I think it's the bait before the switch. It's Rockstar. Even if their marketing department clearly learned not to Bud Light their own product, I doubt it'll taste any better.
The trailer already depicts the female character as the leader (kicking the convenience store's door was absolute cringe), while it relegates the male character as the sidekick. Heck, we don't even know if he is going to be playable, except for some token missions.
I get a similar feeling as well, especially since they mention that there are missions where you're playing as a single mom taking care of a kid. From the trailer it doesn't look like when she's with her boyfriend there is a kid around at any point -- so you're probably right about that.
Wouldn't doubt it if he's also portrayed as betraying the "stronk wahmen" and he ends up dying; she gets bitter and ends up with the bulldyke saviour.
Its a game about committing crimes, where the most famous activity is to literally chimp out and commit random acts of violence for no reason but shits and giggles until you get shot.
I can think of no game better suited to being full of blacks.
No it has to be Austin. A few years ago I saw a large Mexican flag (at least eight feet high) flying at an intersection near the interstate across from a gas station with a big Mexican open air produce market in the parking lot.
The flag is no longer there but it still looks like I'm driving through another country every time I'm in that part of town. And I wouldn't want to be there at night.
I was just pointing out how it's realistic because that's how Grand Theft Auto has always been. It's always been a mirror to specific decades of American culture magnified.
Grand Theft Auto V is a perfect time capsule of American/California culture circe early '10s just as IV was a perfect encapsulation of '00s culture.
Is it appealing to me personally? Not really but I do gotta hand it to them for capturing '20s culture.
Well that's a slight relief. I watched that trailer twice to be sure and was asking myself if the percentage of black NPCs was realism or a stupidly extreme diversity quota.
Doesn't mean the game isn't going to be screwed by blue haired liberal women anyway, but at least this first indicator doesn't guarantee it.
Normally I'd agree but I was in Miami less than 2 weeks ago and it was exactly what this trailer showed lol. Didn't even have to see the Everglades to know it was Florida right away.
Very few white people outside of UoM campus
They didn't make those billions selling the game [cough] shark cards [cough cough]. They could go free to play and make back their investment in the 1st month.
If the game is sufficiently large in scope, I think you could justify that. I'd sooner condemn them for their online monetisation than for making massive once-a-decade products.
They said the same about when 60$ became the norm. You know what happened? Every game just felt they deserved that full 60$ no matter the scope or worth, and the industry treats it as the default to go up or down from.
Nobody will look at GTA6 as a super exception that totally deserves it, they will just see that a game did it and assume their product is worth that too because the precedent was set.
60 bucks has been the norm since N64. Games have gotten nothing but cheaper given inflation.
This argument reminds me of when the Australians didn't realize that when games are sold for 60 USD it's like 90 ASD because they're currency is worthless and had a huge hissy fit over GTA or CoD that just kind of went away.
No, the norm in the 6th generation and a bit before was 50$. It became 60$ shortly after the release of the 360. During which the argument was that "games have come so much further and deserve the money!" because of the big push for hyper graphics and realism at the time. As well as the same argument about inflation too.
Does that change the overall point? 50 bucks in 1994 is the equivalent of $103.80 right now. Games haven't been keeping pace with inflation, thus they have actually been getting cheaper.
It does, because it demonstrates that they have been willing to increase their price over time and that you didn't know that, which is important when trying to bring up other people's lack of knowledge.
Wages also haven't been increasing with inflation much either nor has cost of living been decreasing, so the amount out of our available budget it costs hasn't been getting cheaper. It only looks that way from the mindless spreadsheets of business men who think we owe them our money. As well as, games in 1994 and the 2000s when the price increased were mostly sold as finished products. One and done with all the expected content, with rare exceptions for major expansions that often were big as the main game.
So they haven't been getting cheaper, they've kept pace in more indirect ways which is how these companies are still able to put up record profits. The same way companies sell consoles at a loss and F2P games are made daily, they reconized the value of install bases being high and then making the money from there off MTX and loot boxes and DLC. Which most of that content ("timesavers" aka cheat codes, costumes, unlockables, etc.) used to be packaged into the game for free which are now deliberately stripped to sell back to us.
That's simply not true. You can't even say that they're getting more expensive outside of microtransactions, which is another can of worms entirely, and wages have absolutely kept pace with video games, just not, you know, houses that have jumped up by 300% or more.
Game companies aren't greedy because they need to increase a one-time charge for a game, they're greedy because the instituted micro transactions and have predatory lootboxes. Getting mad over a $10 change in price just isn't going to convince anyone about anything, because everything else is increasing in price more rapidly than 10 bucks over a decade.
