What did you ban Imp for, this time round?
(media.kotakuinaction2.win)
Comments (139)
sorted by:
I think the community rules are retarded, but I won't lie that I do get sick of the repeated Jewish arguments he gets into and absolutely everything having to be about women (though he is 100% correct about men's rights being antiquated to non-existent).
Not as sick as the rest of us get of a certain other cohort making absolutely everything about the Juice.
if you can say nigger and faggot and complain about jews then you know the forum isn't on the side of globohomo
its like the big beaked canary in the coalmine
its a necessary part of the gatekeeping and anyone who has a conniption over it should stick with the matt walsh and jack posobiec crowd until they are ready to expand their horizons
And yet the stormfag crowd reveals just how pro-free speech you really are every time someone calls you on your lame bullshit and you go out of your way to try and get them banned.
You morons get away with more flagrant rule 16 violations on a daily basis on this forum than almost anything Imp says about women, and the reason you get away with it because the rest of us don't go around reporting you like the playground snitch.
Imp gets banned so often because bunch of pathetic stormfags don't like that he doesn't agree with you about the joooze so you report every fucking comment he makes, and openly talk about trying to get him banned just like you all always did with Jester.
In doing so, you reveal yourselves for the cringing, pathetic, thin-skinned, censorious, jackboot-loving, positively feminine lickspittles that you truly are.
I agree, sort of (I think your reaction is a bit over the top). Free speech needs to be absolute, and this forum is about the only place I know of online that adheres to this principle, EXCEPT for this banishment (and others I might be unaware of).
I like Imp's comments--they're always well-written and salty as hell and often really funny. You don't have to agree with him to enjoy them.
Banning the guy is cowardly and leftist (a redundancy).
calm down bro, the enemy is outside the wire
Just because we dont agree on the destination doesnt mean we dont want to move in the same direction.
We arent dirty commies and we can tolerate disagreements, even on fundamental issues
That's not been my experience.
Hell, no one on this forum has called more regularly for Imp's ban than the antisemites. Not even AoV, who thinks he's insane.
If AoV got Imp banned who would he argue endlessly pointless conversations with? Of course he wouldn't.
When did that happen? I've read damn near every message posted to this board since its inception, and I can't recall any spates of calls for Imp1's ban.
I also don't see these waves of supposed "stormfags" everywhere. We might get one or two people who are pretty clearly anti-Jewish that'll shit up a thread here and there, but the only reason they do is because Imp1 (or Jester, before he fucked off) wouldn't stop fucking responding to them. And they don't generally appear out of nowhere, "Justin Trudeau is doing something tyrannical? Must be the Jews." Whereas Imp1 will jump into damn near any thread and blame a global conspiracy of women for anything. "Someone got chocolate in my peanut butter! Must be the women." and then argue about it forever.
I see it all the time, and they constantly whine that he gets off when they report him, despite the fact that he's one of the most banned users.
There's probably somewhere around 10-15, and they are incessantly active.
Normally what happens is that each post attracts a different audience, so certain posts are overwhelmingly populated by some groups, while others are populated by other groups.
Imp and the antisemites make the same argument but blame a different group…. They are really quite similar.
wish I could figure out the magic words to bridge the civnat - wignat divide
You wanna do something about the constant use of nigger in the comments even though the rules forbid racial slurs. If Imps retarded women takes violate the rules that definitely does
Slurs at users.
Here's the thing. There is an element here of having to deal with uncomfortable commentary. Hug boxes are dangerous, and the growth of any community relies on it's ability to have interesting discussions.
Sometimes people will say off-color things, but there is a point to being able to tell those people to piss off. You should also learn how to deal with people who go about hurling slurs around in a conversation.
I can't help but notice that it's only shitting on Jews that tends to generate controversy here, not blacks.
Commies and Nazis are both collectivist trash and I’m not going to call either an ally against the other.
muh rugged individualism
Just reality. The enemy of my enemy could be just as bad as my enemy.
Nothing to do with individualism. You retards are just not on my side either
I'd like to believe you, but once again, the tactics I see stormfags employ in order to silence their critics disprove that statement, at least as far as the stormfags are concerned.
Stfu. How many more alt right bogeymen do you need to out? "I hate flat earthers!" You say in a astronomy conference. Nobody gives a shit anymore. Jews are outed here. Go back to reddit
How typical.
There's more than 2 sides.
Some of us just aren't the racist pieces of shit some of you are, while still being against globalisation.
If you're still complaining about racism then you aren't ready for honest discussions.
