Notwithstanding that it might not be a genuine conversion, if it brings her closer to God, it is a good thing. There is only one God, which is the God of the Hebrews, which is Allah, which is the Holy Trinity, one God. The latter is our best understanding of God, yet we as humans should humbly realize that our understanding of the infinite mystery of God will always be far from complete. A former Christian turned atheist who once again believes in God through the Koran has made a step in the right direction.
Brother, you should not be "black pilled". Unless I am mistaken, you have previously identified yourself as a Christian. Remember that our Lord Jesus Christ, through His Passion and Cross has conquered death itself. We await in joyful hope for His coming again.
God does not require us to 'fix' the world. That is His responsibility. Instead, the only thing we are called to do is to follow His commandment to love God and love our neighbor, and to have faith that doing so will lead to good.
If the world turns on Christians that we end up being persecuted for following His commandments, so be it. We are called to be living witnesses to our faith, no matter what we encounter.
Finally, if a "Democrat landslide" is leading you to be "black pilled", I honestly think you should mediate of this question - Am I placing the importance of politics above God?
Remember we are called to be in the world, not of the world.
I do not pray that you should take them out of the world, but that you should keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. John 17:15–18
Matthew 28:19-20
Real life had a good run. But it's over now.
Very soon they'll be at a level where reality can be manipulated in real time, at home.
Real life hasn't gone anywhere and won't be going anywhere. Reality itself will never be able to be 'edited' by editing the content of our screens. Watching videos of people, be they 'real' or clearly fictional has never been 'reality'. It's always been, at best, an attempt to capture reality. Yet even what purports to be 'real' has always been an attempt to portray a certain picture, image or world to us. Actual real life is out there in our lives in the real world. It always has been and always will be.
The rise of the ease to create 'real-life' videos means there are two clear options. We can remind ourselves that what is on our screens is not reality, and we always remember to keep our distance from it so it doesn't take over our real lives, beliefs and values. Or we can choose to fully embrace this fictional reality and live in this fictional world, and have our lives ultimately controlled by those who create these fictional worlds.
In other words, we can choose to live in the actual reality God created and controls. Or we can choose to live in a fictional reality that man creates and controls.
TheImpossible1, DresdenFirebomber, whatever your name is. Here are some words for you, from one man to another.
I don't know much about you, not really. I've seen plenty of your material here. Some of it I agreed with. Some I didn't.
But all that is besides the point. It doesn't matter who you are. All that matters is you are a real, living human being. And with that there is only one thing that matters, be it to you, me or any person: God is calling you. God wants you to know Him. To love Him. Our Lord God, omnipotent and omniscient, yet still longing for you to love Him, just like He is longing for me to love Him, unworthy as I am. What a mystery that is.
You might not believe that. It might just sound like a fairy tale. But like the first men that walked this Earth, and every one since, you will have these questions imprinted on your heart. Who am I? Where have I come from and where am I going? Why is there evil? What is there after this life?
Perhaps you have answers to these questions. But I make a simple request. Ponder them a bit more. Meditate on them. Seek the answers to them with a sincere heart.
Who is the One at the beginning and end of all things?
Peace be with you, brother.
As a Christian, I would suggest that your primary aim in life should be to unite your will with that of God's. And doing so entails you allowing yourself to be led by our Lord Jesus Christ, through faith in Him and following His example. As Jesus says, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also; henceforth you know him and have seen him." (John 14:6-7 RSV).
Practically speaking, this means forming your conscience to follow the natural law, which is God's eternal law applied to human behavior. This means, yes, ensuring you love your neighbor as you love yourself. Under God's natural law, we are not required to 'fix' the world ourselves. To be frank, that is God's purview. He is, after all, in control of history.
Remember that all of us are created in the image and likeness of God. Each human possesses infinite dignity by virtue by being human. This is why we are called to love our neighbors. Of course, it does not mean 'being nice' to everyone (this is a 'near enemy' of actual love), but rather that we are concerned with the redemption of all fellow humans by bringing them to the Truth of Jesus Christ.
