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Advil Launches “Believe My Pain” campaign about “racial inequality” in pain management
posted 2 years ago by Ahaus667 2 years ago by Ahaus667 +46 / -0

https://www.believemypain.com/

Years ago I posted a study on here that came to the “same” conclusion. Which is, when asked, black people believe they don’t receive equal pain management, despite no medical difference in diagnosis. The absurdity is unreal.

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– Smith1980 37 points 2 years ago +37 / -0

I just chalk it up to being brainwashed to the point where you can’t play Pong or eat breakfast without finding some racial conspiracy or undertones. I got into an argument with a black woman who said I needed a doctor that represented me and I said my Asian doctor is great and he makes the correct diagnosis. All I need

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– cccpneveragain 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

Have you seen Pong though? Everything in the game is made up of whites! Everything! Blacks are as usual forced to the background.

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– Smith1980 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Ha! I guess I forgot. Haven’t played it since the early 90s when my friend’s uncle gave him his old Atari

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– cccpneveragain 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Yeah at least originally it was white monochrome, so I was making a half joke. One bored weekend I thought about making a parody full of disclaimers and genders and rainbow flags then getting to a game that can't be played because the ball didn't consent to being hit around. Then I figured if I put it up on Steam I might actually get a positive reception from the journalists a d didn't want that.

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– Smith1980 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Yea that would get some gaming awards

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Asian males have the most hurdles in place to becoming a doctor, so I trust them the most. Although I've had shit doctors of every race/sex combo.

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– AgilePickle1123 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Huh? Most Asian people are more likely to have a higher IQ based on genetic studies. I’d say that’s far from a barrier, plus most have to be super smart in order to actually get accepted because Affirmative action works against them even more than whites.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

most have to be super smart in order to actually get accepted because Affirmative action works against them even more than whites.

That's exactly my point. The system works against them the hardest, therefore the ones that make it through tend to be the best.

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– AgilePickle1123 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No no no, clearly you need a black doctor that makes the wrong diagnoses you bigot!

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– current_horror 31 points 2 years ago +31 / -0

Black peoples have been conditioned to believe that every problem they face is the fault of white peoples. This absolves black peoples of any accountability whatsoever, and so their cultures are never prompted to evolve by the constraints of our Darwinian reality. They’re basically dependent, belligerent, violent children who fall into total chaos, poverty, corruption, and misery the moment they are left to their own devices - and it’s all your fault, whitey.

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– Assassin47 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

They fill one evolutionary niche in Darwinian reality - the Parasite that extracts resources from its host just long enough to reproduce and find another host. Still other groups see this and take advantage of the situation. Those are the Scavengers, waiting to feast on the carcass of the defeated host. Could also be considered opportunistic feeders.

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– Happygo 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

You're even blaming whites for why they suck because we don't hold them accountable like that's our job to parent them.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

I mean, technically speaking on a cultural level it is. We chose to bring an extremely undeveloped culture into our country and then basically just cut the tether one day and said "you're equal now, have fun". It'd be like aliens abducting a bunch of humans, bringing us to their home planet, then expecting us to adapt to their warp-capable civilization on our own. That doesn't happen naturally no matter how much time you give it.

The problem is that instead of parenting, western society does the opposite. They coddle, play favorites, and actively sabotage any attempts at growth. We've created an entire culture of spoiled children who never have to grow up because they always get their way.

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– Happygo 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Lol no. I refuse to make black people my problem. My problem is figuring out how to keep them away from me.

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– Kaarous 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

We? Didn't know I was a dutch jew.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Nobody forced the founders of this country to buy those slaves. They should have told the happy merchants to fuck off and bring their problems elsewhere.

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– Kaarous 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Correct. Sink the boats, pick your own damn cotton.

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– AgilePickle1123 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Let’s not ignore the history here. Picking cotton during a Georgia summer sucked ass, and slaves were practically pennies on the dime when it came to cheap mass labor. This allowed the South to gain massive traction in wealth that rivaled the central government (aka New York bankers aka Jews). This is the real reason the Civil War was fought, anyone who believes it was to liberate black people is fucking retarded. The central government couldn’t handle losing the power they had and the south very much could’ve seceded and been self-sustaining even to this day.

The government alongside the northern states began a smear campaign saying things like all slave owners would kill and maim their slaves for fun (maybe some did but in most cases killing your workers isn’t ideal for business and most were relatively tame and even allowed a lot of time for blacks to learn trades that eventually helped them get jobs after being freed). They also colluded to override state laws to create underground railroads to essentially steal and “liberate” the property of Southern plantations. Yet again undermining state’s rights while pushing the propaganda that the North were the good guys.

