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Jon "Stewart": Poorly maintained subways stations are the "literal price of freedom" (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq 2 years ago by lgbtqwtfbbq +89 / -0
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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 87 points 2 years ago +87 / -0

Something poetic about the man who made his career off of mocking George "they hate us for our freedoms" W. Bush using the same trope 20+ years later.

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– deleted 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0
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– realerfunction 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

the real red pill is that he was always spewing wef talking points.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

There's definitely a lot less whoop-ing and hollering in the studio than you'd have heard back in 2004...

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

He already has done that before on his earlier shows.

That's one of the bigger red pills, he was always like this.

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– SR388-SAX 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

Even worse that W wasn't entirely wrong about it.

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– SparkMandrill83 32 points 2 years ago +32 / -0

Nah he was defintely wrong. They (Islamists) hate us because we're Zionist puppets. Nothing else.

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– SR388-SAX 31 points 2 years ago +31 / -0

They hate us because we aren't Islamists. The Zionist puppetry doesn't help.

Yes, I know there are a smattering of places where Muslims don't exterminate everyone else. Those are the exceptions, and they will also be exterminated as soon as they don't have the oil wealth to protect themselves because they're massively outnumbered by the hordes of savages.

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– Gizortnik 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

They are explicitly ordered to remain amicable outside the Islamic State and abide by the laws of the land they are in when they are in the minority.

The moment that flips, all hell breaks lose.

When you're gone, only Muslims will remain, and they will tell you that Islam has only ever expanded through peace... at least if you are a non-Muslim. But, it's not really up for a debate about what happened, since it's in all of their own sources

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– Gizortnik 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Tell me you've never spoken to an Islamist without ever telling me you've never spoken to an Islamist.

They hate you because you are Kufar.

Your daughters deserve to be raped, because the rape of your daughters is a corrective rape. They did you a favor, because you are a Kufar.

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– SparkMandrill83 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

An opinion poisoned by propaganda. Sad

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– Gizortnik 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

It's not propaganda when they are literally saying this.

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– realerfunction 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

engage in taqiyya elsewhere

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– covok48 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Oy Vey!

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– Kienan 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

He was right and wrong. They do hate us for our freedoms. But they hate us more for the bullshit our intelligence agencies and other slime do in our name. If our only crime was "freedom," they'd (generally) be happy to leave us alone. They've got much bigger issues to deal with, like fighting their fellow Muslims, who are much closer and a more present danger.

So, yes, they hate us for our freedom. And, considering the form some of those freedoms take, they're not even entirely wrong, but that's a separate topic. Point is, yes, we have massive cultural differences, but that is in no way the root cause of any conflict. The US has done nothing but stick their dick in the hornet nest for decades. That's why they hate us.

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– 8BitArchitect 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

He is a [...] Jew

In this case the extra words are superfluous.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

How topical that Helldivers releases a sequel right as the "muh freedumbs, muh Democracy™" rhetoric makes a comeback.

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– acp_k2win 83 points 2 years ago +83 / -0

I look forward to the day when we can all stop pretending that unusable public transit and unlivable cities in general is caused by anything other than a failure to hold blacks accountable for anti-social behavior

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 49 points 2 years ago +49 / -0

That's a huge part of it, but I think the larger issue is a plain inability to say "just because your life sucks doesn't mean you get to do drugs in the park/park your piece of shit RV on the street/camp in the street/harass people on the street.

Most of the bums who do that shit in Seattle aren't black, though of course the black ones are granted even greater license to behave poorly.

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– Maskurbator 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

Blacks being given carte blanche sort of opens the door for everyone else.

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– Ahaus667 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

One of the Jewish vaudeville actors who did blackface back in the early 20th century said the “carefree” lifestyle of the black man was what he aspired to. That same hedonistic mindset was of course found in Hollywood for decades, and infiltrated every major metropolitan area under the guise of “culture”. The simple reality is that when we hold one to a lower standard we hold all to that standard. It’s no different than the communist grade experiment where when one person slacks off and gets the same grade eventually everyone will.

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– PersecutedIncel 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's a huge part of it, but I think the larger issue is a plain inability to say "just because your life sucks doesn't mean you get to do drugs in the park/park your piece of shit RV on the street/camp in the street/harass people on the street.

So death to anyone who ends up homeless for any reason?

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– RoulerBleu 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

We used to have mental asyums for people too broken to care for themselves.

That should be for broken Whites. Non-Whites should be deported.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Where will they go? Who cares? Hopefully, they will disappear, that is, move from the ranks of the petted and cosseted bum class to the ranks of the productive members of society.

