I mean obviously I don't know the details of the relationship they mention, but if I were to assume from the comments that we are talking about a man who wants a family finding a young woman who wants the same, then it's really a good deal for all involved. The woman gets am eatablished doctor, so likely a good solid foundation to support a family and the man gets a prime age mother without a bunch of baggage left from previous relationships, marriages, etc.
Everything else about the age is really made up constructs. They are both fully adults.
I said it in another thread. Women hate competition. Dudes a resident doctor, girl wants to believe she can bag his equivalent. I’m just hoping I can pop enough popcorn for the societal meltdown women are going to have in 5-10 years when the artificial womb is pumping out healthy babies.
I’m just hoping I can pop enough popcorn for the societal meltdown women are going to have in 5-10 years when the artificial womb is pumping out healthy babies.
Women will do everything in their power to ban the human use of the artificial womb. In all likelihood it will get price regulated by government so only surrogate millionaires can use it. The right will call it evil while demanding men continue simping for the largest female population on hormonal birth control since puberty. The reality is whatever country is the first to throw women in the ditch and start pumping these out will be the new superpower in 50 years when the process is upgraded and a bunch of in vitro babies hit military age. China will have no qualms doing so but I doubt they will be the winner. Russia possibly, it would have to be a country that could handle mass expansion and not tied down by feminism.
the problem is, meeting a younger woman who wants a family is a big "if". I've seen this kind of relationship start a few times, usually the thought of starting a family doesn't even cross their minds until a year or two in. the man, being older, we'll typically be the first person to want to start a family but the woman will not feel like she's ready yet. this tension leads to a bad breakup.
of all the relationships I've been around in my life, this has been 70+% of them.
"Life experience" is womanspeak for mental baggage. At least a 20-something has other things to talk about other than her past boyfriends and how all her friends are married with kids.
What they call "too experienced to put up with his crap" is really her just making him pay for the sins of other men. Chad strung her along for sex without committing to her, so Billy Beta doesn't get any until 6 months and several thousand dollars in. Tyrone used to deepthroat her with a dirty dick so no blowjobs for Billy. Julio made her do all the housework while he dealt drugs out of their shared residence, so Billy has to do all the housework in addition to making all the money. The real question is what's in it for Billy or anyone else dumb enough to get involved with her.
Basically. A 23 year old is vibrant and is less likely to have been run through or a single mom already. A single 33 year old is a jaded mess that is bitter because none of her poor decisions ended up in any form of commitment.
$20 says the bitch who thinks a 20-something year old doesn't have enough life experience to make informed decisions also thinks a 13 year old is old enough to decide to get their genitals cut off.
My parents are 12 years apart, almost exactly the age-range in the post, except for one difference; my mom is the older one. When I was born, my dad was 26 and my mom was 38. Then my sister was born 3 years later, at 29 and 41. I definitely have a bit of the 'tism, and my sister is an indoctrinated Leftist, so it's hard to tell what's actually wrong with her outside of that and being a woman.
Would the OP have the same gross-out response to my parent's relationship? My dad was the sole breadwinner for their entire 20 year marriage, and he pulled his weight without a doubt. Where's the concern for his "life experience"? It only ever goes one way with them, and only after they get moved from the express line to the last-resort line. I hate how predictable they all are.
33F 🫠 “because I want time to have healthy kids and women post 35 have high risk pregnancies”. Mind you he is a RESIDENT DOCTOR.
And he’s insane to think 33 is reasonable as that’s less than 2 years from meeting to married and a child. He is completely correct that women post 35 are drastically higher risk and make up the majority of child with birth defects and autism. In fact anything over 30 is a gamble because 35 is the AVERAGE.
This 35 year old seems to be about as mature as the hypothetical 23 year old the doctor wants to date. This post reads like a teen girl's blog circa 2008.
Any woman in a workplace full of women will eventually try to reform her high school in the workplace. I just came out of an organization that went from male dominated to female dominated, and it has essentially degraded to a cross between Yes, Minister and Mean Girls.
If that were impossible, I'd not be a father. I dunno how vanishingly rare it is. I never asked. But yeah don't assume it's not gonna happen. If in fact you don't want it to happen.
