Antonio is of the belief of incel being an ideology, not a state of being.

Its a very useful little word trick, one he probably got from his days as a Left leaning guy because its the same one the Left still uses, that allows you to take anyone who identifies with the "can't get women" part and assume they must be the "frothing misogynist" part.

Also the AsianMasculinity sub has been more "incel" than even the incel sub was, and was around for years before them. But nobody can talk about it because the race angle is too sticky, so it never got the "mainstream media boogeyman treatment."