-- Murray Rothbard

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– Assassin47 36 points 2 years ago +36 / -0

pretending

The typical NPC really does think that being a racist is worse than shitting in the street.

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– fauxgnaws 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0

It's not even just not holding blacks accountable for anti-social behavior, the woke state has gone further in actually preventing anyone from holding blacks accountable.

Imagine how the NY subway environment would be different if the governor gave the subway chokehold guy the key to the city instead of a felony indictment.

Leibowitz is in opposite bizzaro world again, because in a free society you'd be able to defend yourself and others on the subway, but people in NY are not free to do so.

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– dnile1000bc 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

It's not just blacks. Also women, illegal migrants and any other "oppressed group" feminists keep saying the white man is keeping down.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

... You say that as if no one else engages in anti-social behavior. They ain't the only ones. There were literally Eritrean riots in Raleigh. No blacks, nor whites, anywhere in the vicinity.

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– acp_k2win 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

In the US the blacks are the problem. Every real statistic and everyone's personal anecdotal experience supports that fact.

What is your point?

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Right, it's definitely not immigrants. It's certainly not culture.

"It's nothin' but the darkies I tell ya!"

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– FromTheShadows 36 points 2 years ago +36 / -0

Gee, how convenient that the price of freedom is dangerous, crime-riddled public transportation that a wealthy celebrity like you, Mr. Leibowitz, never has to use. And the same time, you demand all the filthy plebs use said dangerous, crime-riddled public transportation instead of personal automobiles so that "we" can all cut down on our carbon emission.

Yeah, FUCK. YOU. YOU RICH. ENTITLED. PIECE. OF. SHIT.

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– Sneak_King 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

Oh well, guess I don't want """freedom""" anymore. ¯\(ツ)/¯

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– Assassin47 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Ding ding. Subversives like him actually despise liberty. They want the rest of us to hate the idea of "freedom" so that we accept more of their societal controls and the government's meddling in personal affairs.

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– Frux7 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Democracy is talking itself to death. The people do not know what they want; they do not know what is the best for them. There is too much foolishness, too much lost motion. I have stopped the talk and the nonsense. I am a man of action. Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy. You in America will see that someday.

~Benito Mussolini

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– realerfunction 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

i want a solution that isn't shit leftism.

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– SparkMandrill83 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Defintely not his definition of it

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

This might just be a lasting meme. Slap "the price of freedom" on anything. Riots? Poop in the streets? Woman pushed in front of a subway car? That's just the price of freedom, baby.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

"Terrorism is part and parcel to living in a big city"

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– Frux7 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Except for gun deaths. Then we have the “freedom to not be killed by a gun.”

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– Guy_Incognito76 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

"If it saves even one life."

No thanks.

"I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE!"

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– nuggetpatrol 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

The price of freedom is that we reign death elsewhere so it never gets here.

The cost of infrastructure, and the loss of it, is because we've been told for decades to get a degree in a useless treadmill college instead of going and taking things like structural engineering and other blue collar jobs.

There are places that will pay for your house, pay you to live there and pay for the schooling if you learn a trade that is desperately needed.

And they still can't find enough people to do it.

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– SoctaticMethod1 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Looks at Japan, South Korea, Switzerland even to some extent Germany: You sure about that?

Let's be honest, transportation in America is a shitshow because EVERYTHING there is designed around the car. It's a country where people will drive across an area that most places in the world would be several countries and it wouldn't be that much of a big deal. That means people are less caring about public transport so it's easier to scim some of the funds meant to upgrade transportation to private slush funds.

The only places worse for public transport than the US is places like the UK where literal beaurocracy and extremely poor planning stops ANY improvement being met on time and in some cases to quality. I think they've given up on that HS2 line they've been waffling over for over a decade...

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– tappydans 46 points 2 years ago +46 / -0

No amount of money will solve black people ruining public spaces. It’s not an issue of funding.

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– SoctaticMethod1 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

I'd say it's both a population with a destructive mentality AND constant embezzlement by corrupt politicians voted in by said destructive population because they give them free gibs.

It's a constant cycle of shit feeding each other till the urban centre dies.

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– ghostfox1_ 36 points 2 years ago +36 / -0

This is one of the constant copes.

Yes, america is designed around cars, because you fucking need them. You can drive for 12 hours and still be in texas. Public transportation is shit unless your entire population is crammed in major cities and countries about the size of states.

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– MargarineMongoose 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0

As an American I'm not keen on giving up my elbow room.

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– SoctaticMethod1 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Pretty much, it's MUCH too expensive and not worth it to build trains everywhere given the size of America. You're better off with trains focused on industrial use unless urban only and airports everywhere else.

