It started with younger millennials. Boomers couldn’t actually make an argument for work quality being different so they started using terms like “anti-social behavior” and “doesn’t integrate with company culture”, you can guess who created those terms.
You speak sone truth for sure but I’ve had to work with and supervise young people and I can see a difference although I’ve been told that since I was in the military I have “rigid military expectations”. But inflation is hitting young people like crazy as well and unfettered immigration
It’s something I noticed in the military, guys who actually did work started getting out early because they were passed up on advancement for lazy/ mediocre workers who fit a “profile” (this ran from DEI to semi attractive women getting early promoted). Turns out when you bureaucratize hiring and flatten pay instead of promoting hard work you get mass burnout. When I got out I thought it would be just the military but it hit the private sector hard while I was in.
Gen z is only willing to do the bare minimum because they haven’t seen return on work like many of us did when we were younger. Hell I picked a niche because I would have walked if I was stuck in a corporate job or average white collar job today. We’re in a fake economy by every definition and it shows when you have 4 admin positions for every actual worker.
Good points. I did see that a little bit in the Air Force. My parents drilled into my head about working hard and even if I’m pushing a mop I better do the best job possible. True there are some lazy and lefty Gen z but there are definitely some issues to address as well
The core trade, construction, got hit hard with tons of Mexican laborers decades ago, starting back in the 70s and 80s. It's just that a lot of poorer White men still practice the trade despite the massive depression in wages of the industry, because of the cheap foreign labor. Also, most Mexican construction workers are shit, their quality is shit, and they leave trash everywhere, which enables White construction workers and carpenters to offer better service and quality, leaving a niche for that demand.
Funnily enough I saw a report somewhere that older houses were selling for higher than new houses and the main reason was new homes are now needing another 10k plus in rework because of rushed builds.
Mexicans are fucking lazy and arrogant little swine by and large in the trade industry.
I'm a welder, and the amount of trash, undercut, disgusting looking cat shit I've seen passed off as a weld from the Mexicans I work with is appalling. I work in custom high end stainless for consumers. Not at the local bus barn.
And guess what? Management/supervisors are too scared to say something about it. Either because "muh racist" card, or because the beaners work fast (which is why their shit looks like shit, fast work at the expense of quality) they just pass it off and expect others to deal with it. I get told to fix it later in finishing if any of it comes my way. I've begun to just leave it as is, because I know it'll come to a head at some point. I'll be telling them to make those beaners do it right the first time because I won't cover them. They can fire me, let it slide, or make them do it right.
Already got a job offer at a place I know doesn't have Mexicans. They're sloppy shitters that get by on "working fast" and as you say, that'll pass in some jobs and for some bosses, but the rest of us ain't dealing with it
Dude, if you don't think there's no argument for work quality being different, I can only assume that you've never had to hire anyone under 30.
Are all of Gen Z lazy entitled fucks? No. Is Gen Z disproportionately lazy and entitled? Absolutely.
And no, I'm not making the argument that if they work hard just like their parents did everything will work out just the same. These are completely separate issues.
I’m a younger millennial, I can assure you the quality drop off was entirely due to DEI hiring practices and make work policies. When 5 people are doing 20 people’s jobs while the other 15 are holding meetings and writing pointless emails for the same pay you get what you hired. Gen zs quality is because they want to be held to the same standards as the DEI make work hires.
DEI is terrible but it's mainly an issue in corporate environments.
The work ethic is also terrible in typical first-job situations. Restaurants, grocery stores, etc. And it's also terrible in nearly 100% white areas (though much better in rural white areas). That's not due to DEI.
No disagreement there. I've had a couple of Indian coworkers on separate occasions who were fine but they were the only Indian dudes in the office, and they were also U.S. born. Any other environment with 2 or more of them has been terrible.
The issue is that there is no reason to work hard if the rewards don't match the effort. Gem Z is just making the smart choice given the state of the world today.
I think it started earlier than that, with Gen X’ers. I’m pretty sure Boomers faced the same stigma when they were young, but it is easier to remember the millennials getting shit on because it was all via online news articles.
Gen x and boomers were never part of the mass immigration movement taking over their jobs. You could argue the blue collar gen x and boomers got hit by outsourcing but H1Bs didn’t start until 1990 and didnt blow up until 2005. Same with offshoring of white collar jobs.
Au contraire, boomers and gen x were the first ones to see their jobs destroyed. The offshore movement of manufacturing started in the 1980s, and that hit boomers, and overlapped into gen x. The working class boomers and early gen x were hit very hard. Not a few of them are now dead as a direct result of this due to suicide and drug addiction.
You can go back even further, to the 1970's. Look up the "Rust Belt" of America. That's when all those single-income factory jobs were destroyed because the owners could save a few pennies pulling up stakes and moving the entire company overseas. Company owners got to have their sweatshops while America switched from a manufacturing nation to a retail nation.
This deepened the rot of feminism because oops retail doesn't pay nearly as well, so it increased the demand for two-income households, which meant fewer stay at home moms to properly raise the kids, etc.
Au contraire, boomers and gen x were the first ones to see their jobs destroyed. The offshore movement of manufacturing started in the 1980s, and that hit boomers, and overlapped into gen x.
Yes and even despite all that, boomers have the largest share of national wealth ever seen in the history of western society.
The working class boomers and early gen x were hit very hard.