When you admit that "race realism" is starting to "make sense", what is this idea in a fundamental sense? Is it that certain groups of humans are inherently inferior to others by virtue of the birth, i.e. their 'genes', and others are inherently superior to others? Is this something that could be true, knowing what you do about natural law? Or are seductive ideas from a secular world, in which man is placed above God? Where might seductive ideas ultimately be coming from?
Perhaps this comment resonates with you, perhaps it does not. I am raising questions that I think you should ponder in your heart, like Mary of Nazareth did so often, and perhaps this is something you would like to bring to our Lord in prayer. I myself ponder these questions often, for I know it is necessary to do so to form my own conscience and to try to be a servant of God, not of man.
When the quote is taken in full context, Pope Leo, is talking more about valuing other things in life, instead of just material wealth, which is exactly what Jesus says in the Bible (e.g. https://www.esv.org/verses/Luke+12:15/). See below (source: https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-09/the-pope-let-us-overcome-hatred-and-violence.html):
For Pope Leo, it is important “to continue to remind ourselves of the potential that humanity has to overcome the violence and the hatred that is just dividing us more and more.”
Recognizing that we live in times of polarization – especially after the crisis of 2020, and also in times of lost values – Pope Leo says: “The value of human life, of the family, and the value of society. If we lose the sense of those values, what matters anymore?”
He also points to “the continuously wider gap between the income levels of the working class and the money that the wealthiest receive.”
The Pope notes that “CEOs that 60 years ago might have been making four to six times more than what the workers are receiving, the last figure I saw, it’s 6,600 times more than what average workers are receiving.”
On this point, the Pope says he also read that Elon Musk, American entrepreneur and founder of Tesla and SpaceX, will be the world’s first trillionaire: “What does that mean and what's that about? If that is the only thing that has value anymore, then we're in big trouble…”
Which looking back, I didn't notice how anti-Christian it was.
This is why our culture is anti-Christian. Decades and decades of propaganda. Some of it overt. Some of it less so. Millions and millions of people watching the same TV shows, the same movies, playing the same games. Perhaps it's possible for a mature adult like yourself who is firm in the faith to notice and reject, but what about the children? What about young adults? Now I wonder why so many young people eventual end up rejecting the faith?
This is why I think that everyone should be very very conscious and cautious about the media they consume. It's designed to get into your head, to manipulate you. It's actually very hard to avoid that. Think of this scenario. A flyer arrives in the mail advertising some crap you don't think you need. But what the heck, I'll have a quick look through it. Then, oh look - that's interesting, maybe I could do with that? Not every item, not every flyer, but it does happen. The advertising works, that's why they do it. And you can't effectively avoid this by telling yourself "I'll look at the flyer but I'm not going to buy anything". The solution that does work is throwing the flyer in the trash before looking at it.
Think about how that applies to the other media people consume.
There are plenty of inconsistencies in what simps and tradcucks preach. But that's beside the point. The reason "MGTOW" men exist is because modern Western society sets up men to be addicted to women sexually. Otherwise these men would simply go their own way and be celibate monks or similar, and you wouldn't hear from them.
Instead, we have men who aren't interested in (or have decided against) relationships with women, but are still desperate for sex - so we end up with men who can't overcome their addiction and turn to porn, hookers etc. Calling them losers might make you feel all high and mighty, but is (1) a rather poor analysis of the issue and (2) doesn't do anything to actually help.
In before the losers at c/MGTOW flood the comments with "it's actually healthy for you" and "I can quit whenever I want."
Porn is indeed a problem, and many men on MGTOW are addicted to porn, but it's hardly only these men who promote the addiction to sex. Many 'simps' and 'tradcucks' are just as addicted to sex. A strong motivator of their behavior is their sexual attraction to women and they expect or promote other men to be equally driven by sexual attraction.
That's not to say that sexual attract in itself is wrong, but it needs to be regulated by our reason. And many, or perhaps most, modern men fail badly at this. I see it as all part of a continuum - society promotes the idea that achieving sex with a woman is the greatest good a man can achieve. Some foot soldiers try to herd men in the direction of a marriage where the needs of the woman is the main importance. Others promote the idea of 'serving' women with the implied 'reward' of sexual access to woman. Others, having internalized these messages, seek to obtain sexual fulfillment through other means (e.g. porn), and in doing so, make themselves even more open to political control.
