Video games are a product meant to make the consumer happy in exchange for money. If your developer engages in the following exchange:
Consumer: I don't like X, I would prefer Y
Developer: fuck you and fuck your preferences, you are wrong and your opinions are invalid, now allow me to lecture you on how YOUR preferences do not fit with MY vision and politics!
Consumer: nah, it's okay, I just won't play your shitty game, then. never forget who you work for, cunt.
Then that developer deserves to fail. Simple as.
This happens to me all the time with games which fuck with saving the game to block "save scumming" aka "actually wanting convenient saves and being able to roll back when bad shit happens that you didn't want to happen". Some idiots who are wrong, think that having the ability to save the game is somehow bad, because it lowers the stakes and gives the player too much power. This is idiotic. If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as. Don't deny ME the ability to play the game the way I want to play it because you can't control yourself. That's like banning all alcohol in society because YOU are an alcoholic who can't control yourself. You're imposing on me and violating my freedoms and forcing me to play the game YOUR way. Fuck you and fuck that. If a product wants to fight me and annoy me instead of serving me, I just won't buy it.
This happens to me all the time with games which fuck with saving the game to block "save scumming" aka "actually wanting convenient saves and being able to roll back when bad shit happens that you didn't want to happen". Some idiots who are wrong, think that having the ability to save the game is somehow bad, because it lowers the stakes and gives the player too much power. This is idiotic. If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as. Don't deny ME the ability to play the game the way I want to play it because you can't control yourself.
You’re like a bad idea machine lol
Git gud, pussy
To expand: it is actually the developers’ responsibility to craft and balance their video games - not mine.
I agree with him for the vast majority of games. Yes not all games need save states. If the game is designed around a specific save system, that can often work better. For example I like the stress of saving in Alien Isolation. Most devs idea of "balance" is just "This is it too easy, here's an artificial constraint." In other cases, you can tell that the "design" is an iteration on an older concept that got popular so they simply retain without much thought. Sort of like how console games kept aspects from arcade games for a long time even though they were no longer in the arcade.
Anyway QuickSave/QuickLoad is my jam and my idea of fun games will revolve around those that include it. If you prefer slogging it to a save point that's ok too.
The problem is that I'm not convinced those are female faces. Humanity being ugly in the hellscape that is the 41st millenium isn't unexpected, but this isn't that.
That's frankly the problem here. I'm okay with people being ugly because they are prisoners who've been through hell, including women.
But outside of the face, it does appear that they are trying to look aesthetically pleasing to someone: there are no scars, no worn skin, unkempt hair.
"Hurr durr dick tingle" is what they always cry about, but this is clearly supposed to make someone's dick tingle otherwise you'd have a very different looking woman.
Here's a good comparison to what real women look like who've seen some shit.
Here's a french woman refugee, again during WW1. Again: sullen look, sunken face, dirty, veins showing on her arms. She's got a happy daughter, and that's about all she's got left from the German artillery. Again: she's been through hell and you can see how it's worn on her.
Here's a woman engaged in manual labor Again, she's not dolled up, but holy shit does she look like she's been put through the wringer moving backs of shit all day. The URL says she's a "coal heaver". I can only imagine how fucking exhausting heaving coal for a woman must be.
What it looks like they tried to create are Testosternoe Overladen Female MMA fighters who are age 50 in the face only, rather than, you know, women.
In the Before Time you could believably tell a story like that and it would be fine, in a post-Gamergate world all ugly female characters are directly intended to upset the enemies of the communists who made the game.
Eyeliner and blusher aren't priorities when you're in prison awaiting a suicide mission.
Do the female characters start with 60%-80% of male character's stats? No? Then let's not debate realism here friendo and put some lipstick on that pig!.
yeah... unfortunately the only female character in a western game in the last 5 years that looks like a super model is probably Panam from CP2077.. lol. sad.
I didn't downvote (why lol) but holy shit you've got some high standards. Don't look at her real life model then because they really dolled up the character.
The issue isn't whether or not the women are attractive, it's whether or not they fit in or at least look human. They don't really. The people in the comments saying it's grimdark are correct, but at least the ugly men look stylized and fit the universe. These female characters look like some art director faggot hit 'em with the "ugly" filter right before the game came out.
...Or it's an excuse from Fatshark because the game is a hot mess in terms of coding, storyline, execution, launch, customizability, and gameplay, so it probably has issues in graphics, too, but if they claim "wokeness" then they're immune to criticism.
Yeah I think people here are Flanderizing the "ALL IS GRIMDARK AND WAR IN THE FUTURE" trope. The Warhammer civilization is vastly larger in scale to ours and has a wide range of settings to choose from. W4K wiki says "the Imperium of Man consists of over one million inhabited worlds". Many of them are "forgotten" planets and Feudal Worlds that are protected from war and Chaos. In this particular game's story and setting (a prison ship), all women looking like dirty meth-addled mutants might make sense, but that's not an absolute truth for 40k.
if the OP pick is anything to go by, they still look like women. Older and ugly woman who've been punched into face a couple of times in their lives, but women.