I can go even further and clarify how this problem stems even further back to when Alexander Hamilton pushed for the banks to find a home smack dab in New York City as even at our country’s founding the North and South operated very differently and often didn’t agree on much. To the point where many founding fathers predicted the civil war. In hindsight the biggest fallacy of our nations founding is not finding the right balance between state rights and the power of a central government, if one even exists. I don’t get paid enough to answer that question even if I could.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I don't doubt that slavery produces very good value in the short term. If it didn't, it wouldn't have been practiced by every society in human history until about 150 years ago.

The problem is that you can't free slaves without them becoming a permanent liability. They'll never, ever forgive you no matter what you do for them. Therefore the only real solution is extreme brutality. Castration, execution, extermination. But I'm morally against those things, so my only option would be to not have slaves in the first place.

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– fauxgnaws 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

We chose to bring an extremely undeveloped culture into our country ... It'd be like aliens abducting a bunch of humans, bringing us to their home planet, then expecting us to adapt

Totally correct except for that one word. It's not a culture problem.

It's exactly like we were plopped down on an alien planet; we would have no chance at being equal. It wouldn't matter if we were raised as one of their own from birth, humans are simply not going to be solving interstellar travel physics problems before breakfast.

And it wouldn't help anybody to pretend otherwise.

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– AgilePickle1123 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe not then, but culture certainly is a problem now. The glorification of criminals through rap, crab in a bucket mentality, crime rates, studies showing the link between popularity and test scores. You can use that argument after 20-40 years of being liberated from slavery, I’d even go as far to say that you can use that argument 20-40 years after the end of segregation. But now here we are 60 years later and black culture has turned into anti-white propaganda and the pursuit of self-interests over helping the community. They were given so many opportunities to show that if they were in the opposite position, they wouldn’t have done the same thing. Unfortunately actions speak much louder than words, and most of us have seen enough to know.

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– RoulerBleu 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Nobody is stopping blacks from taking NSAIDs like Advil ( ibuprofen ).

They want special treatment again.

And opioids. But blacks cannot be trusted not to abuse opioid medications.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Ok, weird thought here. I doubt most people understand pain. Breaking a femur is considered the absolute worst pain to experience. Even Child Birth is below it. I've broken a femur, and had to slowly heal which meant dealing with a lot of pain. Because of that I have a higher pain threshold.

I know people who have experienced a 5/10 at best. Since this is the highest pain they have experienced, it is all they have to compare to. So it may be low in reality, to them that is a 10. It then transfers. A 3 is actually a 6 or even an 8.

A friend of mine had a botched brain operation and has opinions on pain meds. Definitely a high count. So pain relief for the friend is very different than others. An aspirin is for a 3-4, while a friend who has only experienced a 6 will think they need a delatin for their pain. Yes I know I misspelled it.

So getting the same prescription might not work because of all these people who think their 2 is an 8.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

That's not so much a "weird thought" as a cornerstone of how maturation works. Kids think having to go to bed is the worst thing in the world because in their particular frame of reference, it is. They've never experienced anything worse. Not yet. Life is about gradually having increasingly bad things happen to you and becoming stronger because of it.

In other words, good times create weak men.

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– AgilePickle1123 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

We are currently in the “weak men create hard times” phase

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– Benevolentdictator 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

The 10-point Pain rating scale is complete pseudoscience nonsense and has led to terrible outcomes. It was essentially created by Big Pharma to push opioid sales for chronic pain.

Those who work in healthcare will tell you that anyone who declares "I have a high pain tolerance" immediately has red flagged themselves as a nightmare patient with a personality disorder (not including OP, mostly neurotic and BPD women).

The only way to evaluate pain tolerance is to experience it, such as OP's experience with a femur fracture.

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– Assassin47 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

anyone who declares "I have a high pain tolerance" immediately has red flagged themselves as a nightmare patient with a personality disorder

Can you explain this connection? I'm curious how this manifests.

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

TBH I really can't flesh it out more. It's simply a dark humor healthcare meme.

It's through experience.

I would say it's mostly women that declare this to you in practice.

But someone who authoritatively declares "I have a high pain threshold" will inevitably down the road be one of those "I know my body types" who wouldn't listen to reason and inevitably will be demanding opioids and inappropriate treatments down the road.

Edit: r/medicine are all insufferable COVIDian traitors to the profession, but here's an old thread discussing the phenomenon

Edit2: Giving it a little more thought, I think it's patients self-identifying as "terminally unique". "I'm not like the other girls, doc". It's a disclosure that they have an inflated sense of self and hence expectations that they are better than the average bear.

