Let's be real here, nobody actually cares about that. Not us, not the Israelis, not the Russians. And certainly not the mohammandans.
Civilian casualties are a fact of warfare. The pager bombings are stupid for several other reasons, not to mention hilarious. But arabs only pretend to care about their children when it's someone else killing them. Of any group in the world, they are the most eager to use crocodile tears.
I'm under no illusion that any side actually cares about civilians in the pointless endless war that is the holy land. that's why I hold the firm opinion that we should just fuck off. stop injecting weapons into either side, stop funding either side, let them kill each other.
I do care about civilian casualties. But, then again, I'm not a sociopath begging for votes and power, nor am I intentionally looking to leverage violence against others that do me no harm.
The fat and rich command, and the masses suffer. It's the way of history practically forever.
What does it mean to 'care'? You have sad feelings or concern towards people thousands of miles away who you never knew? I'd rather save my empathy for the people closest around me.
If I made a tier list, yeah, my family would be at the top. But that doesn't mean innocent people who just want to live their lives doesn't make my list at all.
Yes of course, but what does it mean that you 'care'? What do you do with this list?
edit: I'm not trying to catch you out, I'm genuinely interested. I see that word thrown around a lot, used to make someone feel better about a situation and disassociate themselves from, to use your word, psychopaths.
no one cares about that because most military doctrines seem to advocate the military use of civilian infrastructure, among other things, to be able to whine about muh war crimes when they get hit by retaliatory fire.
even ignoring the fact that the Geneva Convention seems to have been turned into the Geneva Checklist in recent years, the stated rules are clear. any originally civilian object used for military purpose becomes a legitimate military target.
Setting off hundreds or thousands of explosions in a civilian area, particularly when you don't know what the collateral damage is is an evil act and should be condemned as such.
It's terrorism when Hamas sets off random explosions in civilian areas, it's terrorism when other organizations (to include a certain country) do it, too.
The sheer number and random placement of the bombs - and these are literally just bombs - almost insures that a large number of civilians will be harmed.
But Israel gets a free pass on all collateral damage. Because muh chosen.
Yup, hundreds of civilians have been reportedly injured.
It's crazy looking at some of the comments on normie channels defending and justifying the injuries because of "muh Hezbollah".
I asked a few of those same people if they would be cheering on the attacks if some of their family members were part of the civilians injured? And just had silence as a response.
From a tactical perspective this is absolutely wrong.
These attacks are wildly more precise than any weapon in our arsenal, or any theoretical weapon in our arsenal, because the targets are self-selecting.
This isn't "random explosions". These are effectively exploding a person's wallet.
The closest weapon we have to this is a specially designed inert missile that, rather than exploding, has spinning blades push from the casing. It is designed to take out single vehicles. It still kills everyone inside the car. I've now personally watched two videos of innocent civilians being completely unharmed from exploding peripherals that are not even 5 feet away. A sniper's bullet is more dangerous than this, because of just how far a .300 WinMag can over-penetrate.
More than random explosions, this is closer to deploying a platoon of ninja assassins.
Except since the cyber-warfare attack is utilizing the batteries, rather than a proper explosive, almost no one seems to have been killed in these attacks, only maiming.
Your last sentence is incorrect. If the pagers were spontaneously combusting then using a battery as a pyrotechnic device would be more credible, but if you've watched any of the videos it's clear that they're using some kind of high explosive.
I'm not going to completely dismiss the high explosives argument, but the level of masterful infiltration it would take to get into a communication device manufacturing process, to insert high explosives secretly, have none be discovered FOR YEARS, even by accident, and have it only sent to members of Hezbollah is so amazing it's fucking preposterous that anyone could pull it off.
It would be one of the greatest military supply chain attacks in human history, and frankly, I just don't think that the Israelis could possibly be that good. Frankly, it would mean that the Mossad has full knowledge of the entire logistical and personelle structure of Mossad. Which is absurd for an organization that has been fighting the Mossad and the CIA for decades.
It's on the same level of "The world trade center was detonated by thermite that was secretly installed on every pillar, of every floor, of both WTC 1 & 2 by the entirety of the NYPD and NYFD over the course of 10 years". It's so fucking difficult to keep that secret you'd be better of doing literally anything else and spending 1/1000th the money.