And both of those are still secondary to cars and even trucks.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

California, despite bragging about being the 5th largest economy in the world, can't get a fucking high-speed rail built without going grossly overbudget.

Meanwhile, Taiwan, a Chinese rump state on an island with minimal resources, managed to get one built.

The one US state where public transportation might make sense is also a South America-tier corrupt shithole.

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– PersecutedIncel 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Going on California public transit as a white man is basically suicide.

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– BandageBandolier 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Honestly I'm not sure how viable high speed rail is that close to a fault line anyway. The tolerances on the track quality aren't that big so it could be that the whole line is constantly out of commission for inspection/repair after every minor quake.

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– RoulerBleu 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Thanks to Japanese excellence, the tech for earthquake-resistant buildings and infrastructure is within reach of a functional, developped society.

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– MLGS 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

It is reasonable to build high speed trains regionally. There's absolutely no reason there shouldn't be a bullet train between Los Angeles and San Diego or New York City and Boston, other than communists running the local governments and refusing to lock up the people who make public transportation unusable.

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– RoulerBleu 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

There's absolutely no reason

The behavior of the demographics of those cities are reason enough.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Supposedly studies indicate the train fare would be more expensive than local airfare.

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– Gizortnik 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Don't blame this on the car. Ultra-high-density cities are the enemy, and cars help prevent them. The dedication to building hive cities is the problem.

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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Oh I'm not saying it's a bad thing that America is car centric, I'm just outlining why, like all things in the real world that the leftist ignore in their fantasy delusions, it's contextual if public transport is an effective solution to the area and how best to utilise it.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– realerfunction 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

insurance is a scam.

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– EggShenBusTours 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Japan isn't free?

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– Justalurker69420 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

If, in exchange for being under the perpetual thumb of a "brutal dictator," I get an objectively better quality of life for myself and my family on the condition I don't speak out against "brutal dictator" then sign me up, because the way I see it right now is that I'm already in a brutal dictatorship ruled by people that want me dead, only here my groceries are almost prohibitively expensive and there's shit all over the street.

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– YouAreAPirate 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

"Fascist": A vote for me is a vote for better infrastructure.

communist: vote me or u bad

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

The freedom to get stabbed by a darkie for accidentally making eye contact?

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– NatalieBiden 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Japan has perfectly safe subways.

It’s not democracy that destroys subways.

There is a reason Israel doesn’t allow in any immigration.

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– realerfunction 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

PART AND PARCEL

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– Kienan 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

This is awful and disappointing. Jon Stewart is a known hack and propagandist, but his propaganda used to at least be on a better level. This is just lazy and weak. Shame on you, Jon. Double shame, in fact; one for the propaganda, two for doing it so poorly.

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– ParadigmShift2070 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

people keep saying he was funny, but maybe people were just easily impressed college students back then

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– Skywise 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

lol - that’s just as stupid a take as Tuckers. Public decency and clean and safe subways are not “the price of freedom” but the lack of common decency by our supposed populace plus unenforced and/or blocked laws prohibiting uncivilized behavior.

Its why you have people on the Vegas strip setting up booths or screeching like a banshee thinking they’re singing and huckstering pennys because “muh public sidewalk freedums!” According to the ACLU and Jon nimby Stewart here.

I’ve got photos of my grandparents dressing up in suits and a dress to go fly in an airport not 50 years ago and now you’ve got homeless and illegal immigrants camping out. Is that “the price of liberty” Jon? Or is that because Democrats have let government and society fester for “progressive” causes. Does this look “progressive” to you?

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

What was stupid about Tucker's take?

I think Tucker would say of your airplane anecdote, "why should air travel becoming cheaper and more accessible have necessarily resulted in a decline in service? Shouldn't we have been able to make it cheaper while maintaining (and expecting) the same level of service as was available in the past?"

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– redman012 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I think what the actual issue is that the average Russian annual income is like 4x less than the average US income, so the prices aren’t gonna be the same regardless

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– Skywise 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I wasn’t talking about Tuckers shopping trip - I got what he was saying there in reference to how the people have food and it’s plentiful so our sanctions and war aren’t doing squat.

I was talking about his Moscow subway video and his “why can’t we have nice things?” take.

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– Skywise 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You think people dressed nice merely because air travel was expensive or that only rich people dressed nice? Yeah, no. It’s a break down in civility and what’s expected of the people.