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– Kweebecker 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Few people with actual high pain tolerance will word it like that, they'll word it like "just get it fucking done, I'll live.", because a side effect of developing a high pain tolerance is realizing just how much pain one can be in... And usually not wanting to test that limit further.

As for "it's mostly women", plenty of scientific studies on that; women have much lower pain tolerance levels than men for both sustained over time and intensity. If they didn't produce a shitton of very strong stuff naturally in their body in childbirth, the human species wouldn't've made it, but that's not their normal mental state: A male crackhead can also take quite a bit of pain at the peak of his high.

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– NatalieBiden 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Damn. How did you break a femur and how do I avoid that

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Look both ways when crossing the street. Especially in a rural town in Oregon where motorhomes go 50 MPH.

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– Devidose 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

how do I avoid that

In general quite easily, the femur is the hardest bone in your body since it has to literally carry most of your mass almost all the time. If you are in a situation where it can be broken either you fucked up a while ago or someone else is about to cause you a significant injury. Either way it's probably too late to avoid happening.

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– Deceitful_Fox 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I have personally found that one's perception of pain is closely tied to one's mental state. In my early 20s when I was in the depths of depression, I felt constant aches and pains all over my body, and every little niggle or physical inconvenience would manifest itself as physical pain, to the point where I thought there was something seriously physiologically wrong with me.

Now that I am married, exercise regularly, and am successful in my career, my overall daily experience of pain is greatly reduced. Things which I used to have to take pills for I can shrug off without issue. I presume this is because the body produces more natural pain killers when you are in a better mental state. That might go someway to explain how different people's pain threshold changes not just with their experience of pain, but their life circumstances.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That is a great insight. I've found that I work harder because I have a wife and kids. This is partially from trying to afford them.

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– bamboozler1 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I think it may also be because, when you’re depressed, you tend to both focus on the negatives, and have less going on in your life, so focus on “the small stuff” like pain, aches, etc., more…

But in general, yeah, I would 100% back this up, from my own anecdotal experience, even based on my weirdly mixed life experiences in the last six months or so (really bad situation, then good, to kind of bad again)…

When I was in the “good” place, in general I felt much better, and coped better with my chronic illness, than I did either before or after that period. Unfortunately…

Which I guess just means I have to work harder to get back to “the good place”, like it sounds like you have done, too.

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– Deceitful_Fox 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I mostly just lurk on this board, but I do see you post quite frequently. From what I have gathered of your life, the best advice I can offer is to pick a path and stick with it, regardless of the difficulties that crop up.

That's what I had to do to get out of the dark place I found myself in. I realised part of the reason I hadn't made any progress in life is because I felt overwhelmed by choice. I had a tiny bit of experience being an intern for an IT company, so I basically said 'Right, this is what I'm going to do come hell or high water, because it's definitely going to be better than wallowing in self-pity.' That gave me the motivation to pick myself up and go to university, and really take it seriously, not just to piss around as I would have done if I was 18.

Did I know if I would really enjoy working in IT? No, not really. It's scary making those kind of decisions because you cut yourself off from all the other possibilities of what you could do in life. At some point you have to take a leap of faith, though. In most cases you will find that success in one area tends to lead to success in other, unexpected areas of life.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks, yeah. I'm trying to pick myself up again, and get back to doing Uni as soon as I can (if my Uni will even let me back in, lol), but yeah...

I guess I could have stuck out what I was doing in Sweden, but the cognitive dissonance of "This is fucking bullshit and I feel bad just being here, never mind the fact that I am actively losing money here, and am not allowed to work to earn more", in what was effectively a cult, made me decide not to stick it out. Though they did shame me for "being a quitter" when I left, lol...

But yeah. Unfortunately I keep getting very sick, so even when I pick myself up mentally, my body tends to... Not play along, or at least makes it extremely difficult. Which is just... My reality now, sadly.

However I'm trying. And I'll probably return to Sweden at some point. Just in... Different circumstances, I hope, lol.

Good advice, anyway!

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– FrozeInFear 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

So, more opiates for black people? Maybe cause more morphine overdoses in hospitals? Prolong or renew an opioid crisis?
Then we can maintain the unequal outcomes narrative, and keep making counterproductive decisions to further impede or harm the innocent.

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– ModsAreAIDS 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

No need for opiates. They can just take extra OTC meds for it. I suggest they try a full bottle of tylenol. It will solve the problem right away (after a day or so anyway).

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– RoulerBleu 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

More like over the course of a week.

Tylenol OD is one of the more attrocious ways to die.

It's very rare for someone to straight-up die from Tylenol OD.