The correct path, of course, is for all men to embrace chastity. If this means celibacy for many men, so be it. A wise man once said: Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.
Each of us has a calling. For some that many be to marry and have children. For others, it will be to be something else. Sexual perversion and and the inability to control our sexual desires is a sure way to lead us astray or away from that calling.
Embrace chastity, brothers.
All you are really doing is pointing our the absurdity of Sola Scriptura.
Not the first time the something contradictory is found in the Church or the Bible.
It's not contradictory. It's clear to me that that verse and the preceding lines are in agreement with the Holy See's interpretation of it, as given in the CCC.
The point is that God respects our free will. He requires our assent. No doubt He is calling you to do something for Him, like He is calling me and all of us. Whether or not you give your assent is up to you.
God knows everything, so of course he would pick a woman who would want to do it, and just told her after picking her. Which still sounds weird by today's standarts.
Of course God knew she would have wanted to do it. But she still had to say "Yes". Otherwise God would have been forcing Mary to be impregnated without her consent.
I suppose my classes and Church were not Real 1992 Catholics enough.
I don't know what your point is. Go to any Catholic church and ask the priest - did Mary have a choice whether to become the Mother of Jesus or not - I know they will say "Yes, she did have a choice". We mediate on Mary's fiat in the Rosary. It's part of many homilies. It's not a new interpretation. It's not modern. It's right there in the Bible.
Yes the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) promulgated by the Pope. Search for it if you don't believe me, I gave you the reference number. I located the reference in my hardcopy and gave a link to the first online copy I found. The Bible verse supporting this is Luke 1:38. I quoted it in my another response here.
Mary's choice is given in verse 38, which you didn't quote:
38“I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.
Mary is clearly giving her assent to becoming the mother of Jesus in this verse.
Her choice was prior to conception. Apart from cases of rape, every woman also has such a choice - she can choose whether or not to have sexual intercourse.
I was raised Catholic. At no point ever in the classes or church readings was she asked about carrying and birthing the son of God. She was told by an angel God had chosen her for that purpose.
I disagree with you. Mary agreeing to be the Mother of God is a key aspect of Catholic theology. I know it well because it is part of the mediation of the first Joyful Mystery of the Holy Rosary - The Annunciation. Mary giving her fiat, to allow God to act through her, is an example we should all follow when He calls us and asks something of us - we should make the same choice as she did and say 'Yes' to God.
You don't have to take my word for it as it is clearly stated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (my emphasis):
488 "God sent forth his Son", but to prepare a body for him, he wanted the free co-operation of a creature. For this, from all eternity God chose for the mother of his Son a daughter of Israel, a young Jewish woman of Nazareth in Galilee, "a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary":
The Father of mercies willed that the Incarnation should be preceded by assent on the part of the predestined mother, so that just as a woman had a share in the coming of death, so also should a woman contribute to the coming of life.
So yes, Mary did have a choice but this choice was prior to conception. Apart from cases of rape, every woman also has such a choice - she can choose whether or not to have sexual intercourse.
Many of the responses in these posts show the complete degradation of morality in Western populations. And also a complete lack of perspective.
For those of you who think planting bombs in electronic devices and detonating them in civilian areas is a 'good thing' because the targets are 'terrorists', or that the harm caused to innocents is simply inconsequential 'collateral damage', well, in case you haven't realized it yet, many of you are considered 'terrorists' by parts of your governments and your 'leftist' opponents. Therefore, this is the kind of attack that could be justified against you, or your friends and family.
Civilized societies don't do this kind of thing. Killing or harming innocent people is against the moral order. Tactics that knowingly lead to direct harm of innocents - such as detonating bombs in civilian areas - are abhorrent. Supporting these tactics ultimately leads to a destruction of civilized society, because these tactics are fundamentally uncivilized.
I fully believe that the the ultimate cause of slow destruction of Western countries is not, in fact, due to immigrants or 'leftists', but a lack of morality among these populations. Having turned away from our Lord and King Jesus Christ, and His moral teachings, many in Western countries have adopted non-Christian 'moralities' including principles such as "there are not bad tactics, only bad targets" or "the end justifies the means". These are against God's moral order.