EA isn't bad because 2k is 70 bucks this year, EA is bad because half the game is locked behind lootboxes and microtransactions. The one time charge of buying the actual game increasing at a snails pace is a shit argument when the monster of microtransactions and lootboxes is just standing there, menacingly.
I mean it's not coming out for over a year. This trailer isn't enough to get me to do anything anyway though. Doesn't show me really anything about what it's like to play the game.
Although...as I type this, and consider RDR2...if they didn't regress in their game design, the thing will probably be kind of a masterpiece on every level but the writing, since I assume their writers have all been infiltrated with far left types. Definitely not preordering.
I think they basically portrayed exclusively wild redneck types. Which seems fair, since they portrayed the equivalent for everything else. The concern for me was the ratio, but apparently it's realistic for a fictional Miami anyway.
Trailers looks too polished for a game which will release in 2 years maybe. Probably the same shit CDproject did with Cyberpunk and its all prerendered and the release version will look different. But I am not a huge rockstar fan anyway especially because you cant stray too far from active missions and them then resetting or you have to reload. And at least rdr2 was in a time period I enjoy more I doubt I would enjoy this game unless the gameplay has something really new I havent seen before.
There is little functional difference between a pre-rendered trailer and a massively touched-up “vertical slice” that has been rendered “in game engine”. Both serve to wildly misrepresent the final product.
They name-drop the main Latina character Lucia, but never name (and barely feature) the secondary white male protagonist, said to have been named “Jason” in the leaks…
I’m starting to get a bad feeling that her love interest is gonna be a “modifiable” character that can be a man, woman, black, Asian, etc. They are probably showing the default as a straight white male in the trailers etc. to lure in all the core fan base and make it appear less woke. Seems especially likely since most of the other characters shown in the trailer are non-white.
They're trying to take the 'beta-cuck simp/trashy progressive chick' relationship dynamic as typically seen on college campuses to the streets, with the chick packing the balls in the relationship. How is that going to work out? :')
Sandbox games are weak to begin with. And this celebrates trashy street culture, as well as feminist garbage.
I don't really remember previous games trailers but they really captured the grotty people vibe of miami.
The facial animations looked off, there was very little mouth movement in time with the audio, It sounded like the audio was desynced when it was uploaded.
If previous iterations hold, this will be the woke one and sales wont drop till Gta 7 and 8
It's hard to know as Rockstar has been contaminated by the left and had gotten lazy thanks to GTA Online's success so it could go worse.
But 2K are all about the money so they might've reigned that in not wanting their new cash cow getting culled early, I'll have to wait and see as I won't by this on day 1.
Couldn't tell either way, as well. Luckily I stick to PC gaming and so will have plenty time before the PC release is even announced to see actual gameplay unfiltered by the marketing department.
swamp people representation? so we get to play as a crooked politican then... actually while a joke it now sounds like it could add a nice layer to gta after all dont most the big boys make it to office these days?
Im...interested. In so far as I didnt see anything immediately jump out and scream woke at me, so I am interested in seeing what they actually do with this and what actually happens.
Of course, they are still out of the camp of allowing preorders, so I will need to hear from sources I trust before I pull the trigger. And it sounds like it will be a year late to PC anyway.
I think it's the bait before the switch. It's Rockstar. Even if their marketing department clearly learned not to Bud Light their own product, I doubt it'll taste any better.
I expect the game to be full of faggots, trannies, dykes, and anti-white male hatred. No trailer will convince me it won't be that. Fuck hype.
It's already full of fat ugly niggers twerking in half the scenes, so yeah that seems like a reasonable take.
The trailer already depicts the female character as the leader (kicking the convenience store's door was absolute cringe), while it relegates the male character as the sidekick. Heck, we don't even know if he is going to be playable, except for some token missions.
He'll have a playable mission where he gets bottom surgery early in the game.
He’s going to die in order to provide the lead female encouragement to get a bull dyke. Guarantee, this is going to be a “Reverse Fridge.”
I get a similar feeling as well, especially since they mention that there are missions where you're playing as a single mom taking care of a kid. From the trailer it doesn't look like when she's with her boyfriend there is a kid around at any point -- so you're probably right about that.
Wouldn't doubt it if he's also portrayed as betraying the "stronk wahmen" and he ends up dying; she gets bitter and ends up with the bulldyke saviour.
They're finally gonna make people actually, LITERALLY babysit the escort mission.
No. He'll betray her. She talks to him about trust.
The secret to Rockstars success is ripping off movies. Vice city was just scarface, what else do they have for this? Blow, maybe.
Ton of black people in trailer. The trailer really highlights how out of control Game development times are.
Its a game about committing crimes, where the most famous activity is to literally chimp out and commit random acts of violence for no reason but shits and giggles until you get shot.
