Misery loves company, and crabs don't want the others escaping the bucket. Those Whatsapp groups are going to be intensifying the issues, not solving them.
Well that's feminine humans for you, male or female. They can't just drop it, they can't let it go, they think they're right and are entitled, spoilt children wearing adults skins. This is why men throughout history had a.. firm hand, when it came to making women behave themselves. Women can't be trusted to self regulate. Sure, plenty of men can't either, but not to the degree of how basically 90%+ of women can't do it.
Even in the firm hand case men treated men far worse. The whipping post was literally for men who beat their wives, other men would grab the guy and flagellate him in the town square in front of everyone as a humiliation ritual.
Her idea of trad life is being a Canadian and marrying an Australian and moving there. 🤡These trad LARPers are such dumbasses. They are pining for something that was never real. In "trad" times, you married people in your town. Your families knew each other and probably got together relatively frequently. You didn't move to another country to be isolated. These people are fucking retards. They don't know what they are talking about.
How fucking 'trad' can an Australian glowie ever be in the first place, considering the willing globalist puppet that that country's power structure has revealed itself as. Trad or not, she searched the entire world and picked an A1 cunt.
I get that it's hard to be trad when your existing family has disintegrated, but it's still possible. You need to pick a place and reintegrate into the community. The last thing you want to do is start shooting your mouth off about your personal political opinions. In a community, getting along is the priority, not advocating for change.
That's why you don't see any actual trad wives on social media.
Not to mention, like, going to work for 9 hours a day for the man and then coming home and demanding dinner is not trad life. Trad life would be working on your homestead 12 hours a day -- both of you and your kids.
Her whole problem is that there are shitty conservative guys just like there are shitty leftist guys (even if the per capita numbers differ significantly) and she seems to have chosen to get involved with shitty conservative guys.
Therefore, conservative guys bad. And it has nothing to do with her poor judgement.
Let's be fair. This is just her side of the story. We have no idea what went on with the guy who at least isn't publicly bitching about his ex so he's already got a leg up on emotional maturity
No disagreement here. But even if what she says is 100% truthful, her problem is still that she's a poor judge of potential partners.
Also, lots of cat ladies in the comments on that article. And holy fuck was that a lot of words in the article -- I made it only a couple pages in before I bailed.
I think a lot of it depends on when she joined this network of unhappy tradewifes group chat. Because women will actively make other women unhappy even if there's nothing to be really unhappy about
It waffles and repeats itself so hard you can just only read every third sentence and still get 90% of the story. Some of us have shit to do journo lady.
That's the one thing that gets missed in all of the right and left wing's screeching that men are bad and the manosphere are bad. The commentators saying this have a poor judge of character in men and come from a position of bias. If you are consistently having the same thing happen again and again to you, the problem isn't them, it's you. It's no different from the men who have issues with women.
I also think some of this comes down to the biological firmware that we all have which likely explains this line:
The tussle between men and women is a culture war as old as humanity itself.
I think there's also a big discrepancy between the proportion of good to bad.
I know many single guys, with incomes sufficient to support a family, from the ages of 25 - 40.
Every single woman I know either has kids, or double digit body counts. Most of them rely on government gibs and/or have zero savings or assets, financially.
Many men are prepared for marriage, while almost zero women can say the same.
There's is something regarding hard line ideological individuals that just attracts those with dark triad traits, abusive and deviant behaviour whether by male feminists readily catalogued on the left or the devout Christian conservatives on the right that will come out (as it did with closeted anti-gay conservative men in politics in the 80s and 90s). We've also seen the same thing happen in cults. There's something to be said to not become ideological and devout.
Why are women so fucking dumb about who they choose to hang out with? Even when they're in their late 20's and 30's they keep acting like they're rebellious teenagers telling mom and dad to fuck off and go get gangbanged by 6+ strangers.
I ran for local political office a few years ago and one of the things I was advised to do was to get makeup for TV appearances.
I'm a man, I don't wear makeup, subsequently I didn't win.
I don't think there's been a real conservative face since Nixon debated Kennedy. Who's the most exemplified conservative in the US? Ronald Reagan, a Hollywood actor.
None of these "online conservatives" are legit, they just made money exploiting the zeitgeist.
she seems to have chosen to get involved with shitty conservative guys.