I find it far more likely that the cyber-warfare specialists figured out a way to force the lithium batteries to over-heat and explode by transmitting specific signals to these pagers and walkie-talkies. Hezbollah probably thought that these devices were so low tech, that it couldn't happen to them, but even low-tech stuff can be hacked (like how payphones used to be hacked by whistling).
Considering how often, or not often, these devices would be changed out or maintained, I would expect that if this were a bombing campaign, we'd be looking at thousands of exploding pagers in the local Lebanese dump. And then an entire radio shack blowing up in a violent explosion for the walkie-talkies. The pagers would be swapped out relatively quickly, but then the walkie-talkies wouldn't be.
Hell, that hypothesis would be closer to the spiked ammunition sabotage programs that most militaries try to use, but they typically can't even accomplish that at the weapon's factories. They have to plant pre-spiked ammunition onto battlefields and hope that enemy pick-ups scavenge it. Most militaries have no capacity to infiltrate an enemy supply chain to the extent the bombing hypothesis would require. It seems like way to difficult of a feat.
Oh look, Gizortnik arrives to defend the bad behavior of Jewish people once again. What a surprise. Who could have possibly predicted this unexpected turn in the discourse?
The Israeli military and "the jewish people" are not the same thing.
Cry about the fact that this is a good tactic to minimize collateral damage. Then recognize that it will be further used in future wars, and adapt to it.
Spreading bombs over a wide area and letting them intermingle among civilians is not a good tactic to minimize collateral damage, unless you want to compare it to the carpet bombing of evacuees Israel did a few months back.
Hezbollah blows up civilian areas and are terrorists.
The size and precision of the bomb matters, as I pointed out. A dumb bomb dropped from 30,000 feet onto Saint Lo could hit anyone. From what we've physically seen from security footage, the exploding devices are hitting their operators, and not even the people next to them. Most of the time, they are not even killing the operators.
I'm sorry that you are upset that you don't know how to do it to your unfortunate neighbors; but I see nothing here that counts as a terrorist attack, as the targets are a paramilitary target so far, and the collateral damage has been minimal if any.
It seems like these devices are being triggered to explode in a manner where there is some acknowledgement of a received message. Like reading the message on a beeper, not just having a beeper. The vast and sweeping majority of these are going to be detonating on people who are specifically working with them. I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of incidents of collateral damage so far.
Really, the question needs to be about whether or not you want to target Hezbollah's non-militants. Yes we call it a terrorist organization, but it is also a full fledged political party in multiple states. Killing every single person in a party is wildly broad. So, the real question is: how does Israel know which of these numbers to target? I don't have an answer to that, but it doesn't seem to be a full scope, because they seem to be targeting specific cities.
I don't really have a strong opinion about this, but I do wonder if all of the people cheering it on would have any problem with assassinations of US or Israeli soldiers who are out of uniform and not engaged in any sort of military activity.
Or that British soldier that was murdered recently.
Hezbollah was one of the military factions in Lebanon that fought a bloody ethnic civil war against other religious groups.
It's a sectarian paramilitary organization with no official status in Lebanon and it was one of the first Islamic groups to start using suicide bombings.
Considering one of their stated goals is Jewish genocide, I can see why Israel believes they're all fair game.
And I don't really care. They joined the group, they can deal with the consequences. It'd be like if the dems explicitly said "we want to genocide white people" as their party platform. Any dem would be fair game in a kinetic conflict at that point. Or do you not agree?
Probably this one, reasonably recently. It happened right before the 3 girls were killed and however many more injured at the dance school, which kicked off all that rioting.
I'm not going to go dig it up, but no, it was a different one. Some guy just murdered by an islamist outside of his own home because he was wearing his uniform.
This has already been a long-standing threat to US military personally. While AQI never attacked families in the US, they would love to do so, and there were attempts to intimidate and threaten family members if the servicemen were careless about OPSEC.
Truth is that irregular warfare is going to become regular. Irregular warfare attacks within the homeland, and outside of uniform are going to become much more normal as conventional warfare becomes to costly and ineffective to employ by minor nations and NGO's.
Many of the responses in these posts show the complete degradation of morality in Western populations. And also a complete lack of perspective.
For those of you who think planting bombs in electronic devices and detonating them in civilian areas is a 'good thing' because the targets are 'terrorists', or that the harm caused to innocents is simply inconsequential 'collateral damage', well, in case you haven't realized it yet, many of you are considered 'terrorists' by parts of your governments and your 'leftist' opponents. Therefore, this is the kind of attack that could be justified against you, or your friends and family.