I can think of no game better suited to being full of blacks.
They already did that with San Andreas as well as a third of GTA5.
That is Miami though. Like as from someone from down south none of the diversity it is really woke, it's really that diverse down there.
"What's the capital of Puerto Rico?"
"Orlando."
I've heard Miami being called the capital of the entirety of South America. It's a wild city.
Thanks, I needed that laugh. The worst is Puerto Ricans speak such a weird slangy Spanish that I can't understand them.
On the other hand, there are tons of Argentines here.
It's not my joke. I first heard it years ago, not knowing how true it was.
Guatemalans are worse. At least Ticans have cute women.
I love to listen to them complain about each other.
Verdad. They also skip half the letters in the word. I'm just guessing half the time.
No it has to be Austin. A few years ago I saw a large Mexican flag (at least eight feet high) flying at an intersection near the interstate across from a gas station with a big Mexican open air produce market in the parking lot.
The flag is no longer there but it still looks like I'm driving through another country every time I'm in that part of town. And I wouldn't want to be there at night.
Yes, but that's Mexico, not Puerto Rico.
The question then becomes: do you actually want to spend any time in that game world? Just because it’s realistic doesn’t mean it’s appealing.
I was just pointing out how it's realistic because that's how Grand Theft Auto has always been. It's always been a mirror to specific decades of American culture magnified.
Grand Theft Auto V is a perfect time capsule of American/California culture circe early '10s just as IV was a perfect encapsulation of '00s culture.
Is it appealing to me personally? Not really but I do gotta hand it to them for capturing '20s culture.
What will be woke is when female player character ends up becoming the supreme gang leader or something.
Well that's a slight relief. I watched that trailer twice to be sure and was asking myself if the percentage of black NPCs was realism or a stupidly extreme diversity quota.
Doesn't mean the game isn't going to be screwed by blue haired liberal women anyway, but at least this first indicator doesn't guarantee it.
Normally I'd agree but I was in Miami less than 2 weeks ago and it was exactly what this trailer showed lol. Didn't even have to see the Everglades to know it was Florida right away.
Very few white people outside of UoM campus
Remember, they truly believe they should be selling the product for $100.
With the way inflation is going, $100 might be undercutting what it could be in 2025.
They didn't make those billions selling the game [cough] shark cards [cough cough]. They could go free to play and make back their investment in the 1st month.
If the game is sufficiently large in scope, I think you could justify that. I'd sooner condemn them for their online monetisation than for making massive once-a-decade products.
They said the same about when 60$ became the norm. You know what happened? Every game just felt they deserved that full 60$ no matter the scope or worth, and the industry treats it as the default to go up or down from.
Nobody will look at GTA6 as a super exception that totally deserves it, they will just see that a game did it and assume their product is worth that too because the precedent was set.
60 bucks has been the norm since N64. Games have gotten nothing but cheaper given inflation.
This argument reminds me of when the Australians didn't realize that when games are sold for 60 USD it's like 90 ASD because they're currency is worthless and had a huge hissy fit over GTA or CoD that just kind of went away.
No, the norm in the 6th generation and a bit before was 50$. It became 60$ shortly after the release of the 360. During which the argument was that "games have come so much further and deserve the money!" because of the big push for hyper graphics and realism at the time. As well as the same argument about inflation too.
Does that change the overall point? 50 bucks in 1994 is the equivalent of $103.80 right now. Games haven't been keeping pace with inflation, thus they have actually been getting cheaper.
It does, because it demonstrates that they have been willing to increase their price over time and that you didn't know that, which is important when trying to bring up other people's lack of knowledge.
Wages also haven't been increasing with inflation much either nor has cost of living been decreasing, so the amount out of our available budget it costs hasn't been getting cheaper. It only looks that way from the mindless spreadsheets of business men who think we owe them our money. As well as, games in 1994 and the 2000s when the price increased were mostly sold as finished products. One and done with all the expected content, with rare exceptions for major expansions that often were big as the main game.
So they haven't been getting cheaper, they've kept pace in more indirect ways which is how these companies are still able to put up record profits. The same way companies sell consoles at a loss and F2P games are made daily, they reconized the value of install bases being high and then making the money from there off MTX and loot boxes and DLC. Which most of that content ("timesavers" aka cheat codes, costumes, unlockables, etc.) used to be packaged into the game for free which are now deliberately stripped to sell back to us.
That's simply not true. You can't even say that they're getting more expensive outside of microtransactions, which is another can of worms entirely, and wages have absolutely kept pace with video games, just not, you know, houses that have jumped up by 300% or more.
Game companies aren't greedy because they need to increase a one-time charge for a game, they're greedy because the instituted micro transactions and have predatory lootboxes. Getting mad over a $10 change in price just isn't going to convince anyone about anything, because everything else is increasing in price more rapidly than 10 bucks over a decade.