Well and she also claims that trad life attracts shitty guys. Thus besmirching for no reason guys who want a trad life.
Honestly, she made a mistake that is so common that I think most married people have done it. She went from thinking "my husband is a piece of shit" to "trad men are pieces of shit."
I mean there's a reason kids of single moms almost always turn out worthless. It's a job that truly can't be done right by one person, even absent all other responsibilities.
If your trad playbook is husband just earns all the money and wife just does all the kid stuff, you're gonna have shitty kids and a resentful relationship.
If the husband helps play with and look after the kids, and the wife learns to look after money properly and hustles a little in her free time whilst the husband helps with kids, you're going to get better results.
One - obviously all committed to their children's wellbeing, since you typically have to actively fight for them to become a single dad, instead of defaulting into single motherhood
Two - not afflicted with retarded girlbossitis, and go out of their way to find someone to help raise their kids instead of throwing them in shitty daycare to chase his dreams. Even if it's help from family instead of romamtic partners it's better than nothing.
And three - just because it's an impossible job alone, doesn't mean your average man can't still do a better partial success than average women.
And bear in mind it's only better, lots of kids of single dads are still way more fucked up than ones from complete families.
Just cause the mom is fucked up doesnt mean the dad isnt as well? Also wouldnt that imply the moms who had custody were actually the better single mom that were available yet they still had huge disparities in outcome compared to single dads and 2 parents
Just cause the mom is fucked up doesnt mean the dad isnt as well?
I think you're missing my point. That's not what I'm saying. I'm going to make up some numbers so you can see what I'm getting at. Assume that good/bad parenting has a normal distribution in both sexes. Half good, half bad. If a father has to be 25% better than the mother to get custody, it means the bottom 25% of fathers never get custody (a 0.0001% mother would be picked over a 24.999% father). So you're comparing the averages of 0-100 quality for women and 25-100 quality for men.
Yes there are cases where both parents are lousy, but if they were equally lousy, the court would have given custody to the mother anyway. Meaning, on average, single fathers are going to be better parents than single mothers. Even if men and women had the exact same distribution of parenting ability.
I mean assuming it's a normal distribution in both sexes would already be a huge assumption because the numbers don't really bare that out If that was true,
I think you're a bit too focused on the numerical idea that 0-25 quality mothers are to blame for their horrible stats but I think it's trying too hard to put a quantitative quality number on an abstract like parenthood.
Basically your child will get plenty of female role models with female teachers etc for young kids being very common. Unfortunately if you take a dad away there aren't really any other male influences in our society.
I agree that the husband should at least spend some time with the kids/help out a little, but I completely disagree that the wife should work. At all.
In an ideal trad situation, the wife should be at home, looking after the kids and everything else there. Not working. As was literally the norm until relatively recently...
Not saying it is necessarily feasible to do that, in our current society, in most Western countries, but that is the ideal that should be pursued where/as much as possible, IMHO...
By hustle I mean keep an eye out for sales on goods they need or purchases they intend to make, save money by making stuff from ingredients instead of buying ready made, or little remote work jobs with no obligatory hours (the AI LLM answer checking stuff still pays $22+/hr for anyone with just decent written comprehension skills, until that collapses)
Any time spent working is time not spent looking after the house. In reasonable human society, none of the women would work and they would help each other raise kids and manage households, cooking and doing light house repair etc.
My wife doesn’t work. I don’t want her to work. I want her to make sure I never have to deal with a single house issue.
Yeah, there should be zero requirement for a stay at home Mom to earn any money. The bread winner should be making sure she has the money to buy what she needs, and a little bit of spending money just for her.
That said, she should be able to manage family savings and even some investing. But her focus should be on saving money, not earning it.
Being a woman comes first, their political stances and principles come after that. The urge to victimize themselves will always win out over any "trad" principles that are very much against that.
Its why literally any female talking head on the Right should be laughed out of the room. No matter how "based" they seem.
Single moms grouped together tend to be the worst as they reinforce their negative tendencies trying to claim NOTHING was their fault and it's the world's fault.
Better they hang out with married moms or at least single dads just so they aren't trapped in a bubble and at least single dads means there's a chance to make a new family out of that.
Women are basically like apples where one bad one spoils the whole bunch, and we made it completely culturally impossible to segregate the rotten ones from the good ones for any reason.