Civilized societies don't do this kind of thing. Killing or harming innocent people is against the moral order. Tactics that knowingly lead to direct harm of innocents - such as detonating bombs in civilian areas - are abhorrent. Supporting these tactics ultimately leads to a destruction of civilized society, because these tactics are fundamentally uncivilized.
I fully believe that the the ultimate cause of slow destruction of Western countries is not, in fact, due to immigrants or 'leftists', but a lack of morality among these populations. Having turned away from our Lord and King Jesus Christ, and His moral teachings, many in Western countries have adopted non-Christian 'moralities' including principles such as "there are not bad tactics, only bad targets" or "the end justifies the means". These are against God's moral order.
The blueprint for building a civilized society and maintaining one is following God's moral order. He has embedded that truth in the fabric of existence. He has provided us direct access to that blueprint through the Word Incarnate, His Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ. Each of us has the free will to follow the moral order or not, and many of us stumble even when we are trying to follow it, but rejecting it leads only to peril. I firmly believe that is the truth.
Here's the thing though. I understand that when my enemies want to do something, they will do it regardless of what I think is right or wrong so I will not handicap myself with morality when I know my enemies will not do the same. I will tell my enemies they should not do bad things in hopes my enemies handicap themselves by sticking to the morality I tell them they ought to stick with but when I engage in attacking my enemies I will do whatever it takes to win and morality be damned.
The rigged devices were all used in a professional capacity and kept on their person. The explosives were most likely tailored to injure only the wearer.
Hezbollah itself is a terrorist organization that pioneered the tactic of suicide bombings, which cause indiscriminate carnage.
The rigged devices were all used in a professional capacity and kept on their person. The explosives were most likely tailored to injure only the wearer.
You have no way of knowing if that is actually true. You only have the word of known liars.
Yeah, because trusting the terrorists who got bombed is smart.
Collateral damage happens in war. I'm sure you totally cry about all the Jewish civilians actively targeted and killed by terrorists, right? Oh, no, you probably got a hard on because you're a stormfag.
Israel attacked legitimate military targets, which is a political group actively trying to genocide them.
Stormfags gonna stormfag though. God forbid your goat fucking friends get killed. Good riddance to trash. Maybe Israel will take you out too one day. You wouldn't be missed.
Seriously. If they even attempted the Golden Rule they'd be way better off right now.
Instead they don't even operate under an eye for an eye, they go by the Mobster Rule: "He pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue."
I'm sure this skirts several international laws against sabotaging and boobytrapping things, of which of course israel will never face any consequences for doing so. Which means this will be normalized as a legitimate tactic, and whomever controls the supply chain will be able to do this kind of thing with impunity. Isn't it great that so much of our shit is made in China, and we're currently rattling our sabers in prelude to a potential invasion of Taiwan?
They'll probably resort to more decentralized and interpersonal comms.
That, or they'll just have to create their own separate telecom network, since they are funded by Iran (and the bajillion dollars we handed Iran), this is potentially doable.
A reminder to the morons celebrating this: Anything Israel does to "terrorists", the democrats will do to you, since you are a terrorist simply by posting to this board.
if they do intend to go for a ground operation, this is the time. the Hezbollah communications are mostly or completely fried. if they don't press their absolutely enormous advantage, it means all the talk of direct confrontation is just posturing.
Reports I'm seeing are that the pagers (and now we're learning a lot of other devices) were intercepted between manufacture and receipt, booby trapped, and sent on their way.
The only things Muslim terrorists are doing are rape gangs against women and children, forming gangs, turning half the west into west bumfuckistan, and murdering people.
I don't expect anything else from you retards though. You also wouldn't be missed if Israel decided to take out the stormfag short bus brigade.
Hezbollah are Islamic terrorists managed by Iran, I don´t care who kills them, Israel, China, Japan or whatever, I hope they eliminate every single one of them, they are a danger to every body who stands for freedom and free speech.
So, if Alqeda terrorists fight Israel should we celebrate them? It seems you have learned nothing from the Taliban, the fought against the Soviet Union with the support of the USA and once they finished fighting the Soviet Union they turn their weapons against the rest of the World. The same will happen with Hezbollah, if they destroyed Israel they would not stop there, there are many other countries they want to destroy.