The only racism I have seen in my 40+ years of life in Southern California:
older asians against everyone, but especially other asians
blacks against everyone
I've never seen any kind of serious white racism because whites are so thoroughly indoctrinated that being racist is THE WORST THING EVAR. The whole reason cancel culture exists over even slightly racially charged shit (like that woman who called the police on the black man in the park threatening her dog) is because whites are on a HAIR TRIGGER over this shit. You can't even get within a country mile of anything that smells vaguely like racism without getting pounced on if you're white.
Young asians raised in the US are indoctrinated basically the same as whites, but since they themselves are not white, they see racism as just a thing white people do, because that's the libtard take.
Blacks, because they're brainwashed into thinking racism is only a thing whites do to blacks, act super racist as an aggregate group and feel it's completely justified. The more trashy and "authentic" their blackness, the more racist.
So the only issues of racism in the US today are just problems with black racism & affirmative action, which is institutional racism.
That really is it. "Racism" was basically finished in this country until obama made it an issue again because the goal of his commie handlers was never "social justice" it was "social revenge" (and has been since the 60s). And then democrats took that ball and ran with it.
But dude. We can totally live in harmony and love without tribalism. Its just those EVIL WOKE LEFTISTS who make us unable to. If you got rid of the Left then blacks would stop committing way more crimes and violence and racism would disappear. Just like the 90s I nostalgia hard for and don't actually remember race relations outside of television.
These people will die on their hippy hill before they think critically for a moment.
don't you know any thing other than muh rugged individualism is considered collectivist and leftist, also antifa are the real fascists!
If you don't think some people here are racist, you're not ready for honest anything.
Judging people based on race is dumb. Each individual merits being judged on the basis of their own accomplishments.
I am one of those racist people and there is literally nothing wrong with that.
You are not mature enough to join the discussion it would seem.
Well, except the fact you're a tool and pawn of the globalists. Thanks to you, they have an easy scapegoat to point to while they fuck the world over.
You're not mature enough to realise you're fighting who you're told to fight. One day you'll learn. Racism is a tool of the global elite and you're wielding it for them.
Of course racists comment here. So what? Harboring hate for whatever identity group isn't a crime (yet).
It's more like you are afraid of an honest discussion about race in America, probably because every assertion critical of the black chappies as a group is denounced by the left and its NPC minions as "racist" for the reasons dekachin here refers to. I agree with his take.
No, it's just retarded and doesn't solve any actual problem. It's literally what the globalist elite wants us to do, fight amongst ourselves.
Nah, you're just easily pointed to something to bicker over, while they sell oil to their Chinese partners and make money laughing about the little race conflict they ignited at home to hide all of it.
You want to talk racial issues in America ? The problem has always been the same : inner city democrats making policies that encourage gang violence in inner cities. It's not racial so much as a culture of media and democrat pushed lies brainwashing most city dwellers. But sure, focus on melanin levels instead.
The truth is, you don't want an honest discussion, you want an easy scapegoat.
Why would I cooperate with someone who is out to get me even though we ideologically align? Do I look like a fucking leftist
The reason that I know you're an idiot is that you think this is something that anybody here disagrees with.
These guys are terrified of thinking anything other than the saturday morning cartoon understanding of the world they have been indoctrinated with since their infant eyes first wandered over a screen.
A lot of people here disagree with this. Imp, the guy being discussed in this very thread, being one of them. That's the problem. You can't say "Oh I think every individual should be judged on their own merit" and then turn around and say shit like "JEUUUWWWWSSSS" and "all Wahman".
I'm willing to bet you can't come up with a definition of "racist" beyond what your cultural indoctrination has been feeding you.
Also heres a brain melter for you: "racist" isn't an description that can be applied to people, only actions. Lets see if you are a human and can handle that concept or if you are an npc and you start repeating your programmed dialogue tree.
Any definition I'd give you, no matter how correct, you'd just dismiss. No point. I just need to point to your every post being the same thing over and over again against an ethnic group and say "That's racist". Because it is. Not every ill of the world comes from Jewish people, especially not all of them as one big band of brothers.
When all your words and posts are just racism, we can safely call you a racist. Just like "Plumber" I guess. Plumbing isn't a person, it's an action too.
Says the guy's whose instant reaction to everything is "(((NOTICING THINGS)))". You're literally a 2 line of code bot. Your brain is broken.
Cool story. You are as bad as the liberals squirming when asked what a woman is. You know you don't have any reasonable definition because there isn't one. It just translates to "something I don't want to think about" and you use it because of your conditioning.
"I don't know what racism is, but you are definitely it!" And now poof, your cognitive dissonance is cleared because by labeling me you no longer have to process anything I say. That is the "case else" in the NPC dialogue tree once all of the other responses run out.
