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tobeornotto2 68 points ago +68 / -0

They hate him because he mocked them and exposed their hypocrisy and made them look ridiculous.

Someone who's on the right side of history, and is defending minorities, can not be ridiculed because invalidating a hero is dangerous. Or something.

Initially they saw a professor reject their ideology, so they had to take him down to set an example, and in their hubris they assumed he must be an easy prey.

Notice how they never debate anyone who disagrees. But for a couple of months, presumably because the interviews were all scheduled early on, JP went around from one interviewer to the next and humiliated them all.

Somehow they were all, except a few at the end, unprepared. Again, hubris. I've never seen someone get so much publicity as JP for those few weeks. He was everywhere. Every moron journalist had set up an meeting presumably to expose him. And he made a fool out of all of them.

They hate that. They will never forget, and never forgive.

Then as soon as they saw he can't be gotcha'd, he never got another interview and was purged, but by now the damage was done and they had made him a celebrity.

Another reason they hate him, because they made him, and it eats at them.

JP made them look like the idiots they are. They hate him more than they hate Hitler.

The absolute insanity that JP is the no. 2 enemy of the left, the man is basically a liberal.

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freespeechsquid 12 points ago +12 / -0

Their unhinged fury at someone exercising independent thought and dissenting from the transgender dogma is real, especially when it's someone articulate and credible - but that's not why they hate him.

They hate him because he tells young men that they have value.

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tobeornotto2 6 points ago +6 / -0

Great point.

Take the ugly, fat, entitled, annoying feminist wife and provide for her and work as hard as your grandfather did; even though you get none of the benefits he got.

Otherwise their utopia of being degenerates and only doing the easy jobs and to be provided for will break apart at the seams.

JP is telling young men to focus on achieving emotional maturity, financial independence, and to partner up only once they have something to offer, at which point they will find women willing to compromise, and this message is scaring the fuck out of the establishment - they are desperately trying to brainwash boys into accepting their role as simp workhorses.

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Benevolentdictator 10 points ago +10 / -0

I particularly remember the perhaps lesser known interview with Wendy Mesley on CBC television (who would later be eaten by the woke mob herself for reciting "nigger" aloud from a book title during a closed doors staff meeting.

All her bad faith questions amounted to "When did you become a card-carrying Nazi member, Professor?"

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Tekgod 10 points ago +10 / -0

Well done, my good sir.

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Mpetey123 48 points ago +48 / -0

Man the left has just attacked Jordan Peterson for years now. The vileness they spew at him is unbelievable for such an unassuming guy.

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MLGS 35 points ago +35 / -0

Once you've been tagged as an enemy by transgender communists, they will never stop fixating on you until you are dead.

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IamM 27 points ago +27 / -0

Which is kinda ironic considering if people said half the shit to them that they say to everyone else, they'd kill themselves en-masse.

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AntonioOfVenice 7 points ago +8 / -1

Or the more likely outcome, when they are dead by their own hand.

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YesMovement 17 points ago +17 / -0

Beanie Man did a short today saying JBP is a great litmus test to tell if someone is an NPC: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LPVCKyVcW4M

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 12 points ago +12 / -0

There are numerous NPC litmus tests. Jordan Peterson. Trump. Russia. DeSantis. Pretty much anything the media has tried to make into Current Thing, and especially anything they've constructed a hate cult against.

If you bring up a Current Thing or Past Thing and the result is an immediate barrage of infantile name calling, that's an NPC. No thoughts are going on behind those dead eyes.

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Benevolentdictator 4 points ago +4 / -0

Has Peterson been on Timcast?

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Vebent 5 points ago +5 / -0

I don’t think Peterson would be a good fit for Timcast. Tim Poole has a habit of talking over people, interrupting, and sometimes making the show about him. Very rarely does Time Poole let anyone speak constantly. Peterson can go on for 10-15 minutes at a time describing anything psychological because he’s a professor. It’s what he’s use to. So those two wouldn’t mix very well.

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ThatsAlright 6 points ago +7 / -1

That's the point. Great video on Peterson tbh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csg_V8mJxrE

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Benevolentdictator 4 points ago +4 / -0

I remember watching Peterson on PBS-style public television before anyone gave a shit about him giving similarly tearful interviews about his own experiences with depression and some of his clinical work with the same.