Sure 2 million manufacturing jobs lost between 1980-2000 and 5.5 between 2000 and 2018. That’s what 7.5 million? There’s 32 million immigrants employed in the US as of 2024. That’s over 10 million more than in 2010. This of course doesn’t include the mass offshoring of white collar jobs and the DEI hiring practices either.
Not a few of them are now dead as a direct result of this due to suicide and drug addiction.
And it’s about half the rate that millennials and gen z have.
Boomers in customer service dealt with their peers and neighbors.
Gen Z in customer service deal with demanding and "diverse" customers who can barely speak the language.
I don't blame Gen-Z. Why should they be expected to be upbeat faced with that?
Or Gen-Z is made up of those people who don't care about anyone but their in-group.
These kind of articles are funny to me, because I’m 100% sure that millennials have been doing the same shit and Gen X’ers and Boomers would be the same exact way as Gen Z given the circumstances.
It’s kind of weird how everyone just conveniently forgets how much their own generation was shit on for being lazy and unprofessional and instead just perpetuates this cycle which I am 100% sure was used to justify the outsourcing of labor and the use of visa programs this whole time.
Hey, retard, his point was that IF you were in the current generation, YES YOU WOULD. Your cultural milieu is different from GenZ and your lack of ability to understand that shows just how little your understanding of the world it.
No, this is different. And no, each generation being lazy and unprofessional is a new feature. In fact, the very concept of "generational differences' is a new concept. Most populations in history don't notice any significant generational differences in society. It's the same reason "feminization of men/society" isn't talked about in previous epochs either.
There is something wrong. Each generation is getting lazier, crazier, less disciplined, and more degenerate. The Zoomers are basically the first one to have a major shift so early on because of the full spectrum dominance of Leftist power structures, and early Millennial dissent against the same.
It's more accurate to say each generation claims all the same attitudes, but that's not really true either. The Boomers were really the first generation to truly reject society and claim total independence en masse because they had understood "the system". Each generation has claimed greater grievance and been more resentful and cynical than the last, even Gen X. Now, we have the most resentful, cynical, unhinged society ever.
The last people who ever actually trusted their institutions were the "Greatest Generation", because they'd basically all served with each other in the War, and were raised in real suffering by parents who went through WW1 and the Great Depression.
Just because we see a pattern of generational conflict under the Boomer Truth Regime, doesn't mean you can back-date that problem a thousand years, or even 100.
Some of it. Indians brag about how they're better then white people, how everything would collapse without them etc. It's all justification on replacing with infinite pajeets.
Non-pajeet management will often say the same thing because they need to justify their actions of outsourcing and replacing jobs with Indians.
I'm at the border between X and Millennial and I'm completely demotivated. I've seen entire teams, good hard working teams with great results being replaced entirely by Indians. Imagine spending your off hours working for a company while neglecting your family just so management can replace you without a second thought because they want to reduce cost.
I have friends that have started putting in minimum work and started working on side-projects for extra cash. Funny part is that minimum work is still a lot more then what most Indians put out.
I can only assume that seeing this as Gen Z would be completely demoralizing.
Like most generational hate, its partially true and partially not.
Plenty of Gen Z were happy to be the youthful footsoldiers of the Woke for years, until uh oh they had to move out, get a job, and pay taxes while dealing with the consequences of all that finally coming home to roost. Now they are in a schism of those who grow up and out of that (while mostly dodging any accountability), while others triple down into it and push even harder.
The only unique thing here, since that is basically every generation prior, is that the Woke and the Leftist Insanity happened during their era. Sure it was brewing and being pushed by Millenials hard (and had been undercurrenting for decades prior), but it finally "exploded" right on their plate, at the age when most of them were perfect marks for it.
So its really just terrible timing for them, because they will forever be associated with that simply because it happened during their teens-20s.
If you're have to deal with immigrants and/or Muslim communities, there are some guys who are complete and utter spazzes and can't handle it. I suspect a company would be 'not racist' but just asking every man looking to get hired the question and not just the brown guys.
There's something to that. The boomers will have to get out of these positions. In general they just treat people like shit that aren't other boomers. You are their doormat and their piggy bank, and you better fucking like it. The bad part of the change is that, in the corporate world at least, what they've left as their legacy is DEI replacements.
A lot Gen Z isn't that bad if you interact with them well. They have a sixth sense for catching on if you're secretly judging them or writing them off as weird though. Don't do that, even if you think what they are into is weird who cares. Treat them like peers and you might be surprised. A huge chunk of the white guy Gen Z group is totally on to the scam that is wokeness too.
