This isn’t a new concept to anyone here. But for the first time the left and right can look at the same video and observe two completely different things. Leftists unironically believe ICE extrajudicially executed a woman. New footage has emerged that clearly shows it was a justified shooting. This country is officially fucked in regards with relations between the left and right. A rift has formed between the two that will never close. Do you think we are in for BLM riots 2.0?
Side note: notice how the MSM will use the photo of the lady before she shaved her head and became a crazy leftist
Reddit and other extremist sites caused this division.
They spent 10 years segregating liberals from conservatives and banning conservatives from speaking.
In the past people would argue and realize different opinions existed.
Now open borders lesbians feel they are fighting the 2nd hitler by helping islamist invade the US
Damn, this explains the current situation perfectly.
I would argue universities and our education system got the brainwashing started first.
Social media was merely the fuel cast upon the flames.
Always was. Want a demonstration?
What is a woman?
You have been permanently banned from Reddit.
Unironically that is how I got permanently banned lol.
Same here.
To be more specific I told a troon that their parents would put their real name on their post suicide tombstone.
Fyi, in English, when the gender is indeterminate, the proper pronouns to use are "it" and "its".
That's hilarious and also I appreciate that you're the only other person I've seen used the term troon.
It's fairly common around here.
Same, but only from 'official' polish subreddit.
Funny how every national subplebbit doesn't reflect the views of that country
Even my blue-collar, redneck hometown looks like libshit central if you only browse the subreddit.
I was banned for bullying a self professed pedophile who wouldn't leave mod mail. My years of antagonizing the admins probably didn't help either lol
I got permabanned for simply saying the word "tranny" and this was a long time ago
I said "men are not women" on reddit
Same. Although in my case, I may have elaborated a bit more, and said something along the lines of: "[transexuals] are repulsive abominations that will never become anything more than poor facsimiles of the other sex, which they will never be".
For some reason, it seems some admins got offended by that. Given 2 temporary bans of varying length on separate occasions, never accompanied with a reason or any reference to what I could have done that they considered objectionable, then was given a permaban shortly after, when I said the same thing again.
Still permabanned 5 years later.
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The left have always been experts at ignoring facts. It didn't start with showing pictures of a 13 year-old Trayvon Martin (on the right is a selfie he took a week before the shooting, available to Media but of course never used) but that was perhaps the most grievous example. Now that's the Media standard. :/
Her recent pics do exist but it seems it takes the UK Tabloids to print them :/
You know what stood out to me? How even the small crowd they were all women. When they say the future is female, I fear we are seeing the beginning of that. Gynocentric policies that hold no one responsible for their actions but white men.
They can ignore reality, but they can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. As the true tax base shrinks in lockstep with the only productive demographic in the country - white men - the fraud and grift and makework will eventually arrive at insolvency. You can't squeeze blood from a stone. The interesting questions are: what does the collapse look like, and what happens next?
We're already past insolvency. That's why we're in a massive annual deficit, and print infinity money. As the gap widens, the ability to recover shrinks. And we are likely already past the point of the possibility of recovery.
My theory on your last question is that we slowly turn into Brazil while our military reach slowly shrinks. China and Russia replace us, and their economies eventually flourish.
Shit is really going to hit the fan once the interest on the debt outpaces our GDP.
Once that happens law and order is going to break down in a way we haven't seen in this country.
And unlike in the prohibition era, or the wild west, or any other violent era in the history of the USA, we whites aren't +90% of the population anymore. We are barely half. If we don't start collectivizing and forming networks that don't rely on electricity, we are going to get picked off in the ensuing chaos.
Unless us whites start breeding like rabbits, we are in trouble.
White men don't have the balls to make our women submissive mothers. That's why we are being outbreed by Africans and Muslims that have a culture of making women submit. Asians and Whites fell for gender equality, then our birthrates imploded.
I’m butchering the quote but it goes something like this: “You begin to understand why for all of human history women have been subjected by men. If you don’t, society falls apart”. But yea, not being afraid of offending women is like Step Zero of fixing our problems.
White men have let too many other white men become soyboys even on the "right." Most of the groypers are fat or scrawny and they're supposed to the new totally based right
There's no communal shame because there is no community. Whites lost their cliques.
It’s not Muslims, at least not in the west. It’s jeets and sub-Saharan Africans.
For damn sure. The nons are coming straight for our neighborhoods the minute the gibs get cut off. For whatever reason.
