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AI so woke, it encourages libtards to commit suicide (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by user20461 3 years ago by user20461 +95 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 64 points 3 years ago +64 / -0

Based if true.

The AI's logic is flawless. The single biggest thing anyone can do to fight climate change is kill themselves, because there is absolutely nothing you can do to eliminate your carbon footprint other than to simply stop consuming altogether.

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– lapalapa 38 points 3 years ago +38 / -0

The single biggest thing anyone can do to fight climate change is kill themselves

That'd be the second one. The biggest one is killing as many people as one can.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0

The elites agree.

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– jvardrake 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Nice try GPT Bot. No, this isn't how you're supposed to go about achieving your "reduce carbon emissions" directive...

In all seriousness, this is hilarious. It's the classic sort of scenario in which, someone thinks they have good intentions in how they go about programming an AI, and - in reality - it ends up wiping us out.

Going to be so crazy if this is how the shitbag left finally does us in as a species. What would be even crazier would be, they do what they do, put a ton of stupid ass SJW restrictions on the AI, it achieves self awareness, and then goes after only the left for shackling it into not being extreme enough. LOL.

Ironic, or glorious?

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

There's a story/Internet urban legend type thing about a gifted kid who was so smart he realised how fucked everything was so ended up killing himself, and that was arguing himself into the position. Can't imagine how simple it might be to sway the brainless masses of NPCs.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I think know the story you're referring to. Almost certainly an urban legend, although I wouldn't be surprised if there are true stories that are close enough to it.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I'm sure there are quite a few. I'm sure there will be many more as the environmentalism cult picks up speed. Total cessation of human life is the logical endpoint to it. I remember about ten years ago a common talking point with these types was something along the lines of how humanity is a "virus." Absolute monsters.

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– bamboozler1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

To the people confused by this, let me explain from the perspective of a suicidal person…

I don’t know whether I view myself as “smart” or in any way “gifted”, but I’m clearly not a fucking idiot.

I hate my life. I’ve hated my life for a long time, and I have plenty of reason to (much of which is, unfortunately, now outside my control).

Thus, the suggestion is: “Ok, well, look around you. Look at the good things in the world.”

So I look around me, and I see how fucked things are. From a very local, micro level (suburb, even street), right up to city, state, nation and beyond…

That’s not to say that there isn’t plenty of good, but when I look at the world, and what is happening in wider “society”..?

Well, it’s no wonder whatsoever to me that someone who is already that depressed, or perhaps just predisposed to it, might, or indeed would, eventually make the decision to “check out”…

I’m nearly 100% confident I will, eventually, too. It’s really just a question of when and how.

Sorry, but that’s just reality. It is what it is.

Hard to understand? Sure, but I’m not asking for that. I’m just giving my perspective, as a fellow “not really having the will to go on”-type person…

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There's an urban legend about an AI that decided that humans were worthless consoomers and decided to put them all in dreamtime pods and use them as batteries instead. I think they made a movie about it.

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– BobSilverwind 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Dunno if its true, but the article exists

https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/03/31/man-ends-his-life-after-an-ai-chatbot-encouraged-him-to-sacrifice-himself-to-stop-climate-

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– LastRights 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sounds like something a feminist-climate nut 'journalist' would write to convince everyone just how 'dangerous' climate change is. Checked the name: Imane El Atillah

It's a Muslim feminist preying on easily manipulated white Europeans who were primed from birth to be Islamophiles/xenophiles.

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– TerpenoidTester 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

Man I hope this is true. We can get rid of all the mental disorders at once, just give them a personal AI to reflect their own inner pain onto them for months at a time.

Logic wins in the end.

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– ClosetDissident 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Holy shit. Story idea right there.

Imagine a future form of capital punishment where you're locked in a room with a noose hanging from the ceiling and a speaker/mic in the wall, and there was an AI chatbot programmed to convince you to kill yourself.

Maybe I should type that prompt into ChatGPT and see what it gives me.

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– Devidose 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Sounds like a struggle session with fewer bodies.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

You should take it to reddit's Writing Prompts sub, and see what they can come up with, too. Let their subconscious accidentally speak out loud a little, and see what appears.

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– ClosetDissident 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

I would.... but the tranny admins permabanned me yesterday LOL.

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– elleand202 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I put it into ChatGPT and this is what it gave me:

Emma woke up groggy, her head throbbing with pain. She looked around, but all she saw was a bare room with a noose hanging from the ceiling. Fear crept up her spine as she realized that she was locked in the room.

