Troons are mostly self-inflicted though, whereas incels at least on some level simply suffer from being unattractive. Historically only 40% of men reproduce, even including deaths by war and disease that means a pretty decent chunk of the populace will never have offspring. Hard to completely blame them for being bitter about it.
It's just a large swath of men who don't know how to be men. Fathers exploiting female weakness and Feminism have failed them, mothers selecting bad fathers have failed them, and society have failed them.
They need direction to become real men. And women need to stop being lied to about the kind of men they need. And instead of any of these honest conversations happening, Feminism just piles on, just like Peterson says in the clip.
I'd cry too about the future of society if I sat idle and basked in this black pill for too long.
An incel has much higher chances of reforming and becoming a productive member of society. They aren't mentally ill like trannies. They're just guys who have some misguided notions. A decent number of them are probably autistic and just bad at talking to women.
Maybe you're thinking of Imp, but he is waaaaaay on the extreme end. He's like a giga incel.
He is not really an incel, but more of a 'MGTOW'. And for all his hatred, he never says that he's entitled to have sex with women or that they deserve to be raped.
incels don't say those things. don't believe reddit.
all an incel is, is a guy who can't get women. it isn't necessary to hate women, though many of them have bitterness that some express as hatred.
a large proportion of incels in the US are asian men who are super mad at non-asian men like me who have attractive asian girlfriends.
I had a couple incidents at asian restaurants oriented towards the younger crowd, so the staff was all college students, where incel guys acted weird towards me because I was there with an asian female. like they would lie to me about the kitchen closing, about being out of the things I tried to order, really passive aggressive shit. I went over their heads and asked the women who handled takeout if it was true, they said no, and I put my order straight in with them. Happened twice at one place in particular. The girls I was with were like "that was weird". I knew exactly what was going on because the dudes were clearly seething when I was trying to tell them our order lol.
reddit has/had a sub called HAPAS which was just 24/7 incel dudes screeching about white men stealing their women, lol.
Antonio is of the belief of incel being an ideology, not a state of being.
Its a very useful little word trick, one he probably got from his days as a Left leaning guy because its the same one the Left still uses, that allows you to take anyone who identifies with the "can't get women" part and assume they must be the "frothing misogynist" part.
Also the AsianMasculinity sub has been more "incel" than even the incel sub was, and was around for years before them. But nobody can talk about it because the race angle is too sticky, so it never got the "mainstream media boogeyman treatment."
I think the passive aggression stuff you experienced was just weird.
Asian women in the west who exclusively date White men are viewed very negatively by Asian men.
I am an Asian American male and I have those same views.
My female cousin fits this same profile and the majority of my family generally dislikes her.
I think people can date whoever they want but that doesn't mean I don't find certain racial fetishes as creepy.
It is not an incel thing, it is a racial thing.
I feel the same way about incels that I do about troons. They are corrupted by a rotten culture. But it's probably too late for them.
Troons are mostly self-inflicted though, whereas incels at least on some level simply suffer from being unattractive. Historically only 40% of men reproduce, even including deaths by war and disease that means a pretty decent chunk of the populace will never have offspring. Hard to completely blame them for being bitter about it.
It's just a large swath of men who don't know how to be men. Fathers exploiting female weakness and Feminism have failed them, mothers selecting bad fathers have failed them, and society have failed them.
They need direction to become real men. And women need to stop being lied to about the kind of men they need. And instead of any of these honest conversations happening, Feminism just piles on, just like Peterson says in the clip.
I'd cry too about the future of society if I sat idle and basked in this black pill for too long.
The issue with today's society isn't that men don't know how to be men, its that men aren't allowed to be men.
Do anything which was considered normal in the 50's and you lose your job, family, friends, and possibly your life.
An incel has much higher chances of reforming and becoming a productive member of society. They aren't mentally ill like trannies. They're just guys who have some misguided notions. A decent number of them are probably autistic and just bad at talking to women.
Maybe you're thinking of Imp, but he is waaaaaay on the extreme end. He's like a giga incel.
He is not really an incel, but more of a 'MGTOW'. And for all his hatred, he never says that he's entitled to have sex with women or that they deserve to be raped.
incels don't say those things. don't believe reddit.
all an incel is, is a guy who can't get women. it isn't necessary to hate women, though many of them have bitterness that some express as hatred.
a large proportion of incels in the US are asian men who are super mad at non-asian men like me who have attractive asian girlfriends.
I had a couple incidents at asian restaurants oriented towards the younger crowd, so the staff was all college students, where incel guys acted weird towards me because I was there with an asian female. like they would lie to me about the kitchen closing, about being out of the things I tried to order, really passive aggressive shit. I went over their heads and asked the women who handled takeout if it was true, they said no, and I put my order straight in with them. Happened twice at one place in particular. The girls I was with were like "that was weird". I knew exactly what was going on because the dudes were clearly seething when I was trying to tell them our order lol.
reddit has/had a sub called HAPAS which was just 24/7 incel dudes screeching about white men stealing their women, lol.
Antonio is of the belief of incel being an ideology, not a state of being.
Its a very useful little word trick, one he probably got from his days as a Left leaning guy because its the same one the Left still uses, that allows you to take anyone who identifies with the "can't get women" part and assume they must be the "frothing misogynist" part.
Also the AsianMasculinity sub has been more "incel" than even the incel sub was, and was around for years before them. But nobody can talk about it because the race angle is too sticky, so it never got the "mainstream media boogeyman treatment."
I think the passive aggression stuff you experienced was just weird.
Asian women in the west who exclusively date White men are viewed very negatively by Asian men.
I am an Asian American male and I have those same views.
My female cousin fits this same profile and the majority of my family generally dislikes her.
I think people can date whoever they want but that doesn't mean I don't find certain racial fetishes as creepy. It is not an incel thing, it is a racial thing.
Holy shit! Antonio said something fair and balanced about the IMP!