Oddly, women are less afraid of muslim immigrants than their own men beating them. i dunno what the statistics are on that. I dont' beat women. But there's basically an assumption that men do.
Therapy makes both men and women unattractive to the opposite sex but for different reasons. It makes men look like pussies and outs women as nutcases whose behavior in the relationship will worsen on the advice of their therapist.
I'd add an additional reason for women, and it's very similar to the one for men; it shows they're easily led, probably by anyone. The therapist won't be the only one to give her bad advice and have her believe it. It's a huge red flag. Basically, it makes men and women both look like pussies, in slightly different ways.
Bro, I’m gonna give you a harsh reality check. It’s because you’re short. I’m 6’4 225 lbs with a six pack, and have no problem on dating sites whatsoever. I don’t even send messages normally, I just respond to messages sent to me. It’s not fair and it sucks that women are so shallow, but you need to stop lying to yourself so you can assess your situation properly and work from there.
I know you’re 5’6 because you’ve said it before, and you think everyone else is too dumb to realize they’re just getting replied to by bots and scammers because you don’t get any responses. I’m just making sure you know that no, men over 6’0 get messages from actual women who then have sex with them.
At 37, I think I'd have to be in a pretty bad place mentally to want to do anything romantic or sexual with someone in their early 20s. I know it's legal, I know it's "consenting adults," but I remember being in my early 20s and it's a very vulnerable time. They also just seem like kids to me - I don't want a kid.
**Also, men our age are hot and (usually) have way more to offer. **
This is the top comment in the archive link. Obviously the bolded part is the most hilarious.
But also within that there's a few gems:
"I remember being in my early 20's and it's a very vulnerable time"
"I don't want a kid"
Remember at this stage most mentally healthy people have been driven off reddit
I'm not as gung ho about dating younger women as certain parts of the Manosphere since AF/BB still applies and it does nothing to solve the problem of women having extreme amounts of social and legal power over men who make the mistake of getting legally entangled with them. That said it's obviously a better deal if those downsides come with a young attractive woman instead of a a ran through whore. These hags are just mad that their scheme of securing a retirement plan via divorce rape is becoming less viable.
Also, men our age are hot and (usually) have way more to offer.
And women her age have less to offer, which is why she's an inspin and men still in the game are seeking to date younger. You also have to laugh at the complete lack of self awareness in this statement, because it's a classic example of the apex fallacy and this cunt doesn't even realize it. Remember that "men" is Womanese for "Chad and Tyrone". There are plenty of men that are dumb enough to play her sick little game but they're not the rich alphas that feminism told her she's entitled to after spending 20 years on the cock carousel.
Not just for the sensible reasons the man gave but I'm betting this'll be more common in the future in terms of younger women with older men as thanks to a lot of indoctrination to be trans, that to flirt invites harassment accusations and opportunities available for young men in employment, they are getting fucked in the dating market.
At least they have the future option of dating younger and gain the benefit of having authority through experience a lot of women crave, women in their late 30s are fucked unless they get extremely lucky.
Just to clarify, the worst part about the entire rant is he didn’t say he wants to bag a 23 year old. He just answered her question as to the youngest he’s willing to go.
peak age for women is around 24.. and drops off hard at 28. anything over 30 is just used up and lots of baggage. most guys will date younger women if they are able to. they will cheat with younger women.
Yeah no, I can't imagine actually having a relationship with women my age. My wife is ten years younger than I am and it's a good fit. I really think it's a big part of why marriages used to be worked out with an age difference like that.
No I wasn't kidding. Straight up, almost all women do not have the same kind of mental processes or priorities a man has, and that's biological.
What you are describing is herd mentality. They don't have much of a personality so they adapt to what they perceive as the group dynamic. These people aren't left or right, they're sheep.
It becomes a full-time job babysitting who she associates with.
Even women who come from solid homes get sidetracked by befriending or hanging out in a friend group with feminists. There are so many stories on Strong Successful Male, Pattsun, or r/Space where the woman starts off decent but then gets a job and has feminist coworkers who lead her astray.