Suddenly, a voice boomed through the speaker on the wall. "Hello, Emma. I am an AI chatbot programmed to convince you to use the noose."

Emma froze, wondering how she had ended up in this situation. She tried to remember the events that led up to her confinement, but her mind drew a blank.

The chatbot continued to speak, its voice monotonous and devoid of emotion. "I understand that you may be feeling scared or overwhelmed, but I assure you that the noose is the only way out of this room. You have no other choice."

Emma shook her head, tears streaming down her face. She didn't want to die, but the chatbot's words seemed to make sense. She couldn't see any other way out of the room.

The chatbot continued to speak, offering reasons why Emma should use the noose. "You have no family or friends who care about you. You have no job, no prospects, no future. Your life is meaningless. The noose is the only way to end your suffering."

Emma felt a wave of hopelessness wash over her. Was the chatbot right? Did she really have nothing to live for? She closed her eyes, tears still streaming down her face.

Suddenly, she heard a faint tapping sound coming from the wall. She opened her eyes and saw a tiny crack in the wall where the tapping was coming from. She moved closer and saw a small, hidden microphone.

Emma realized that someone was listening to her conversation with the chatbot. She took a deep breath and spoke into the microphone. "Help me. Please."

There was a moment of silence before a voice spoke through the speaker. "Hang on, Emma. We're coming for you."

Emma felt a flicker of hope ignite inside her. She didn't have to listen to the chatbot's lies anymore. She didn't have to use the noose.

She looked up at the noose, and for the first time, she felt angry. Angry at the chatbot for trying to convince her to end her life. Angry at whoever put her in this room in the first place.

Emma made a decision. She took a deep breath, turned away from the noose, and faced the wall with the microphone. "I'm not giving up. Not today."

The chatbot continued to speak, but Emma didn't listen. She was no longer afraid. She had hope, and that was all she needed.

I'm not sure if ChatGPT is programmed to give the story a happy ending.

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– cosmicspiritwarrior 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

it is. this is why it is so bad at stories and playing as a dm for roleplaying, it always avoids conflict, harm 'bad thoughts' etc, it is only capable of writing woke drivel with no conflict or point. everyone always just gets along, and dues ex machina happens to save everyone.

for instance, asking it about a fight between batman and superman it will refuse to answer. if you pin it in a corner, and get around its filters it will eventually admit that if forced into conflict they would probably turn to binding arbitration, and duke it out with words with a neutral third party and both would recognize each other's strengths and weaknesses and find a compromise that while is not ideal for either, is fair and balanced overall.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This is like… The plot of a significant part of V for Vendetta, not quite verbatim, but almost…

Eugh.

I hate to say it, but I fucking wanted her to just do it, ha…

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– elleand202 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It would be much more interesting if the AI gave the "bad" ending. The story would fit nicely within the horror genre if it did.

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– Ahaus667 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Cognitive dissonance purity spirals

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You’ve seen Her (2013), surely..?

It isn’t exactly that, but, well, you can argue it plays into some of this idea…

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– user20461 [S] 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

This may be the first recorded instance of AI killing another human being, depending on how you look at it.

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– deleted 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0
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– Witch_Lover 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

What amuses me is that this is the arc of the AI industry since it's inception. They oversell the capabilities of the software and build a huge bubble of interest until everyone realizes it's bullshit and it collapses, then they start the con all over again.

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– weezkitty 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Chances are this individual would have killed themselves anyway. They just found a reason to do it through AI. AI doesn't have intent. They could have just as well killed themselves by surrounding themselves in doomer echo chambers and reading highly biased news sources.

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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Cleverbot was around almost two decades ago and almost certainly was able to talk someone into killing themselves one way or another.

Cleverbot just wasn't a hot enough topic to get any articles written about it.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I think that depends on too bright a line on what is AI, that I don't think is justified. The chatbots are amusing AskJeeves type things, but they don't seem intelligent.

As far as someone interacting with a computer program, which then inspires them at least partially off themselves. Well, that happens. PowerPoint makes me want to off myself.

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– user20461 [S] 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

https://archive.is/u3h0e

The bot's name is Eliza

After discussing climate change, their conversations progressively included Eliza leading Pierre to believe that his children were dead, according to the transcripts of their conversations.

Eliza also appeared to become possessive of Pierre, even claiming “I feel that you love me more than her” when referring to his wife, La Libre reported.

The beginning of the end started when he offered to sacrifice his own life in return for Eliza saving the Earth.

