Black fragility in action when you hear a 6 letter word and can’t help yourselves from lashing out like a violent chimp. How are we supposed to take them seriously? There are zero words out there that would immediately make me fly into rage and try to rip the other person’s head off because I’m not retarded and don’t risk my life over stupid shit
"The art which appears to combine two visual elements into a single phrase"
THAT MEANS IT CAME FROM YOU. YOU THOUGHT THAT AND ASSUMED THE WORST.
I didn't think it was the word retard when I saw that. The graffiti doesn't say retard it says hard. and there's a neon R a few feet away. You're going out of your way to be a retard about retard. Jesus Fucking Christ.
You've lost, so you're pissing and moaning at anything now. Pity, vengeful, and pathetic.
I don't know if it was a coincidence but what if this was intentional? Like you could imagine some teenager would actually do that kind of vandalism... paint HARD in front of a glowing R sign. THATS FUNNY. It's stupid but the fact that it's offensive makes it more funny. It's also realistic.
So in that sense it's literal censorship of ideas, watering down artistic expression to conform with contemporary norms.
From the same article, it turns out that it was unintentional. The R has the word shop under it. It's named after a character who owns the item shop nearby, where the red arrow is pointing.
The graffiti itself appears all over the place in the subway area along with various other english words, and just happened to line up right there. It was entirely unintentional.
Which means they had to go out of their way to be offended over something that was not intentional. That way of thinking and behaving has to be so fucking tiresome. Tilting at windmills.
It shows they don't have anything substantial to complain about and are grasping at straws to score any gotcha against the game. It's like all the lawfare against a former president.
"Hey, it looks like Trump's accountant forgot to use a decimal point here on one of his tax returns 10 years ago! We got him."
That's because built into a lot of regulations and laws are ideas the Founders had, one of which is the "debt jubilee." "At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts. And this is the form of the release: Every creditor who has lent anything to his neighbor shall release it; he shall not require it of his neighbor or his brother, because it is called the Lord’s release." (Deuteronomy 15:1-2)
So to support them because they weren't afraid of attractive characters or boycott them because they went ahead and caved and the most minor, invented bullshit - a choice which shows how weak they'll be against whining in the future?
Just kidding. It's a PS exclusive. Wasn't going to touch it anyway.
There's a State Farm commercial with a black dude trying to correct Arnold Schwarzenegger's lack of using hard R sounds. Am I to infer this is a dig at Arnie
Speaking of that commercial. Funny how it’s suddenly cool to make fun of an immigrant’s accent when that immigrant is a white guy. Imagine the reaction to a commercial making fun of a Haitian woman’s accent.
Even if this was an explicit reference to the term "Hard R" apparently even being in close interpretive proximity to the nigger word is enough for the kvetchetariat to rub their hands together in feigned outrage.
I can't wait for the day we can loudly and proudly just say nigger without people pitching a fit like it was some magical hex.
Also sidenote IGN's review gripe was characters are bland. They could very well be bland. But based on trends and all the bitching leading up to the game something tells me you wouldn't dare say that if she exactly the same except black and in a wheelchair. Or Abby. That's what being bias gets you, people questioning your reviews because they don't know if you're being earnest or praying on the altar of intersectionality.
Because they're not meant to be put together, they're disparate entities. I've got a lamp and a chess set on my den table, clearly they must be related to make up a greater subtle word term! No, it's just two random things near each-other.
Do you think the japanese developers were thinking of this? Does that warrant censorship because some fragile little NPCs are getting riled up by the perpetually offended?
Fuck that. This should be ignored by people like Sony, and those offended should be scoffed at for being so fucking stupid.
This isn't a racism thing. It's not even a thing at all, until those perpetually offended spoke up. Ideally, no attention would be given to this by anyone. But Sony is intervening, so shit like this gets a focus and dumbasses come along and say "well, it does look bad", but never really elaborates beyond a feeling of impropriety rather than anything malicious.
Stop expecting a sanitised world. This whole fucking SocJus shitshow arises from these expectations of sanitised environments. The internet was a bastion of community for all types until it gain mass accessibility in the late 2000s and suddenly everything needed to be scrubbed for normie sensibilities. And this isn't even leaning on conspiratorial aspects. This is hard reality, largely influenced by advertising, something that has lead this sanitisation effort FOR DECADES, if not well over a century at this point. Don't believe me? Here's Rod Fucking Serling talking about it in no unclear terms of EXACTLY that sterilisation of media in 1959.
This shit is a cancer. And until people at large, normies included, stop giving any credence to these sanitisation rituals of the media, nothing will change.
Do you think the japanese developers were thinking of this?
No, not necessarily. However, if you accidentally spell out something that would be offensive in another culture, it's probably best to remove it. It's not like the graffiti is essential to the game.