One reason they can have ornate subways in Russia is because anyone who dissents gets disappeared and that’s what Jon Stewart is saying here - you have to allow vandalism for freedom. But both those points are extreme takes. Ultimately the reason is that you have a proud people who care about their united history and any attack on public property is an attack on themselves and this goes back to my point about how people dress in public.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Why do you have to allow vandalism for "freedom"? Why can't you just harshly punish vandals while leaving normal people who don't vandalize alone?

And if that is "freedom", doesn't that also include the freedom to stop vandals? But when people exercise that freedom they get "disappeared" (see David Penny as the most recent example).

And of course if you vandalize the "wrong" thing (like that Church of Satan statue, or the people who do burnouts on the rainbow crosswalks) you get prosecuted too, so you don't really have the freedom to vandalize either. You just have the "freedom" to vandalize whatever the State doesn't mind you vandalizing, which isn't really "freedom" but pretty much the same as it is in any "dictatorial" regime.

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– Skywise 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Right - that’s why I said Stewart’s take is stupid.

But there’s a deeper point here. While it’s true that fear of punishment is one reason people obey laws, the reality is that people honor the laws as part of being in a civil society along with shared experiences and a sense of community.

That’s why, for the longest time, we could have large stores filled with goods out in the open and shoplifting was unheard of.

Nowadays the left has trashed the culture so much that stores are not only locking things up but abandoning whole cities, partially because of lack of law enforcement but because we have an entire culture of sloth and entitlement.

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– PooperSnooperPrime 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I was hoping there was a better, more thorough explanation from Stewart beyond the 'battle between capitalism & communism.' Such as, something along the lines of "police up your ass constantly when in public" or anything. But its left up to the listener to figure out.

Heres the whole segment. If you want, you can rewind it to some lame personal attacks on Carlson before the same point the twitter video starts at. It has something retarded looking after the point the twitter video ended that I didn't watch.

https://youtu.be/oM2h3KnWAWY?si=Y-KPowO0mO9ZTKMh&t=694

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– SendTomBoys 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

That's crazy cuz there are places in Europe, and especially Japan, that have extremely clean cities and subways.

Japan has an almost supernatural level of personal accountability. Between students cleaning the school daily, to subways and train stations dedicated to employing the elderly to give them work and respect and dignity, or public works dedicated to the beautification and cleanliness of Japans public spaces.. they have issues like any other nation but goddamn am I jealous by of their culture when it comes to things like that. The societal cohesion makes me green with envy.

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– ParadigmShift2070 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

the level of cleanliness of Tokyo is almost sterile, accepted a 200 page rental apartment ad book as you walked out of station because you kinda felt bad for the worker? well now you get to hold that book all the way to the hotel because there are no public trash cans anywhere, are you going to be the litter bug like some sort of barbaric gaijins?

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– RoulerBleu 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The freedom of blacks and browns to flood the country.

The freedom of violent criminals to roam the streets

The freedom of beggars to sit on the floor in the subway

The freedom of mentally-ill and drug addicts to roam the streets bothering people and shitting in public.

What's the meme again : Liberals are so open-minded their brain fell out.

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– catipillar 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

He said Russia was the enemy during WWII. No they weren’t, bruh, they were our allies.

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– realerfunction 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

the only enemies we had were in government.

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– alucard13mmfmj 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

freedom for who? lol. freedom for pedos and groomers? rofl

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– Gizortnik 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It would be true if we were talking about something like Singapore, where corporal punishment is basically the norm in even the smallest of cases.

That's not what's happening here. Crime is made a moral imperative by the government, and the people are conditioned to accept their own murders. We don't want to die like dogs. We don't want to die like the way you let your friends and family die. Stay away from us.

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– covok48 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Such a Jew

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– rentfREEEE_since2016 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The price of freedom is getting stabbed by a black homeless dude and dying face down in a pile of shit on a filthy subway train.

Yeah. . .

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– lgbtqwtfbbq [S] 34 points 2 years ago +34 / -0

I got front-row seats to how his style of "debate" poisoned my generation. And not just regarding politics: it even at times degraded my professional discussions.

<behavior> sucks

OK what would be a better behavior then?

Something that doesn't <mockery by needlessly crude analogy>

OK that doesn't give me any better an idea of what your (presently unstated) requirements are.

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– KekistanPM 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

My favorite is "Do better!"

Do what better, and how exactly? What are the parameters? What is the baseline and what is an attainable goal? What is the tangible measurement of improvement?

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– Frux7 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Let’s be real “do better” actually means “do what I want.” We just didn’t realize that is what he was saying.

Leibowitz‘s return will not be the saving move the uniparty thinks it will be. His slimeball tricks worked great when the right thought the left were good people with bad ideas. Now that the mask has slipped that dog won’t hunt.

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