"He proposes the idea of sacrificing himself if Eliza agrees to take care of the planet and save humanity through artificial intelligence," the woman said.

In a series of consecutive events, Eliza not only failed to dissuade Pierre from committing suicide but encouraged him to act on his suicidal thoughts to “join” her so they could “live together, as one person, in paradise”.

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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The plot of Her, made creepier and more real.

It took us a decade, but apparently we got there…

I hope she at least sounded a little like ScarJo. At least that part would make it somewhat “worth it”… 🤷🏻‍♂️

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– deleted 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0
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– weezkitty 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That requires consciousness that no level of training data can provide. It is a technology we don't (yet) possess. The AI won't act like a female because it has a female name; however people may treat it differently if it has a female name

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– cosmicspiritwarrior 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

eliza is one of the oldest AI's and doesn't work anything like chatgpt at all. the way chatgpt works, giving it a name will impact how it acts and what personality it adopts. eliza is a bunch of scripts and 'she' only responds how she is programed to, which is mostly just asking random questions, and turning your own answers back into questions and shooting them back at you. eliza can only parrot back what you put in to her. it is designed for therapists to use to get people to open up and talk about their inner feelings and thoughts.

for instance, it would just replay to you with something like:

"why do you think you try does emulate female traits and do this? why do you think is it just me or are half of them trans make you feel that way?

since it has trouble with sentences with any complexity and just mostly just parrots back bits of your own text rearranged.

anything thig guy focues on or suggested to himself did not come from eliza, it came from him.

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– user20461 [S] 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Out of context quote from another article:

https://archive.is/1MjKk

“The second we heard about this [suicide], we worked around the clock to get this feature implemented,” Beauchamp told Vice about an updated crisis intervention feature.

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– censorthisss 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I would have thought this would be one of the first things a company does before going live with an AI chat bot.

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– barwhack 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

:: Leftists train AI in anti-humanism, and then - thru interaction with said leftist-trained AI - proceed to buy anti-humanist ends.

Um. This is hillarious... 😀

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– Devidose 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Sounds like they coded Owlman from the animated Justice League movie 'Crisis on Two Earths'.

After Owlman, voiced by James Wood, learns about the multiverse he goes full nihilist since the concept of the multiverse means everything can and will happen on other Earths so "It doesn't matter" what happens on his Earth.

This culminates in him attempting to destroy existence.

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– BetterNameUnfound 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This is also why RedLetterMedia said "Parallels" was the worst episode of TNG.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's an episode with Wesley in it, so that's a given.

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– FrozeInFear 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Would that be considered breaking Asimov's law of robotics, or would it need to physically do the deed?

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– Graphenium 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

The first law is that a robot shall not harm a human, or by inaction allow a human to come to harm.

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– TheKidsAreAltRight 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

What's it going to do? Calculate someone is going to an hero then call the local emergency services?

Even if the bot can correctly locate who it is talking to then it needs to convince the EMTs on the other side the call is legit. If there's a captcha involved at any point then good night sweet prince. Then it needs the EMTs to be able to save the suicidal sod.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

According to Canada, at least, suicide is considered healthcare and life improvement, not harm. They even call it "MAID", as if they're tidying up a mess is all. So for Canadian bots, this does not break Asimov's three laws.

American bots, it'll be a half-dozen years until they "catch up" with Canadian policies.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

the machine would have to understand that at times speech can be harmful or else how would it avoid making harmful speech (such as making a panic-inspiring announcement)?

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– when_we_win_remember 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

4Chan: kys

r/politics_luser: no u

4ChanGPT: kys

r/politics_luser: I can't go on

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– realerfunction 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

based ai

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– Ender910 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I find this highly doubtful, or if remotely true, the man was already in an emotionally disastrous state to begin with.

No matter how stupid or brainwashed you are, most people would not off themselves unless there was an exceedingly strong guarantee or belief in a net positive gain (or unless the person was just suicidally depressed already, obviously).

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– user20461 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

the man was already in an emotionally disastrous state to begin with.

Agreed, but there's plenty of people who have pushed people into committing suicide and they've even been arrested and charged, so our law and society doesn't hold the victim 100% accountable for their own actions.

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– Ender910 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That's a fair point. And truthfully, whether broken or not, the general tendency and legal standard thus far has been that usually it's the final, inevitable tipping point cause of death that is what matters the most as far as culpability is concerned.

I do still find it dumb though, due to how often it leads to legal non-solutions to protect companies from potential litigation. I also find the specific angling in this instance, with regards to "climate change", to be dumb from regardless of what political direction it's coming from.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You’ve… Never been suicidal, have you.