"Hard R" is a common term of expression that is rooted in a racist term. Accidental or not, it's better to remove it.
not like the graffiti is essential... That's some dramatic whining
Yes this isn't a big deal guys stop whining but obviously they just shoulda removed it gosh stop making everything a culture war bro it's just common sense bro!
It's not like the graffiti is essential to the game.
Irrelevant. Censorship is censorship. Especially when it's compliancy with the perpetually offended.
That's some dramatic whining lol
Yeah, calling ever growing censorship is the "dramatic whining". Let me guess, the Spanish language needs to change their word for black too, right? Or is that Different™ because it's not a white western culture?
This by itself is, as you're basing your entire point on, innocuous. Congrats, because I'm gonna say that you're right on that part. The issue is that it never stops with the innocuous. It never stops being just that one thing.
The more you kowtow to the perpetually offended, the more they will demand and the more momentum they gain. The only way to stop this is to actually fucking stop kowtowing.
And also, "hard r" is not a racist term. Nigger is a racist term. But "hard R" is nothing more than a description of the term, and an effort (and a poor one at that) to pretend there's a difference between nigger and nigga.
Just to make it clear here as well, you're unironically defending efforts at censorship to appease delicate sensibilities. That's what this is boiling down to. Is this really the hill you want to die on? Because I'm more than happy to die on the hill of Freedom of Speech.
Let me guess, the Spanish language needs to change their word for black too, right?
Nope, it's different because it's well understood the language that brought along this term which is pronounced differently and associated towards a color, and the history of the word negro as a terms towards black people.
It never stops being just that one thing.
Well, if people stop making other things, then it will eventually stop at that last thing.
But "hard R" is nothing more than a description of the term
Precisely. Hence why I said "rooted." Now you get it.
Because I'm more than happy to die on the hill of Freedom of Speech.
A game changing graffiti in a game has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is freedom from government persecution
Freedom of speech is freedom from government persecution
Fuck no. Absolutely not. Freedom of speech is a principle you choose to live by or not. A weapon against government persecution is only one important reason.
I don't think you fully get where the term comes from.
But if you think an inclusion of a bit of graffiti that isn't integral to the game , and was more than likely a bit of graphic that they just threw up on a wall without thinking about it, is some principle to live or die on, you've gotta sort out your priorities
But if you think an inclusion of a bit of graffiti that isn't integral to the game , and was more than likely a bit of graphic that they just threw up on a wall without thinking about it, is some principle to live or die on, you've gotta sort out your priorities
I was only correcting your false claim. My comment has nothing to do with this game or topic.
A game changing graffiti in a game has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is freedom from government persecution
Oh, you're one of those retards that doesn't understand the difference between the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech.
Let me give you a little walkthrough: The Amendments are there to PROTECT human rights, not grant them, and through this, this is how individuals can in fact deny another person their human rights. Is slavery a-ok so long as it's done by private entities? No? So why is the denial of free speech any different when done by private actors?
You're awfully determined to stand firm on "this game needs to change to protect the feelings of a very, very small minority group". It's almost impressive how stubborn you hold onto this if it weren't entirely the product of falsely being told from a young age that such a stance is noble.
Delicate sensibilities are meaningless. Stop defending censorship just because you find it irrelevant. If you need a logical fallacy term, it's the fallacy of relative privation. Just because there are worse forms of censorship doesn't negate that this is still censorship too.
So sorry that it is offensive! I had no idea. Which culture is that/what does the word mean? It benefits me to learn more so I can avoid using the term more consciously.
We give this much power to the word nigger when 'Basketball Americans' use it every 4th word?
Yeah, because they chimp out when anyone else does it
They chimp out at the ones that won't BURY them if they do.
Recent example is that Somali prick, notice how quickly he went quiet in Israel compared to Japan..
yes ... quite quiet ... very ...
Missed that one
Jesus I can’t wait for him to go to North Korea 🙏
They should be treated like animals when they behave like animals. Either learn to be civilized or be put down like a rabid dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofu70pSG-1A&ab_channel=27Smokez
Black fragility in action when you hear a 6 letter word and can’t help yourselves from lashing out like a violent chimp. How are we supposed to take them seriously? There are zero words out there that would immediately make me fly into rage and try to rip the other person’s head off because I’m not retarded and don’t risk my life over stupid shit
"The art which appears to combine two visual elements into a single phrase"
THAT MEANS IT CAME FROM YOU. YOU THOUGHT THAT AND ASSUMED THE WORST.
I didn't think it was the word retard when I saw that. The graffiti doesn't say retard it says hard. and there's a neon R a few feet away. You're going out of your way to be a retard about retard. Jesus Fucking Christ.
You've lost, so you're pissing and moaning at anything now. Pity, vengeful, and pathetic.
