Redditor realizes that the racists were right
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I hate how it’s considered extreme to say that a country should determine immigration levels (based on what’s best for the country so not drastically messing with demographics) or that immigrants need to assimilate. Best examples are the ones who move to a western country and then whine about Christmas celebrations
Assimilation is impossible as different races and nationalities have a different culture.
Assimilation is possible when the foreign elements are in a small enough proportion. In order to fit in, they have no choice but to give up many aspects of their former culture and to adopt the prevailing one instead, else they are shunned or penalized and lose opportunities. But when there are large enough enclaves of their former culture, then the need to adapt is lost, and they become protective of their own, becoming hostile to any attempt to change them.
Immigration only works in small quantities, with people who are willing and incentivized to fully adapt. Mass immigration never works, unless as a conquering force.
So if you moved to India you would start shitting in the streets after a long day scamming and harassing under aged girls?
You’re touching on an interesting idea: cultural hierarchies.
We can safely say that some cultures are bad. This necessarily implies that some cultures are good. The moment you introduce this sort of hierarchy into the discussion, people are going to start evaluating their life choices with respect to all the “data”. That’s why mass immigration only moves one way: from shit countries to prosperous ones. That’s why people who can afford to do so choose to live in white neighborhoods and send their kids to white schools.
Yes, that's why I've never been to India.
I think that pretty explicitly eliminates that option.
I'd not want to live in a culture like that so that question is irrelevant to me personally. Literally one of the last places I would go to, India is such a shithole. Say I go to America to live there, I'd celebrate July the 4th, thanksgiving etc. Its part of the culture and I would like to fit in. Literally what it should mean when you immigrate somewhere but some just want to make the country they went to into their old country.
Don't forget gang-raping monitor lizards
You might not get full melting pot assimilation but above a certain IQ threshold you can get people to settle differences and get along well enough to coexist peacefully.
Name one time that has happened
There are several cities where you've got French, British, and Germans all living next to each other and not engaging in 8000 year old blood grudge warfare.
Assimilation is not a part of 2 out of 3 Abrahamic religions.
Civic nationalism is a lie.
Press 1 for English isn't about helping Mexicans, it a victory lap declaring the American pre-civil rights America is dead.
There shouldn't ever be an option for anything other than English. If you can't speak our language then you don't belong here and should be appropriately inconvenienced and actively antagonized about the fact that you don't belong here.
That's kind of a bullshit thing to say when you're calling a call center in the Philippines. They should offer two languages, in that case.
Call centers in the Philippines shouldn't be answering American callers, they should be answering Philippino callers.
If it's just a call center, why can't they answer both?
All you need is someone to talk to. The companies that are running these call centers are international.
The call centers in Atlanta seem slightly better. I will give you that. Indian ones suck. Otherwise, it varies.
You're a fucking idiot.
I disagree there. Being able to hold a conversation, and knowing technical vocabulary is completely different.
It isn't a technical issue, it is a symbolic one.
When you force American English speakers to go through an extra step to get their language you are saying "you aren't the norm anymore, you are one of a range of options." And by having spanish everywhere you are telling the invaders/immigrants "don't bother assimilating, you are equally important to the natives".
It is one of many incremental steps toward the cultural transformation of the country away from distinctly White Anglo toward a global economic zone.
If there are really people who are not learning English that is fucked up. Spanish language service from teh cable company for grandma to get her soaps is not the most significant sign of the invasion to me.
In the past, English was never enforced as the primary language. It just was that way, except in places where it wasn't. That is good enough for me, the way it was, pre-invasion.
It's included in disability support services.
Those regulations also need to go.
You don't want your grandparents or people in wheelchairs to be protected?
I want businesses owners to choose for themselves how to best serve their customers.
If a business thinks a wheelchair ramp and giant bathroom stalls helps them then great, if they don't then also great. No need to bring lawyers and bureaucrats into it.
The Federal Government literally told all of the Cajun grandparents that English was the language of the land and they had to speak it to use government services. Which is basically one of the main reasons it died out as a language and requires active effort to keep alive to this day.
So why did Spanish get the exact opposite treatment?
I agree, not being able to speak english is a disability
A country doesn't even need to determine them. They should be constitutionally fixed to be lower than replacement levels of the citizen demographic. Low immigration is tolerable when they can't come in large enough numbers to create the miniature states within states as they do now. Without those they have to assimilate and can't derail the local culture. Anything higher is sabotage.
Before Hart-Cellar, immigration to America was fixed to maintain existing racial/ethnic demographics. Proponents of the bill, including the Jewish man who championed it for most of his life, promised that it would not be used to remake the demographics of the country. They were leftists and their lips were moving, so of course they were lying.
In other words: the very sensible and rational thing you suggest was status quo 60 years ago. They changed it on purpose in order to create the chaos we find ourselves in today. And when you look into it, yes, it turns out that “they” are precisely whom you expect.
Democrats.
Just democrats.
and this was never voted on or decided by the citizens, it was just done to us.
No arguments. I’ve long said when in Rome do as Romans do is a very simple process and concept
I hate how suddenly an influx of foreigners that seek to replace you in your own society is NOT a problem and we should stop being dirty racists because clearly we aren’t being culturally washed out of existence by mongrels
I hate seeing those who express those concerns being vilified
It's not extreme to say it and if you care what the regime and reddit thinks is "extreme" then you've already been defeated mentally.
It's extremely extreme to think it's extreme blah blah who gives a shit
Confusing but I get your point
Right. The point is you're letting them set a framework in YOUR mind for what other people consider extreme when the fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of normies want all these motherfuckers deported with "extreme" prejudice lol
Immigration is perennially unpopular with the hoi polloi and popular with elites. There is also the desire to be the last one in the door, at least after they get their whole family in. Tho with certain groups those can be very large families.