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SoctaticMethod1 44 points ago +44 / -0

JP getting misty eyed thinking about the fact a lot of these 'incels' are men that didn't have that one good male role model in life (by design if you look at the state of entertainment, education and social media).

I can understand, when all that would be needed to stop a man going down a dark path is having as boy a man that can play catch, listen to your problems and give out useful advice, it does make you want to cry in how pathetic it all is, that's all that is required.

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TheImpossible1 39 points ago +43 / -4

Let me guess, it's all women crying about the fact that men they don't like are still considered human beings.

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TheAnon 22 points ago +22 / -0

That and self-hating "men" trying to attract them.

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AntonioOfVenice -27 points ago +1 / -28

People who think that they are entitled to the bodies of others, and who say that women 'deserve to be raped' are not human beings.

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TheAnon 41 points ago +41 / -0

So women and nonwhites, the dominant recipients of government handout programs? They seem to find themselves quite entitled to the labor - and thus bodies - of white men.

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TheImpossible1 30 points ago +34 / -4

That's not a thing, that's what glowies and women say is a thing.

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MattTheBlack 1 point ago +1 / -0

That was definitely a thing on r/trucels. The other sub was more just misery posting

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AntonioOfVenice -12 points ago +1 / -13

Which of the two am I?

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SarcasticRidley 39 points ago +39 / -0

A humongous faggot.

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AntonioOfVenice -9 points ago +2 / -11

Thanks.

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Adamrises 19 points ago +19 / -0

Damn homie, you really can't let that shit go.

But I guess its fine to say "everyone is as bad as the worst person in the group" when its the group you don't like.

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MattTheBlack 1 point ago +1 / -0

There was a sub of tens of thousands that regularly posted shit like that. The other sub was still larger and usually didn't have those posts but it's wild to see it denied that there are in fact lots of psychotic incels as well

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Adamrises 3 points ago +3 / -0

There is a large gulf between "they don't exist, I deny that every happened" and "I don't think every single person in this group is exactly like that and are irredeemably evil."

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MattTheBlack 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well yes but it wasn't an issue of judging based on one single worst person. I have plenty of sympathy for incels that aren't sacks of shit. I struggle with relationships myself. I get plenty of attention from women but I don't feel like I'll ever find a woman worth marrying that would also want to marry me so I feel especially bad for dudes on the lower end of the totem pole

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Adamrises 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have plenty of sympathy for incels that aren't sacks of shit

Same, that's where my disagreement with Antonio is. He cannot hear the word incel without assuming they are all sacks of shit by simply being an incel. Most aren't sacks of shit, and even if they are aren't super hard to get to stop being such with a little help.

Most of their subs are just echo chambers where the angriest voices dominate because only those can stomach being there, or aren't banned, which makes it even more laughable to judge them based on such. You know, like every other sub really.

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Hugs 15 points ago +15 / -0

Sometimes I don't understand you.

Regardless of its original meaning and intent, "incel" is a word that has been captured and weaponized by leftists/feminists to dehumanize men. Both women and men recognize social value in sex and in those able to obtain it. Men who are not able to obtain it are considered inferior status and worthy of ridicule and contempt.

Next, paper-thin assumptions are made. Believe that women enjoy privileges that men don't? That makes you an incel. Practice and preach self-responsibility as a male and take care in who you date? You're an incel. Want a traditional "wife and kids" future? Incel.

Anything "incel"-adjacent becomes infected by proxy. Guilt by association. Holding conservative values makes you an incel. Free speech, well, that merely exists as a gateway through which a deluge of hateful incel propaganda can pour forth.

The point I'm making is this: Antonio, to any leftist who sees this website and the issues we take with woke culture, we are just incels. To them, you, Antonio, are an incel.

Do you think you're entitled to the bodies of others? Do you think women deserve to be raped? No, so your comment is really very stupid. You're borrowing the sloppy generalizations of an ideological faction that hates you and snarkily applying them to yourself and your peers.

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MargarineMongoose 5 points ago +5 / -0

Tony is a leftist, he's just in denial about it because he got kicked out of the clubhouse.