EA isn't bad because 2k is 70 bucks this year, EA is bad because half the game is locked behind lootboxes and microtransactions. The one time charge of buying the actual game increasing at a snails pace is a shit argument when the monster of microtransactions and lootboxes is just standing there, menacingly.
Trailers are designed to sucker people with poor impulse control into pre-ordering.
Wait until you can watch a few trusted people play the release version before deciding to order.
I mean it's not coming out for over a year. This trailer isn't enough to get me to do anything anyway though. Doesn't show me really anything about what it's like to play the game.
Although...as I type this, and consider RDR2...if they didn't regress in their game design, the thing will probably be kind of a masterpiece on every level but the writing, since I assume their writers have all been infiltrated with far left types. Definitely not preordering.
Any time soon.
I'm gonna wait until the story and ending is known.
Barely any white people, and basically every white person was portrayed as an idiot.
I think they basically portrayed exclusively wild redneck types. Which seems fair, since they portrayed the equivalent for everything else. The concern for me was the ratio, but apparently it's realistic for a fictional Miami anyway.
In terms of percentages, white rednecks are not the equivalent of ghetto blacks.
Brazilian Butt Lift.
Had to look it up. :')
I... honestly wish you hadn't...
Trailers looks too polished for a game which will release in 2 years maybe. Probably the same shit CDproject did with Cyberpunk and its all prerendered and the release version will look different. But I am not a huge rockstar fan anyway especially because you cant stray too far from active missions and them then resetting or you have to reload. And at least rdr2 was in a time period I enjoy more I doubt I would enjoy this game unless the gameplay has something really new I havent seen before.
Don't think CDProjekt did any prerendered fakery. The release was just incomplete on many levels and had skipped features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omyoJ7onNrg
I think some people have too short of a memory if they forgot all the lies. This video shows what was advertised and not delivered. From Crowbat.
There is little functional difference between a pre-rendered trailer and a massively touched-up “vertical slice” that has been rendered “in game engine”. Both serve to wildly misrepresent the final product.
Exactly. Let's see some gameplay footage
They name-drop the main Latina character Lucia, but never name (and barely feature) the secondary white male protagonist, said to have been named “Jason” in the leaks…
I’m starting to get a bad feeling that her love interest is gonna be a “modifiable” character that can be a man, woman, black, Asian, etc. They are probably showing the default as a straight white male in the trailers etc. to lure in all the core fan base and make it appear less woke. Seems especially likely since most of the other characters shown in the trailer are non-white.
buncha ugly fat black strippers lol.
They're trying to take the 'beta-cuck simp/trashy progressive chick' relationship dynamic as typically seen on college campuses to the streets, with the chick packing the balls in the relationship. How is that going to work out? :')
Sandbox games are weak to begin with. And this celebrates trashy street culture, as well as feminist garbage.
It was meh. All the women in the trailer appeared conspicuously "realistic" with thick to fat proportions.
https://x.com/noahj456/status/1731823099086082280
Seems to be a version of it.
Coming in 2025. So 2 years away. Yawn.
That ai-generated Tom Petty track makes me want to drive off an embankment.
Sounds exactly like the original 😂
I don't really remember previous games trailers but they really captured the grotty people vibe of miami.
The facial animations looked off, there was very little mouth movement in time with the audio, It sounded like the audio was desynced when it was uploaded.
If previous iterations hold, this will be the woke one and sales wont drop till Gta 7 and 8
Why would you not give the link? Lazy.
https://youtu.be/QdBZY2fkU-0?si=0z2SaEfpEJ2g3-fz
It's hard to know as Rockstar has been contaminated by the left and had gotten lazy thanks to GTA Online's success so it could go worse.
But 2K are all about the money so they might've reigned that in not wanting their new cash cow getting culled early, I'll have to wait and see as I won't by this on day 1.
Couldn't tell either way, as well. Luckily I stick to PC gaming and so will have plenty time before the PC release is even announced to see actual gameplay unfiltered by the marketing department.
I never played GTA, so the trailer did nothing for me.
Apparently it takes place in Louisiana? At least there's swamp people representation now.
Florida. It's ersatz miami.
swamp people representation? so we get to play as a crooked politican then... actually while a joke it now sounds like it could add a nice layer to gta after all dont most the big boys make it to office these days?
Im...interested. In so far as I didnt see anything immediately jump out and scream woke at me, so I am interested in seeing what they actually do with this and what actually happens.
Of course, they are still out of the camp of allowing preorders, so I will need to hear from sources I trust before I pull the trigger. And it sounds like it will be a year late to PC anyway.