It started with younger millennials. Boomers couldn’t actually make an argument for work quality being different so they started using terms like “anti-social behavior” and “doesn’t integrate with company culture”, you can guess who created those terms.
You speak sone truth for sure but I’ve had to work with and supervise young people and I can see a difference although I’ve been told that since I was in the military I have “rigid military expectations”. But inflation is hitting young people like crazy as well and unfettered immigration
It’s something I noticed in the military, guys who actually did work started getting out early because they were passed up on advancement for lazy/ mediocre workers who fit a “profile” (this ran from DEI to semi attractive women getting early promoted). Turns out when you bureaucratize hiring and flatten pay instead of promoting hard work you get mass burnout. When I got out I thought it would be just the military but it hit the private sector hard while I was in.
Gen z is only willing to do the bare minimum because they haven’t seen return on work like many of us did when we were younger. Hell I picked a niche because I would have walked if I was stuck in a corporate job or average white collar job today. We’re in a fake economy by every definition and it shows when you have 4 admin positions for every actual worker.
Good points. I did see that a little bit in the Air Force. My parents drilled into my head about working hard and even if I’m pushing a mop I better do the best job possible. True there are some lazy and lefty Gen z but there are definitely some issues to address as well
Dude, if you don't think there's no argument for work quality being different, I can only assume that you've never had to hire anyone under 30.
Are all of Gen Z lazy entitled fucks? No. Is Gen Z disproportionately lazy and entitled? Absolutely.
And no, I'm not making the argument that if they work hard just like their parents did everything will work out just the same. These are completely separate issues.
I’m a younger millennial, I can assure you the quality drop off was entirely due to DEI hiring practices and make work policies. When 5 people are doing 20 people’s jobs while the other 15 are holding meetings and writing pointless emails for the same pay you get what you hired. Gen zs quality is because they want to be held to the same standards as the DEI make work hires.
DEI is terrible but it's mainly an issue in corporate environments.
The work ethic is also terrible in typical first-job situations. Restaurants, grocery stores, etc. And it's also terrible in nearly 100% white areas (though much better in rural white areas). That's not due to DEI.
No disagreement there. I've had a couple of Indian coworkers on separate occasions who were fine but they were the only Indian dudes in the office, and they were also U.S. born. Any other environment with 2 or more of them has been terrible.
The issue is that there is no reason to work hard if the rewards don't match the effort. Gem Z is just making the smart choice given the state of the world today.
I think it started earlier than that, with Gen X’ers. I’m pretty sure Boomers faced the same stigma when they were young, but it is easier to remember the millennials getting shit on because it was all via online news articles.
Gen x and boomers were never part of the mass immigration movement taking over their jobs. You could argue the blue collar gen x and boomers got hit by outsourcing but H1Bs didn’t start until 1990 and didnt blow up until 2005. Same with offshoring of white collar jobs.
Au contraire, boomers and gen x were the first ones to see their jobs destroyed. The offshore movement of manufacturing started in the 1980s, and that hit boomers, and overlapped into gen x. The working class boomers and early gen x were hit very hard. Not a few of them are now dead as a direct result of this due to suicide and drug addiction.
You can go back even further, to the 1970's. Look up the "Rust Belt" of America. That's when all those single-income factory jobs were destroyed because the owners could save a few pennies pulling up stakes and moving the entire company overseas. Company owners got to have their sweatshops while America switched from a manufacturing nation to a retail nation.
This deepened the rot of feminism because oops retail doesn't pay nearly as well, so it increased the demand for two-income households, which meant fewer stay at home moms to properly raise the kids, etc.
Au contraire, boomers and gen x were the first ones to see their jobs destroyed. The offshore movement of manufacturing started in the 1980s, and that hit boomers, and overlapped into gen x.
Yes and even despite all that, boomers have the largest share of national wealth ever seen in the history of western society.
The working class boomers and early gen x were hit very hard.
Sure 2 million manufacturing jobs lost between 1980-2000 and 5.5 between 2000 and 2018. That’s what 7.5 million? There’s 32 million immigrants employed in the US as of 2024. That’s over 10 million more than in 2010. This of course doesn’t include the mass offshoring of white collar jobs and the DEI hiring practices either.
Not a few of them are now dead as a direct result of this due to suicide and drug addiction.
And it’s about half the rate that millennials and gen z have.