Ignoring regime change didn´t work too well when Hitler rose to power. Unfortunately what happens in other countries affects the rest of the World. In a globalised World even more.
again, I have my doubts that these attacks are only hitting Hezbollah. Israel doesn't care about killing civilians.
Let's be real here, nobody actually cares about that. Not us, not the Israelis, not the Russians. And certainly not the mohammandans.
Civilian casualties are a fact of warfare. The pager bombings are stupid for several other reasons, not to mention hilarious. But arabs only pretend to care about their children when it's someone else killing them. Of any group in the world, they are the most eager to use crocodile tears.
I'm under no illusion that any side actually cares about civilians in the pointless endless war that is the holy land. that's why I hold the firm opinion that we should just fuck off. stop injecting weapons into either side, stop funding either side, let them kill each other.
Oh I agree completely. But trying to scold the Israelis for harming civilians is going to reach only the deafest of ears.
I too have been noticing that.
and if their shit spills out into our country, we punish both sides heavily.
I do care about civilian casualties. But, then again, I'm not a sociopath begging for votes and power, nor am I intentionally looking to leverage violence against others that do me no harm.
The fat and rich command, and the masses suffer. It's the way of history practically forever.
For my part, I have too much experience with them to pretend like there's such a thing as civilians in islam.
Lol revealed yourself
As a soldier? Quite. I despise islam because it, along with judaism and leftism, are the three most evil ideologies on the planet.
But I hate them all the more for having had to deal with them, and seeing them for what they are.
You revealed yourself as liberal fag.
You revealed yourself as too impatient not to jump the gun.
What does it mean to 'care'? You have sad feelings or concern towards people thousands of miles away who you never knew? I'd rather save my empathy for the people closest around me.
If I made a tier list, yeah, my family would be at the top. But that doesn't mean innocent people who just want to live their lives doesn't make my list at all.
Yes of course, but what does it mean that you 'care'? What do you do with this list?
edit: I'm not trying to catch you out, I'm genuinely interested. I see that word thrown around a lot, used to make someone feel better about a situation and disassociate themselves from, to use your word, psychopaths.
no one cares about that because most military doctrines seem to advocate the military use of civilian infrastructure, among other things, to be able to whine about muh war crimes when they get hit by retaliatory fire.
even ignoring the fact that the Geneva Convention seems to have been turned into the Geneva Checklist in recent years, the stated rules are clear. any originally civilian object used for military purpose becomes a legitimate military target.
fuck the people who do this.
Relative to Israel and America, Russia has been extremely restrained. They could level Kiev in day.
Agreed. And from their perspective it makes perfect sense to do so.
I made that point yesterday too. Especially against terrorists who hide among civilians, you don't have as many options.
Killing tens of thousands of women and children in order to also kill the terrorists hiding amongst them is an insanely immoral strategy.
Well, while we're making things up that didn't happen, what if Russia is actually behind the jews?
Indications are this is a supply chain attack.
So while there are collateral victims, the device bearers are probably all connected to the organization.
Setting off hundreds or thousands of explosions in a civilian area, particularly when you don't know what the collateral damage is is an evil act and should be condemned as such.
It's terrorism when Hamas sets off random explosions in civilian areas, it's terrorism when other organizations (to include a certain country) do it, too.
The sheer number and random placement of the bombs - and these are literally just bombs - almost insures that a large number of civilians will be harmed.
But Israel gets a free pass on all collateral damage. Because muh chosen.
Yup, hundreds of civilians have been reportedly injured.
It's crazy looking at some of the comments on normie channels defending and justifying the injuries because of "muh Hezbollah".
I asked a few of those same people if they would be cheering on the attacks if some of their family members were part of the civilians injured? And just had silence as a response.
you don't get to hide among civilians and then complain about civilian casualties.
I'm not a terrorist hiding among civilians and I'm complaining about yet another instance of indiscriminate bombing in civilian areas.
You don't get to set off bombs in civilian areas, ESPECIALLY when you don't know where they are, and claim to be the good guy.
Hezbollah blows up civilian areas and are terrorists.
Israel blows up civilian areas and are _____.
Hezbollah blows up civilian areas BECAUSE THEY ARE CIVILIAN AREAS.
Therefore....
Not where I was going with that, but uh.... thanks I guess?
From a tactical perspective this is absolutely wrong.