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FutaCumDiet 13 points ago +13 / -0

I agree. Troons aren't humans.

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Hellsbells00 8 points ago +10 / -2

Dehumanizing the retarded sets yourself up for future troubles. They are human. They are the end result of weak willed people raised in a feminized society and overdosed on chemicals and porn.

You must understand the problem to prevent it.

Humans are capable of immense stupidity and evil.

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FutaCumDiet 8 points ago +8 / -0

If someone advocates for mutilating a child for purely sexual reasons, they are a demon. I have tried "live and let live" and it clearly hasn't fucking worked.

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Hellsbells00 8 points ago +8 / -0

I didn't say "don't destroy them". I said that evil is a human trait.

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FutaCumDiet 1 point ago +1 / -0

The, the capacity to do evil is a human trait, chuckles.

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hungryfreaksdaddy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Solzhenitsyn puts it quite well:

It was granted me to carry away from my prison years on my bent back, which nearly broke beneath its load, this essential experience: how a human being becomes evil and how good. In the intoxication of youthful successes I had felt myself to be infallible, and I was therefore cruel. In the surfeit of power I was a murderer, and an oppressor. In my most evil moments I was convinced that I was doing good, and I was well supplied with systematic arguments. And it was only when I lay there on rotting prison straw that I sensed within myself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either—but right through every human heart—and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains … an unuprooted small corner of evil.

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Hellsbells00 2 points ago +2 / -0

That quote explains the notion perfectly. Thank you for sharing that.

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cartoonericroberts 34 points ago +34 / -0

By definition incels are marginalized.

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realerfunction 9 points ago +9 / -0

more than any tranny or faggot, that's for damn sure.

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AntonioOfVenice 3 points ago +3 / -0

They force the label on the people they want to exploit politically. "People of color" are "marginalized". Just a cavalier statement about billions of people based on nothing but their raw will to power.

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RandomFurryDude 15 points ago +15 / -0

People of color are marginalized

Statistically the majority of the planet

Leftists truly believe that up is down, left is right, and men and women are the same.

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nuggetpatrol 26 points ago +26 / -0

All this because he had the audacity to stand up to forced government speech.

So they had to destroy him because somehow being against controlled speech also means being against trans because reasons in the minds of the easily confused and influenced left.

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Sneak_King 15 points ago +15 / -0

The reason is self-evident, actually. The speech they're going to force on you is first, "He's a woman" and then, "I confess" before the commissar pulls the trigger.

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Benevolentdictator 3 points ago +3 / -0

JBP's quip in the Piers Morgan interview about "I was teaching some pretty revolutionary things at Harvard & U of T. I'm surprised they let me do it for so long." is an interesting quote that I haven't heard him say before.

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RandomFurryDude 18 points ago +18 / -0

Leftists: "We need to stop bullying marginalized communities and become enlightened progressive beings, sexual freedom including asexual people are one of our keystone beliefs"

Also leftists: "A man who hasn't stuck his dick in some pussy? EWWWW CREEPY, GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!"

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dekachin [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

Liberals, even though they like to tell themselves they are nice and good, while conservatives are mean and bad, tend to be huge assholes who vomit hate towards their designated hate objects.

Liberals need to have demonized enemies to rally around hating. Liberalism is a full spectrum religious belief system. No matter what emotions you feel, liberals have a way to weaponize them for the cause.

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hungryfreaksdaddy 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's because they don't have moral principles. Their sole aim is power and they will take any and every position that they can to obtain that power.

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dekachin [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

The clip: https://youtu.be/M1612L2FMHo?t=29

The libtards on reddit are some reeeeeeal petty assholes.

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BetterNameUnfound 10 points ago +10 / -0

I first learned of JP from someone who hated him, yet also claimed to be on our side: Vox Day, real name Theodore Beale.

The fact that Peterson has caught on and no one listens to Vox Day should tell you all you need to know.

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dekachin [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

Honestly I think Peterson is a fucking weirdo [Russia coma, weird all meat diet, obvious lie claiming no sleep for an extremely long period, weird daughter, etc], but he does a decent job of talking shit about marxists and I like the fact that the libs lose their minds over him.