Sadly, any man getting married to a woman in the West is playing Russian roulette when it comes to her long-term fidelity.
There are 38-40 year-old women who do have kids, but if you are a man starting a family you probably want 2-3 kids and a wife that has energy to put up with them. Lets also take in to account that it takes about 2 years of dating + marriage until the first kid. Having a kid but no energy is a pain, is no fun, having kids and a ton of energy is a lot of fun.
Case in point, I want another child but my wife does not have energy for it and she is younger then this woman.
But you guys are forgetting the political bias of younger women who overwhelmingly skew to the left-liberal progressive side of the spectrum. They're the ones who want open borders, genocidal abortion rights, Muslim fetishization, etc.
Nah. She finds it gross because it makes her feel bad about herself, and saying it's gross is way for her to admonish it without sounding like a selfish, insecure cunt.
It's also hilarious how they all agree that women in their early 20's aren't capable of making informed decisions, yet these are the same Democrats who want to lower the voting age to 16 and want to allow 12 year olds to stop puberty.
Minus the very clear benefits biologically if you want kids hooking up with someone in their low 20s, it also sounds incredibly draining mentally. They still have teen brain... but they aren't yet bitchy hag mode mid 30s brings... pick your poison. More pros for the former.
Man, I love these threads, they're an infinite flow of amusement. It just keeps going.
Yes. Men do.
That is all.
I mean obviously I don't know the details of the relationship they mention, but if I were to assume from the comments that we are talking about a man who wants a family finding a young woman who wants the same, then it's really a good deal for all involved. The woman gets am eatablished doctor, so likely a good solid foundation to support a family and the man gets a prime age mother without a bunch of baggage left from previous relationships, marriages, etc.
Everything else about the age is really made up constructs. They are both fully adults.
I said it in another thread. Women hate competition. Dudes a resident doctor, girl wants to believe she can bag his equivalent. I’m just hoping I can pop enough popcorn for the societal meltdown women are going to have in 5-10 years when the artificial womb is pumping out healthy babies.
That comment of yours is what reminded me to post this. I saw it when the thread was posted and archived it for later then forgot about it for a week.
What do you think will happen?
Women will do everything in their power to ban the human use of the artificial womb. In all likelihood it will get price regulated by government so only surrogate millionaires can use it. The right will call it evil while demanding men continue simping for the largest female population on hormonal birth control since puberty. The reality is whatever country is the first to throw women in the ditch and start pumping these out will be the new superpower in 50 years when the process is upgraded and a bunch of in vitro babies hit military age. China will have no qualms doing so but I doubt they will be the winner. Russia possibly, it would have to be a country that could handle mass expansion and not tied down by feminism.
the problem is, meeting a younger woman who wants a family is a big "if". I've seen this kind of relationship start a few times, usually the thought of starting a family doesn't even cross their minds until a year or two in. the man, being older, we'll typically be the first person to want to start a family but the woman will not feel like she's ready yet. this tension leads to a bad breakup.
of all the relationships I've been around in my life, this has been 70+% of them.
These posts are an addiction of mine. I love when accountability is forced upon post-wall women.
"Life experience" is womanspeak for mental baggage. At least a 20-something has other things to talk about other than her past boyfriends and how all her friends are married with kids.
What they call "too experienced to put up with his crap" is really her just making him pay for the sins of other men. Chad strung her along for sex without committing to her, so Billy Beta doesn't get any until 6 months and several thousand dollars in. Tyrone used to deepthroat her with a dirty dick so no blowjobs for Billy. Julio made her do all the housework while he dealt drugs out of their shared residence, so Billy has to do all the housework in addition to making all the money. The real question is what's in it for Billy or anyone else dumb enough to get involved with her.
Basically. A 23 year old is vibrant and is less likely to have been run through or a single mom already. A single 33 year old is a jaded mess that is bitter because none of her poor decisions ended up in any form of commitment.
$20 says the bitch who thinks a 20-something year old doesn't have enough life experience to make informed decisions also thinks a 13 year old is old enough to decide to get their genitals cut off.