I'm pretty certain that my ex left me and two kids on the advice of a single Mom friend. She then proceeded to flush her life down the toilet so hard that the same friend decided to call child services on her.
Don't ever take advice from a single woman, especially if you are a woman.
If you've read the holy texts and what's prescribed in Islamic law based on said texts regarding marriage and divorce, you'll discover it's even more gynocentric than western, Christian influenced laws on marriage and divorce.
With half the labor market taking care of the children, that would improve take home salaries, reduce child care costs, improve child care & save the environment!
She self destructed hard around the time she fell from glory (plus she was always a thot). Out of nowhere lost a ton of weight and looked stretched out. If memory serves she was bouncing from a bunch of different dicks. Can't remember the specifics but the closest thing she had to an actual relationship blew up badly back then.
Edit: I vaguely recall something about her homosexual producers stealing the money for her funding or whatever. A bunch of stupid drama back when she disappeared.
There is a reason Desantis went all in on feminism, and red states all had big parties for the Barbie movie launch with girls prancing around in pink and near naked. Feminism is alive and well in the "conservative" movement. Dalrock back in the day had huge posts on that, as did other dissident Christians.
I didn't read the whole article but it sounds like she's admitting she was never really a tradwife. The charade is over. She'd rather go on OnlyFans than go to the kitchen.
And yet, every manosphere talking point had turned out not to match her experience.
There is one aspect of the "manosphere" that actively opposes the concept of marriage. So vilified, they have their own community here to avoid persecution on other supposedly "free speech" forums because commentators keep demanding their closure for wrongthink and those forums capitulate to the mob.
But yes, this is another article that denounces the tradwife concept and yet one of the many ones that also denounces the red pill and the manosphere.
If I could sum up a tl;dr for the article, it would be "don't get married ladies and touch grass because everything you're told online is the polar opposite of the real world and you'll be happier for it".
Something else we already knew but the article confirms it, Southern is going on an all out war against the manosphere. Something that has been picked up by other right wing commentators coming to arms with their left wing counterparts.
Ahahahahahaha... I wondered why she fucked off back to Canada, and stopped talking about her husband/being a tradwife entirely, and why her politics seemed to have shifted (again)...
All I can say is that I feel for her poor kid. Much though Lauren was "famous", and had done a lot of media stuff by the time she shacked up, I never thought she was mature enough, at that point, to make the apparent "lifestyle change" she claimed...
Seems I was right, as, I'm sure, were many others here.
The real moral of the story, which she probably didn't intend to tell, is that governments can easily unleash enough psychic torture on anybody they want to completely rewire their fundamental beliefs.
I mean, it’s not quite the same, of course, but my University has attempted to “reprogram” me more than once, because I wasn’t playing their mind games and becoming adequately brainwashed, lol…
They even (unsuccessfully) tried to make me swear that I was “reformed”, and “knew better now”, re things that happened in my personal life, totally outside of the classroom (and which should have been none of their business)…
So I guess it’s not just the government that does it…
Man, what happened to Southern? Her book "Barbarians" was phenomenal, and she used to push all the right buttons to annoy the left. Now she's a whiny snot.
I suppose the funding/support dried up when/shortly before she shacked up, and then she followed the guy, made a bunch of stupid decisions, and now is desperately trying to stay "relevant", when she clearly isn't anymore...
I hate to say it, but I doubt she was ever as "independent" or "transgressive" as she made herself out to be...
Our stories are symmetrical in some respects: both of us embraced radical politics in our early twenties, me on the Left and Southern on the Right. Both of us embraced ideologies that felt inspiring in the free-floating world of the internet. And both of us, albeit in different ways, have course-corrected back toward reality in part via the fiercely practical experience of caring for a child.
False equivalency. While the progressives were spinning out of control, completely unhinged. Conservatives were simply trying to reassert some common sense after the progressive lunacy started seeping into mainstream culture and had been the prevailing norm amongst the establishment for several decades.
Also, clearly Lauren Southern spectacularly failed in her marriage. She comes across as a complete numpty. (As does the writer of this bad article.)
She thought, she told me, that “as long as I put on the high heels and the lipstick when my husband comes home, as long as I cook the best meal, as long as I’m always submissive, and say yes, sir, whatever you want, things will go fantastic.” And if it’s not fantastic? The listicle version of traditionalism would just say she should make more effort.