It started with younger millennials. Boomers couldn’t actually make an argument for work quality being different so they started using terms like “anti-social behavior” and “doesn’t integrate with company culture”, you can guess who created those terms.
You speak sone truth for sure but I’ve had to work with and supervise young people and I can see a difference although I’ve been told that since I was in the military I have “rigid military expectations”. But inflation is hitting young people like crazy as well and unfettered immigration
It’s something I noticed in the military, guys who actually did work started getting out early because they were passed up on advancement for lazy/ mediocre workers who fit a “profile” (this ran from DEI to semi attractive women getting early promoted). Turns out when you bureaucratize hiring and flatten pay instead of promoting hard work you get mass burnout. When I got out I thought it would be just the military but it hit the private sector hard while I was in.
Gen z is only willing to do the bare minimum because they haven’t seen return on work like many of us did when we were younger. Hell I picked a niche because I would have walked if I was stuck in a corporate job or average white collar job today. We’re in a fake economy by every definition and it shows when you have 4 admin positions for every actual worker.
Good points. I did see that a little bit in the Air Force. My parents drilled into my head about working hard and even if I’m pushing a mop I better do the best job possible. True there are some lazy and lefty Gen z but there are definitely some issues to address as well
I think that’s why trades have maintained a decent pay scale despite inflation and DEI, you can’t hold 18 meetings over clogged pipes or loose vents.
Dude, if you don't think there's no argument for work quality being different, I can only assume that you've never had to hire anyone under 30.
Are all of Gen Z lazy entitled fucks? No. Is Gen Z disproportionately lazy and entitled? Absolutely.
And no, I'm not making the argument that if they work hard just like their parents did everything will work out just the same. These are completely separate issues.
I’m a younger millennial, I can assure you the quality drop off was entirely due to DEI hiring practices and make work policies. When 5 people are doing 20 people’s jobs while the other 15 are holding meetings and writing pointless emails for the same pay you get what you hired. Gen zs quality is because they want to be held to the same standards as the DEI make work hires.
DEI is terrible but it's mainly an issue in corporate environments.
The work ethic is also terrible in typical first-job situations. Restaurants, grocery stores, etc. And it's also terrible in nearly 100% white areas (though much better in rural white areas). That's not due to DEI.
I haven’t noticed that by me, there’s still younger gen z doing landscaping every summer and same in my local stores.
The laziest most retarded Zoomer is still a step up from 99% of pajeets though.
No disagreement there. I've had a couple of Indian coworkers on separate occasions who were fine but they were the only Indian dudes in the office, and they were also U.S. born. Any other environment with 2 or more of them has been terrible.
The issue is that there is no reason to work hard if the rewards don't match the effort. Gem Z is just making the smart choice given the state of the world today.
This might be the one thing you and I agree on.
There are plenty but you're a disingenuous asshole.
Lmao.
Next you'll call me a jew or something. Sad
I think it started earlier than that, with Gen X’ers. I’m pretty sure Boomers faced the same stigma when they were young, but it is easier to remember the millennials getting shit on because it was all via online news articles.
Gen x and boomers were never part of the mass immigration movement taking over their jobs. You could argue the blue collar gen x and boomers got hit by outsourcing but H1Bs didn’t start until 1990 and didnt blow up until 2005. Same with offshoring of white collar jobs.
Au contraire, boomers and gen x were the first ones to see their jobs destroyed. The offshore movement of manufacturing started in the 1980s, and that hit boomers, and overlapped into gen x. The working class boomers and early gen x were hit very hard. Not a few of them are now dead as a direct result of this due to suicide and drug addiction.
You can go back even further, to the 1970's. Look up the "Rust Belt" of America. That's when all those single-income factory jobs were destroyed because the owners could save a few pennies pulling up stakes and moving the entire company overseas. Company owners got to have their sweatshops while America switched from a manufacturing nation to a retail nation. This deepened the rot of feminism because oops retail doesn't pay nearly as well, so it increased the demand for two-income households, which meant fewer stay at home moms to properly raise the kids, etc.
Yes and even despite all that, boomers have the largest share of national wealth ever seen in the history of western society.
Sure 2 million manufacturing jobs lost between 1980-2000 and 5.5 between 2000 and 2018. That’s what 7.5 million? There’s 32 million immigrants employed in the US as of 2024. That’s over 10 million more than in 2010. This of course doesn’t include the mass offshoring of white collar jobs and the DEI hiring practices either.
And it’s about half the rate that millennials and gen z have.