Old world is solid. Otherwise civ 5,6 are still the best options. The new “civ” (it’s not actually a civ game) decided to make leaders and cultures independent and also cultures change every time ”eras”. So Harriet Tubman (yes a civ “leader” in 7) could lead the mongols, it’s inherently stupid when they could have made multiple selectable leaders from each civ or just allow custom leaders and civs. They basically made a shitty IOS game with 1-2 hour “eras” not a civ game where the play through is meant to take 5-16 hours.
AoW4 is top notch but it’s not grand strategy. It’s more like what civ 7 semi tried to copy and failed miserably, which is almost aoe style maps with civ hubs to push faster gameplay versus that slow grind that civ is known for.
It's funny that when they don't like something in a game and you tell them it's just a game, they get all trigglypuff though. EDIT: This happened when SJWs were told the The Lord Of The Rings movies were just movies or just fantasy after they complained about everyone in them being white.
Endless Legend is probably the most unique "not-Civilization but still just Civilization." I enjoy a lot of its more wierd factions and its biggest weakness, combat, isn't much worse than Civs utterly braindead combat.
Its a little older, though the sequel is coming soon, but its also a solid entry point into the entire Endless Franchise which cross numerous genres you'll probably enjoy as well.
Age Of Wonders 4 is huge & very polished.
Master Of Magic (2022) is a remake of the classic (in 1994) that literally set the table for every game that followed. Looks good & is fun! Keeps the spirit of the old game, which is a very smart move.
Crusader Kings 3 is just gigantic & tons of depth to it.
There's others... Dominion?
The Master of Magic changes Rjak, a character who was canonically male in the original, to a they/them nonbinary, if that sort of thing is important to you.
Crusader Kings 3 is just gigantic & tons of depth to it.
While I definitely agree with that statement, I dont think I would include Paradox GSG's in a suggestion to Civ-like games. Because they play very different from one another.
Still, think it is great, and looking forward to the end of the year when they add China, Korea, and Japan as playable kingdoms. Add that with Victoria 3 having a ton of improvements and the very likely announcement of EU5 of Thursday, and Paradox is on a roll with me right now...except for HOI4, of all things (the recent DLC is kind of stretching it).
Are they even trying to make an excuse for it or will it be “it’s just a game”. I haven’t played civilization in a long time. Any good alternatives?
Old world is solid. Otherwise civ 5,6 are still the best options. The new “civ” (it’s not actually a civ game) decided to make leaders and cultures independent and also cultures change every time ”eras”. So Harriet Tubman (yes a civ “leader” in 7) could lead the mongols, it’s inherently stupid when they could have made multiple selectable leaders from each civ or just allow custom leaders and civs. They basically made a shitty IOS game with 1-2 hour “eras” not a civ game where the play through is meant to take 5-16 hours.
That's not how you write"three".
To each their own, 3 was fun but 5 was what got me addicted, 6 is also polished and the most entry friendly and replayable of the games in my opinion.
My experience with Civ 5 was beating it on Deity with under 32 hours played. I haven't touched it in 13 and a half years, according to Steam.
That's not how you write "four".
Cool. Thanks for the breakdown
If you want a 4x game, and are OK with a fantasy setting instead of a historical one, I'd highly recommend Age of Wonders 4.
Thanks!
AoW4 is top notch but it’s not grand strategy. It’s more like what civ 7 semi tried to copy and failed miserably, which is almost aoe style maps with civ hubs to push faster gameplay versus that slow grind that civ is known for.
It's funny that when they don't like something in a game and you tell them it's just a game, they get all trigglypuff though. EDIT: This happened when SJWs were told the The Lord Of The Rings movies were just movies or just fantasy after they complained about everyone in them being white.
Exactly. Like when they complain that a game is “heteronormative”.
Endless Legend is probably the most unique "not-Civilization but still just Civilization." I enjoy a lot of its more wierd factions and its biggest weakness, combat, isn't much worse than Civs utterly braindead combat.
Its a little older, though the sequel is coming soon, but its also a solid entry point into the entire Endless Franchise which cross numerous genres you'll probably enjoy as well.
Sounds good. Thanks!
Age Of Wonders 4 is huge & very polished.
Master Of Magic (2022) is a remake of the classic (in 1994) that literally set the table for every game that followed. Looks good & is fun! Keeps the spirit of the old game, which is a very smart move.
Crusader Kings 3 is just gigantic & tons of depth to it.
There's others... Dominion?
Thanks!
The Master of Magic changes Rjak, a character who was canonically male in the original, to a they/them nonbinary, if that sort of thing is important to you.
While I definitely agree with that statement, I dont think I would include Paradox GSG's in a suggestion to Civ-like games. Because they play very different from one another.
Still, think it is great, and looking forward to the end of the year when they add China, Korea, and Japan as playable kingdoms. Add that with Victoria 3 having a ton of improvements and the very likely announcement of EU5 of Thursday, and Paradox is on a roll with me right now...except for HOI4, of all things (the recent DLC is kind of stretching it).