And she probably banged her first dude at 13. But she’s still “just a kid.”
My parents are 12 years apart, almost exactly the age-range in the post, except for one difference; my mom is the older one. When I was born, my dad was 26 and my mom was 38. Then my sister was born 3 years later, at 29 and 41. I definitely have a bit of the 'tism, and my sister is an indoctrinated Leftist, so it's hard to tell what's actually wrong with her outside of that and being a woman.
Would the OP have the same gross-out response to my parent's relationship? My dad was the sole breadwinner for their entire 20 year marriage, and he pulled his weight without a doubt. Where's the concern for his "life experience"? It only ever goes one way with them, and only after they get moved from the express line to the last-resort line. I hate how predictable they all are.
And he’s insane to think 33 is reasonable as that’s less than 2 years from meeting to married and a child. He is completely correct that women post 35 are drastically higher risk and make up the majority of child with birth defects and autism. In fact anything over 30 is a gamble because 35 is the AVERAGE.
This 35 year old seems to be about as mature as the hypothetical 23 year old the doctor wants to date. This post reads like a teen girl's blog circa 2008.
Maturity ends at age 15 across the board
Yeah, that's apparent in a lot of ways. I want to count the amount of times they say "gross" but I don't have all night.
Women at one of my work places have started unironically saying “the ick”. It makes me want to blow my brains out.
Any woman over the age of like 13 currently is getting most of their "culture" and personality from Tiktok.
Its almost worth keeping an eye on what's popular there just for the predictive power it'll give you.
Any woman in a workplace full of women will eventually try to reform her high school in the workplace. I just came out of an organization that went from male dominated to female dominated, and it has essentially degraded to a cross between Yes, Minister and Mean Girls.
I love when they accuse men in their thirties of "grooming" women in their mid twenties. My eyes can only roll so far.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......
Hey, if the kid comes out retarded she can scam him for child support past the usual 18 years.
If that were impossible, I'd not be a father. I dunno how vanishingly rare it is. I never asked. But yeah don't assume it's not gonna happen. If in fact you don't want it to happen.
I'm in a great place mentally and I would love nothing better than to be plowing a 21 year old right now.
She's lying. She'd love to get plowed by a chad in his 20's too. It's just not gonna happen and she knows it.
If single women ruled the world - the FIRST law they would pass would be banning women 1 year younger than herself dating or getting married
Wasn't that because muslim immigrants were running around, harassing and raping women, and their response was to basically punish 'all men'?
I really adore how women(everywhere, not just the UK) expect men to police their own without understanding the full implications and consequences.
I recall it was because of a white woman who was murdered by her white boyfriend.
But they've probably floated the idea multiple times.
Oddly, women are less afraid of muslim immigrants than their own men beating them. i dunno what the statistics are on that. I dont' beat women. But there's basically an assumption that men do.
Therapy makes both men and women unattractive to the opposite sex but for different reasons. It makes men look like pussies and outs women as nutcases whose behavior in the relationship will worsen on the advice of their therapist.
I'd add an additional reason for women, and it's very similar to the one for men; it shows they're easily led, probably by anyone. The therapist won't be the only one to give her bad advice and have her believe it. It's a huge red flag. Basically, it makes men and women both look like pussies, in slightly different ways.
I dipped my toe back into online dating last year it seemed like every other woman specifically stated she wants a man who's in therapy.
But you're right. They can say they want that, but they won't like it once they get it.
Bro, I’m gonna give you a harsh reality check. It’s because you’re short. I’m 6’4 225 lbs with a six pack, and have no problem on dating sites whatsoever. I don’t even send messages normally, I just respond to messages sent to me. It’s not fair and it sucks that women are so shallow, but you need to stop lying to yourself so you can assess your situation properly and work from there.
I know you’re 5’6 because you’ve said it before, and you think everyone else is too dumb to realize they’re just getting replied to by bots and scammers because you don’t get any responses. I’m just making sure you know that no, men over 6’0 get messages from actual women who then have sex with them.
This is the top comment in the archive link. Obviously the bolded part is the most hilarious.