Also while Peterson shit talks leftists intellectuals, he himself is very much an "intelleckshual" and I dislike him for that reason as well. I don't like people who constantly name drop philosophers. I prefer to think for myself.

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Benevolentdictator 5 points ago +5 / -0

Honestly I think Peterson is a fucking weirdo [Russia coma, weird all meat diet, obvious lie claiming no sleep for an extremely long period, weird daughter, etc], but he does a decent job of talking shit about marxists and I like the fact that the libs lose their minds over him.

Thank you for listing Peterson's weird flaws.

I've ate a lot of downvotes on here casually mentioning the same things.

My perspective is close to yours that I do still have a lot of respect for JBP, but he does have some blindspots and some skeletons in his closet for such a lauded self-help guru.

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Slashs_cool_hat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Shrinks tend to be kinda crazy

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GoofTroop186 5 points ago +6 / -1

He’s also gone out of his way to stir up drama to stay in the spotlight imo. Hard to feel bad for him, but at the same time the Reddit/Twitter double standard is real

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dzonatan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Here's the thing though. Your thinking for yourself is unintentionally rediscovering some old forgotten truths. Chances are your ideas aren't original and your way of doing things is probably something that was done in Ancient or Medieval until it became passé.

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CatoTheElder 5 points ago +7 / -2

The fact that Peterson has caught on and no one listens to Vox Day should tell you all you need to know.

It does, it means that JP is what the mainstream want people to listen to. He is within the leftist controlled Overton window Vox Day is outside that window and thus is silenced.

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realerfunction -1 points ago +1 / -2

this post glows

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Shill4Hire 6 points ago +6 / -0

Later on, those same people will say things like "OMG, men don't express emotions!"

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 5 points ago +5 / -0

Oh yes, people who are delusional about the world owing them sex are beyond redemption, and anyone who tries to help them out of their delusion is evil or a fool.

I swear these people don't want people with mental issues to get better. They just want the ill to wallow in sorrow and loathing. If the illness is like theirs (trannies), they love them for it. If the illness is not like theirs (incel), then they pat themselves on the back as they carry out their crusade.

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dzonatan 7 points ago +7 / -0

I swear these people don't want people with mental issues to get better.

Ofcourse they dont.

Doctors don't want a healthy society. Otherwise their buisness suffer.

Policemen don't want crimeless communities. Otherwise their buisness suffer.

Weapon Manufacturers don't want world peace. Otherwise their buisness suffer.

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 3 points ago +3 / -0

That bit about police is not always true. I've met a few who would be glad to never deal with a murder again. If anything, they want a world where the only crime is speeding tickets and parking violations.

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freespeechsquid 4 points ago +4 / -0

people who are delusional about the world owing them sex are beyond redemption

Do they believe they are literally owed sex, or are they frustrated with a broken social contract that promotes sex as an indispensable status symbol, promises it based on certain transactional criteria and then tells them they're not worthy of having it and it's their fault for being pathetic losers?

I actually don't know much about incel culture but I always thought it was the latter, not the former. Obviously in a group built from grievance there's going to be a spectrum of people ranging from the hurt and frustrated, to the delusional and entitled, to the rapey. But seeing the hypocritical antipathy they're treated with by the self-appointed champions of love and tolerance, I'm inclined to view their cause with sympathy.

I swear these people don't want people with mental issues to get better.

Exactly.

They don't want themselves/their own to get better because their ideas thrive on mental illness, and getting better would mean taking responsibility.

They don't want white/straight/men to get better because they despise us and want to see us suffer.

They don't want everyone else to get better because healthy people are harder to control and can't be exploited for profit or political gain.

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points ago +2 / -0

At least when they refer to incels, they refer to people who believe they are owed sex. Self-described incels are more like what you describe, but that sort of nuance doesn't fit in a tweet.

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LastRights 5 points ago +5 / -0

Jordan Peterson keeps getting emotional in most if not all interviews and public speaking engagements. He needs to take an extended period away from the limelight and recompose himself.

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TheHitman 3 points ago +3 / -0

Incel is just a word made up by a cunty bossy bitch, who has massive relationship issues, who hates men. They all have loose pussy energy.

