked to death over the last decade & a half.

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– CatoTheElder 30 points 2 years ago +30 / -0

Mutilating a game means you just don't buy it. Taking away a game that you already bought is jewish shit.

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– Happygo 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Prob won't refund either

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– CatoTheElder 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They waited until all the month 1 buyers had passed the 2 month refund period. Steam won't refund that.

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– nuggetpatrol 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

I don't have a PS3 or a PS4 or you guessed it, a PS5. Games being censored is always wrong.

Games having an opt out to have a PSN then reversing course and saying it's temporarily optional and now required is some new level of bullshit.

You cant make an appeal to triviality whenever you're the one who initiated the trivial action.

I'd be just as mad if you put up a fence with a gate between me and my car one night and then one day take the gate away and expect me to have to hop a fence every time I plan on using my car. I'm gonna bitch about the fence.

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– CaptainDudeguy [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Oh it definitely sucks, but I mean, the bastardization they've done to games is WAY worse than requiring you to type in an account login.

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– nuggetpatrol 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

Right, no argument here.

But to your point, you'd likely have to log into a PSN account on your playstation in order to play those censored games. With the exception of Stellar Blade. I think that's single player. But it might have online elements like leaderboards or something.

Edit: Forgot to mention that since 2011, Sony has been hacked multiple times. They are not someone I want handling my info if they can be compromised multiple times and cannot be trusted with it.

  • The April 2011 hack where 77 million PSN user info was obtained.

  • May 2011 22 million PSN user info is found for sale on the dark web. Including name, address, credit card, PSN account name and password.

  • November 2014 Hackers steal 100 Terrabytes of data from Sony Pictures

  • August 2017 Hackers Obtain Sony Social Media accounts

  • September 2023 Sony network hacked again.

  • October 2023 Sony notifies it's employees of the data breach.

No thanks. The company cannot be trusted with anyone's info.

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– ghostfox1_ 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

But that requires people to have a playstation to notice the censorship. I don't, so I don't keep up with sony's bullshit. If I played helldivers (which I don't, for other reasons) this would be the first thing to impact me from sony.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

the fact is normies don't pay attention to that. normie's sea games when they pop up in the store, think "neat I'll play that", and play the game. they do not invest time into the behind the scenes efforts, and are often completely oblivious to censorship and bad localization.

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– covok48 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I wouldn’t have bought the game if the launcher was a requirement to begin with.

You console peasants are so used to being fucked up the ass that you’re actually mad as the people resisting.

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– SoctaticMethod1 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

Two key points to this that sort of make sense of this:

  1. It was limited to PlayStation only gamers suffering

  2. Giving Sony your information because their security is shit, the biggest example is when they were down for MONTHS after a security breach.

This may just be the straw that broke the camel's back as seems to be the pattern this year as I'd love a similar story that is happening with Square Enix or media companies like WB where they are going to be forced to do massive cuts hopefully purging all of the people that thought these policies were a good idea.

It also helps this is getting a national scale backlash given Helldivers 2 was massively popular in places like China where you CAN'T get PSN so they've effectively shut out all of China.

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– Kaarous 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

The first point is more important than it seems.

It's the same principle as why I never cared that people got ripped off paying for updated rosters in sports games when nothing else changed every single year.

Clearly, they're stupid. I don't care if they let themselves get taken advantage of.

I care if their stupidity starts impacting me.

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– alucard13mmfmj 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yep. I dont care about trannies until their tranny shit and androgynous uglie chars start appearing in games.

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– brimshae 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

You can't fix stupid.

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– brimshae 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

the biggest example is when they were down for MONTHS after a security breach.

Which breach? There have been several.

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– SoctaticMethod1 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'd say the 2011 one as that REALLY damaged their reputation till the short attention span kicked in.

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– AccountWasFree 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

That too is wrong. I agree that it's not exactly the best line to draw, but drawing any line at this stage is better than nothing. And no, taking the scraps of this shitshow isn't going to lead to any sort of "winning", but I'd still prefer it to unabashed and continual losing over and over and over.

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– TeeBP 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I wonder how many people complaining are actually ones who live in countries that can't have psn accounts

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– Adamrises 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

Their community manager, after days of snarky "I thought you were leaving bro bye!!" comments, finally did a full 180 after having that pointed out to him.

So now its full paragraphs of "we are realizing it might be a bad idea and all the devs also hate it too!" once they were told that's a thing. So its full damage control using that hill as a scapegoat.

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– SR388-SAX 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

"I thought you were leaving bro bye!!"

I don't understand how these people aren't fired immediately. The correct response is, "we're sad to lose you as a customer and hope that you'll be back sometime in the future." But community managers in this industry mostly like to dunk on customers and exhibit the toxic behavior that that they accuse everybody else of. (Yes, rule #2: SJWs always project.)

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– Adamrises 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Its even worse because since dealing with that in a positive and productive manner is literally the entire job of a community manager.