These attacks are wildly more precise than any weapon in our arsenal, or any theoretical weapon in our arsenal, because the targets are self-selecting.
This isn't "random explosions". These are effectively exploding a person's wallet.
The closest weapon we have to this is a specially designed inert missile that, rather than exploding, has spinning blades push from the casing. It is designed to take out single vehicles. It still kills everyone inside the car. I've now personally watched two videos of innocent civilians being completely unharmed from exploding peripherals that are not even 5 feet away. A sniper's bullet is more dangerous than this, because of just how far a .300 WinMag can over-penetrate.
More than random explosions, this is closer to deploying a platoon of ninja assassins.
Except since the cyber-warfare attack is utilizing the batteries, rather than a proper explosive, almost no one seems to have been killed in these attacks, only maiming.
Your last sentence is incorrect. If the pagers were spontaneously combusting then using a battery as a pyrotechnic device would be more credible, but if you've watched any of the videos it's clear that they're using some kind of high explosive.
I'm not going to completely dismiss the high explosives argument, but the level of masterful infiltration it would take to get into a communication device manufacturing process, to insert high explosives secretly, have none be discovered FOR YEARS, even by accident, and have it only sent to members of Hezbollah is so amazing it's fucking preposterous that anyone could pull it off.
It would be one of the greatest military supply chain attacks in human history, and frankly, I just don't think that the Israelis could possibly be that good. Frankly, it would mean that the Mossad has full knowledge of the entire logistical and personelle structure of Mossad. Which is absurd for an organization that has been fighting the Mossad and the CIA for decades.
It's on the same level of "The world trade center was detonated by thermite that was secretly installed on every pillar, of every floor, of both WTC 1 & 2 by the entirety of the NYPD and NYFD over the course of 10 years". It's so fucking difficult to keep that secret you'd be better of doing literally anything else and spending 1/1000th the money.
I find it far more likely that the cyber-warfare specialists figured out a way to force the lithium batteries to over-heat and explode by transmitting specific signals to these pagers and walkie-talkies. Hezbollah probably thought that these devices were so low tech, that it couldn't happen to them, but even low-tech stuff can be hacked (like how payphones used to be hacked by whistling).
Considering how often, or not often, these devices would be changed out or maintained, I would expect that if this were a bombing campaign, we'd be looking at thousands of exploding pagers in the local Lebanese dump. And then an entire radio shack blowing up in a violent explosion for the walkie-talkies. The pagers would be swapped out relatively quickly, but then the walkie-talkies wouldn't be.
Hell, that hypothesis would be closer to the spiked ammunition sabotage programs that most militaries try to use, but they typically can't even accomplish that at the weapon's factories. They have to plant pre-spiked ammunition onto battlefields and hope that enemy pick-ups scavenge it. Most militaries have no capacity to infiltrate an enemy supply chain to the extent the bombing hypothesis would require. It seems like way to difficult of a feat.
Oh look, Gizortnik arrives to defend the bad behavior of Jewish people once again. What a surprise. Who could have possibly predicted this unexpected turn in the discourse?
The Israeli military and "the jewish people" are not the same thing.
Cry about the fact that this is a good tactic to minimize collateral damage. Then recognize that it will be further used in future wars, and adapt to it.
Oh hey, how's those tunnels in New York City?
Spreading bombs over a wide area and letting them intermingle among civilians is not a good tactic to minimize collateral damage, unless you want to compare it to the carpet bombing of evacuees Israel did a few months back.
Hezbollah blows up civilian areas and are terrorists.
Israel blows up civilian areas and are _____.
Jewish and therefor immune to criticism you filthy anti-semite.
The size and precision of the bomb matters, as I pointed out. A dumb bomb dropped from 30,000 feet onto Saint Lo could hit anyone. From what we've physically seen from security footage, the exploding devices are hitting their operators, and not even the people next to them. Most of the time, they are not even killing the operators.
I'm sorry that you are upset that you don't know how to do it to your unfortunate neighbors; but I see nothing here that counts as a terrorist attack, as the targets are a paramilitary target so far, and the collateral damage has been minimal if any.
It seems like these devices are being triggered to explode in a manner where there is some acknowledgement of a received message. Like reading the message on a beeper, not just having a beeper. The vast and sweeping majority of these are going to be detonating on people who are specifically working with them. I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of incidents of collateral damage so far.
