Oh no! Our new game - which we are charging more for even before DLC - is running well under 50% positive reviews on Steam, and has 2/3 of the number of active players as the version that came out in 2010! (right now, SteamDB says 32.3k players for Civ6, 12.8K for Civ5 and 8.8k for Civ7).
Obviously the way to fix this problem is more ahistorical black people! Black Japanese worked so well for Ubisoft, I'm sure Black Mongol will work for us!
It’s a dual threat, esg funding is still very real, but you have to remember they pushed out everyone who isn’t a “true believer” that’s really what the blm/ metoo movements were, power grabs. So the only people even allowed in the industry must see a black female mongol and call it empowering. There’s also the phenomenon of toxic positivity caused by mass influxes of women and (insert “minority” here) who can’t tolerate any form of criticism so the products come out terribly because you get fired if you dare say “maybe we shouldn’t fuck up our entire franchise to appease women with septum piercings”.
Or I would say “you know everytime I go to the comic book store it’s almost always just guys buying comic books, so why are you so focused on girls in comics”?
Or they could use the tired argument they use for ridiculous modern day period pieces when they get some historian to say “actually Victorian England was as diverse as modern day Los Angeles”
Black National Socialism is currently in vogue at the moment among the intellectual elite. It is a result of the 1970's radicals gaining institutional power and pushing their ideology everywhere they can. As a result, their mysticism seems to be everywhere.
It could easily have 2 sources for this ongoing idiocy:
they honestly believe that if they put Black powerful Grrls in everything, then both Blacks and grrls will buy them! Same for trans, gays & etc too.
(Note: this has been proven wrong for a good decade now, they never learn)
they're getting paid to do it & thus don't care how much money they lose, it's covered! This is how Hollywood's been working for maybe 20+ years now. Crank out 'woke' films with hideous characters & lose millions. But it's a cheap price for pushing the narrative!
Even according to woke Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games, Grand Strategy is at 7% female / 93% and Turn-Based Strategy at 11/89 male players from a 2017 study. So no, women don't play that at all, but they think that if they put women as leaders, it will somehow create interest.
You forget modern corporate strategy is to alienate the current consumer base in order to appeal to a “broader audience”. Women making up only x percent of the consumer base means we haven’t changed the product enough to appease them!
Of my nerdy hobbies I have seen a number of black guys interested in comic books. Still overwhelmingly male hobby and white guys make up the majority of customers. I’ve only recently gotten into buying Manga but not sure the demographics but I’ve heard there is manga for pretty much every group.
Rest of the hobbies I haven’t seen the justification like you mentioned. I love games like civilization but I’m just one person. Gaming has been down this crazy road for a while along with sci-fi and fantasy book publishing
Old world is solid. Otherwise civ 5,6 are still the best options. The new “civ” (it’s not actually a civ game) decided to make leaders and cultures independent and also cultures change every time ”eras”. So Harriet Tubman (yes a civ “leader” in 7) could lead the mongols, it’s inherently stupid when they could have made multiple selectable leaders from each civ or just allow custom leaders and civs. They basically made a shitty IOS game with 1-2 hour “eras” not a civ game where the play through is meant to take 5-16 hours.
AoW4 is top notch but it’s not grand strategy. It’s more like what civ 7 semi tried to copy and failed miserably, which is almost aoe style maps with civ hubs to push faster gameplay versus that slow grind that civ is known for.
It's funny that when they don't like something in a game and you tell them it's just a game, they get all trigglypuff though. EDIT: This happened when SJWs were told the The Lord Of The Rings movies were just movies or just fantasy after they complained about everyone in them being white.
Endless Legend is probably the most unique "not-Civilization but still just Civilization." I enjoy a lot of its more wierd factions and its biggest weakness, combat, isn't much worse than Civs utterly braindead combat.
Its a little older, though the sequel is coming soon, but its also a solid entry point into the entire Endless Franchise which cross numerous genres you'll probably enjoy as well.
Age Of Wonders 4 is huge & very polished.
Master Of Magic (2022) is a remake of the classic (in 1994) that literally set the table for every game that followed. Looks good & is fun! Keeps the spirit of the old game, which is a very smart move.
Crusader Kings 3 is just gigantic & tons of depth to it.
There's others... Dominion?
The Master of Magic changes Rjak, a character who was canonically male in the original, to a they/them nonbinary, if that sort of thing is important to you.
Crusader Kings 3 is just gigantic & tons of depth to it.
While I definitely agree with that statement, I dont think I would include Paradox GSG's in a suggestion to Civ-like games. Because they play very different from one another.
Still, think it is great, and looking forward to the end of the year when they add China, Korea, and Japan as playable kingdoms. Add that with Victoria 3 having a ton of improvements and the very likely announcement of EU5 of Thursday, and Paradox is on a roll with me right now...except for HOI4, of all things (the recent DLC is kind of stretching it).