I don't know if it was a coincidence but what if this was intentional? Like you could imagine some teenager would actually do that kind of vandalism... paint HARD in front of a glowing R sign. THATS FUNNY. It's stupid but the fact that it's offensive makes it more funny. It's also realistic.
So in that sense it's literal censorship of ideas, watering down artistic expression to conform with contemporary norms.
From the same article, it turns out that it was unintentional. The R has the word shop under it. It's named after a character who owns the item shop nearby, where the red arrow is pointing.
The graffiti itself appears all over the place in the subway area along with various other english words, and just happened to line up right there. It was entirely unintentional.
Which means they had to go out of their way to be offended over something that was not intentional. That way of thinking and behaving has to be so fucking tiresome. Tilting at windmills.
It shows they don't have anything substantial to complain about and are grasping at straws to score any gotcha against the game. It's like all the lawfare against a former president.
"Hey, it looks like Trump's accountant forgot to use a decimal point here on one of his tax returns 10 years ago! We got him."
In all honesty, that is a gotcha ... but not admissable since the IRS only counts back 7 years. Oddly Biblical number ...
That's because built into a lot of regulations and laws are ideas the Founders had, one of which is the "debt jubilee." "At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts. And this is the form of the release: Every creditor who has lent anything to his neighbor shall release it; he shall not require it of his neighbor or his brother, because it is called the Lord’s release." (Deuteronomy 15:1-2)
Oh, I know the reference.... hence my noting of it.
Ah, good. Former teacher, it's a reflex. :P
Hard R doesn't mean retard
It's okay, they replaced the word hard with crime.
So now the slang really is what you thought it was.
In what way?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Crimer
Edit: This too. https://twitter.com/InsaneCope/status/1783296544751443982
Isn't this kind of proving my point lol
It can mean two things.
It doesn't mean one of them
"No censorship" though.
So much for that
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don’t think you should be banned for that.
Guess we all just have to try our best in clown world.
Guess you have a point there
Errbody calm down
Really?
SHHEEEEEEEEIIIT
Lookat dese fuggin raysis ass crackas, be completin da r werd fore a brotha can get a word in edgewise.
So to support them because they weren't afraid of attractive characters or boycott them because they went ahead and caved and the most minor, invented bullshit - a choice which shows how weak they'll be against whining in the future?
Just kidding. It's a PS exclusive. Wasn't going to touch it anyway.
It’ll probably come to steam in a couple of years.
They replaced it...with the word "crime." Coincidence?
There's a State Farm commercial with a black dude trying to correct Arnold Schwarzenegger's lack of using hard R sounds. Am I to infer this is a dig at Arnie
Speaking of that commercial. Funny how it’s suddenly cool to make fun of an immigrant’s accent when that immigrant is a white guy. Imagine the reaction to a commercial making fun of a Haitian woman’s accent.
Hard R, as in Retarded.
Journoids felt targetted.
Games journalists are by and large oxygen thieves.
Even if this was an explicit reference to the term "Hard R" apparently even being in close interpretive proximity to the nigger word is enough for the kvetchetariat to rub their hands together in feigned outrage.
I can't wait for the day we can loudly and proudly just say nigger without people pitching a fit like it was some magical hex.
Can blacks be any more fragile?
Another phrase that is verboten.
This is just a GTA joke in the wrong game.
No one tells them about Hard Off...
and Hard Gay
Also sidenote IGN's review gripe was characters are bland. They could very well be bland. But based on trends and all the bitching leading up to the game something tells me you wouldn't dare say that if she exactly the same except black and in a wheelchair. Or Abby. That's what being bias gets you, people questioning your reviews because they don't know if you're being earnest or praying on the altar of intersectionality.
Some day we can have fun with poor word placement again. Hopefully.
*munches on English muffin*
My sides have left the train station.
this is probably the gayest and pettiest thing i've ever seen tourists care about.
Alright Linus, calm the fuck down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFDiuBomSuY
that's like when they changed name of i believe a skin in COD called Izanami, as in japanese shinto goddess
why? read it backwards lmao
our guys
They caved and have already patched it out. This is why I haven't played a Sony title in years.
holy shit. its based as hell. they replaced "HARD" with "CRIME" lol. so it was either intentional or they chose the word crime out of spite.
Seems like a last ditch effort to seize control of a triple A game by the hive mind/ long house.
Most normal people will walk by and not even notice or put two together.
Because they're not meant to be put together, they're disparate entities. I've got a lamp and a chess set on my den table, clearly they must be related to make up a greater subtle word term! No, it's just two random things near each-other.
Maybe if they had graffiti under the "R" saying "Daddy" they'd have had a clear path out of this fabricated mess
Of course, they are going to forcefully sanitize this game into submission upon post-release.
Is there a term for this kind of mental illness?
liberalism
I mean...i'm not saying it's intentional, but it is a pretty clear reading and probably should have been spotted in the initial test plays.