Says the guy who's literally using every tactic liberals use, dismissing entire groups based on immutable characteristics.
You're an SJW, you just scream about Jews instead of screaming about White Males.
Oh I know what it is. But I won't engage in an endless back and forth about it with a anti-semite who wants to justify his shitty world view.
no you see, that's okay. because neurotically complaining about jews is very based while neurotically complaining about women means you're deranged and probably a subversive jew.
and some people here are going to read this message and agree with it.
I prefer the crowd that says neurotically complaining about whole identity groups is deranged.
Because I remember when we used to be against identity politics.
Ironic, because this sentence alone is identity politics in a nutshell.
Because identity politics is one of the very root causes of the KIA1 schism, which created KIA2 and then .win. And its a KIA1 mantra that everyone must be against identity politics (while spamming NotYourShield and "ackshually GG was Leftwing") at all times and no other opinions are tolerated.
Funny because now the schism is retarded jew posters and people who aren't retarded jew posters and Imp
Yes, its still identity politics. You don't need to keep proving it.
Yes you are still centering yourself around identity politics. Never said you weren't. On the other hand not Jew posting isnt identity politics
Being against Identity politics is identity politics.
WTF dude. You drunk ?
NotYourShield is a counter to identity politics. It's showing that not all people off various backgrounds adhere to the same ideas and that your skin colour doesn't dictacte your opinion. Like, how do you not understand this, 8 years later ?
Seriously, you're either blind or dumb at this point.
Creating arbitrary identities in which you base your positions on is in fact identity politics. This may surprise you, but the word does have a definition beyond "that thing the bad people do." So "us good KIAer/GGers and those bad ones who do the bad things" is a form of identity politic.
And yet it still was. It was using women and blacks and others as a chip to make your movement more valid, and as a weapon against the opponent. It was saying "the BLACKS and the WOMENS agree with us, so clearly you are the REAL bad guys." Which is the exact position the Woke use everyday.
You seem to be unable to grasp that you can in fact be guilty of doing something, even if its in response to something else. So yes, the way you use the concept of being against identity politics is identity politics. You just think that because you are right, you can't be doing the bad thing. Even more ironic because that's how the Woke also think.
Being part of an online forum is not an identity. Identity politics is playing off protected classes from various civil rights acts. Religion, Race, Sex, Gender shit, Sexual orientation.
Not "I fucking use this forum".
Are you completely insane ?
It was women and blacks themselves saying "Hey, stop fucking using us a shield". It wasn't a bunch of whites using them as a shield.
My god, first you claim there's no stormcucks here, now you completely reinvent and whitewash history.
The woke think like you. "Hey, let's claim these races and sexes have these opinions". NotYourshield wasn't this and you thinking it was means you're the one acting like the wokes you moron.
Ya but that's actually true
Its the curse of trying to have any amount of free speech. You first get filled with people who have no ability to speak anywhere else and are so seething about that fact they need to shove it into every hole to get it out of their head.
He and most antisemites are incredibly retarded, not by their ideas being wrong, but by being stifled so long its driven them loopy and obsessive. Well he might still be retarded regardless.
They could have been stifled before because they were previously loopy and obsessive. Up until relatively recently social media gave quite a few warnings
Many probably were. But you know what doesn't do wonders for paranoid conspiracy theories? Shutting down any and all discussion about the topic with angry zeal the moment it comes up.
Its a self feeding cycle, in which the only real effective move is to not play into their fantasies by giving them the oppression they need.
No, but it would probably help to enforce rule 16 a bit more. Remind them that no, an article being written by a "Stein" doesn't mean some rando in Israel is out to kill them, it just means a New York based journalist is being a dilweed again. And there's no lack of New York based journalists it seems.
Alternatively. Enforce it more neutrally and equally ban everyone who shits up threads going "the antisemites, they are everywhere, ruining everything, talking out loud! Its ruining this great website!"
Because that's my big beef with it. Everyone who complains about it, does so incessantly and is just as guilty as making the place worse. Especially those who go into multi-day slap fights over and over that convinces nobody of anything.
I agree with this, for every social media platform. It's spam and incessant harassment that gets annoying. If someone drops the zionist conspiracy talking points occasionally I think most people would just ignore it. At least when it comes to banning, that shouldn't be a bannable offense. On more censor-heavy platforms I can understand those posts getting deleted.
Anti-semite is not a fucking identity you absolute idiot. It's like saying "T-shirt wearers". If you wear the t-shirt, you're a fucking t-shirt wearer. Stop wearing it if you don't want to be a t-shirt wearer. Same as stop saying anti-semetic things and you won't be an anti-semite anymore.