Not really. It's one of those commercials with the player as the avatar. There is also a white Mongol in the commercial as well. And at the end of the trailer, an actress tells you to make your own history. The in-game units are still proper Mongols.
There is a reason they showed a still frame and not the whole trailer. Watch the trailer
At some point even normies have to see this as the deranged cult fetishism it is, right? No sane person can think its a good idea to put black people into literally everything.
I wonder if there are black people out there who are tired of this; being given credit where they didn't ask for it and they know deep down you don't deserve it. It's just gratuitous with these companies constantly injecting race into everything, putting them everywhere, clapping like seals at their own fetish, preaching "yes you DID take part in that, you're so special and important!"
It's embarrassingly disingenuous and patronizing - every company and media outlet offering endless dishonest praise and credit like they're some mentally disabled students who managed to perform some simple task without fucking up.
Well there were some Mongols with pretty dark skin... who looked NOTHING like this! 😣 Holy revisionism Batman! And is that supposed to be a female warrior to boot? Pretty sure there weren't any girls in the Mongol hordes...
Trump killed USAID but it will still take years before major Western game developers puke up all the remnants and start putting white women with big boobs and cool action sequences in games again.
Funny and accurate reply:
Oh no! Our new game - which we are charging more for even before DLC - is running well under 50% positive reviews on Steam, and has 2/3 of the number of active players as the version that came out in 2010! (right now, SteamDB says 32.3k players for Civ6, 12.8K for Civ5 and 8.8k for Civ7).
Obviously the way to fix this problem is more ahistorical black people! Black Japanese worked so well for Ubisoft, I'm sure Black Mongol will work for us!
What is with the black people fetish? The fact that Mongolians aren't White isn't enough to be left alone anymore?
I’m convinced they must still get money for black, lgbt, feminism/girl power. I thought this sort of thing was dying down but I guess not
It’s a dual threat, esg funding is still very real, but you have to remember they pushed out everyone who isn’t a “true believer” that’s really what the blm/ metoo movements were, power grabs. So the only people even allowed in the industry must see a black female mongol and call it empowering. There’s also the phenomenon of toxic positivity caused by mass influxes of women and (insert “minority” here) who can’t tolerate any form of criticism so the products come out terribly because you get fired if you dare say “maybe we shouldn’t fuck up our entire franchise to appease women with septum piercings”.
Or I would say “you know everytime I go to the comic book store it’s almost always just guys buying comic books, so why are you so focused on girls in comics”?
Or they could use the tired argument they use for ridiculous modern day period pieces when they get some historian to say “actually Victorian England was as diverse as modern day Los Angeles”
Black National Socialism is currently in vogue at the moment among the intellectual elite. It is a result of the 1970's radicals gaining institutional power and pushing their ideology everywhere they can. As a result, their mysticism seems to be everywhere.
Lol somehow still nazis are the root problem. Sure.
Just National Socialism as a concept. In all but name, it's quite popular on the Left. Always has been.
It could easily have 2 sources for this ongoing idiocy:
they honestly believe that if they put Black powerful Grrls in everything, then both Blacks and grrls will buy them! Same for trans, gays & etc too.
(Note: this has been proven wrong for a good decade now, they never learn)
they're getting paid to do it & thus don't care how much money they lose, it's covered! This is how Hollywood's been working for maybe 20+ years now. Crank out 'woke' films with hideous characters & lose millions. But it's a cheap price for pushing the narrative!
We're hitting wuzzery levels that shouldn't even be possible.
Do women or blacks even play civ games in any meaningful numbers? Seems like deep strategy would be the whitest, most male genre of all.
Even according to woke Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games, Grand Strategy is at 7% female / 93% and Turn-Based Strategy at 11/89 male players from a 2017 study. So no, women don't play that at all, but they think that if they put women as leaders, it will somehow create interest.
And you have to assume most of the women are self-identified "women".
You forget modern corporate strategy is to alienate the current consumer base in order to appeal to a “broader audience”. Women making up only x percent of the consumer base means we haven’t changed the product enough to appease them!
Mike Tyson once said
It being valued among white males, means those against white males will be apt to attack and destroy it
How do you think the unthinkable?
Of my nerdy hobbies I have seen a number of black guys interested in comic books. Still overwhelmingly male hobby and white guys make up the majority of customers. I’ve only recently gotten into buying Manga but not sure the demographics but I’ve heard there is manga for pretty much every group.
Rest of the hobbies I haven’t seen the justification like you mentioned. I love games like civilization but I’m just one person. Gaming has been down this crazy road for a while along with sci-fi and fantasy book publishing
We wuz Khans n sheeeit.
We wuz goddam Mongorians!
Are they even trying to make an excuse for it or will it be “it’s just a game”. I haven’t played civilization in a long time. Any good alternatives?