What happens is it poisons their liver, which dies and over the next few days they suffer from a slow, very painful death from liver failure.

Pretty sad considering it's often somone chugging fistfulls of tylenol because pain is driving them mad.

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– ajfofjakf 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Liver failure is horrific. No kidding alcoholics I knew would make toasts along the lines of "may kidney failure get us first before our livers go out"

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– ModsAreAIDS 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Pretty sad considering it's often somone chugging fistfulls of tylenol because pain is driving them mad.

Or an idiot kid trying to make an attempt for attention and accidentally killing themselves for real.

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– Benevolentdictator 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Maybe wash it down with a few 40s of Colt 45.

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– BandageBandolier 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

We need a proper pain calibration procedure.

I propose a 50N kick in the nuts as the baseline. And we should trial it on each of the authors who thought "But my booboo hurts mooooaaar!" was a valid scientific measurement.

Any authors lacking external genitals will just have to test a 100N cooch crusher instead.

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– Norenia 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Psst

Generic is cheaper, and isn't patronizing.

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– Vivs3rdSock 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

MY BRAND!

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– nuggetpatrol 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Oh yes, continue conditioning people that they're being ignored because of the color of their skin and absolutely no other reason. That's a really good thing to do.

Fucking morons.

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– bloodguard 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Advil: $.12/per pill.

Costco Ibuprofen (minus preachy virtue signalling) : $.013/per pill.

Golly. What a decision!

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– Benevolentdictator 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I am like a bizarro yank in that I drive for hours to cross the border to buy $0.99 OTC drugs in America.

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– Shitheel5000 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

What is the equality supposed to be here? Are they recommending higher dosages or cheaper prices for blacks?

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– fvckface 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This reminds me of the Sickle Cell "Believe It" commercial

"you can't see our pain, but please, believe it."

I had never given it any thought before, at all, but it immediately triggered Ron_Burgundy_i_dont_believe_you.gif in my head the first time I saw it.

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– Skywise 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Obligatory Stonetoss: “How does this sell more Advil?”

“Advil?”

Part of this is “the narrative” but this is also what they’re training marketers and advertisers as a valid technique and it’s not necessarily wrong. Rather than buy on product value/quality - you market products on a moral campaign. To wit - if you’re not buying this, the bad guys win. It’s an extension of the “bandwagon” advertising strategy but it’s flipped over. Instead of “Everybody’s buying this, you should be too” (FOMO) you’ve got the “you NEED to buy this or you’re one of THEM.” (We will force you out?)

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– Grumman 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Obligatory Stonetoss: “How does this sell more Advil?”

Bad example. They're telling blacks that the doctor's only telling them not to take more painkillers because he's a racist. Telling people that it's okay to buy more of your product sells more of your product.

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– Vivs3rdSock 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

demands opioids

Druggies say what?

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– FrozeInFear 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Just gonna drop this here too.
Lilly [Eli Lilly & Co] has been putting out virtue signaling ads recently. One linked here is about awful terrible no-good fat-shaming (unlisted on youtube, but embedded on Lilly's website): https://youtu.be/lZ3Dt74R4ak

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– KeeperOfTheGate 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

So I guess that tells us which giant pharma company doesn't have a weight-loss drug out?

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– FrozeInFear 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm sure they have one for helping maintain diabetics.

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– elleand202 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Here's an end cap display.

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– Kaarous 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

What they don't receive is a friendly ear for malingering.

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– fvckface 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

https://archive.is/pRL08

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm ok with this. Fentanyl overdoses for all of them.

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– N14205ST205 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Is Advil going to believe the pain of all those who got injured from the COVID mRNA poisons?

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– Eros789 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Believe my pain!

Ok, have some fentanyl.

Thank you.

Huh, why are you thanking me? I'm getting you hooked on opioids if you're not already. Extended usage leads to a condition called hyper analgesia. Basically, you forget what pain feels like so you lose all tolerance to it. This makes you think you're feeling pain all the time and need even more fentanyl to feel better. Plus if you try to go without it withdrawal kicks in and you'll have tremors, diarrhea, vomiting, sweating, heart palpitations, abdominal pain, and anxiety for an entire week. I am intentionally condemning you to hell on earth disguised as a blessing.

What the fuck dude, are you the devil?

No, I work for Pifzer. We own Advil and sell fentanyl made in China. 😈

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– SendTomBoys 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Broly, look! Niggas be Wylin!

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– Mpetey123 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They believe. We have companies working on the assumption of a thing with no data behind it. Wonder if belief will be enough if I sue them for believing Advil made me fat and ugly.

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