Rule 16 is about identifiable groups, not groups you decide to join on your own optionally and can leave at any time.
What next, fucking Justin Bieber fans as a protected class ? You truely are a grade A moron. I'm starting to think you're a stormcuck yourself.
Damn, even the first dictionary definition proves you wrong by placing personality as just as equal to character. And even character is composed of all sorts of things beyond color or gender.
Its okay to expand your worldview out of simple black white things. You might be able to make a point without devolving into a insult slinging simpleton.
I can't believe it took me so long to understand this picture. Beautiful.
Holy Shit!
He was too based for this sinful sub
He was banned for anti-semitism.
Was he? I checked his post history and it doesn't look like he was an antisemitist.
No. That was a joke. It's probably a good sign for your mental health that you don't spend enough time here to get it.
He has an uncompromising negative opinion of women, frequently argued very convincingly.
eh... Gonna have to disagree on that one. Most of his takes are, "there was a woman associated with <negative thing> therefore global female conspiracy."
Yeah, "argued very convincingly" is a huge stretch. Even when he's right, he's coming at it from some bizarre angle to make the whole thing end up looking retarded.
Leftwing politics is outright based on research into women's psychology.
That's why he ends up being correct so often.
Because once women get the right to vote they dominate politics. End Quote. Repeat the line. Joe Biden tried to warn us.
Classic Voat troll
Copypasta essays about the 6m
Get banned for breaking everyone's balls
Accuse sub of Zionism
I hear he tried to get ConsumeProduct removed
For the longest time I had no idea what he was saying when he accused all of us to have been sent by ConPro. I thought that was some conservative... whatever thang.
ConPro / ConsumeProduct appears to be grounded politically & philosophically on National Socialism: explicit anti-Capitalism, mixed with constant demands for Economic Leftism to create a form of racial-economic protectionism.
And then add all the antisemitism and calls for extermination of their asserted bourgeoisie.
If I believed every accusation of Nazism leveled against every group of people that I had no experience with ... well, I'd have been anti-#GG for one.
I don't know anything about ConsumeProduct, I don't go there or read it, but just on general principle I'm going to assume that anyone accusing them of being Nazis is a fucking liar.
Typically I’d say the same but in the past I’d seen imp essentially continue an argument from there here with someone and I’m willing to believe that about there if that individual has similar views to the rest of that sub. The problem is imp would also accuse regular people here as being from consumer product when most of us had no clue what he was talking about.
Feel free, but they might tell you otherwise. The head mod there is an open and avowed White Nationalist.
This is just my honest interpretation of them, their mods, and their stated predispositions. I'm not going to try and do some silly forum war, but I honestly doubt they would mind how I described them.
Then they would call me a "fucking kike".
ConPro is an example of a community that failed to gatekeep, and were expertly captured by trolls who are masters at gatekeeping. This should be taken as a compliment. I'm sure many of them are sincere in their beliefs.
I'm sure they are. In fact, I know they are.
Fundamentally, thier actions and efforts are extremely subversive.
Put it like this: Poal gatekeeps. The welcome page of Poal greets you with a half-dozen former Voat members who will immediately throw antisemetic comments at you, and then basically move on and talk about other things.
But some of the people who come here from that forum aren't gatekeeping, they are subverting. Every single conversation is only about jews. Any user that disagrees is then told they are a kike, a nigger, a streetshitter, a shitskin, or any other rather uncomfortable racial pejorative they can summon that isn't an anti-white slur, and by 5-10 of them at a time. They aren't gatekeeping, they are socially enforcing a very specific narrative, and will do it with unrelenting verbal abuse.
This is one of the primary reasons for Rule 15. Racial and ethnic slurs are particularly egregious in most environments, and if you used them in a public setting, there's a real likelihood your slur would be followed up with social violence because it's so wildly inappropriate in any conversation, let alone towards people you've just met. The effort of dog-piling people with slurs, while making every topic about a race war meta-narrative, creates perpetual social enforcement by a kind of racial sharia. The purpose is to conquer every single available online space and make it ideologically homogenous. The problem is, because they are Leftists, they can't build anything, so as soon as they conqure it, it begins to die.
ConPro is exactly as you said, because it was subverted, and they weren't the only ones.
Well that's always the first step isn't it? You subvert then you win then you gatekeep. When ConPro started it had nothing to do with Jews, but there is an intersection between consumerism, rootless libertine capitalism, and neomarxism which provided a vector of attack.
Yes. It just so happens, unfortunately, that each of those things is philosophically disposed to attracting National Socialism.
So he's a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer.
Imp?