It was, she says, “an embarrassing wake up call, finding myself consistently applying these rules and instructions I found on Twitter, and then never getting the results they were supposed to get, in the real realm of relationships”.
rofl
In turn, both Southern and other women I spoke to within her wider “underground railroad” of ex-trad women think that, perhaps like its Left-wing analogue, the extremely online nature of this gender ideology attracts a higher than usual proportion of individuals with existing psychological issues.
You don't say.
Southern is careful to emphasise that she knows many traditionalists in happy, loving, complementary marriages. But, she says, it’s a fallen world, and her community includes many women whose husbands seem to have been drawn to listicle-style gender ideology precisely because of the power it offers over women. “Those guys want someone they feel they can definitely control, who’s never going to leave them, who they can do anything to.”
When the fantasy world meets the real world.
When she first announced her marriage, she says, she’d been lauded by friends and fans; then, when she announced the separation she was inundated with messages lamenting how her life was ruined. But in both cases the exact opposite was true: “Post-divorce, after becoming a single mother, my mental health started to improve. I started to repair all these really important friendships. And I’m living a much happier, much healthier life than I was before….Some of the most miserable people I’ve met – in fact, absolutely the most miserable people I’ve met – have been stuck in this weird, larpy trad dynamic.” The happiest people she knows, on the other hand, “are just living in reality”.
But even that cabin-in-the-woods episode sounded like a big LARP-attempt of her to guilt-trip him into coming to rescue her or to set-up her 'personal narrative' that she was going to use to return to the limelight. And lol@the ant infested cabin. We all know it was just a couple of ants that trailed through a window or something. It happens to even the best kept homes.
Southern thinks the internet’s baked-in incentives encourage this drift toward ever more caricatured viral politics. For example, she tells me that where earlier generations of “red-pill” content merely focused on exploiting women sexually, it “has become just teaching men to hate women” – simply because this is a simpler, cheaper, and more viral message and therefore easier to sell.
Or it's just a normal reaction of average day people to the batshit insanity of fourth wave feminists -- arguably a group of the most loathsome creatures on the internet guilty of the most contemptible behavior imaginable.
A pessimist might say the future looks bleak for interpersonal relationships, indeed for our public life tout court. But I think Southern’s story offers cause for optimism. It suggests that maybe, just maybe, our current crop of internet-generated political derangements will turn out to be a temporary symptom, driven by generations who grew up without the internet and hence without much psychological defence against its many pathologies.
Or just maybe these political derangements will keep on going due to government involvement (radical feminism is a state-held belief) and Big Tech sponsorship and manipulation.
And she keeps framing her:
Even the erstwhile queen bee of the extremely online radical Right is now a convert to “living in reality”.
It's called the "tingles". The opposite is called being boring and that is a major red flag for any potential relationship. It's also why drama as a media genre is very popular.
It's not even Rollo's stuff, to be fair. "Tingles" and many other now common redpill terms go back to when the center of the "manosphere" could be found on the NNTP group "alt.seduction" and other similar NNTP servers. Even before the advent of the "Eternal September" that brings us to the current day...
Yeah, I am that old and found reading the stuff posted fascinating. There was a lot of overlap with talk about evolutionary psychology at the time.
Don't ever hang out with unhappy women. They will literally drag you down to be like them.
Underrated fucking post. Negative men will drag you down too, but negative women will drown you and scramble over your corpse for a sliver of comfort
Misery loves company, and crabs don't want the others escaping the bucket. Those Whatsapp groups are going to be intensifying the issues, not solving them.
Yes. They just keep getting more and more riled up instead of forgetting it like a normal person. Every small slight becomes a huge thing
Well that's feminine humans for you, male or female. They can't just drop it, they can't let it go, they think they're right and are entitled, spoilt children wearing adults skins. This is why men throughout history had a.. firm hand, when it came to making women behave themselves. Women can't be trusted to self regulate. Sure, plenty of men can't either, but not to the degree of how basically 90%+ of women can't do it.
Even in the firm hand case men treated men far worse. The whipping post was literally for men who beat their wives, other men would grab the guy and flagellate him in the town square in front of everyone as a humiliation ritual.