Do you think the japanese developers were thinking of this? Does that warrant censorship because some fragile little NPCs are getting riled up by the perpetually offended?
Fuck that. This should be ignored by people like Sony, and those offended should be scoffed at for being so fucking stupid.
This isn't a racism thing. It's not even a thing at all, until those perpetually offended spoke up. Ideally, no attention would be given to this by anyone. But Sony is intervening, so shit like this gets a focus and dumbasses come along and say "well, it does look bad", but never really elaborates beyond a feeling of impropriety rather than anything malicious.
Stop expecting a sanitised world. This whole fucking SocJus shitshow arises from these expectations of sanitised environments. The internet was a bastion of community for all types until it gain mass accessibility in the late 2000s and suddenly everything needed to be scrubbed for normie sensibilities. And this isn't even leaning on conspiratorial aspects. This is hard reality, largely influenced by advertising, something that has lead this sanitisation effort FOR DECADES, if not well over a century at this point. Don't believe me? Here's Rod Fucking Serling talking about it in no unclear terms of EXACTLY that sterilisation of media in 1959.
This shit is a cancer. And until people at large, normies included, stop giving any credence to these sanitisation rituals of the media, nothing will change.
No, not necessarily. However, if you accidentally spell out something that would be offensive in another culture, it's probably best to remove it. It's not like the graffiti is essential to the game.
"Hard R" is a common term of expression that is rooted in a racist term. Accidental or not, it's better to remove it.
That's some dramatic whining lol
Not my culture.
Yes this isn't a big deal guys stop whining but obviously they just shoulda removed it gosh stop making everything a culture war bro it's just common sense bro!
Cool. Others though, sure. With some things, like the turn of phrase "Hard R," it's a bit of common sense, yeah
In my culture, your posts are offensive. It's probably best to remove all of them.
Nah, because my posts about my own thoughts are not the same as a mass produced/sold product.
Irrelevant. Censorship is censorship. Especially when it's compliancy with the perpetually offended.
Yeah, calling ever growing censorship is the "dramatic whining". Let me guess, the Spanish language needs to change their word for black too, right? Or is that Different™ because it's not a white western culture?
This by itself is, as you're basing your entire point on, innocuous. Congrats, because I'm gonna say that you're right on that part. The issue is that it never stops with the innocuous. It never stops being just that one thing.
The more you kowtow to the perpetually offended, the more they will demand and the more momentum they gain. The only way to stop this is to actually fucking stop kowtowing.
And also, "hard r" is not a racist term. Nigger is a racist term. But "hard R" is nothing more than a description of the term, and an effort (and a poor one at that) to pretend there's a difference between nigger and nigga.
Just to make it clear here as well, you're unironically defending efforts at censorship to appease delicate sensibilities. That's what this is boiling down to. Is this really the hill you want to die on? Because I'm more than happy to die on the hill of Freedom of Speech.
Nope, it's different because it's well understood the language that brought along this term which is pronounced differently and associated towards a color, and the history of the word negro as a terms towards black people.
Well, if people stop making other things, then it will eventually stop at that last thing.
Precisely. Hence why I said "rooted." Now you get it.
A game changing graffiti in a game has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is freedom from government persecution
Fuck no. Absolutely not. Freedom of speech is a principle you choose to live by or not. A weapon against government persecution is only one important reason.
I don't think you fully get where the term comes from.
But if you think an inclusion of a bit of graffiti that isn't integral to the game , and was more than likely a bit of graphic that they just threw up on a wall without thinking about it, is some principle to live or die on, you've gotta sort out your priorities
No, it's pretty clear that you don't understand that human rights are not privileges granted to you through the government. That's statist rhetoric.
I was only correcting your false claim. My comment has nothing to do with this game or topic.
Oh, you're one of those retards that doesn't understand the difference between the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech.
Let me give you a little walkthrough: The Amendments are there to PROTECT human rights, not grant them, and through this, this is how individuals can in fact deny another person their human rights. Is slavery a-ok so long as it's done by private entities? No? So why is the denial of free speech any different when done by private actors?
You're awfully determined to stand firm on "this game needs to change to protect the feelings of a very, very small minority group". It's almost impressive how stubborn you hold onto this if it weren't entirely the product of falsely being told from a young age that such a stance is noble.
Delicate sensibilities are meaningless. Stop defending censorship just because you find it irrelevant. If you need a logical fallacy term, it's the fallacy of relative privation. Just because there are worse forms of censorship doesn't negate that this is still censorship too.
Because it's not violating any human rights. It's a MASSIVE difference from slavery.
Freedom of speech is a human right. That you cannot understand that says a lot about what kind of person you are.
C*va is an offensive term in my culture. Please change your username.
So sorry that it is offensive! I had no idea. Which culture is that/what does the word mean? It benefits me to learn more so I can avoid using the term more consciously.