Old world is solid. Otherwise civ 5,6 are still the best options. The new “civ” (it’s not actually a civ game) decided to make leaders and cultures independent and also cultures change every time ”eras”. So Harriet Tubman (yes a civ “leader” in 7) could lead the mongols, it’s inherently stupid when they could have made multiple selectable leaders from each civ or just allow custom leaders and civs. They basically made a shitty IOS game with 1-2 hour “eras” not a civ game where the play through is meant to take 5-16 hours.
That's not how you write"three".
To each their own, 3 was fun but 5 was what got me addicted, 6 is also polished and the most entry friendly and replayable of the games in my opinion.
My experience with Civ 5 was beating it on Deity with under 32 hours played. I haven't touched it in 13 and a half years, according to Steam.
That's not how you write "four".
Cool. Thanks for the breakdown
If you want a 4x game, and are OK with a fantasy setting instead of a historical one, I'd highly recommend Age of Wonders 4.
Thanks!
AoW4 is top notch but it’s not grand strategy. It’s more like what civ 7 semi tried to copy and failed miserably, which is almost aoe style maps with civ hubs to push faster gameplay versus that slow grind that civ is known for.
It's funny that when they don't like something in a game and you tell them it's just a game, they get all trigglypuff though. EDIT: This happened when SJWs were told the The Lord Of The Rings movies were just movies or just fantasy after they complained about everyone in them being white.
Exactly. Like when they complain that a game is “heteronormative”.
Endless Legend is probably the most unique "not-Civilization but still just Civilization." I enjoy a lot of its more wierd factions and its biggest weakness, combat, isn't much worse than Civs utterly braindead combat.
Its a little older, though the sequel is coming soon, but its also a solid entry point into the entire Endless Franchise which cross numerous genres you'll probably enjoy as well.
Sounds good. Thanks!
Age Of Wonders 4 is huge & very polished.
Master Of Magic (2022) is a remake of the classic (in 1994) that literally set the table for every game that followed. Looks good & is fun! Keeps the spirit of the old game, which is a very smart move.
Crusader Kings 3 is just gigantic & tons of depth to it.
There's others... Dominion?
Thanks!
The Master of Magic changes Rjak, a character who was canonically male in the original, to a they/them nonbinary, if that sort of thing is important to you.
While I definitely agree with that statement, I dont think I would include Paradox GSG's in a suggestion to Civ-like games. Because they play very different from one another.
Still, think it is great, and looking forward to the end of the year when they add China, Korea, and Japan as playable kingdoms. Add that with Victoria 3 having a ton of improvements and the very likely announcement of EU5 of Thursday, and Paradox is on a roll with me right now...except for HOI4, of all things (the recent DLC is kind of stretching it).
Full circle. We've reached the point where wokes think is a good thing to portray blacks as a horde of invaders and rapists
Nitter link
https://nitter.poast.org/TArchcast/status/1919127626947436715#m
And the trailer in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZx9XHdD5m4
nice of them to let everybody know to not bother buying the game well in advance.
We Wuz Khanz. EDIT: And sheet.
I appreciate them putting to rest the last defense Civ 7 had ("it'll be good once it gets all its expansions like 5/6 were!") as early as possible.
Not really. It's one of those commercials with the player as the avatar. There is also a white Mongol in the commercial as well. And at the end of the trailer, an actress tells you to make your own history. The in-game units are still proper Mongols.
There is a reason they showed a still frame and not the whole trailer. Watch the trailer
https://youtu.be/CZx9XHdD5m4?si=q0PvhmQ4EyVp3Jt4
It isn't a black mongol commercial. They are fighting for Pudding Town.
The player isn't the avatar at all. The black lady does it on behalf of the player.
At some point even normies have to see this as the deranged cult fetishism it is, right? No sane person can think its a good idea to put black people into literally everything.
I wonder if there are black people out there who are tired of this; being given credit where they didn't ask for it and they know deep down you don't deserve it. It's just gratuitous with these companies constantly injecting race into everything, putting them everywhere, clapping like seals at their own fetish, preaching "yes you DID take part in that, you're so special and important!"
It's embarrassingly disingenuous and patronizing - every company and media outlet offering endless dishonest praise and credit like they're some mentally disabled students who managed to perform some simple task without fucking up.
Well there were some Mongols with pretty dark skin... who looked NOTHING like this! 😣 Holy revisionism Batman! And is that supposed to be a female warrior to boot? Pretty sure there weren't any girls in the Mongol hordes...
Trump killed USAID but it will still take years before major Western game developers puke up all the remnants and start putting white women with big boobs and cool action sequences in games again.
Based on the context of the ad, I get that that might "be the joke". But this shit is so fucking tiresome I no longer care to discern the difference.
Looks like they going all out forcing nigger acceptance into Asians. I hope this backfires and makes them even more racists.