But also within that there's a few gems:
"I remember being in my early 20's and it's a very vulnerable time"
"I don't want a kid"
Remember at this stage most mentally healthy people have been driven off reddit
She was getting blasted in her asshole in her 20s.
I'm not as gung ho about dating younger women as certain parts of the Manosphere since AF/BB still applies and it does nothing to solve the problem of women having extreme amounts of social and legal power over men who make the mistake of getting legally entangled with them. That said it's obviously a better deal if those downsides come with a young attractive woman instead of a a ran through whore. These hags are just mad that their scheme of securing a retirement plan via divorce rape is becoming less viable.
And women her age have less to offer, which is why she's an inspin and men still in the game are seeking to date younger. You also have to laugh at the complete lack of self awareness in this statement, because it's a classic example of the apex fallacy and this cunt doesn't even realize it. Remember that "men" is Womanese for "Chad and Tyrone". There are plenty of men that are dumb enough to play her sick little game but they're not the rich alphas that feminism told her she's entitled to after spending 20 years on the cock carousel.
Not just for the sensible reasons the man gave but I'm betting this'll be more common in the future in terms of younger women with older men as thanks to a lot of indoctrination to be trans, that to flirt invites harassment accusations and opportunities available for young men in employment, they are getting fucked in the dating market.
At least they have the future option of dating younger and gain the benefit of having authority through experience a lot of women crave, women in their late 30s are fucked unless they get extremely lucky.
Just to clarify, the worst part about the entire rant is he didn’t say he wants to bag a 23 year old. He just answered her question as to the youngest he’s willing to go.
peak age for women is around 24.. and drops off hard at 28. anything over 30 is just used up and lots of baggage. most guys will date younger women if they are able to. they will cheat with younger women.
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Yeah no, I can't imagine actually having a relationship with women my age. My wife is ten years younger than I am and it's a good fit. I really think it's a big part of why marriages used to be worked out with an age difference like that.
If your main issue is mental maturity, give up on women.
No I wasn't kidding. Straight up, almost all women do not have the same kind of mental processes or priorities a man has, and that's biological.
What you are describing is herd mentality. They don't have much of a personality so they adapt to what they perceive as the group dynamic. These people aren't left or right, they're sheep.
Sure, but there's another issue:
It becomes a full-time job babysitting who she associates with.
Even women who come from solid homes get sidetracked by befriending or hanging out in a friend group with feminists. There are so many stories on Strong Successful Male, Pattsun, or r/Space where the woman starts off decent but then gets a job and has feminist coworkers who lead her astray.
Sadly, any man getting married to a woman in the West is playing Russian roulette when it comes to her long-term fidelity.
There are 38-40 year-old women who do have kids, but if you are a man starting a family you probably want 2-3 kids and a wife that has energy to put up with them. Lets also take in to account that it takes about 2 years of dating + marriage until the first kid. Having a kid but no energy is a pain, is no fun, having kids and a ton of energy is a lot of fun.
Case in point, I want another child but my wife does not have energy for it and she is younger then this woman.
But you guys are forgetting the political bias of younger women who overwhelmingly skew to the left-liberal progressive side of the spectrum. They're the ones who want open borders, genocidal abortion rights, Muslim fetishization, etc.
I have to post the meme again:
https://files.catbox.moe/wo6jro.png
Nah. She finds it gross because it makes her feel bad about herself, and saying it's gross is way for her to admonish it without sounding like a selfish, insecure cunt.
It's also hilarious how they all agree that women in their early 20's aren't capable of making informed decisions, yet these are the same Democrats who want to lower the voting age to 16 and want to allow 12 year olds to stop puberty.
Minus the very clear benefits biologically if you want kids hooking up with someone in their low 20s, it also sounds incredibly draining mentally. They still have teen brain... but they aren't yet bitchy hag mode mid 30s brings... pick your poison. More pros for the former.
Hey archive is back to blocking me again.
The best way I've seen it put just recently;
A man works hard, gets successful, and thinks to himself, 'Finally, I can support a family.'
A woman works hard, gets successful, and thinks to herself, 'Finally, I don't need no man.'