Well, that’s probably not far from accurate, but let’s not pretend there isn’t an effort to make sure Gen Z and A are as mindfucked and as useless as possible when it comes to real world skills. Schools are lowering standards across the board which could be explained by DEI, but the reality is that it’s a deliberate dumbing down of society, plus they’re also changing things like simple math through common core, they’re warping history, they’re changing definitions of various words, they’re just getting rid of logic so the next generation doesn't even try to comprehend why everything is so insanely irrational, let alone try to make the world sane again since all they’ve ever known is a world that doesn’t make sense, a world without rationality or logic. Gen Z and A have been socially engineered to seek out immediate gratification thanks to their constant interaction with social media and the internet in general, where they can get porn, games, likes, retarded 39 second long TikTok content, they can get almost anything they want without leaving their house, so they don’t learn to be independent, or strive to achieve any wholesome goals whether they be career related or regarding marriage and family building because they don’t know a thing about putting in a longterm effort and dealing with some level of longterm hardship to attain those wholesome goals, making those goals seem impossible to achieve. Not to mention, their millennial parents are just as addicted to social media and internet as they are whenever their parents are outside of work, so the parents aren’t raising their children as they should be in a vast majority of cases, shit, they put an iPad in their kids hands from the moment that kid could hold the damn thing just so the parents could feed their internet addiction. Plus Gen Z abd A are looking at a future world where there is no hope to own a house, or ever have a high paying job that they can live a decent life with, as they watch Ai and automation rapidly take over all sorts of careers, so even if they get a shitty job they’re like “why TF should I work hard when I’m pretty much fucked no matter what I do?”. They’re not wrong to think that, so I get why Gen Z doesn’t exactly have the strongest work ethic, but we have to realize, this economic situation is what our (((government))) intentionally created because they know it will lead kids to beg government to be their new parents, so Gov can take care of all of their needs/wants. A reliant people is a compliant people. If the kids don’t have any real world skills, if they can’t drive, if they rely on a government UBI and technology to satisfy all of their needs, our (((government))) can dictate the terms of access for EVERYONE who needs access to their funds and tech, meaning you WILL behave however they tell you to behave or else you are fucked. Plus, you won’t have the skills a homeless person has nowadays to survive outside of the system in the cold without money for food, so it’s a death sentence if you don’t comply.
Every generation goes through their youth when the older generations call them lazy pieces of shit when likely the older generations were much lazier and bigger pieces of shit when they were young.
Except there was no youthful rebellion stage for millenials. They went right from underage kids to finger wagging shushing scolds that reported everyone. Since generations usually turn out directly opposed the the generation before them (Boomers were the establishment/Gen X became anti establishment/millenials happily wore their brand preferences on their body in tattoos and social media) Gen Z is turning out to be everything millenials aren't. They aren't conforming and doing just what they're told like the generation before them and a lot of them are very anti pedo/leftist/woke. It may be too early to tell but after getting all that filth jammed down their throats by they child raping millenial teachers a lot of them are going to respond accordingly and turn into the complete opposite.
There were some but it wasn't created or filled with millenials.
Even if it was, they completely ditched it to suck the cock of niggers, faggots and authority so it doesn't matter. They pushed for the authoritative leftist pedo government we've had for years
There really is a problem with Gen Z and actually not working. I think with Millennials, so many of them are innately authoritarian (and were groomed that way by the public schools), that they literally did not know what to do if they weren't actively told or trained. No initiative, no work ethic, no discipline, no accountability, and then when you add Millennial cynicism onto that, you get people who choose to NEVER demonstrate those things, because: "Why in God's name would I put any effort in since you should never be trusted as an employer?"
Think about it: how the fuck can anyone work a real job if the employees are all distrustful, dysgenic mutants, with a social media addiction, and might be rabid narcissists. Worse, again, this is just the Millennials. Society has mind fucked Zoomers and Alpha similarly. The problems that the Millennials had have never even been addressed, let alone solved. We're all basically in the same boat at different ages.
Think about it: how the fuck can anyone work a real job if the employees are all distrustful, dysgenic mutants
It's a full on feedback loop at this point, so assigning blame for who kicked it off isn't terribly productive. Employers will lay people off at the drop of a hat so employees respond by becoming mercenary and displaying zero loyalty or initiative. In response to mercenary employees the employers stop bothering to train employees who jump ship every few years. Repeat ad nauseum. Low trust job market successfully established. Have fun.
I don't disagree because some of those employees that were dysgenic mutants, become managers who are dysgenic mutants, who were placed into that position by dysgenic mutants. Frankly, this is something you see in the Soviet Union with incompetence rising to the top at every level because of influence peddling and dependency culture.
I've actually decided that career advancement may be less important to me than a good workplace environment, because I can't be sure of career advancement in a bad workplace, when they can actually fucking rape my career and resume at first glance.
A good workplace trumps all. Working with good people means a better day at work and you'll get to actually sharpen your skills, so even if the axe does swing you'll be better situated to pivot into whatever the next place is. That said, I am very biased towards this dynamic given the nature of being a federal contractor means there's always a next job to move on to whether I like it or not.
Millennials got shit on by the 2008 recession, threw a tantrum with Occupy Wallsreet, then got fucked with rising real estate prices. Only the smart ones who took care of milestones early (marriage, vehicle, house, kids) managed to make it out ok.
I don't disagree, but my great disappointment with the millennials is that they stubbornly held on to Leftist ideology despite all available evidence, even their own deaths, and are the most authoritarian generation since the Silent geners... and for no reason.
We will be worse than the Boomers. I promise you. We deserve to be condemned.
That’s true, same for the Gen who came right after millennials, the Xennial Gen or whatever TF my generation is called. There was a tiny window for my Gen to get life squared away before the economy went to shit and housing prices skyrocketed, and I’m guessing only about 20% of Xennials got it done successfully, so everyone else in my Gen and those who came after are in a very bad situation, and they all know it.
Xennials (the "Oregon Trail Generation") are the transition from Gen X to Millennial.
Zennials are the transition from Millennial to Gen Z.
And yeah, they're pronounced the same way, which is why I prefer Oregon Trail Generation for the former. I don't know if Zennial also has a cutesy nickname to avoid this ambiguity.