They day women emotionally mature faster but all this actually means is they never gain emotional control and stop developing sooner
And any married women in that bucket will soon be convinced that they can do better, even if they're an empty egg carton.
tldr, she claims being a tradwife isn't doable in the real life because she couldn't do it
add in random comments about toxic masculinity etc etc etc
Her idea of trad life is being a Canadian and marrying an Australian and moving there. 🤡These trad LARPers are such dumbasses. They are pining for something that was never real. In "trad" times, you married people in your town. Your families knew each other and probably got together relatively frequently. You didn't move to another country to be isolated. These people are fucking retards. They don't know what they are talking about.
Trad step 1: Marry a federal agent
Trad step 2: Fed divorces you for handicapping his career
Trad step 3: Trailer park single mom
How fucking 'trad' can an Australian glowie ever be in the first place, considering the willing globalist puppet that that country's power structure has revealed itself as. Trad or not, she searched the entire world and picked an A1 cunt.
I get that it's hard to be trad when your existing family has disintegrated, but it's still possible. You need to pick a place and reintegrate into the community. The last thing you want to do is start shooting your mouth off about your personal political opinions. In a community, getting along is the priority, not advocating for change.
That's why you don't see any actual trad wives on social media.
Not to mention, like, going to work for 9 hours a day for the man and then coming home and demanding dinner is not trad life. Trad life would be working on your homestead 12 hours a day -- both of you and your kids.
Her whole problem is that there are shitty conservative guys just like there are shitty leftist guys (even if the per capita numbers differ significantly) and she seems to have chosen to get involved with shitty conservative guys.
Therefore, conservative guys bad. And it has nothing to do with her poor judgement.
Let's be fair. This is just her side of the story. We have no idea what went on with the guy who at least isn't publicly bitching about his ex so he's already got a leg up on emotional maturity
No disagreement here. But even if what she says is 100% truthful, her problem is still that she's a poor judge of potential partners.
Also, lots of cat ladies in the comments on that article. And holy fuck was that a lot of words in the article -- I made it only a couple pages in before I bailed.
I think a lot of it depends on when she joined this network of unhappy tradewifes group chat. Because women will actively make other women unhappy even if there's nothing to be really unhappy about
It waffles and repeats itself so hard you can just only read every third sentence and still get 90% of the story. Some of us have shit to do journo lady.
Women refuse to be concise.
When you can't create an argument that's too airtight to critique you learn to create an argument that's too long to be worth correcting instead.
That's the one thing that gets missed in all of the right and left wing's screeching that men are bad and the manosphere are bad. The commentators saying this have a poor judge of character in men and come from a position of bias. If you are consistently having the same thing happen again and again to you, the problem isn't them, it's you. It's no different from the men who have issues with women.
I also think some of this comes down to the biological firmware that we all have which likely explains this line:
Men are more likely to at least admit they're the problem but lack the will or means to fix it.
I think there's also a big discrepancy between the proportion of good to bad.
I know many single guys, with incomes sufficient to support a family, from the ages of 25 - 40.
Every single woman I know either has kids, or double digit body counts. Most of them rely on government gibs and/or have zero savings or assets, financially.
Many men are prepared for marriage, while almost zero women can say the same.
There's is something regarding hard line ideological individuals that just attracts those with dark triad traits, abusive and deviant behaviour whether by male feminists readily catalogued on the left or the devout Christian conservatives on the right that will come out (as it did with closeted anti-gay conservative men in politics in the 80s and 90s). We've also seen the same thing happen in cults. There's something to be said to not become ideological and devout.
The telltale sign of stunted development.
The women today are the daughters of the first women to embrace feminism.
Feminist teachings literally result in their daughters intentionally dating abusive criminals to show off how "independent" they are.
You don't see actual conservatives in media.
I ran for local political office a few years ago and one of the things I was advised to do was to get makeup for TV appearances.
I'm a man, I don't wear makeup, subsequently I didn't win.
I don't think there's been a real conservative face since Nixon debated Kennedy. Who's the most exemplified conservative in the US? Ronald Reagan, a Hollywood actor.
None of these "online conservatives" are legit, they just made money exploiting the zeitgeist.
Yeah, the cons are just political theater. Not surprising the beautiful people are up to their usual shit.
Women never change. What they are in their teens they will always be. Hence why patriarchy is a requirement for pygmy level civilizations and up.