The blueprint for building a civilized society and maintaining one is following God's moral order. He has embedded that truth in the fabric of existence. He has provided us direct access to that blueprint through the Word Incarnate, His Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ. Each of us has the free will to follow the moral order or not, and many of us stumble even when we are trying to follow it, but rejecting it leads only to peril. I firmly believe that is the truth.
unless a whole bunch of well armed, well organized, and well meaning White people
This is why you will get nowhere. "White people" aren't going to do shit. There is no unified culture based on skin color. Culture is based on religion, language and values. You've fallen for your enemy's trap, and are focused on one aspect of yourself that will go nowhere. If you were to instead, for example, identify as a Christian and unify as Christians, you might get somewhere. Alas, you have fallen for the heresy of Darwinism, and think that you have magical genes simply due to your skin color that will, apparently, magically help you fight off your enemies.
The only source of supernatural power that will help you is God. If you humbly turn to Him in prayer, beg His mercy, and ask Him to guide you, you might get somewhere. But Satan's heresies are far more seductive, and you are unable to see through them.
I highly recommend that everyone read "Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation and Political Control" by E. Michael Jones. The author's thesis, which was originally written in the 1990s, is that undermining the moral order though sexual liberation, is being used as a way to control us. Subsequent events since it was first published have supported this thesis. The second edition was recently published and is available at the publisher's website.
The way to liberate oneself from this from of control is to reject sexual liberation and place one's passions under the control of reason. Otherwise we become slaves to sinful passions, which isn't really news as our King taught us:
Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin." John 8:34
Sex is a gift from God that is properly ordered towards the production of children in married couples. This doesn't mean everyone has to be married and have children, the long history of the Church has many saints who were virgins, and each has their own calling. But it does mean that each of us should make a concerted effort to fight against all sexual sins, including pornography, masturbation, and fornication.
It seems exploitative of women especially though, how was it allowed to happen?
Surrogacy primarily benefits women, not men:
- It allows women to have their 'own' children without becoming pregnant. This benefits women who unwilling or unable to become pregnant. In a sense, this allows women to emulate being men, who obviously have no choice but to have someone else carry their children.
- In countries where surrogates are allowed to be compensated financially, it allows the surrogates to rent out their wombs, much like prostitution thus benefiting financial.
Note that women generally support prostitution becomes it allows them to directly sell their sexuality (which many women consider their primary asset). Also, a characteristic modern women, especially in Western societies, is their rejection of their biological roles as the ones to carry and bear children as evidenced by strong support of contraception and of abortion, which is perplexing to me as this is one of God's great gifts to women.
You're right, of course, but that isn't going to sway the critics here. The modern world is full of people who have convinced themselves they know better than everyone else because they have spent five minutes reading watching a video about a topic.
They know everything they need to know about the Vigano and the Pope because they've heard it from the media. Even though they know the media is biased because, apparently, highlighting media bias is meant to be the whole point of this site. Even though they routinely virtue signal about how much they hate journalists ("you don't hate journalists enough!"). They can't see that the reality they perceive is strongly shaped by all this pervasive propaganda, especially with regard to anything that threatens evil, and that only holding on to clear objective principles - such as obeying the hierarchy instituted by our King - can we fight against our enemy, who is none other than the prince of this world.
This is your second post about this in a few days. If something "needs" to be done about Revolt.chat (never heard of it myself) then do it yourself instead of whining here for someone else to do it for you.
I understand what you are saying and don't disagree with your overall comment, but I have to take issue with this:
I do believe men do in fact need to change their behavior around women. Men and women are different. The kinds of things men do with other men to build respect/comradery and to test the men are not things men should be doing to women. Too many men make the mistake of treating women as equal to men when women are not equal to men at all. Men should be treating women as if the women cannot handle confrontation, conflict or anything too disruptive to their feelings. Men should be aware that women internalize everything and that women don't understand how to separate themselves from generalizations. This means men should in fact be "softer" around women because women can't handle men being truly men around women.