My Gen isn’t Z. I know for a while they wanted to include my generation with the millennial Gen, but the people born between 1977 to 1985 had a unique upbringing, so they came up with the term “Xennial” and called my generation a micro-generation, because it didn’t really fit in with Generation X or the millennials or Gen Z. We experienced two worlds in our formative years, one world where everything was wholesome America before tech took over, where our adolescent years were spent outside playing, fighting and being very active, life wasn’t childproofed yet so one of us might catch a lawn dart in the head on occasion, then we hit the workforce busting our asses, and from about 18 to 30 years old we watched internet and smart tech become a major part of daily life. The “millennials” and Gen Z spent their formative years buried in technology, and Gen X experienced life mainly like their boomer parents did with the same opportunities, whereas my Gen experienced life in both worlds with very limited economic opportunity in our future unless we did everything right.
Yeah Gen Y is millennial, and Gen X spanned a very long period, 1965 to 1980, so there’s some overlap in what they ended up calling a Xennial. Personally I don’t think you can be considered Gen X unless you were a part of the last successful generation who still had a great economy to jump into right out of high school, up until your early 30’s, they had a nice easy shot at getting established with a house and a high wage job before the economy was gutted, and before the anti-White policies really took hold.
I think Gen X's biggest marker was that although they were kind of left listless in childhood, they were the last generation to really enjoy their youth from childhood to young adulthood because they had distinct communities, culture, art, music, and the last vestiges of that epoch of time when young men and women going to school socialized in normal ways.
The millennials only like the 90's because it was the last recorded time when things were "normal".
There's a meme that really fucks me up as a Millennial. It's a picture of a little girl playing with a flower in front of landscape that includes the twin towers. The text on the image read something like: "Our children will never know what they lost". It fucks me up because it seems like we were the last generation to even witness normalcy, and that was now 30 years ago. Gen X was the last demographic to kind of have a normal life. The late 90's were a period of stagnation that no one wanted to admit to. It was as if everyone ran out of ideas. 9/11 changed everything because it started a cascade effect of economic and cultural collapse. That brief moment of unity after 9/11, a decade later, became a moment where Leftists were ashamed that Americans killed OBL. Those same Leftists are calling for Trump's murder, or even my murder today. Chinese propagandists on TikTok are sharing OBL's letter to America and trying to convince Zoomers and Alpha that he was a good guy, despite the fact that we all knew his complaints and didn't care that that was his justification for mass murder.
There's a website that shows TV news from like 2004, and I remember one Zoomer telling me that it was crazy how normal it was. Nobody was crying hysterically about politics.
We live in the most mentally deranged civilization in all of human history, and our children are the most mentally ill generation in all of history, and even they can feel it. They have no concept of what normal even was. The Boomers rebelled against "normal", passed nothing down, and then were surprised to find out it had died from their actions and that no one had ever carried anything on. Millennials are going to have to come to terms with the fact that our normal has to be physically re-created by people who didn't even live it, in order to pass it on to our grandkids, and none of us know how.
You don't think understanding the context they grew up in and how it shaped them matters? Look at the culture they were born into, look how much damage social media has done to adults who went most of their lives without it, let alone gen z. Gen z guys have actually given me a bit of renewed hope because there are some insanely based ones and they seem to understand they were sold out more and more
There's a real problem with this. They could overcome it in theory, but it takes Batman levels of willpower to overcome a truly toxic environment, especially when you're not even aware of other ways of doing things. This is why shutting down language is so valuable, you can't resist authority if it's not even in the language.
Dude, clearly their parents and the system failed them, kids aren’t born to have the attention span of a gnat on methamphetamine, but when their internet addicted parents put an iPad in their kid’s hands from the moment he can hold it, and leave him for hours watching retarded content, then put him in a school that doesn’t promote critical thinking or logic anymore, a school that promotes self hate and victimhood, you end up with an entire generation like Gen Z.
Gen Z isn’t stupid by any means, at least not the White kids, they have the same IQ as the average White person from every generation before, it’s genetic. They’ve been socially engineered to be as far from self reliant as possible. They have no hope for economic success in a majority of cases, especially with the anti-White DEI policy locking them out of decent colleges and stripping them of any chance to be hired in a high wage position.
When j’ws want to cultivate a generation that fully supports some form of communism they plan to force fhat population into, they strip them of all economic opportunity so the young adults will beg government to take care of their needs, that’s what is happening here, it is intentional….and the end result will be a technocratic form of communism, where a social credit system is coupled with a smart tech spy grid that’s all around us watching everything we do and say, dictating whether you’ve been a good enough goy to receive a UBI payment, a pod to live in, free time outside of that pod, maybe even eat a real burger, or travel a few hours away from your “15 minute city” open air prison cell….that’s the life j’ws want Gen Z and A to beg for, and with how bad shit is getting for everyone, with no chance to own a home or retire, soon with no jobs available thanks to immigrants, automation and AI, a lot of people will embrace that solution because they feel there is no other viable option.
It started with younger millennials. Boomers couldn’t actually make an argument for work quality being different so they started using terms like “anti-social behavior” and “doesn’t integrate with company culture”, you can guess who created those terms.
You speak sone truth for sure but I’ve had to work with and supervise young people and I can see a difference although I’ve been told that since I was in the military I have “rigid military expectations”. But inflation is hitting young people like crazy as well and unfettered immigration
It’s something I noticed in the military, guys who actually did work started getting out early because they were passed up on advancement for lazy/ mediocre workers who fit a “profile” (this ran from DEI to semi attractive women getting early promoted). Turns out when you bureaucratize hiring and flatten pay instead of promoting hard work you get mass burnout. When I got out I thought it would be just the military but it hit the private sector hard while I was in.