Ideology (feminism and tradwifery) are informed by culture which is informed by biology.
I did always wonder how she got so big, so fast, at such a young age...
So maybe there's something to that.
What is "couch casting behaviour", may I ask..?
The 'casting couch' is what Harvey Weinstein did: letting actresses earn their position on their backs.
Her problem specifically is that she married a fed.
There is some strong selection bias at play. Being a single mom overwhelmingly turns away the good men.
Well and she also claims that trad life attracts shitty guys. Thus besmirching for no reason guys who want a trad life.
Honestly, she made a mistake that is so common that I think most married people have done it. She went from thinking "my husband is a piece of shit" to "trad men are pieces of shit."
I mean there's a reason kids of single moms almost always turn out worthless. It's a job that truly can't be done right by one person, even absent all other responsibilities.
If your trad playbook is husband just earns all the money and wife just does all the kid stuff, you're gonna have shitty kids and a resentful relationship.
If the husband helps play with and look after the kids, and the wife learns to look after money properly and hustles a little in her free time whilst the husband helps with kids, you're going to get better results.
Then why do single dads have better outcomes than single moms generally?
Because single dads are
One - obviously all committed to their children's wellbeing, since you typically have to actively fight for them to become a single dad, instead of defaulting into single motherhood
Two - not afflicted with retarded girlbossitis, and go out of their way to find someone to help raise their kids instead of throwing them in shitty daycare to chase his dreams. Even if it's help from family instead of romamtic partners it's better than nothing.
And three - just because it's an impossible job alone, doesn't mean your average man can't still do a better partial success than average women.
And bear in mind it's only better, lots of kids of single dads are still way more fucked up than ones from complete families.
Do you have any idea how fucked up a mom has to be for the father to be awarded sole custody? Huge selection bias at work.
Just cause the mom is fucked up doesnt mean the dad isnt as well? Also wouldnt that imply the moms who had custody were actually the better single mom that were available yet they still had huge disparities in outcome compared to single dads and 2 parents
I think you're missing my point. That's not what I'm saying. I'm going to make up some numbers so you can see what I'm getting at. Assume that good/bad parenting has a normal distribution in both sexes. Half good, half bad. If a father has to be 25% better than the mother to get custody, it means the bottom 25% of fathers never get custody (a 0.0001% mother would be picked over a 24.999% father). So you're comparing the averages of 0-100 quality for women and 25-100 quality for men.
Yes there are cases where both parents are lousy, but if they were equally lousy, the court would have given custody to the mother anyway. Meaning, on average, single fathers are going to be better parents than single mothers. Even if men and women had the exact same distribution of parenting ability.
I mean assuming it's a normal distribution in both sexes would already be a huge assumption because the numbers don't really bare that out If that was true,
I think you're a bit too focused on the numerical idea that 0-25 quality mothers are to blame for their horrible stats but I think it's trying too hard to put a quantitative quality number on an abstract like parenthood.
Basically your child will get plenty of female role models with female teachers etc for young kids being very common. Unfortunately if you take a dad away there aren't really any other male influences in our society.
I agree that the husband should at least spend some time with the kids/help out a little, but I completely disagree that the wife should work. At all.
In an ideal trad situation, the wife should be at home, looking after the kids and everything else there. Not working. As was literally the norm until relatively recently...
Not saying it is necessarily feasible to do that, in our current society, in most Western countries, but that is the ideal that should be pursued where/as much as possible, IMHO...
By hustle I mean keep an eye out for sales on goods they need or purchases they intend to make, save money by making stuff from ingredients instead of buying ready made, or little remote work jobs with no obligatory hours (the AI LLM answer checking stuff still pays $22+/hr for anyone with just decent written comprehension skills, until that collapses)
Any time spent working is time not spent looking after the house. In reasonable human society, none of the women would work and they would help each other raise kids and manage households, cooking and doing light house repair etc.
My wife doesn’t work. I don’t want her to work. I want her to make sure I never have to deal with a single house issue.
Yeah, there should be zero requirement for a stay at home Mom to earn any money. The bread winner should be making sure she has the money to buy what she needs, and a little bit of spending money just for her.
That said, she should be able to manage family savings and even some investing. But her focus should be on saving money, not earning it.
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it was a woman who posted about it, pearl davis.