No, he would never forgive white women enough to tolerate white National Socialists.
I don't think that's the case.
Imp breaks rule Sixteen each and every post.
It's a wonder he's not perma banned, the mods are very tolerant of his shit that makes us all look like idiots.
Zionists ARE a group actively subverting all of western civilization for their own game. I hate all zionists and want them all prosecuted for subversion, stripped of citizenship, and OUT of my country. I hate each and every zionist.
Most global elite aren't even Jewish.
Because you're an idiot pawn of the global elite, that's giving you a convenient scapegoat. You're as manipulated as leftist SJW and you're playing straight into their hands.
You're no different than feminists who hate all men, black people who hate all whites. You're just fighting who you've been told to fight by the people actually fucking shit up in the world.
Zionists are not an identity group but members of a political movement.
You want everyone who thinks the state of Israel has a right to exist out of your country?
How many people will be left? You and Ilhan Omar?
I don't know if the downvoters disagree with your definition of Zionism, or agree that everyone who thinks Israel can exist must be kicked out of the country.
Rule 16 is absolute horseshit intended to prevent open discussion of uncomfortable topics.
There is no good reason for it to be there.
Rule 16 is a great rule to have open discussions about uncomfortable topics. Screaming racist shit about entire groups isn't good discussion, and prevents actual discussion about issues caused by individuals.
If you haven't noticed, each time you try to bring up Soros, leftists scream "He's a jew!" because classifying people like that prevents criticism.
AKA : you're a leftist turd if you think screaming "Jew!" is an argument.
Oh look, a lying faggot.
Where's the lie ?
There wasn’t one. But you used his favorite word to dismiss criticism in your example so he had to pick something else.
Or 14 every few days.
Interesting that it took 8 days for others to notice Imp hasn't been posting.
I guess that's why he's on the binge on patriots.win, getting downvoted by Trump supporters who love their wives.
He does several things that annoy various groups before even touching on the context of his posts.
He spams the board daily, and were rule 14 not in place he'd like spam even more. He still skirts around this since depending on some UIs you can't see the specific time a post is made. I can't see when your post is made on mobile for example, it only says "1 Hour ago", but on desktop if I mouse over that it says "Sat Jul 16 14:11:49 GMT 2022". Same deal with OPs, I only see the specific time they are posted if I'm checking things on desktop which I and others may not always be able to so checking whether several new posts are in fact breaking rule 14 can be a problem.
He never admits to the times he is wrong, which are often because he's generalised enough to put everything he talks about under the banner of "woman man bad". It's termed in different ways like "the shotgun approach", "throwing lots of shit and seeing what sticks", "spraying and praying" where through sheer volume of statements made some are likely to end up being accurate, even just partially accurate, that he considers himself vindicated in the rest of his sperging.
Somewhat related he never accepts criticism is even genuine, instead choosing to blame each and every downvote and pushback on "stormcucks", "ConPro", "TERFs", and whatever other boogey
woman he can think up just SJWs do with their ongoing list of "incels, alt-right, deplorables, hwute/YTs," which brings me to the next point.He behaves precisely like SJWs in many ways except from the other side of the divide. The "no bad tactics, only targets" concept gets applied with extreme prejudice to almost every woman that exists whether he knows them or not, often regardless of whether he does not as much like SJWs facts only get in the way of ideology. He's called out on this more frequently as time passes, both by myself and others, because more users end up seeing him dip into sperg posting however AoV is possibly one of the few around who still bothers to regularly argue with him. I'll occasionally point things out but it's evident he isn't going to change on any of this regardless of how many times he gets proved wrong because those handful of times he's almost right are enough to keep him going.
Some users likely end up blocking him but all that does is reinforce his echo chamber.
It's more than that though. I could even forgive him for just saying, "I don't like or trust women." Fine, you've been damaged, whatever.
He takes it the next step into utter nonsense though: "woman man bad. All women are in a secret global conspiracy to exterminate undesirable men. See these crazy women? All women believe these same crazy things and have the same crazy goals."
Or have at least lived with them long enough to notice they aren’t actively trying to destroy their lives or kill them in their sleep.
Only related to the post because imp related….. but has he ever gone off about our mascot being Vivian yet.
I saw that he got a 4 day ban a couple of days ago for yet another joo dustup with some other retards.
It's a 16 day ban issued 8 days ago so still another 8 days to go.
They banned him? You can take the jannies out of Reddit, but you can’t take the Reddit out of the jannies.
He's become our biweekly wicker man. We demand a bountiful harvest.
/pours TERFs inside helmet
"Not the Ts! Aaagh, not the Ts!"
Only mod is Dom. I don't think clock is active.