Then the times you do engage with women, make sure to treat the women differently because women cannot truly handle being treated the same way men treat men because they are women and they are different.
I think you have misdiagnosed the issue and have things the wrong way around. Men don't and have never treated women the same way they treat men. As we know, feminism isn't really about 'equality' at all. So, feminism itself does not actually advocate for men to treat women like they do other men, but rather feminism advocates for men to treat women the way women want to be treated. This is as opposed to men treating women as men themselves want to treat women, based on the men's own principles.
To give you a mundane example to illustrate my point, a woman asks a man "Does this dress make me look fat?" The dress does indeed make her look fat. The woman values her feelings more than the truth, therefore expects the man to say "No, it doesn't" regardless of reality. Men, however, tend to value truth above preserving 'feelings'. He is inclined to simply say "Yes, it does make you look fat" (and then is mystified when she gets upset - he was just being honest after all).
The feminist solution is for the man to adopt the female value and thus dishonestly tell the woman she doesn't look fat. This is, after all, what the woman's girlfriends would tend to tell her. The proper answer, however, is that male principle here was the the correct one. The principle of honesty is more important than protecting the woman's feelings (in the mundane example above, the man, if he doesn't want an argument, might have to find a way to tiptoe around her feelings while still being honest). This is what men would do among each other - tell it like it is rather than worry about each other's feelings.
Therefore, to overcome feminism, men need to treat women more like they treat men, not less so. Assassin47 has makes a similar point - the issue is feminization of society, in which men are adopting female values, instead of sticking to their own male values. Men need to stick to their own principles, treating women differently for sure, but treating women differently according to their own male values. Not treating women differently according to female values.
Then you underestimate normie gamers/geeks and their inability to resist FOMO.
It's not just "normies". People here consider themselves "non-normie" yet the majority of talk in the last several days here has been about what? A non-normie game(s) that aligns with their values? Or is it this normie game that is woke?
But we need to talk about it to fight against this company doing evil things! (paraphrased)
Sure. It's necessary for most of the posts here to be about it. Great strategy, making sure everyone who participates constantly has this "normie" woke game on their minds because of the sheer volume of talk about it. "There is no such thing as bad publicity" might not be an absolute truism, but it has some truth to it.
Hint: If you want people to avoid playing this woke "normie" game, perhaps the best thing the "non-normie" gamers here could do would be to talk about "non-normie" games that aren't woke? i.e. actually offer them an alternative.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
The problems of the world, political, social or otherwise, flow downstream from sin. That the US government is in the hands of corrupt and evil, quite possibly Satanic, leaders is ultimately down to the sins of the populace. A populace that lacks integrity and will lie if it benefits them. A populace that values money more than what is moral. A populace that replaces the natural law with a new morality based on 'the end justifies the means'. A populace that worships false idols instead of the one true God.
So, when you ask "what can actually be done to fight back?" the answer is simple. It starts with an earnest fight against sin. That starts with each and every one of us, and is something each and every one of us can do.
We are all sinners, yes, but that doesn't mean we have to accept sin within ourselves. We should be earnestly trying to repent and start a new. To be converted by the love and mercy of Our King Jesus Christ and follow His teaching. When we are on that path, we will show His teaching to others through the witness of our lives, and we can start standing up for Him and His Teaching. Standing up for the moral law that God instituted in our world.
More practically, the answer lies in conversion of our hearts. Fighting against the enslavement of sin, which for many men of this age starts with fighting against lust and embracing chastity. Lust, after all, darkens the mind. Why do you think the way of our immoral secular world is a normalization of pornography, masturbation and fornication? It's certainly not for our benefit, despite whatever the Evil One might whisper to us. Of course, we cannot do it by ourselves, so we should pray to our Lord to ask for the grace to overcome sin. We should pray for wisdom so that we may discern between right and wrong, of where we should focus our energies to serve Him. And surrendering our will to Him.
Next week is Holy Week. The week we commemorate the Passion and Crucifixion of Jesus Christ, culminating in His Resurrection and victory of death itself. What better time is there then to turn our hearts to Our Lord?
God has a plan for all of us. One that will serve His plan for the world. Whether we choose to follow Him or not is up to each of us.