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“Science teacher” pretends to understand science (media.scored.co)
posted 2 years ago by Ahaus667 2 years ago by Ahaus667 +54 / -0
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– Kienan 53 points 2 years ago +53 / -0

I like how - even among this absolute sea of bullshit framing and extreme cope - the actual "trans" stuff still seems anti-scientific. You know you've got a losing argument when you can go from 'molds have thousands of sexes' to 'let's talk about trans humans' and you still look like a fucking schizo cultist.

And you can be male because you have two X chromosomes, but your heart and brain are male.

Hahaha. You're a fucking joke.

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– RondoOBlongo 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

but your heart and brain are male.

Essentialism wins!

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– APDSmith 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

... does anybody with a male heart and a male brain in a female body make it out of the womb, or do they die in vitro due to what I must assume would be a massive autoimmune response?

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– RoulerBleu 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

She ment esoteric ''your heart and soul totally is what you delusional imagination fabricated in your head''.

As for the vanishingly-rare chimeras of fraternal twins of different sexes where one embryo was absorbed by the other, if they are alive at birth, they can live a normal life and usually never know they are a chimera. Usually only few parts of the body present a DNA patchwork.

If the fraternal twin was the same sex there is no fertility issue. If it's the opposite sex it can result in infertility if the patchwork is too strong within the sex organs.

In extremely rare cases, paternity / maternity tests incorrectly led people to believe a child wasen't theirs, but you can tell something is off because the child would seem to be from the uncle/aunt ( the chimeric DNA is from a fraternal twin ).

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– APDSmith 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

All good points. Ones I might expect someone familar with the topic, such as a science teacher, to be able to make, rather than wishy-washy talk like "but your heart and brain are male."

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– Gizortnik 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

This isn't even transgender (if they were being honest). After all, gender is entirely social. There is no reason to even speak about male and female due to it being a social construct. This is why you don't need either surgery or "passing" to be transgender.

This is someone attempting to refute biological sex entirely.

And also that whole "body/brain" thing is entirely fictious. There is no such thing. The brain doesn't develop a separate sex.

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– Shitheel5000 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

If the comment changed "sexual" to human or even mammalian in the first sentence, her entire argument would have never had the option to muddy the waters with extra information that she knows don't fit the intended context.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

"Sexual Dimorophism isn't so clear cut in humans"

"What does that have to do with transgenderism, a political ideology?"

No animal can be transgender, because no animal is political.

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– Shitheel5000 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They will never admit that is a political ideology. They will just keep trying to use circular reasoning to prove it into existence.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Just as they will claim that Marxism is an economic theory and not a political ideology.

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– RoulerBleu 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

But, muh gender-fluid ducks and non-binary donkey!

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– Smith1980 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

Aren’t xxy or any other combos a mutation? Doesn’t change the fact that xx and xy exist. At least with the xxy it’s actually a legit mutation and not “I feel like I’m a woman”

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– Ahaus667 [S] 51 points 2 years ago +51 / -0

Yes, this is the scientific equivalent of calling a man with six fingers a new species.

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– Smith1980 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

I foolishly got into an argument with one of these people and used that analogy. They said it wasn’t the same

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– Ahaus667 [S] 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Then they should be able to show how it’s different…

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– Smith1980 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

I should’ve used the Bender “oh you are serious, let me laugh harder” line on them

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The Six finger man? I know someone who is looking for him. Bigfoot will have his REvenge!

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– AlfredicEnglishRules 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

All those blurry shots and only the tell tale sign of six fingers to find.

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– deleted 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0
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– Smith1980 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

And that is a legit evidence backed mutation for lack of a better word. That is what needs to be discussed

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– Gizortnik 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

That's because intersex people are very easy to identify and are probably the strongest case situation of someone not fitting the male/female dichotomy properly due to deformities. They may also require surgeries.

Transgenderism is a political ideology, using innocent people as a human shield to advance a larger argument about destroying the very concept of sexual relations in society altogether as a form of liberation from Capitalism.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I never understood what was so terrible about going in the men's bathroom. Nobody gives anybody any shit in there unless it's like a locker room or something. Normal public bathrooms are not social clubs for men.

I wouldn't kick that poor person out personally but as a matter of principle you're assigned to one, and I'd prefer you use it. If you're not scaring the women it's not even going to be noticed. Lots of women ambiguously look like dudes, sometimes on purpose.

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– RondoOBlongo 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

In a way cutting off your penis is the same as being born with genetic defects...

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– WeedleTLiar 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

It sounds like they're advocating for genetic testing to diagnose transgenderism.

Which is fine by me, lol

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– Gizortnik 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Si. Genetic deformities do not negate the concept of sexual reproduction.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 30 points 2 years ago +30 / -0

So skipping all the “omg animals work differently than humans!”

Let’s start with 5-alphareductase, this is a medical disorder (note that word) that rarely occurs in women and is always due to a syndrome. From JAMA “ It is clear that there are significant differences between sex-specific and gender-specific responses to hormonal manipulations. In men androgen deficiency or deprivation can promote insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, and vascular disease. In contrast, in women androgen excess leads to cardiometabolic disorders. Striking parallels between the metabolic consequences of male hypogonadism and female hyperandrogenism have been recognized.”