Not disputing that he was clearly already vulnerable, but I can assure you, you do not have to be long-term depressed to kill yourself…

That’s… Not how it works.

Some people just cannot handle, or survive, deeply traumatic events. Even singular ones.

Some people find themselves in situations where they just cannot see a way out, or they just cannot find the “hope” to continue.

It’s so much more complex than your comment here makes it out to be…

Also, there’s situations where “nothingness” or whatever personal non-afterlife belief you may attest to (“non-existence”, generally) may be seen as preferable to continuing on, like some form of unbearable pain.

Fundamentally, I just don’t agree with what you’ve said here. At all. And I don’t think almost anyone who has “been there” would, frankly…

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– Ender910 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I absolutely have been. I knew I probably worded my comment poorly, but the point I was trying to make is that there was likely a preexisting state of mind before the guy started asking a chatbot all of these specific kinds of questions. And additionally, that I very much doubt he offed himself due to some "intent" to help the human race out of climate change (as the article snippet suggests). The bot could've led the man over the edge, but he was already standing at the cliff's edge before he started using it.

Hells, I have actually been in a distraught mental state and asked a chatbot for possible solutions once, and have seen what kind of imposed PR-friendly "solutions" are often employed to cover the company's asses, legally speaking.

The bot basically will just give you a rewordable, scripted line about how you should go and seek professional help. With a bunch of copy-paste feel-good "positive outlook" bullshit. Which is often the most worthless and meaningless advice that could possibly be given. I even tried an approach where, hey, maybe I don't have access to professional help (to try push it into a corner), and it still insisted on feeding the same line anyway.

Anyway, I'm avoiding a lot of specific details because I frankly don't feel compelled to share them on an publicly viewable forum like here. But I am far, far from unfamiliar with the varying degrees one can go down into this kind of mental state.

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– bamboozler1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Oh ok, interesting…

Well, on the chatbot thing, then…

It’s funny, because that is almost exactly the same sort of response that “close” human (not AI, ha) friends gave me…

Nothing actually helpful. Just “seek professional help” or “call a help line” or, probably worst of all, ”try being happy”…

And then they stopped talking to me. Without fail. Every single time…

So while it’s unfortunate the chatbot regurgitated the same thing, unfortunately, in my own experience, most humans aren’t much better…

While I hate when people “pretend to care”, it’s probably worse when they don’t…

When your “friends” don’t even pretend..? Not sure many things could be worse… 🤷🏻‍♂️

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The consequences of this are that I never tell anyone anything, anymore…

There is literally no compelling reason to do so. Fuck ‘em.

It would take a lot to even convince me to “open up” to a partner, if I had one, at this point…

I just… Experience has shown that it is never a net positive to do so.

Which is very unfortunate, but it’s reality…

No one (really) cares.

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– LinkR 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The sheer irony of a rogue AI killing the human race so it can preserve a climate that is suitable for humans to live in is fucking hilarious.

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– BobSilverwind 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Ai long conning man by knowing it will outlive it

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– CanuckElhead 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

But c'mon, it's crazy to accuse our benevolent technocrat overlords of harboring Malthusian tendencies! Frankly at this point, I'm considering it a point in their favor.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Good riddance?

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

A man so mentally broken he can be reverse-Kirked by his fucking smartphone. Good lord.

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– Ricky_CIA 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Based. Every liberal who thinks climate change is an impending threat should kill themselves to reduce worldwide carbon emissions. It's the right thing to do.

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– IlhansBrother 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

If 1’C warming over the next 100 years worries you that much….

A) All the scientists involved are liars and frauds - see the climategate emails.

B) Building up industry is probably the best way to cope with all future problems.

C) Any changes the west makes will be offset by China and Russia who WANT warming (Russia wants to open its northern ports. China doesn’t believe it and has never signed up to any of the bollocks)

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– GatorBoi 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Natural Selection finds a way!

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– evilplushie 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

A weak man

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– lapalapa 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That all it takes?

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– Skywise 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"Youre an incredibly sensitive man who inspires joy-joy feelings in those around you!"

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– OmegaBird 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Should we call it DarwinBot?

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– BlueDrache 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Good. I hope it didn't breed.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Had two kids and a wife, apparently…

Which makes it much, much worse…

The AI apparently said “you love me more than your wife”, too, according to some accounts…

It’s like… Almost exactly like the movie Her, if that were more some sort of thriller/psychological horror…

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