By the time of 40k, everyone is so eugenically bred that every dude is over 6 foot tall and looks like Giga-Chad, and every woman is something like 5'10 or taller and looks like a supermodel.
The heads of female minis are almost universally ugly.
There are some hotties in the offical 2D artwork, but but the 40 year old stern matron look is present all throughout 3rd edition (which largely solidified the 40k aesthetic) rulebooks
They've got that 50 yard stare down to a T. So if the idea is you're plucked from the war to now deal with whatever Darktide is asking of you, then yeah, it fits. Daily life and death struggles break you as a person. So you're not going to look pretty even if you were, before war took that from you.
But I think the problem is they didn't make female shaped bodies, and it's screwing with their character creator's overall body shape. You have bone shapes for males in the head and neck. It also looks like there is a connective bone issue in the model around the collar. No one's neck is shaped like a triangle that starts at the chin and ends at the shoulder unless they're missing connective bones around the collar bone like a cat. You can't droop your shoulders into that shape unless you're missing a bone.
I'll give them that infantry guard armor is likely heavy and cumbersome until your body gets used to it, but it wouldn't cause a physiological change like that, so it's probably just a skeletal bone issue in the model.
And if I'm right about it being an issue with the model, knowing how Fat Shark fixes things in their games, this will get fixed about 15 minutes before Darktide 2 launches, if at all.
Kinda on point, the mini figs sometimes do end up a bit fucked up anyways, and even GW official art has had some less than stellar portrayals of even Emps and Sanguinius.
Video games are a product meant to make the consumer happy in exchange for money. If your developer engages in the following exchange:
Consumer: I don't like X, I would prefer Y
Developer: fuck you and fuck your preferences, you are wrong and your opinions are invalid, now allow me to lecture you on how YOUR preferences do not fit with MY vision and politics!
Consumer: nah, it's okay, I just won't play your shitty game, then. never forget who you work for, cunt.
Then that developer deserves to fail. Simple as.
This happens to me all the time with games which fuck with saving the game to block "save scumming" aka "actually wanting convenient saves and being able to roll back when bad shit happens that you didn't want to happen". Some idiots who are wrong, think that having the ability to save the game is somehow bad, because it lowers the stakes and gives the player too much power. This is idiotic. If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as. Don't deny ME the ability to play the game the way I want to play it because you can't control yourself. That's like banning all alcohol in society because YOU are an alcoholic who can't control yourself. You're imposing on me and violating my freedoms and forcing me to play the game YOUR way. Fuck you and fuck that. If a product wants to fight me and annoy me instead of serving me, I just won't buy it.
You’re like a bad idea machine lol
Git gud, pussy
To expand: it is actually the developers’ responsibility to craft and balance their video games - not mine.
You didn't tackled his point though. How is his save scumming affecting you?
I agree with him for the vast majority of games. Yes not all games need save states. If the game is designed around a specific save system, that can often work better. For example I like the stress of saving in Alien Isolation. Most devs idea of "balance" is just "This is it too easy, here's an artificial constraint." In other cases, you can tell that the "design" is an iteration on an older concept that got popular so they simply retain without much thought. Sort of like how console games kept aspects from arcade games for a long time even though they were no longer in the arcade.
Anyway QuickSave/QuickLoad is my jam and my idea of fun games will revolve around those that include it. If you prefer slogging it to a save point that's ok too.
Takes no skill to keep reloading until 1% is as good as 100%
"How does this help us sell videogames?"
“Videogames?”
The problem is that I'm not convinced those are female faces. Humanity being ugly in the hellscape that is the 41st millenium isn't unexpected, but this isn't that.
The heads have clashing male and female characteristics at times. Male jaws with female foreheads, or suspiciously male foreheads with female jawlines.
But the upper bodies are definitely male. Look at those shoulders and deltoids.
That's frankly the problem here. I'm okay with people being ugly because they are prisoners who've been through hell, including women.
But outside of the face, it does appear that they are trying to look aesthetically pleasing to someone: there are no scars, no worn skin, unkempt hair.
"Hurr durr dick tingle" is what they always cry about, but this is clearly supposed to make someone's dick tingle otherwise you'd have a very different looking woman.
Here's a good comparison to what real women look like who've seen some shit.
What it looks like they tried to create are Testosternoe Overladen Female MMA fighters who are age 50 in the face only, rather than, you know, women.
A WNBA player
Maybe the devs realized the only way women make sense in Warhammer is if they're all trannies. Abominations birthed by chaos. Certainly looks like it.
Maybe exposure to chaos has deformed these humans into ugly creatures. GW female faces have always looked kinda off to me.
