I don't think people realize though that "edgy" humor is good humor. Ask anyone over the age of 50 what they consider the most important comedy they've seen, majority will say carlin's "7 words you can't say on tv or radio". Ask most europeans what they'd consider the most important comedy they saw, and it'd be frankie boyle's jokes about the queen that got him banned from most of their stations for a while.
"Comedy is like a painting and society is Dorian Gray: while the body may look okay it isn't always a reflection of what is truly going on"
If I remember right colbert was letterman's 4th or 5th choice to replace him, and to this day he wasn't satisfied that they chose him. He did an interview back in 2016-17, and apparently his top choice was norm mcdonald but after the SNL shenanigans the network execs thought doing so would make the "late night" thing unwatchable.
I believe it was Craig Ferguson who said "comedy is the reflection in the mirror of today's society. In the 90s comedy was fun and bubbly, a whimsical teddy bear. Now it's a grotesque and dark monster that we all know is there but noone really wants to take a gander at."
I mean it's what happened for gearbox. They did the whole "release only on epic games" bullshit, their entire steam playerbase took offense to it and started boycotting/mass-downvoting their other games, and since then you're lucky to not find 3 massively on sale.
The root of all of this being single parent rates. 80% of black children are raised by one parent. Children raised solely by one parent are 30x more likely to commit a violent crime compared to those raised by both. Pretty easy connecting of the dots.
Spoken like someone representing the stereotypes of that movement. For my counter-argument, I'd like to quickly bring up the idea of everything in some way devolving into capitalism. The best ideas will always draw the most success regardless of interference by other parties, and the best traits will always be the most sought after among people regardless of what stuff like twitter/facebook push.
With my experiences with the few people I've met that frequent mgtow, they seem to propose a lot of problems with zero solutions to said ones, kinda like leftists/the main patriots site except replace black/white/trans people with women. Economy tanking? Must be a woman's fault. Life doesn't feel rewarding despite doing everything perfectly? Must be a woman's fault. It's extremely lazy thinking and doesn't really accomplish anything, instead just pushing forth excuse after excuse when they should be looking into themselves for those solutions. Maybe you could afford to buy a car if you weren't spending $5k a year on video games and plastic action figures. Maybe you could afford rent/food if you weren't staying out until 3am every friday spending $600 on drinks.
I'd also say the ties between them and feminism are more similar than people want to admit. I remember a while back, think it was 2014/15, when a bunch of local feminists at my university decided to go on a sex strike. They'd walk up to you as you went to class and would harass constantly about not putting out until YOU changed or how they didn't have the same rights. It lasted a total of 3 weeks before many of them realized that their message was falling on deaf ears and men didn't want to be that "perfect guy" for them while they themselves were far from it. I can see this mgtow movement being an eerie parallel of it, only with the men pushing for the other side to be perfect to them and not offering some sort of middle-ground.
Then again from my interactions with the people from that community, I don't think they really want to compromise with women and instead just want to shift the blame of everything onto them
I'm still kinda under the impression that in an effort to expand the platform the original "thedonald" people added a bunch of lefty ones that neither side really wants to be tied to.
In the case of mgtow, I'm not sure how they can coexist on this site when it's 80% christian and (as we all know) has men who are heavily against gay stuff and do their best to support their wives. I was given an extremely stern warning from one of their mods after posting in the greatawakening section about how a family can give men inspiration to be the best they can be and be a good leader/role model. If they're going after me for "rule violations" despite not touching their section at all, I can only imagine how insufferable these cunts will be if they ever expand this site again.
I can kinda agree, even though it's hard to really put a name on what "we" are without using the broad term of conservative. Are we maga-ists? Some are, but others like myself are operating under the idea that trump has his own part in this leftist scheme that's going around, and don't want any part of it.
I'd argue the "mainstream success" of them is kinda like how fox news is mainstream: controlled chatter that they call "conservative" but is actually fairly-poorly disguised lefty stuff. Even their hiring of candace owens screamed "we need a minority to not look like a bunch of racist white people", a la what rooster teeth did 8 years ago.
It can also be attributed to literally any good/bad thing. I remember a gaming company, forget the name but I think they created "league of giants" or something, posted a report saying their diversity goals resulted in a net 5% increase in viewership. What they didn't mention was that the 2 branches where they pushed for it (europe and north america) were down 40% and the massive viewership increase was from the 95% male dominated korea/china parts.
"Abraham lincoln was black. He freed himself motherfuckers" -Discovery, 2024