Really, the question needs to be about whether or not you want to target Hezbollah's non-militants. Yes we call it a terrorist organization, but it is also a full fledged political party in multiple states. Killing every single person in a party is wildly broad. So, the real question is: how does Israel know which of these numbers to target? I don't have an answer to that, but it doesn't seem to be a full scope, because they seem to be targeting specific cities.
I don't really have a strong opinion about this, but I do wonder if all of the people cheering it on would have any problem with assassinations of US or Israeli soldiers who are out of uniform and not engaged in any sort of military activity.
Or that British soldier that was murdered recently.
Issue is, Hezbollah don't wear uniforms even when actively engaged in combat, so pointing out they weren't in uniform falls flat.
Fair enough, but the point wasn't that they aren't uniformed. The point was that they're not engaged in military activity.
And we're just supposed to take Israel's word for the fact that they were terrorists. And we all know that Israel never lies.
Stop noticing.
Hezbollah was one of the military factions in Lebanon that fought a bloody ethnic civil war against other religious groups.
It's a sectarian paramilitary organization with no official status in Lebanon and it was one of the first Islamic groups to start using suicide bombings.
Considering one of their stated goals is Jewish genocide, I can see why Israel believes they're all fair game.
And I don't really care. They joined the group, they can deal with the consequences. It'd be like if the dems explicitly said "we want to genocide white people" as their party platform. Any dem would be fair game in a kinetic conflict at that point. Or do you not agree?
What British soldier?
Probably this one, reasonably recently. It happened right before the 3 girls were killed and however many more injured at the dance school, which kicked off all that rioting.
I'm not going to go dig it up, but no, it was a different one. Some guy just murdered by an islamist outside of his own home because he was wearing his uniform.
This has already been a long-standing threat to US military personally. While AQI never attacked families in the US, they would love to do so, and there were attempts to intimidate and threaten family members if the servicemen were careless about OPSEC.
"Shushy the Purple OPSEC dragon says: shut the fuck up you retard"
Truth is that irregular warfare is going to become regular. Irregular warfare attacks within the homeland, and outside of uniform are going to become much more normal as conventional warfare becomes to costly and ineffective to employ by minor nations and NGO's.
Fuck moral relativism. The deaths on both sides of the Ukraine-Russian War are tragic, but the only good Islamist is a dead Islamist.
Many of the responses in these posts show the complete degradation of morality in Western populations. And also a complete lack of perspective.
For those of you who think planting bombs in electronic devices and detonating them in civilian areas is a 'good thing' because the targets are 'terrorists', or that the harm caused to innocents is simply inconsequential 'collateral damage', well, in case you haven't realized it yet, many of you are considered 'terrorists' by parts of your governments and your 'leftist' opponents. Therefore, this is the kind of attack that could be justified against you, or your friends and family.
Civilized societies don't do this kind of thing. Killing or harming innocent people is against the moral order. Tactics that knowingly lead to direct harm of innocents - such as detonating bombs in civilian areas - are abhorrent. Supporting these tactics ultimately leads to a destruction of civilized society, because these tactics are fundamentally uncivilized.
I fully believe that the the ultimate cause of slow destruction of Western countries is not, in fact, due to immigrants or 'leftists', but a lack of morality among these populations. Having turned away from our Lord and King Jesus Christ, and His moral teachings, many in Western countries have adopted non-Christian 'moralities' including principles such as "there are not bad tactics, only bad targets" or "the end justifies the means". These are against God's moral order.
The blueprint for building a civilized society and maintaining one is following God's moral order. He has embedded that truth in the fabric of existence. He has provided us direct access to that blueprint through the Word Incarnate, His Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ. Each of us has the free will to follow the moral order or not, and many of us stumble even when we are trying to follow it, but rejecting it leads only to peril. I firmly believe that is the truth.
Here's the thing though. I understand that when my enemies want to do something, they will do it regardless of what I think is right or wrong so I will not handicap myself with morality when I know my enemies will not do the same. I will tell my enemies they should not do bad things in hopes my enemies handicap themselves by sticking to the morality I tell them they ought to stick with but when I engage in attacking my enemies I will do whatever it takes to win and morality be damned.
The rigged devices were all used in a professional capacity and kept on their person. The explosives were most likely tailored to injure only the wearer.
Hezbollah itself is a terrorist organization that pioneered the tactic of suicide bombings, which cause indiscriminate carnage.