Russia's wont replace us and we are going to war with China in the next 5 years
Do you think our empire will last once we're at 30 percent whites?Roughly around the 2050s. This is accounting for actual whites, not the fake version now, which estimates we'll be at 50% white in 2045. That figure includes a ton of non-whites. We won't have the means to maintain an empire. Russia and China will still be homogeneous, with massive land mass and widespread global military positioning.
But yeah, we'll be at war with China in another proxy war, probably in the MENA region this time. But, inevitably, China will continue to expand into Africa, as we continue to shrink. We just lost Niger, and we'll continue to lose more. Eastern Europe/CIS will be doing great without mass third world migration.
point taken. I do believe that "demographics is destiny"
Rome was 7% Latin when it ended.
That's interesting. Was that taking into consideration the population of controlled territories, or was that just the city of Rome? Or something else in between?
Edit to add: that doesn't give me much confidence, regardless, because the non-Latin population would have been predominantly white. I wonder what the total non-white population was.
Russia isn't homogenous.
It's like 97% white. I understand they're different ethnic groups, but there are very few browns there.
browns arent simply africans
China will get old before it gets rich.
Russia will disappear before they get great.
Who do you think replaces the US once we become Zimbabwe? If you had to guess a few different options.
Probably India. Both Russia and China are demographic time bombs.
Gross. I hope for the sake of the smell of the planet, you're wrong.
I'll be the guy to toe the neo-con-lin guy. Russia won't replace us. China won't replace us. Maybe they'll grow their militaries, but there are a lot of qualifiers to what led to US dominance and our military is just one of them. We had fuck you military, fuck you tech, fuck you geography, fuck you agricultural self sufficiency, and fuck you money. If you thought US fiat was fake holy shit is the Chinese currency. And as much as we should keep an eye on it, currently Chinese military tech is a paper tiger. The US would steamroll China is a direct confrontation - that's why China is 1) so desperate and 2) so subversive
Russia has fuck you geography and that's it. They also have an AIDS and alcoholism and birthrate crisis.
I agree with all of that, but we also had fuck you demographics when all of this was being created. It can be maintained for a while, but not indefinitely. At some point, we won't have enough whites left to maintain it, like what's happening to South Africa, and already happened to Rhodesia.
The only reason I guess that it would be China or Russia to replace us, is because they are homogeneous superpowers with large land mass and population. Which applies to India, but jeets are too retarded to maintain an empire.
Curiously this is also solved by the fix everything button.
Just remove all browns.
Really illustrative that all these harpies don't fear the threat of violence until it actually happens.
They are smugly chiding ICE agents in full military kit at arm's length. Then screaming "Don't Touch Me" while resisting lawful orders when the Dildo of Consequences comes inevitably calling.
I agree. Most of them are not brave. (some commies understand power and the 2A) They genuinely believe they are untouchable for a reason.
Why would they have any reason to be afraid of consequences?
and yet you support the cops that protect them from that and the police brutality that gives them an excuse to demand police go soft on real criminals but not ordinary people.
Fuck off.
What a gay response
Think about the ramifications of this for criminal trials where one side relies on witness testimony as evidence for their case.
Really internalize this, so when you serve as a juror you know how to properly consider testimony by witnesses.
This is why "intent" is completely meaningless in this low-trust hellscape. All evidence must be emperical. No consideration should ever be given to the subjective self-reported feelings of anyone. Because everyone is lying in order to destroy the other.
It has been this way for a while. Kyle Rittenhouse is probably an even more extreme example and it dropped almost half a decade before this.
The other thing with Rittenhouse is that his vindication in court changed zero hearts & minds on the left.
Probably the most well-documented self-defense case ever. And the TDS fags still hold on to all their Day 1 fake news narratives.
The video alone should have been enough.
The rap sheet of the convicts who attacked him should have been enough.
It's never enough.
Its never enough because they dont care about justice or whats right, they only care about their feelings
Remember when a large plurality of democrats thought half of all people with covid ended up in the hospital?
Not just dems, plenty of neo conservatives got Mass Formation Psychosis
Scott Adams, even though he's had his moments, is right about what's going on. The left and the right-- more accurately the collectivists and the individualists-- are watching the same screen and seeing two different movies. It's what Orwell talked about when he discussed "bellyfeel", "crimethink", and "duckspeak". A member of the Party has to be able to feel what is correct, refuse to let false thoughts into their head, and speak without conveying ideas.
Close but they're not even watching the same screen. Their movie is highly curated and framed, they're not looking at any video other than fits the narrative.