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AntonioOfVenice -13 points ago +1 / -14

I feel the same way about incels that I do about troons. They are corrupted by a rotten culture. But it's probably too late for them.

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Guy_Incognito76 18 points ago +18 / -0

Troons are mostly self-inflicted though, whereas incels at least on some level simply suffer from being unattractive. Historically only 40% of men reproduce, even including deaths by war and disease that means a pretty decent chunk of the populace will never have offspring. Hard to completely blame them for being bitter about it.

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JustHereForTheSalmon 13 points ago +13 / -0

It's just a large swath of men who don't know how to be men. Fathers exploiting female weakness and Feminism have failed them, mothers selecting bad fathers have failed them, and society have failed them.

They need direction to become real men. And women need to stop being lied to about the kind of men they need. And instead of any of these honest conversations happening, Feminism just piles on, just like Peterson says in the clip.

I'd cry too about the future of society if I sat idle and basked in this black pill for too long.

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RandomFurryDude 10 points ago +10 / -0

The issue with today's society isn't that men don't know how to be men, its that men aren't allowed to be men.

Do anything which was considered normal in the 50's and you lose your job, family, friends, and possibly your life.

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dekachin [S] 13 points ago +15 / -2

An incel has much higher chances of reforming and becoming a productive member of society. They aren't mentally ill like trannies. They're just guys who have some misguided notions. A decent number of them are probably autistic and just bad at talking to women.

Maybe you're thinking of Imp, but he is waaaaaay on the extreme end. He's like a giga incel.

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trump4045 6 points ago +7 / -1

Imp is likely a shill assigned to troll this site and not a real poster.

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TheImpossible1 3 points ago +6 / -3

ConPro projecting as usual.

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AntonioOfVenice -6 points ago +3 / -9

He is not really an incel, but more of a 'MGTOW'. And for all his hatred, he never says that he's entitled to have sex with women or that they deserve to be raped.

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dekachin [S] 20 points ago +20 / -0

incels don't say those things. don't believe reddit.

all an incel is, is a guy who can't get women. it isn't necessary to hate women, though many of them have bitterness that some express as hatred.

a large proportion of incels in the US are asian men who are super mad at non-asian men like me who have attractive asian girlfriends.

I had a couple incidents at asian restaurants oriented towards the younger crowd, so the staff was all college students, where incel guys acted weird towards me because I was there with an asian female. like they would lie to me about the kitchen closing, about being out of the things I tried to order, really passive aggressive shit. I went over their heads and asked the women who handled takeout if it was true, they said no, and I put my order straight in with them. Happened twice at one place in particular. The girls I was with were like "that was weird". I knew exactly what was going on because the dudes were clearly seething when I was trying to tell them our order lol.

reddit has/had a sub called HAPAS which was just 24/7 incel dudes screeching about white men stealing their women, lol.

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Adamrises 19 points ago +19 / -0

Antonio is of the belief of incel being an ideology, not a state of being.

Its a very useful little word trick, one he probably got from his days as a Left leaning guy because its the same one the Left still uses, that allows you to take anyone who identifies with the "can't get women" part and assume they must be the "frothing misogynist" part.

Also the AsianMasculinity sub has been more "incel" than even the incel sub was, and was around for years before them. But nobody can talk about it because the race angle is too sticky, so it never got the "mainstream media boogeyman treatment."

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onetruephilosoraptor 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think the passive aggression stuff you experienced was just weird.

Asian women in the west who exclusively date White men are viewed very negatively by Asian men.

I am an Asian American male and I have those same views.

My female cousin fits this same profile and the majority of my family generally dislikes her.

I think people can date whoever they want but that doesn't mean I don't find certain racial fetishes as creepy. It is not an incel thing, it is a racial thing.

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dekachin [S] 4 points ago +6 / -2

I think people can date whoever they want but that doesn't mean I don't find certain racial fetishes as creepy. It is not an incel thing, it is a racial thing.

I look down on white women or asian women who date black guys [assuming its a ghetto black dude not an "Obama" black dude], but I don't look down on white women who date asian guys. I don't see an azn guy with a white girl and think "omg he's stealing one of MY women".

I don't care about racial purity, I care about class and values, though. There are plenty of trashy white people out there. I'd rather asians and whites mix and share good values of education, family, relatively traditional social norms, and an emphasis on career success.