Gen z is only willing to do the bare minimum because they haven’t seen return on work like many of us did when we were younger. Hell I picked a niche because I would have walked if I was stuck in a corporate job or average white collar job today. We’re in a fake economy by every definition and it shows when you have 4 admin positions for every actual worker.
Good points. I did see that a little bit in the Air Force. My parents drilled into my head about working hard and even if I’m pushing a mop I better do the best job possible. True there are some lazy and lefty Gen z but there are definitely some issues to address as well
I think that’s why trades have maintained a decent pay scale despite inflation and DEI, you can’t hold 18 meetings over clogged pipes or loose vents.
The core trade, construction, got hit hard with tons of Mexican laborers decades ago, starting back in the 70s and 80s. It's just that a lot of poorer White men still practice the trade despite the massive depression in wages of the industry, because of the cheap foreign labor. Also, most Mexican construction workers are shit, their quality is shit, and they leave trash everywhere, which enables White construction workers and carpenters to offer better service and quality, leaving a niche for that demand.
Funnily enough I saw a report somewhere that older houses were selling for higher than new houses and the main reason was new homes are now needing another 10k plus in rework because of rushed builds.
Watch any CyFy vid if you want a glimpse of how shit new builds are.
Mexicans are fucking lazy and arrogant little swine by and large in the trade industry.
I'm a welder, and the amount of trash, undercut, disgusting looking cat shit I've seen passed off as a weld from the Mexicans I work with is appalling. I work in custom high end stainless for consumers. Not at the local bus barn.
And guess what? Management/supervisors are too scared to say something about it. Either because "muh racist" card, or because the beaners work fast (which is why their shit looks like shit, fast work at the expense of quality) they just pass it off and expect others to deal with it. I get told to fix it later in finishing if any of it comes my way. I've begun to just leave it as is, because I know it'll come to a head at some point. I'll be telling them to make those beaners do it right the first time because I won't cover them. They can fire me, let it slide, or make them do it right.
Already got a job offer at a place I know doesn't have Mexicans. They're sloppy shitters that get by on "working fast" and as you say, that'll pass in some jobs and for some bosses, but the rest of us ain't dealing with it
Dude, if you don't think there's no argument for work quality being different, I can only assume that you've never had to hire anyone under 30.
Are all of Gen Z lazy entitled fucks? No. Is Gen Z disproportionately lazy and entitled? Absolutely.
And no, I'm not making the argument that if they work hard just like their parents did everything will work out just the same. These are completely separate issues.
I’m a younger millennial, I can assure you the quality drop off was entirely due to DEI hiring practices and make work policies. When 5 people are doing 20 people’s jobs while the other 15 are holding meetings and writing pointless emails for the same pay you get what you hired. Gen zs quality is because they want to be held to the same standards as the DEI make work hires.
DEI is terrible but it's mainly an issue in corporate environments.
The work ethic is also terrible in typical first-job situations. Restaurants, grocery stores, etc. And it's also terrible in nearly 100% white areas (though much better in rural white areas). That's not due to DEI.
I haven’t noticed that by me, there’s still younger gen z doing landscaping every summer and same in my local stores.
The laziest most retarded Zoomer is still a step up from 99% of pajeets though.
No disagreement there. I've had a couple of Indian coworkers on separate occasions who were fine but they were the only Indian dudes in the office, and they were also U.S. born. Any other environment with 2 or more of them has been terrible.
The issue is that there is no reason to work hard if the rewards don't match the effort. Gem Z is just making the smart choice given the state of the world today.
This might be the one thing you and I agree on.
There are plenty but you're a disingenuous asshole.
Lmao.
Next you'll call me a jew or something. Sad
I think it started earlier than that, with Gen X’ers. I’m pretty sure Boomers faced the same stigma when they were young, but it is easier to remember the millennials getting shit on because it was all via online news articles.
Gen x and boomers were never part of the mass immigration movement taking over their jobs. You could argue the blue collar gen x and boomers got hit by outsourcing but H1Bs didn’t start until 1990 and didnt blow up until 2005. Same with offshoring of white collar jobs.
Au contraire, boomers and gen x were the first ones to see their jobs destroyed. The offshore movement of manufacturing started in the 1980s, and that hit boomers, and overlapped into gen x. The working class boomers and early gen x were hit very hard. Not a few of them are now dead as a direct result of this due to suicide and drug addiction.
You can go back even further, to the 1970's. Look up the "Rust Belt" of America. That's when all those single-income factory jobs were destroyed because the owners could save a few pennies pulling up stakes and moving the entire company overseas. Company owners got to have their sweatshops while America switched from a manufacturing nation to a retail nation. This deepened the rot of feminism because oops retail doesn't pay nearly as well, so it increased the demand for two-income households, which meant fewer stay at home moms to properly raise the kids, etc.
Yes and even despite all that, boomers have the largest share of national wealth ever seen in the history of western society.
Sure 2 million manufacturing jobs lost between 1980-2000 and 5.5 between 2000 and 2018. That’s what 7.5 million? There’s 32 million immigrants employed in the US as of 2024. That’s over 10 million more than in 2010. This of course doesn’t include the mass offshoring of white collar jobs and the DEI hiring practices either.
And it’s about half the rate that millennials and gen z have.
Boomers in customer service dealt with their peers and neighbors.
Gen Z in customer service deal with demanding and "diverse" customers who can barely speak the language.
I don't blame Gen-Z. Why should they be expected to be upbeat faced with that?
Or Gen-Z is made up of those people who don't care about anyone but their in-group.