In the Before Time you could believably tell a story like that and it would be fine, in a post-Gamergate world all ugly female characters are directly intended to upset the enemies of the communists who made the game.
I promise you we're dealing with it better than you'll deal with it when we don't buy the game.
Do the female characters start with 60%-80% of male character's stats? No? Then let's not debate realism here friendo and put some lipstick on that pig!.
yeah... unfortunately the only female character in a western game in the last 5 years that looks like a super model is probably Panam from CP2077.. lol. sad.
And even she doesn't look all that great, more like a 6/10 at best.
I didn't downvote (why lol) but holy shit you've got some high standards. Don't look at her real life model then because they really dolled up the character.
"That's a man, baby."
The issue isn't whether or not the women are attractive, it's whether or not they fit in or at least look human. They don't really. The people in the comments saying it's grimdark are correct, but at least the ugly men look stylized and fit the universe. These female characters look like some art director faggot hit 'em with the "ugly" filter right before the game came out.
...Or it's an excuse from Fatshark because the game is a hot mess in terms of coding, storyline, execution, launch, customizability, and gameplay, so it probably has issues in graphics, too, but if they claim "wokeness" then they're immune to criticism.
I mean, thematically it makes sense. 40K is a grim dark universe, there's nothing pretty about it
Lol 40k has a lot of pretty things. The Imperium is an army of ornate Roman embossments and walking cathedrals, the Emperor is an archangelic icon
Yeah I think people here are Flanderizing the "ALL IS GRIMDARK AND WAR IN THE FUTURE" trope. The Warhammer civilization is vastly larger in scale to ours and has a wide range of settings to choose from. W4K wiki says "the Imperium of Man consists of over one million inhabited worlds". Many of them are "forgotten" planets and Feudal Worlds that are protected from war and Chaos. In this particular game's story and setting (a prison ship), all women looking like dirty meth-addled mutants might make sense, but that's not an absolute truth for 40k.
Nope for every throwback you've got the Sisters of Battle or the average Guardswoman both can be attractive.
Look at even the women from the Necromunda shithole.
Tell that to a Callidus assassin.
The anus is a dark grim universe, and there's nothing pretty about it, and yet....
if the OP pick is anything to go by, they still look like women. Older and ugly woman who've been punched into face a couple of times in their lives, but women.
By the time of 40k, everyone is so eugenically bred that every dude is over 6 foot tall and looks like Giga-Chad, and every woman is something like 5'10 or taller and looks like a supermodel.
they look like super mutants from Fallout.
Also lol @ Dualshockers, I remember when they were pro GamerGate back in the day.
To be fair, this is the one setting where everyone being ugly makes sense, the amount of stress and conflict happening constantly wears down the body
Also make sense the only good looking ones are superhuman and are like demigods compared to the regular grunts.
Only nobles would be pretty, and they sure don't fight in the lower strata of society.
Of course they locked the steam thread, those gigantic pussies.
Holy shit. Why the fuck do they look like HG Well's morlocks?
Tranny Simulator 50,000 looks lit.
Another game I won't be getting. Darn.
Hey, they just wanted to be accurate to the models GW produces.
ITT: People who've never looked at GW's female faces
In artworks?
The heads of female minis are almost universally ugly.
There are some hotties in the offical 2D artwork, but but the 40 year old stern matron look is present all throughout 3rd edition (which largely solidified the 40k aesthetic) rulebooks
Everyone one looks like Miss Trunchbull.
Or at least, almost everyone.
Fascinatingly, it's actually in the more recent artwork that GW has had more youthful and photogenic female faces take precedent
I mean... it's Fatshark. They couldn't do a good looking face if their life depended on it.
They've got that 50 yard stare down to a T. So if the idea is you're plucked from the war to now deal with whatever Darktide is asking of you, then yeah, it fits. Daily life and death struggles break you as a person. So you're not going to look pretty even if you were, before war took that from you.
But I think the problem is they didn't make female shaped bodies, and it's screwing with their character creator's overall body shape. You have bone shapes for males in the head and neck. It also looks like there is a connective bone issue in the model around the collar. No one's neck is shaped like a triangle that starts at the chin and ends at the shoulder unless they're missing connective bones around the collar bone like a cat. You can't droop your shoulders into that shape unless you're missing a bone.
I'll give them that infantry guard armor is likely heavy and cumbersome until your body gets used to it, but it wouldn't cause a physiological change like that, so it's probably just a skeletal bone issue in the model.
And if I'm right about it being an issue with the model, knowing how Fat Shark fixes things in their games, this will get fixed about 15 minutes before Darktide 2 launches, if at all.
Kinda on point, the mini figs sometimes do end up a bit fucked up anyways, and even GW official art has had some less than stellar portrayals of even Emps and Sanguinius.
Eldar supremacy I guess