The problem is leftists are exposed to only a certain set of facts from sources they trust and since they trust their media it allows them to discount any other facts they might get exposed to.
For example, in the ICE incident NPR described her as "sitting in her car".
She was sitting in her car - fact. She also tries to run over an ICE agent - fact - but when you point that out they think "well NPR didn't say that and I trust NPR more than you so you're a nazi and always wrong about everything".
Ironically that just makes them trust NPR even more.
She was also "sitting in her car", stopped perpendicular blocking an arterial road and purposely impeding federal agents in the act of carrying out their duties. Conspiring with others & crossing state lines from 350 miles away.
I don't like Scott's "one screen, two movies" metaphor. It implies that leftists are operating in good faith, that they are telling the truth about what they see, or that we are even seeing the same thing.
They act like a four year old with a cookie in one hand and a jar lid in the other hand saying "I didn't take the cookie from the jar!" while stomping their feet. Or like a criminal watching themselves in security camera footage saying "No, I didn't do that. Wasn't me."
To be doing that as an adult can only mean they're low IQ, brainwashed, emotional beyond the capability of rational thought, hyperdefensive; or several of those things combined.
There was a time when I would have cared about what they think and what might happen if they continue to escalate their rhetoric and violence.
That time has come and gone and now I hope we get this shit over with.
Accelerate
Agree.
I’m not familiar with Babylon five I have to look into that
The writer made several amazing shows, including Captain Powers.
J Michael Straczynski is a pretty amazing writer. He wrote for a lot of tv, everything from "Murder, She Wrote" to "Sense8"
I have a lot of nostalgia bias but he was the driving force that made The Real Ghostbusters (the 80's cartoon) so much better than your average Saturday morning cartoon.
He was lead story editor and primary writer for many classic episodes and fought against the corporate bullshit trying to censor the show to make it less dark and more lighthearted.
When he was involved the show was genuinely dark and complex and it was so much better for it. I appreciate him a lot.
He's making a new Babylon 5 I hear.
He also wrote Clockwork Angels and Dream Cops. Those are some favorite comics.
What a gay response
Karl Marx's ideals will only work in a parallel universe where everyone has no individuality, so there's that.
Leftists have no morals, ultimately. Death = death, with no comparison of what brought them about. Charlie being killed and the memes afterward are viewed as exactly equivalent to the memes being made about this woman now and the argument that she deserved it.
It's why they try to call the Right hypocrites for supporting war, killing criminals breaking into your house, or the death penalty, but opposing abortion. They have no conception of the quality of the situation, just that it can be described as "death." It's why all their "In this house we believe" signs work so well among them. There is zero qualitative distinction behind those phrases. Good idea = good, no complexity.
The first time?
Do you remember Kyle Rittenhouse?
Do you remember George Floyd?
We had videos of those and leftists still lied and gaslit themselves into delusion.
Do you remember Michael Brown
What a gay response
The old footage already showed it was justified
True.
The new footage mostly revealed how smug, inciting, rude & deliberate the deceased was until the very end.
There was no "panic" here as initially alleged from the rear views.
Her attempt to flee after being given direct lawful orders & communicating back is more apparent in the new clip, just seconds after continuing her shitlib goading.
If you doubted what happened or thought the ICE guy was in the wrong for 1 second you are not going to make it.
From the comments I'm seeing on X, the new excuse is, "she's turning the wheel! Obviously she's not trying to hit him!"
So yes, same video, they're convinced that it proves the opposite. Because these people have never been in a situation where split-second decisions matter, and their Monday-morning-quarterbacking of slowed down frame-by-frame video is exactly the same thing as someone with a crazy person in a car gunning their engine at you.
Even if the wheel direction shit were true, it's meaningless. You can barely see a car's wheels from the front, let alone from that close. She could see him far more clearly than he could see her wheels.
There's more than one shooting right now. But, one of them, the ICE officer said he wasn't aiming where the woman got hit. The bullet changed course when it went through the glass.
I was arguing with leftists on a tiktok video of that lady hitting the cop, and they're all literally denying that it happened. On the video itself. Where it's extremely clearly visible. So either they live in a different reality or are bald faced lying. I'm sure it's a mixture of both.
The cop being hit doesn't even matter in the end (though I do agree it did happen).
Her accelerating away unlawfully in such close proximity gives the officers enough reasonable fear that they were about to get trucked. Contact doesn't actually have to be made,
It's both. Lots of people in this thread are convinced that most leftists are purposefully lying. As you and I have experienced, they literally don't see what we see.