You have no way of knowing if that is actually true. You only have the word of known liars.
Sure, if you ignore all the video evidence showing the explosions.
But stormfags gonna stormfag.
> Hundreds of handheld pagers exploded near simultaneously in parts of Lebanon and Syria on Tuesday, killing at least 12 people — including members of the militant group Hezbollah and two children — and wounding several thousand, according to Lebanon's public health minister.
Man, it's almost as if you are a demon.
Yeah, because trusting the terrorists who got bombed is smart.
Collateral damage happens in war. I'm sure you totally cry about all the Jewish civilians actively targeted and killed by terrorists, right? Oh, no, you probably got a hard on because you're a stormfag.
I can't imagine being as low iq as you retards.
So you recognize that this was a terrorist attack, and you still try to claim that you are a moral actor. Demonic.
Israel attacked legitimate military targets, which is a political group actively trying to genocide them.
Stormfags gonna stormfag though. God forbid your goat fucking friends get killed. Good riddance to trash. Maybe Israel will take you out too one day. You wouldn't be missed.
Seriously. If they even attempted the Golden Rule they'd be way better off right now.
Instead they don't even operate under an eye for an eye, they go by the Mobster Rule: "He pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue."
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I'm sure this skirts several international laws against sabotaging and boobytrapping things, of which of course israel will never face any consequences for doing so. Which means this will be normalized as a legitimate tactic, and whomever controls the supply chain will be able to do this kind of thing with impunity. Isn't it great that so much of our shit is made in China, and we're currently rattling our sabers in prelude to a potential invasion of Taiwan?
international law is fake and gay
As is the state of israel.
Lol, kike faggots are mad. What time is it in Tel Aiv?
I wouldn't be surprised if Hezbollah go back to carrier pigeons and they explode at this rate.
Although hilarious, this is why you need your logistics locked down at home, otherwise they are easily compromised.
They'll probably resort to more decentralized and interpersonal comms.
That, or they'll just have to create their own separate telecom network, since they are funded by Iran (and the bajillion dollars we handed Iran), this is potentially doable.
A reminder to the morons celebrating this: Anything Israel does to "terrorists", the democrats will do to you, since you are a terrorist simply by posting to this board.
Tonight’s episode of Suicide Bombing was sponsored by Israel.
if they do intend to go for a ground operation, this is the time. the Hezbollah communications are mostly or completely fried. if they don't press their absolutely enormous advantage, it means all the talk of direct confrontation is just posturing.
How can you make an explosive out of something without having access to said device?
Is this just the battery packs being forced to burst somehow?
Reports I'm seeing are that the pagers (and now we're learning a lot of other devices) were intercepted between manufacture and receipt, booby trapped, and sent on their way.
That explains it. I had not seen that report. I guess be real careful who holds the items you hold in your hand on a daily basis before you do.
Ngl this is actually pretty funny.
And they will continue being hated throughout history.
Zionists are the scum of the Earth, but in this case, targeting a militant group is totally justified.
There will be civilian casualties as collateral damage, but they are not the main target of this operation.
It's amazing to see the stormfag brigade openly admit they prefer Muslim terrorists to jews.
Just come out of the closet as actual leftists already. Your buddies are screeching about it too.
The only things Muslim terrorists are doing are rape gangs against women and children, forming gangs, turning half the west into west bumfuckistan, and murdering people.
I don't expect anything else from you retards though. You also wouldn't be missed if Israel decided to take out the stormfag short bus brigade.
Hezbollah are Islamic terrorists managed by Iran, I don´t care who kills them, Israel, China, Japan or whatever, I hope they eliminate every single one of them, they are a danger to every body who stands for freedom and free speech.
Hezbollah blows up civilian areas and are terrorists.
Israel blows up civilian areas and are _____.
ok jidf
So, if Alqeda terrorists fight Israel should we celebrate them? It seems you have learned nothing from the Taliban, the fought against the Soviet Union with the support of the USA and once they finished fighting the Soviet Union they turn their weapons against the rest of the World. The same will happen with Hezbollah, if they destroyed Israel they would not stop there, there are many other countries they want to destroy.
Ignoring regime change didn´t work too well when Hitler rose to power. Unfortunately what happens in other countries affects the rest of the World. In a globalised World even more.
Epic is epic.
Jew is you