"I liked being surrounded by different ethnic backgrounds and races and diverse viewpoints"
You were told this was a good thing™, that you were a good person™ for accepting it.
It was never a good thing, you were never a good person for accepting it.
At one point it was carefully curated to ensure only the best face was put on it. Now, like OP says, it's totally out of hand.
Diversity isn't strength, it's a side effect of meritocracy. If you want the best you'll need to take the highly skilled from every culture. This is manageable if they're a minority, but if you bring in every dingbat and schitzo diversity is a massive detriment to society.
Different cultures don’t magically become compatible because someone is a doctor. All mass immigration is invasion. Selling out your countryman so number can go up is traitor behavior no different than facilitating Muslim takeover.
I don’t want the best of every culture. I want 100% of MY culture.
The melting pot was a good analogy. You want chilli, you don't want a bowl full of onions picked out of the chilli.
Indian food fucking sucks. There I said it
Oh stop. Indian food is awesome, as are most of the famous ethnic cuisines (Thai, French, Italian, Tex-Mex etc).
But, in the words of Rowan Atkinson... we have the recipes (1:20)
Growing up with a lot of turks I gotta say: I can live without lamachun being easily available when it means less /no turks.
People like that were 100% blind to the issue or told by their parents to just be nice about it. Isn't it even in our DNA to want to be close to our tribe and not have anyone outside it close?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeA-jG_sRj4
It's already too late for Canuckstan. The borders are still wide open, the vast majority still thinks talking about 'mass immigration' is a taboo subject that makes them racist and the official party line of both parties is pro mass immigration (just not so much, anymore) due to the geopolitical and neoliberal interests of the Canuckstanian elite.
The average Canuckstanian is screwed.
And if Trump wins then all our illegals will flee north as well. lmao
Actually a shit ton of our immigrants are using Canada as a pipeline into the US. They only stay here long enough to get PR, or sometimes not even, and then make a beeline for the US border. More of them all the time, because Canada has become so completely unlivable that even the gimmiegrants are fleeing.
It’s so crazy that in 2016 we wanted to build a wall around Mexico and the Democrats have made it so that in 2024 that wall would be better used at the Canadian border instead
I wouldn’t say better used…. That wall down south is still very much needed.
we should just annex canada and everything south to the panama canal.
Many people already call the country "America", why not just make it official? One America.
I keep telling people that we need a northern wall too, but nobody listens!
Sadly, that subreddit's been permanently banned.
Any subreddit which allows people to discuss and realize failures of leftism are banned
Any subreddit that doesn’t consoom or spread “the message” is considered worthless to the Reddit gods
Humanity is setting itself up for a big fail. Karma. Hell, why should I want asians and africans to inherit the earth? Fuck them. Let the rats rise up and take over, starting with Jew York.
Whites are setting themselves up to fail.
Once whites are gone, then civilization will be gone, too.
First, all the "immunocompromised" will die ...
What? They don't like falafel?
Falalafell?
Ah, the Eorzean Jews...
God bless Japan for giving me all the ammunition I need to go on lore-accurate rants about The Monetarists being at the heart of every ill that has befallen Eorzea and I'm completely safe from banning. Balmung will hear the Truth no matter what happens in the Quicksands!
Where even the most jolly, charitable man in the world, who hires refugees to staff his business outright says "Fuck this bleeding heart nonsense, are you TRYING to make your people hate you?"
If we have to link to falafail sites!
Goddamn Tarutarus.
Indians do suck. I don't care for muzzies, but at least the ones I've had to interact with personally are generally pleasant. Indians they got exactly right, rude and annoying.
Pakistanis are indian muslims. Bad news!
Too soon old, too late smart.
At least this Redditor had a breaking point and came around. I personally know lefties that acknowledge how bad things have become but still refuse to change. The most egregious example with them? The current sitting president.
Biden is obviously not fit for office! You see it and admit it! Why are you still going to vote for him if he runs!? How is "bad orange man" worse than that!?
Leftists are just media consensus gluttons. Virtually all of their lives were objectively better under Trump, but they suffered constant psychological trauma from leftist media and politicians. Now lefties are suffering real hardship owing to their own leftist policy, but they think things are still better because they “feel” better without orange man in charge. It’s all congruent with the left’s neurotic and overly emotional temperament, expressed frequently as literal mental illness.
I think they call them conservatives. We know there's an issue with immigration but it's not the immigrants fault, it's the system.
Too little, too late.
This, but with blacks and Mexicans instead
i know 2 canadians in my BDO guild. they both dont like indians and they say the same exact things as this reddit post.
but yeah.. probably too late to do anything about it. probably 5-10 years from canada electing an indian PM that will turn that lose anus into a hotdog in a hallway when it comes to immigration from india.
At this point we were right just about every single things. Religion, JQ, vaccines. And I don't have any optimism because these normies are far too slow on the uptake, I come to look down on them for being slow but the worst of all arrogant for no reason.
Classic divide and conquer. Import the latest adversary so the people never coalesce against the true criminals in tyrannical governments.
We can hang the pols and deport the pakijeets at the same time
The Quran tells their followers to do this.
Immigration should look at current growth rates and look at expansion of services, utilities and residential housing supply and cap it so they are not restricted or under pressure.
The high immigration rates are causing housing supply issues across the western world butnits not just that, trying to go to GPs, dentists, etc. have long waiting lists and they are getting longer.
Countries for too long have only measured growth by measuring gross GDP increase and not looking at things like GDP per capita increase and real wage growth metrics that look at whether the actual people in the countries lives are improving or is it just the governments coffers getting bloated for more pork to barrel.