The craziest part is the complete inability to talk any sense into those ones. I probably should stop wasting my energy tbh.
Don't waste too much time, but ive been able to slowly "pull the wool" away from some leftists eyes. I wouldn't say ive "converted" anyone but ive had good luck teaching liberals about the importance of the peasants owning and carrying guns (2A)
“This country is officially fucked in regards with relations between the left and right. A rift has formed between the two that will never close.“
Unfortunately I see basically nobody talking about why this is happening. Is it just a totally organic hatred that grew by itself? No I don’t think so.
Imo it was planned years ago and the powers that be are simply gleeful that it’s going so well. Keep us fighting each other, keep us distracted so they can continue to rape the system for money and power. Although it started long ago, the ramp up occurred around 2010 after they squashed the occupy Wall Street movement.
But this topic probably deserves its own thread
I concur. The only silver lining is that in 2025 "white people woke up and stopped being afraid of being called racists etc" ...whether we will actually do anything is something else.
I think this has been the status quo for decades now. How much more delusional can you get by saying "women are oppressed and men are oppressors" in western society? Yet, this is the prevailing doctrine taught to our children in schools and colleges.
Neither left nor right challenges this delusion and allow it to continue to this very day. Suddenly we're surprised this reality denying mentality suddenly encroaches into other areas?
They're still 'debunking' the Waco thing while claiming it has already been. Then flash forward to Kenosha....yeah, I don't have time for their BS anymore.
Waco was whacko.
Scott Adams already pointed out: "one screen, two movies". This is the most literal definition of that.
That's not my problem.
My problem is that the hyper-reality that these middle-class white women live in is so fucking divorced from any basis of reality they are literally impossible to communicate with. How do you de-radicalize someone when every major cultural, political, scientific, academic, and economic institution in the country is grooming people into being school shooters by promoting the normalization of cluster B personality disorders, and psychological abuse tactics, as marketing and influence?
I don't fucking know. We have to basically just move past them and recognize we're going to get hurt doing so, and that they'll destroy themselves anyway. 40% of Millenial women are probably going to end up in their 60's, and will be the most violently hysterical demographic in history.
It's fucking nuts talking to Lefty's that are still in my orbit... because even they don't know what the Left is doing. I was told I was a conspiracy theorist when I explained to one of them that the Left disincentivizes private car ownership to promote the use of public transport systems that they develop and monetize. "That's fucking insane. Literally no one has ever done that." Mentioning 15 Minute Cities, the NYC traffic congestion system, environmental regulation, profit incentive for government programs, and all of the Left's own policies means nothing to them. It doesn't even register.
The cognitive dissonance is severe. It's the same reason these people can say that the Left never engages in violence, while celebrating it. It's not always just lies, they literally wouldn't accept that hitting someone with a bike lock is violent if the person who gets hit is right-wing.
There's basically nothing we can do for them except win and put them in the asylums to live out the rest of their days working on their psychology. Curtis Yarvin claimed we need to "actually own the libs" and that we need a strategy for that. I don't think we can. These people are wild animals. We can't just live with wolves all day. We have to for now, but if we win, we have to basically just keep them in asylums before they kill more people. We're already dealing with 40-50 year old women screaming "I wish I was aborted!", ramming ICE agents, and cheering for assassinations; it's not going to get better and there's basically nothing we can do for them anyway.
Honestly, marrying younger women and basically giving them the psychological security and stoicism they need to be resistant to glowfag grooming is the best we can do. The left-over women are ticking time bombs.
No, not really. This whole thing is a distraction to radicalize support for Walz and the Minneapolis mayor. It's a very common Communist tactic. The Communists actually used to attack their own moderates to radicalize more people into violence. In this case, they kept their hands clean and radicalized crazy white women into getting killed: "ICE has no right to arrest, detain, or even ask me questions because I'm an American citizen. If they touch me, it's kidnaping and battery so I can just use whatever force I feel like."
Vance's action of appointing the equivalent of a special prosecutor / Deputy AG is a good idea. Violence shouldn't be the Right's goal here. Hitting Walz and the Minnesota state government should be. Ignore the protests and proceed with RICO charges.
Meanwhile, the Left need to keep pushing bold faced lies to create a vibe shift towards their favor. "Attempting to kill ICE agents is the ICE agents fault! Police presence causes crime!" it's been working a little because the right's messaging is completely bogged down in internal fighting (another Leftist trap), and not openly rejecting Leftist narrative setting.