These kind of articles are funny to me, because I’m 100% sure that millennials have been doing the same shit and Gen X’ers and Boomers would be the same exact way as Gen Z given the circumstances.
It’s kind of weird how everyone just conveniently forgets how much their own generation was shit on for being lazy and unprofessional and instead just perpetuates this cycle which I am 100% sure was used to justify the outsourcing of labor and the use of visa programs this whole time.
Listen, when my coworkers and I tossed a football back and forth at the cash registers we didn't film it and show the world.
Hey, retard, his point was that IF you were in the current generation, YES YOU WOULD. Your cultural milieu is different from GenZ and your lack of ability to understand that shows just how little your understanding of the world it.
I swear, reading comprehension is abysmal.
No, this is different. And no, each generation being lazy and unprofessional is a new feature. In fact, the very concept of "generational differences' is a new concept. Most populations in history don't notice any significant generational differences in society. It's the same reason "feminization of men/society" isn't talked about in previous epochs either.
There is something wrong. Each generation is getting lazier, crazier, less disciplined, and more degenerate. The Zoomers are basically the first one to have a major shift so early on because of the full spectrum dominance of Leftist power structures, and early Millennial dissent against the same.
It's more accurate to say each generation claims all the same attitudes, but that's not really true either. The Boomers were really the first generation to truly reject society and claim total independence en masse because they had understood "the system". Each generation has claimed greater grievance and been more resentful and cynical than the last, even Gen X. Now, we have the most resentful, cynical, unhinged society ever.
The last people who ever actually trusted their institutions were the "Greatest Generation", because they'd basically all served with each other in the War, and were raised in real suffering by parents who went through WW1 and the Great Depression.
Just because we see a pattern of generational conflict under the Boomer Truth Regime, doesn't mean you can back-date that problem a thousand years, or even 100.
Some of it. Indians brag about how they're better then white people, how everything would collapse without them etc. It's all justification on replacing with infinite pajeets.
Non-pajeet management will often say the same thing because they need to justify their actions of outsourcing and replacing jobs with Indians.
I'm at the border between X and Millennial and I'm completely demotivated. I've seen entire teams, good hard working teams with great results being replaced entirely by Indians. Imagine spending your off hours working for a company while neglecting your family just so management can replace you without a second thought because they want to reduce cost.
I have friends that have started putting in minimum work and started working on side-projects for extra cash. Funny part is that minimum work is still a lot more then what most Indians put out.
I can only assume that seeing this as Gen Z would be completely demoralizing.
Like most generational hate, its partially true and partially not.
Plenty of Gen Z were happy to be the youthful footsoldiers of the Woke for years, until uh oh they had to move out, get a job, and pay taxes while dealing with the consequences of all that finally coming home to roost. Now they are in a schism of those who grow up and out of that (while mostly dodging any accountability), while others triple down into it and push even harder.
The only unique thing here, since that is basically every generation prior, is that the Woke and the Leftist Insanity happened during their era. Sure it was brewing and being pushed by Millenials hard (and had been undercurrenting for decades prior), but it finally "exploded" right on their plate, at the age when most of them were perfect marks for it.
So its really just terrible timing for them, because they will forever be associated with that simply because it happened during their teens-20s.
I agree. Also, Gen Z is just too weird for Boomers, who are (still) clinging to power.
I did an interview once with a DoD contractor for a dumbass simple Excel supply chain job. First round was with the office bitch
she asked me if it was ok that the office was all women, I said sure
Next round was with the boomer manager and some HR slut who had fresh botox and a speeding ticket.
He seems to like me at first then I start talking about AI and tech and his whole face changed. Like he was scared that I knew too much.
Didn't get the job.
I'm not sure how it would be illegal specifically, but this question doesn't seem legal.
Outside of some very gender-specific careers (Brazilian waxing, Labor & Delivery, etc.)
If you're have to deal with immigrants and/or Muslim communities, there are some guys who are complete and utter spazzes and can't handle it. I suspect a company would be 'not racist' but just asking every man looking to get hired the question and not just the brown guys.
“Speeding ticket” what’s that?
There's something to that. The boomers will have to get out of these positions. In general they just treat people like shit that aren't other boomers. You are their doormat and their piggy bank, and you better fucking like it. The bad part of the change is that, in the corporate world at least, what they've left as their legacy is DEI replacements.
A lot Gen Z isn't that bad if you interact with them well. They have a sixth sense for catching on if you're secretly judging them or writing them off as weird though. Don't do that, even if you think what they are into is weird who cares. Treat them like peers and you might be surprised. A huge chunk of the white guy Gen Z group is totally on to the scam that is wokeness too.