Do you have that link? I would greatly appreciate it.
https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1773070976764334176?t=QPURdGDs17g8nrZJfgZunw&s=19
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Pearl Davis and Lauren Southern huh? Two shit-stirring bitches
Just further proof that women no matter what side love to crab bucket each other.
I thought sniping other women was Pearl's thing.
Thank you.
Being a woman comes first, their political stances and principles come after that. The urge to victimize themselves will always win out over any "trad" principles that are very much against that.
Its why literally any female talking head on the Right should be laughed out of the room. No matter how "based" they seem.
Single moms grouped together tend to be the worst as they reinforce their negative tendencies trying to claim NOTHING was their fault and it's the world's fault.
Better they hang out with married moms or at least single dads just so they aren't trapped in a bubble and at least single dads means there's a chance to make a new family out of that.
Women are basically like apples where one bad one spoils the whole bunch, and we made it completely culturally impossible to segregate the rotten ones from the good ones for any reason.
I'm pretty certain that my ex left me and two kids on the advice of a single Mom friend. She then proceeded to flush her life down the toilet so hard that the same friend decided to call child services on her.
Don't ever take advice from a single woman, especially if you are a woman.
Islam is right about women.
Also, notice the smug, fake smile. She clearly isn't happy and putting on an act.
If you've read the holy texts and what's prescribed in Islamic law based on said texts regarding marriage and divorce, you'll discover it's even more gynocentric than western, Christian influenced laws on marriage and divorce.
What's next Mohammed? Arranging marriages and forcing them to stay at home?
Yes.
Thanks for the ideas by the way. I would have never considered them without you.
With half the labor market taking care of the children, that would improve take home salaries, reduce child care costs, improve child care & save the environment!
Wow u/gopower2024 you have some great ideas!
Why is she a single mom?
people who think they're girl bosses generally don't play well in marriages
She self destructed hard around the time she fell from glory (plus she was always a thot). Out of nowhere lost a ton of weight and looked stretched out. If memory serves she was bouncing from a bunch of different dicks. Can't remember the specifics but the closest thing she had to an actual relationship blew up badly back then.
Edit: I vaguely recall something about her homosexual producers stealing the money for her funding or whatever. A bunch of stupid drama back when she disappeared.
There is a reason Desantis went all in on feminism, and red states all had big parties for the Barbie movie launch with girls prancing around in pink and near naked. Feminism is alive and well in the "conservative" movement. Dalrock back in the day had huge posts on that, as did other dissident Christians.
Cuz she had a kid in Australia and took it back to Canada without its Dad. I'm surprised there are replies other than this.
LOL A "tradwife" that spends her day trying to get noticed on Twitter, and writing op eds for political websites.
Bitch, delete Twitter, stop writing articles and go to the kitchen.
IF there is any actual tradwife left in the west, we don't know who she is, because she's not exposing herself online, desperate to get famous.
I didn't read the whole article but it sounds like she's admitting she was never really a tradwife. The charade is over. She'd rather go on OnlyFans than go to the kitchen.
"traditional woman media personality"
Once you realize those words don't go together all that's left is that ho over there.
I suspect this advert in the middle of the article, with a pic from that new faggy tennis movie, tells me more about the piece than the text does.
You can tell women and men enjoy polyamory so much, that every one of them that is into it is pierced, tatted, drugged and super unhappy looking.
There is one aspect of the "manosphere" that actively opposes the concept of marriage. So vilified, they have their own community here to avoid persecution on other supposedly "free speech" forums because commentators keep demanding their closure for wrongthink and those forums capitulate to the mob.
But yes, this is another article that denounces the tradwife concept and yet one of the many ones that also denounces the red pill and the manosphere.
If I could sum up a tl;dr for the article, it would be "don't get married ladies and touch grass because everything you're told online is the polar opposite of the real world and you'll be happier for it".
Something else we already knew but the article confirms it, Southern is going on an all out war against the manosphere. Something that has been picked up by other right wing commentators coming to arms with their left wing counterparts.
Oh, so that's what happened...
Ahahahahahaha... I wondered why she fucked off back to Canada, and stopped talking about her husband/being a tradwife entirely, and why her politics seemed to have shifted (again)...