Wendy's Twitter has unironically ruined our entire society.

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– Assassin47 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

At this point you have to assume their opinions do in fact represent those of the company/devs.

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– alucard13mmfmj 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

If it was overwatch, theyd be reported and banned rofl.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– brimshae 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

At this point I think community managers should be treated the same as journalists, politicians, pedophiles (that aren't also politicians), and other forms of humanoid filth.

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– Adamrises 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I think worse, because unlike those, which are either jobs or paraphillic fetishes, a CM is almost always a janny who does it for free that gets an official hat and still does it for hotpocket level pay.

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– Assassin47 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

hotpocket level pay

*chicken tendies

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– covok48 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Devs have been snarky assholes about everything, it went from edgelord hilarity to “oh they aren’t joking” really fast.

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– Adamrises 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Its because they are adding it to a game people already bought and fell in love with. Nobody really cared about Spiderman having the option to do it, and nobody said a word when Ghost of Tsushima revealed it would be required either.

The reason this one erupted is because its literally a case of "steals your game" away after they've already taken your money and you've fallen in love with it.

Also, despite how you may feel, only a small niche of us care about the censorship and that's a hugely political issue. This is a major mainstream title with an a-political controversy.

You can't call people incels and coomers over this very well, so the usual suspects don't have the ability to run articles and damage control to make it blow over.

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– ThreeLights 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Honestly, inconvenience is the only way normies wake up. Stealing and selling data has no real world inconvenience. Rainbow mafia can be safely ignored until it affects their kids.

Sheep play dead if they hear wolves, but they’ll headbutt a fence gate if it’s not opened fast enough.

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– Assassin47 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Sheep play dead if they hear wolves, but they’ll headbutt a fence gate if it’s not opened fast enough.

Perfect analogy.

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– Norenia 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Who has "accepted the censorship?" I didn't. I literally stopped buying PS4 games not long after the California move, and made myself a gaming PC, never even touched a PS5.

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– alucard13mmfmj 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Mostly fagget white soyboys trying to act virtuous and defend the fee fees of hambeasts.

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– BetterNameUnfound 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Look up "the straw that broke the camel's back"

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– Eros789 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

You're not very smart are you?

Like why do you think I am a PC gamer? Do you think avoiding Sony plays a factor?

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– FrozeInFear 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

It may be that they haven't been concerned about the quality of content. Forcing people to sign up for what amounts to more advertising just to access content, without any real added benefit is going to rub people the wrong way.

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– covok48 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

And get their information hacked.

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– ModsAreAIDS 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It makes sense since the idiots who don't care about the censorship still buy playstations. The gamers who do care fled to pc. And now Sony is chasing them down over there.

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– covok48 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is the correct answer. And console peasants are surprised PC dont just lie down and accept it.

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– realerfunction 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

you're a bit dim, aren't you?

there's no reason someone using steam should need to make a playstation account.

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– ShekelJa 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The first example you mentioned applies to PlayStation faggots.

The second example applies to PC gaming users.

Different demographics, clearly different responses.

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– ernsithe 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Make it make sense.

Robberies in the hood vs. the hood bringing robberies to the suburbs.

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– covok48 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Excellent analogy.

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– misogynegro 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Why are you indignantly huffing and puffing like a little bitch instead of welcoming the tides shifting in our direction?

Nevermind that as many others have pointed out, PC gamers had zero reason to give a shit about Sony pulling their usual bullshit until Sony finally crossed the line into bait-and-switching PC gamers into signing up for PSN on pain of essentially having their money stolen from them.

I don't understand anyone who's part of a really niche domain in the culture war acting like the whole world is obligated to care about our autistic faggotry, and then pushing away outsiders who bother to take an interest. You're acting like SJWs who piss and moan that no one outsides their circles even knows wtf they're talking about half the time. As someone who's passionate about this subject, I'll hit back hard against anyone who makes an appeal to triviality, welcome anyone who takes a sincere interest in the subject, and accept that most people don't give a shit and don't have to.

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– covok48 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Console players are retarded. That’s why. They were so used to being fucked in the ass that they’re angry PC players aren’t agreeing to it.

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– misogynegro 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Cuckolds are the best consoomers, they won't fight back no matter how bad of a deal is imposed on them.

Wifey wants to sleep with a bunch of men while I support her?

Lemme cope by "bragging" that my wifey is just that desirable.

Soyny wants to empty my wallet with underhanded bullshit?

I'll just cope by saying it's worth it for the PS5 experience.

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– You_Are_Based 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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– OmegaBird 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Brah. I've hated soyny since the ps3 the fuck you talking about.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

it's the straw that broke the camel's back.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Everyone's got a breaking point, it's just at a different place per person.

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– covok48 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You are as retarded as the console peasants in c/gaming.

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– dzonatan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

PC gamers are not the same as Console gamers.

Console gamers suffer what they must. PC gamers do what they want.

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– TomSeeSaw 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hell Dives the Sony way.

Hellarious.

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