Well, that’s probably not far from accurate, but let’s not pretend there isn’t an effort to make sure Gen Z and A are as mindfucked and as useless as possible when it comes to real world skills. Schools are lowering standards across the board which could be explained by DEI, but the reality is that it’s a deliberate dumbing down of society, plus they’re also changing things like simple math through common core, they’re warping history, they’re changing definitions of various words, they’re just getting rid of logic so the next generation doesn't even try to comprehend why everything is so insanely irrational, let alone try to make the world sane again since all they’ve ever known is a world that doesn’t make sense, a world without rationality or logic. Gen Z and A have been socially engineered to seek out immediate gratification thanks to their constant interaction with social media and the internet in general, where they can get porn, games, likes, retarded 39 second long TikTok content, they can get almost anything they want without leaving their house, so they don’t learn to be independent, or strive to achieve any wholesome goals whether they be career related or regarding marriage and family building because they don’t know a thing about putting in a longterm effort and dealing with some level of longterm hardship to attain those wholesome goals, making those goals seem impossible to achieve. Not to mention, their millennial parents are just as addicted to social media and internet as they are whenever their parents are outside of work, so the parents aren’t raising their children as they should be in a vast majority of cases, shit, they put an iPad in their kids hands from the moment that kid could hold the damn thing just so the parents could feed their internet addiction. Plus Gen Z abd A are looking at a future world where there is no hope to own a house, or ever have a high paying job that they can live a decent life with, as they watch Ai and automation rapidly take over all sorts of careers, so even if they get a shitty job they’re like “why TF should I work hard when I’m pretty much fucked no matter what I do?”. They’re not wrong to think that, so I get why Gen Z doesn’t exactly have the strongest work ethic, but we have to realize, this economic situation is what our (((government))) intentionally created because they know it will lead kids to beg government to be their new parents, so Gov can take care of all of their needs/wants. A reliant people is a compliant people. If the kids don’t have any real world skills, if they can’t drive, if they rely on a government UBI and technology to satisfy all of their needs, our (((government))) can dictate the terms of access for EVERYONE who needs access to their funds and tech, meaning you WILL behave however they tell you to behave or else you are fucked. Plus, you won’t have the skills a homeless person has nowadays to survive outside of the system in the cold without money for food, so it’s a death sentence if you don’t comply.
I really wanted to read this, but bro, PARAGRAPHS!
Every generation goes through their youth when the older generations call them lazy pieces of shit when likely the older generations were much lazier and bigger pieces of shit when they were young.
Except there was no youthful rebellion stage for millenials. They went right from underage kids to finger wagging shushing scolds that reported everyone. Since generations usually turn out directly opposed the the generation before them (Boomers were the establishment/Gen X became anti establishment/millenials happily wore their brand preferences on their body in tattoos and social media) Gen Z is turning out to be everything millenials aren't. They aren't conforming and doing just what they're told like the generation before them and a lot of them are very anti pedo/leftist/woke. It may be too early to tell but after getting all that filth jammed down their throats by they child raping millenial teachers a lot of them are going to respond accordingly and turn into the complete opposite.
The Occupy Wallsreet protests were all Millenials.
There were some but it wasn't created or filled with millenials.
Even if it was, they completely ditched it to suck the cock of niggers, faggots and authority so it doesn't matter. They pushed for the authoritative leftist pedo government we've had for years
There really is a problem with Gen Z and actually not working. I think with Millennials, so many of them are innately authoritarian (and were groomed that way by the public schools), that they literally did not know what to do if they weren't actively told or trained. No initiative, no work ethic, no discipline, no accountability, and then when you add Millennial cynicism onto that, you get people who choose to NEVER demonstrate those things, because: "Why in God's name would I put any effort in since you should never be trusted as an employer?"
Think about it: how the fuck can anyone work a real job if the employees are all distrustful, dysgenic mutants, with a social media addiction, and might be rabid narcissists. Worse, again, this is just the Millennials. Society has mind fucked Zoomers and Alpha similarly. The problems that the Millennials had have never even been addressed, let alone solved. We're all basically in the same boat at different ages.
It's a full on feedback loop at this point, so assigning blame for who kicked it off isn't terribly productive. Employers will lay people off at the drop of a hat so employees respond by becoming mercenary and displaying zero loyalty or initiative. In response to mercenary employees the employers stop bothering to train employees who jump ship every few years. Repeat ad nauseum. Low trust job market successfully established. Have fun.
I don't disagree because some of those employees that were dysgenic mutants, become managers who are dysgenic mutants, who were placed into that position by dysgenic mutants. Frankly, this is something you see in the Soviet Union with incompetence rising to the top at every level because of influence peddling and dependency culture.
I've actually decided that career advancement may be less important to me than a good workplace environment, because I can't be sure of career advancement in a bad workplace, when they can actually fucking rape my career and resume at first glance.
A good workplace trumps all. Working with good people means a better day at work and you'll get to actually sharpen your skills, so even if the axe does swing you'll be better situated to pivot into whatever the next place is. That said, I am very biased towards this dynamic given the nature of being a federal contractor means there's always a next job to move on to whether I like it or not.
Been this way since the 2008 recession.
Millennials got shit on by the 2008 recession, threw a tantrum with Occupy Wallsreet, then got fucked with rising real estate prices. Only the smart ones who took care of milestones early (marriage, vehicle, house, kids) managed to make it out ok.
I don't disagree, but my great disappointment with the millennials is that they stubbornly held on to Leftist ideology despite all available evidence, even their own deaths, and are the most authoritarian generation since the Silent geners... and for no reason.
We will be worse than the Boomers. I promise you. We deserve to be condemned.
That’s true, same for the Gen who came right after millennials, the Xennial Gen or whatever TF my generation is called. There was a tiny window for my Gen to get life squared away before the economy went to shit and housing prices skyrocketed, and I’m guessing only about 20% of Xennials got it done successfully, so everyone else in my Gen and those who came after are in a very bad situation, and they all know it.
Xennials (the "Oregon Trail Generation") are the transition from Gen X to Millennial.
Zennials are the transition from Millennial to Gen Z.
And yeah, they're pronounced the same way, which is why I prefer Oregon Trail Generation for the former. I don't know if Zennial also has a cutesy nickname to avoid this ambiguity.
You're called a Zoomer, and we're all kinda fucked in the same boat, in the same way.