Our narrative needs to be: Welfare is a Democrat Immigration Racket.
Vance was right when he was on Tucker and said the most dangerous demographic/biggest threat are childless cat women.
No, that’d be blacks and jews. It’s not even close.
I get why he apologized, but he shouldn't have.
I read all that. You need to laugh. This shooting has proven all those ," lets use our white privilege " videos to be a lie.
No no, it proved them true. They've been ordering white people to die for them since 2012. This goes all the way back to shit like the Evergreen crisis where white people were ordered to stand in front of the police and block them to protect black people.
It's a sick sad world.
Been like that for at least a decade. Were you not paying attention?
We did that with fentayl floyd and january 6 as well.
Start at 1:45 or just watch the whole thing. This video discusses the issue. Key part is at 2:50, but you'll need the context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI&t=286s
The split was centuries ago. Robespierre and the Jacobins were every bit as crazy as modern leftists, they just hadn't developed their techniques as much as modern leftists have. It was easier to coexist with them some of the time but the fundamental insanity never goes away.
On a side note, the way Robespierre screwed himself in the end is kinda funny. Democracy/Mob Rule caught up with him.
Huh? What do you mean? I could never be hoisted by my own petard.
Damn, 2014 is turning out to be a crazy year!
I don't believe leftists say it because they actually believe it, they say it because they have made themselves the propaganda wing of the terrorist wing. They're no different than the Muslims who deliberately misrepresented some pig-calling competition as mockery of Mohammad to get blasphemers murdered.
Heh.
No this shit has happened many times in the 20th century alone. I think in the 30's or 40's it was the US Air Force bombed protesting civilians in a city.
You have to recognize the world we are living in is undergoing the most sophisticated, best funded, globally organized propaganda operation ever to exist in human history.
They wouldn't take the time and spend the resources to do this if it didn't fucking work.
I'm as far right as it get and she was executed. The system will do the exact thing to rightoids and they will screetch exactly like the left is doing atm. Rightoids will see their guy turning away from the stooge and see him aim his firearm at the passenger window, which is weird if he was running him over, and execute the guy. The left will then say it was justified, even though our guy was shot trough the passenger window while turning away from the guy at 3mph.
No one cares about the truth anymore, but that isn't the saddest part. The saddest part is people justifying this shooting just because it happened to a faggot shitlib woman, which she was because weak men have ruled for way too many years. They are so emotionally invested in this they cannot see they are ok with the state executing their friends and family. But when that happens they will say it was unjustified, no matter what the video evidence tells them.
Or maybe it is an Americahe hit him so hard he kept stadning up and managed to shot her through then thing. They are so traumatized by militarized police killing people without it being necessary, like someone with Stockholm syndrome. Or perhaps it isn't trauma, it is just normalized.
Most people here are like the leftist during the Rittenhouse case. Not a single true man of the true right. Just a bunch of modern, materialist, universalist leftists. Lib caps, com marx; you are all a bunch of faggot leftists that must be oppressed.
And no, the new footage does not support an execution. It's just the same lying, drivel as before.
No one needs replying to this, I'm not going to bother conversing with a bunch of weak faggot liars. I just want to vent. The only thing that can save us is the far, far extreme right severely oppressing you untermensch(that is 99% of the "right" and your siblings on the left). You have no business voting, or ruling over the strong and virtuous. Lying sacks of shit.
Lol
The left and right narratives are getting farther apart.
The narrative as broadcast to you by the news and the actual truth are two different things.
They're going to try to start the riots; however, it's fucking January. So you're going to end up with something quite different.
Site note: notice how the MSM is always wrong? why bother citing it at this point unless you're trying to flog their narratives for them?
As long as millions still watch and believe MSM it matters
People don't believe the MSM.
Who told you that?
The MSM?
kek. You're the only one giving them credibility. You don't sense the trap you're in?
I don’t like saying this but you obviously don’t know a whole lot of “normies”. Yes, trust in the media is at an all time low but you have to remember that most people 60 and over never have watched alternative media in their lives
Normies just lie about themselves. You think they're honest about what they actually believe and do? They just understand that doing so is punishment in this system. Why else do you think the media engages in humiliation rituals? It's to keep them in line.
Put a little bit of pressure on them and you'll see that facade break instantly.
I don't like saying this but you obviously have spent a lot of time being comfortable.