All I can say is that I feel for her poor kid. Much though Lauren was "famous", and had done a lot of media stuff by the time she shacked up, I never thought she was mature enough, at that point, to make the apparent "lifestyle change" she claimed...
Seems I was right, as, I'm sure, were many others here.
Slight return: Man, she reads as incredibly stupid and naive, in that sharticle...
I have a reasonable amount of sympathy for abuse victims (if she actually was, in this case), but god does she ever read as incredibly dumb, here...
Also, "his job required a high level of government security clearance" - who on earth did she marry, does anyone actually know??!
Lol, imagine if it were some hood rat that fed her a story that she swallowed and now has to keep pushing so she doesn't look like an idiot.
The real moral of the story, which she probably didn't intend to tell, is that governments can easily unleash enough psychic torture on anybody they want to completely rewire their fundamental beliefs.
Because her hubby was a fed, I assume..?
But also yes. Foodie Dostoevsky says hi.
I mean, it’s not quite the same, of course, but my University has attempted to “reprogram” me more than once, because I wasn’t playing their mind games and becoming adequately brainwashed, lol…
They even (unsuccessfully) tried to make me swear that I was “reformed”, and “knew better now”, re things that happened in my personal life, totally outside of the classroom (and which should have been none of their business)…
So I guess it’s not just the government that does it…
University is government
Man, what happened to Southern? Her book "Barbarians" was phenomenal, and she used to push all the right buttons to annoy the left. Now she's a whiny snot.
hit the wall
Good ghost writer, would be my guess...
I suppose the funding/support dried up when/shortly before she shacked up, and then she followed the guy, made a bunch of stupid decisions, and now is desperately trying to stay "relevant", when she clearly isn't anymore...
I hate to say it, but I doubt she was ever as "independent" or "transgressive" as she made herself out to be...
The resounding message: stop listening to whores of all stripes, ESPECIALLY the ones who claim they aren't whores.
False equivalency. While the progressives were spinning out of control, completely unhinged. Conservatives were simply trying to reassert some common sense after the progressive lunacy started seeping into mainstream culture and had been the prevailing norm amongst the establishment for several decades.
Also, clearly Lauren Southern spectacularly failed in her marriage. She comes across as a complete numpty. (As does the writer of this bad article.)
rofl
You don't say.
When the fantasy world meets the real world.
But even that cabin-in-the-woods episode sounded like a big LARP-attempt of her to guilt-trip him into coming to rescue her or to set-up her 'personal narrative' that she was going to use to return to the limelight. And lol@the ant infested cabin. We all know it was just a couple of ants that trailed through a window or something. It happens to even the best kept homes.
Or it's just a normal reaction of average day people to the batshit insanity of fourth wave feminists -- arguably a group of the most loathsome creatures on the internet guilty of the most contemptible behavior imaginable.
Or just maybe these political derangements will keep on going due to government involvement (radical feminism is a state-held belief) and Big Tech sponsorship and manipulation.
And she keeps framing her:
Creepy writer.
She's like the most basic bitch now.
Am I really supposed to believe that this woman who fucked every guy in the right wing with an ounce of clout was ever “trad”?
When did this goofball become a single mom
Between her and Dave Rubin's TMZ knockoff, it's tough to remain subscribed for Matt Christiansen's stuff.
I feel bad for Matt.
He tried to branch out a bit but his views seem stagnant with the brand.
Matt's fine, same as he's ever been, but I'm not thrilled about the rest of the outfit he's hitched his wagon to.
It's called the "tingles". The opposite is called being boring and that is a major red flag for any potential relationship. It's also why drama as a media genre is very popular.
"Tingles" is standard red pill terminology.
It's not even Rollo's stuff, to be fair. "Tingles" and many other now common redpill terms go back to when the center of the "manosphere" could be found on the NNTP group "alt.seduction" and other similar NNTP servers. Even before the advent of the "Eternal September" that brings us to the current day...
Yeah, I am that old and found reading the stuff posted fascinating. There was a lot of overlap with talk about evolutionary psychology at the time.
Bb is the only redpill dude I still watch
I quit paying attention to her years ago. I only hear about her here.
She's being pushed hard by her new media company. I wouldnt be surprised if this new article was part of that push
First she got railed hard. Now she's getting pushed hard.
Her new media company is Lauren Chen and her husband.
Tenet media isnt it