My Gen isn’t Z. I know for a while they wanted to include my generation with the millennial Gen, but the people born between 1977 to 1985 had a unique upbringing, so they came up with the term “Xennial” and called my generation a micro-generation, because it didn’t really fit in with Generation X or the millennials or Gen Z. We experienced two worlds in our formative years, one world where everything was wholesome America before tech took over, where our adolescent years were spent outside playing, fighting and being very active, life wasn’t childproofed yet so one of us might catch a lawn dart in the head on occasion, then we hit the workforce busting our asses, and from about 18 to 30 years old we watched internet and smart tech become a major part of daily life. The “millennials” and Gen Z spent their formative years buried in technology, and Gen X experienced life mainly like their boomer parents did with the same opportunities, whereas my Gen experienced life in both worlds with very limited economic opportunity in our future unless we did everything right.
Okay, my mistake. Yeah, I actually consider that 1980-85 crowd to still be Gen X, but I get Xennial.
85-90 at the same time is what used to be known as Gen Y so there is a term for it.
Yeah Gen Y is millennial, and Gen X spanned a very long period, 1965 to 1980, so there’s some overlap in what they ended up calling a Xennial. Personally I don’t think you can be considered Gen X unless you were a part of the last successful generation who still had a great economy to jump into right out of high school, up until your early 30’s, they had a nice easy shot at getting established with a house and a high wage job before the economy was gutted, and before the anti-White policies really took hold.
I think Gen X's biggest marker was that although they were kind of left listless in childhood, they were the last generation to really enjoy their youth from childhood to young adulthood because they had distinct communities, culture, art, music, and the last vestiges of that epoch of time when young men and women going to school socialized in normal ways.
The millennials only like the 90's because it was the last recorded time when things were "normal".
There's a meme that really fucks me up as a Millennial. It's a picture of a little girl playing with a flower in front of landscape that includes the twin towers. The text on the image read something like: "Our children will never know what they lost". It fucks me up because it seems like we were the last generation to even witness normalcy, and that was now 30 years ago. Gen X was the last demographic to kind of have a normal life. The late 90's were a period of stagnation that no one wanted to admit to. It was as if everyone ran out of ideas. 9/11 changed everything because it started a cascade effect of economic and cultural collapse. That brief moment of unity after 9/11, a decade later, became a moment where Leftists were ashamed that Americans killed OBL. Those same Leftists are calling for Trump's murder, or even my murder today. Chinese propagandists on TikTok are sharing OBL's letter to America and trying to convince Zoomers and Alpha that he was a good guy, despite the fact that we all knew his complaints and didn't care that that was his justification for mass murder.
There's a website that shows TV news from like 2004, and I remember one Zoomer telling me that it was crazy how normal it was. Nobody was crying hysterically about politics.
We live in the most mentally deranged civilization in all of human history, and our children are the most mentally ill generation in all of history, and even they can feel it. They have no concept of what normal even was. The Boomers rebelled against "normal", passed nothing down, and then were surprised to find out it had died from their actions and that no one had ever carried anything on. Millennials are going to have to come to terms with the fact that our normal has to be physically re-created by people who didn't even live it, in order to pass it on to our grandkids, and none of us know how.
I hate Gen z because they're even dumber and lazier than the generation before, with a shorter attention span and no ability to think.
That kind of person is what's getting replaced with AI. We still don't need to import anyone.
You don't think understanding the context they grew up in and how it shaped them matters? Look at the culture they were born into, look how much damage social media has done to adults who went most of their lives without it, let alone gen z. Gen z guys have actually given me a bit of renewed hope because there are some insanely based ones and they seem to understand they were sold out more and more
I don't buy it as an excuse, no. People can overcome being raised by retards and make their lives better.
There's a real problem with this. They could overcome it in theory, but it takes Batman levels of willpower to overcome a truly toxic environment, especially when you're not even aware of other ways of doing things. This is why shutting down language is so valuable, you can't resist authority if it's not even in the language.
Dude, clearly their parents and the system failed them, kids aren’t born to have the attention span of a gnat on methamphetamine, but when their internet addicted parents put an iPad in their kid’s hands from the moment he can hold it, and leave him for hours watching retarded content, then put him in a school that doesn’t promote critical thinking or logic anymore, a school that promotes self hate and victimhood, you end up with an entire generation like Gen Z.
Gen Z isn’t stupid by any means, at least not the White kids, they have the same IQ as the average White person from every generation before, it’s genetic. They’ve been socially engineered to be as far from self reliant as possible. They have no hope for economic success in a majority of cases, especially with the anti-White DEI policy locking them out of decent colleges and stripping them of any chance to be hired in a high wage position.
When j’ws want to cultivate a generation that fully supports some form of communism they plan to force fhat population into, they strip them of all economic opportunity so the young adults will beg government to take care of their needs, that’s what is happening here, it is intentional….and the end result will be a technocratic form of communism, where a social credit system is coupled with a smart tech spy grid that’s all around us watching everything we do and say, dictating whether you’ve been a good enough goy to receive a UBI payment, a pod to live in, free time outside of that pod, maybe even eat a real burger, or travel a few hours away from your “15 minute city” open air prison cell….that’s the life j’ws want Gen Z and A to beg for, and with how bad shit is getting for everyone, with no chance to own a home or retire, soon with no jobs available thanks to immigrants, automation and AI, a lot of people will embrace that solution because they feel there is no other viable option.
the "justifications" are just a pretense
really, it's all being done to bring back slave labor