Any asian who cares about racial purity should have stayed in their home country and not come to America where they are a small minority and their kids are obviously going to mix.

Koreans here in Southern California sometimes try very hard to block their daughters from dating non-Koreans, but that nonsense is only delaying the inevitable. Even if it works sometimes on their daughters, their grand-daughters are a lost cause.

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onetruephilosoraptor 7 points ago +7 / -0

Asian men are seen as having the lowest sexual marketplace value in the west.

The predominantly Jew controlled western entertainment and music industry constantly labels Asian men as awkward nerds with small dicks while colleges and major corporations openly discriminate against them because they are not the right color of minority.

Asian women who exclusively date White men are merely another result of the western blitz against Asian men.

There is a lot of justifiable resentment here from Asian men concerning this issue.

I personally think Asian and Whites have a lot of the same values and should cooperate together in politics.

I think the right's future coalition will be White men, based Hispanic men and based Asian men versus the left's coalition of Women, majority of Blacks and majority of Jews.

If people are free to date whoever then people should be free to dislike whoever.

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dekachin [S] 0 points ago +5 / -5

Asian men are seen as having the lowest sexual marketplace value in the west.

  • asian features are seen as more feminine for both male and female. this helps the women and hurts the men. this is also why asian trannies can be a lot more convincing.

  • asian men are shorter on average, which is a BIG problem in the modern height-dominated dating shitshow.

  • asian men don't put as much effort into competing with other men physically in the dating marketplace, instead preferring to focus on school/career.

There are real reason they underperform, and it's entirely their own fault, not because of some grand cultural conspiracy against them. If you're an asian guy and you make yourself look like a ripped korean boyband faggot, women will be tripping over themselves trying to get on your dick.

The predominantly Jew controlled western entertainment and music industry

groan. "DA JOOOOS" bruh Eli Finklestein isn't trying to make WMAF happen.

constantly labels Asian men as awkward nerds with small dicks

Women don't judge men based on that, they judge men based on what they see with their own eyes. And women go nuts for BTS and korean pop shit. Also asian men get plenty of representation as masculine figures in US media. Daniel Dae Kim, Simu Liu from that disney shit, John Cho who was just in that netflix Cowboy Bebop reboot.

colleges and major corporations openly discriminate against them because they are not the right color of minority.

DEMOCRATS discriminate against asians AND WHITES thanks to "affirmative action". Want it to stop? Vote Republican and lobby to end affirmative action.

Asian women who exclusively date White men are merely another result of the western blitz against Asian men.

False. 100% of the women who I have met who were like that, told me the reason was negative experiences with asian men. And those negative experiences were not "oh asian men are too girly", they were more like "asian men aren't romantic, are too chauvinistic, expect unequal relationships" etc.

There is a lot of justifiable resentment here from Asian men concerning this issue.

No you're coping.

I personally think Asian and Whites have a lot of the same values and should cooperate together in politics.

They should but asians are fucking selfish and vote 70% Democrat because they don't want to rock the boat and just want to blend in. Since they tend to live in Blue cities, blend in means voting Democrat. They are too obsessed with career advancement and money and so they don't have any political principles even as the Democrats assfuck their kids with affirmative action and mutilate their family values. There needs to be an awakening among Asian Americans where they start to stand up for their values and stop just going along to get along in blue cities.

I think the right's future coalition will be White men, based Hispanic men and based Asian men versus the left's coalition of Women, majority of Blacks and majority of Jews.

Jews are split now, with orthodox jews like Ben Shapiro becoming increasingly right wing. Blacks will always be brainwashed libtards, at least until some massive culture shift happens. Basic white women will continue to be pawns of the Left because they're easily manipulated. LGBTs are the activist base of the Left.

But yes, Whites (mostly men) & Asians & traditionalist/non-woke Hispanics should be the coalition of the Right.

If people are free to date whoever then people should be free to dislike whoever.

Yes but tribalism is bad, and a tool of the Left. We should unite based on shared values, not based on superficial appearance.

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yamez 1 point ago +2 / -1

Holy shit! Antonio said something fair and balanced about the IMP!