For the laymen this means that women, yes women, who can grow a penis (more lump of flesh on the penile region) due to this syndrome STILL HAVE STRIKINGLY DIFFERENT EFFECTS THEN MALES. Odd isn’t it?

The other “examples” she gives are all genetic dead ends due to mutations which cause non functional genitalia anyways, so completely redundant to even acknowledge. Then we get to this “scientific” gem at the end.

and you can be male because you have two X chromosomes, but your heart and brain are male.

Such science, much wow.

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– Erithal 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Scientists have become the priestly caste, with all the corruption and moralizing that implies.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Science Teachers have been like this for a while. Discuss Evolution with them, and watch.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's also, 5-alpha reductase.

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– deleted 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0
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– Kienan 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I like the use of the flatworm, which says that "males can function as females because their penis got chopped off".

I think the 'males pretend to be females to get inside the defenses of actual females so they can have their way with them' is even better.

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– RoulerBleu 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Trans Incel ''lesbians'' entered the chat.

''Let's break that cotton ceiling!''

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– Gizortnik 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

OP knows the difference between sex, gender, assigned at birth, and actual sex. He's just choosing to conflate the terms because he is engaging in sophistry and rhetorical warfare.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– BwonsamdiTheDead 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Clownfish males apparently switch sexes too when their mate dies. Still not proof of Trannies being natural.

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– MLGS 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Didn't read more than 5 words of this, pointless to argue with a 100 who thinks she's a 120, hostility is the only approach worth using with these people.

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– MassivePecorino 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

a 100 who thinks she's a 120

You're being generous on both ends. This is a 90 who thinks she's a 140+. This is Vox Day's "midwit", on display.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

The existence of a bunch of rare intersex conditions means I can molest your kids in the change room

Yeah, no

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– acp_k2win 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

repeal the 19th

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– dagthegnome 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

Humans exhibit some of the most obvious sexual dimorphism of almost any mammalian species. Quite aside from the unscientific approach that is taking a small number of isolated cases of triple chromosomes and applying the same principle to a huge group of individuals who don't have that condition, simple observed reality makes it clear, and has always made it clear, that there are two sexes and a person born into one cannot change to the other.

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– deleted 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0
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– GuestAccount69 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

All of her examples from the animal kingdom are about species adapting to overcome various problems in order to procreate and thrive, whereas every single one of her examples about humans are just mutations that completely disqualify people from participating in the continuation of their genetic line and their species.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

nuh uh! you see, like, birds-

bitch I'm talking about humans

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If OP said "in a sexual species" it would be fair to point out that other animals work differently - not everybody knows that - and then say "of course you're right when it comes to humans."

But I bet OP actually said "in humans" and she's either purposely lying or was too triggered and mistook it for "in a sexual species" so she could rant. Because that's what they do; they can't be honest for a second because their world would crash down.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

To hell with animals. Many plants reproduce sexually. Sometimes you can even get fully one-sexed trees. It's as if this whole male/female sexual dimorphism thing was really helpful and objectively exists in nature.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The only reason he'd even attempt to throw non-humans into the conversation is to attack the concept of biological sex entirely.

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– GiveThemNothing 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

You can be male because you were born female, but you have 5-alpha reductase deficiency and so you grew a penis at age 12.

No, XX genetic females will not grow a penis at age 12 or any other age due to 5-alpha reductase deficiency.

Males (XY) born with this deficiency suffer from genital atrophy at birth and are typically assigned female. A few of them who produce enough testosterone might develop a micro penis at puberty onset.

This is not "a gender variation", it is a genetic abnormality.

You can be female because you have an X and a Y chromosome but your missing the SRY gene, and so you have a female body

Males (XY) born with a defective Y chromosome with a pathogenic SRY (or an SRY deletion) might express external female genitalia, but do not develop functional ovaries.

This is not "a gender variation", it is a genetic abnormality.

You can be male because you have two X chromosomes- but also a Y.

These are males with a genetic pathology known as Klinefelter syndrome.

This is not "a gender variation", it is a genetic abnormality.

You can be female because you have only X chromosome at all.

These are females with a genetic pathology known as Turner syndrome.

This is not "a gender variation", it is a genetic abnormality.

And you can be male because you have two X chromosomes, but your heart and brain are male.

There is no scientifically documented of this claimed "condition".

In conclusion, she cites a list of well known genetic abnormalities that are pathological corner cases that end up supporting the general rule, that there are two genetically determined sexes in healthy humans.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No, XX genetic females will not grow a penis at age 12

Motherfucker just came outta nowhere.

MY DICK IS RANDY ORTON

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– SomeRando 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Grace here is confusing genetic anomaly for function, even then anomalies lean one way or the other so the point is absolutely moot you are still male or female. You are not a fish, you are not a slime mold, you are not a fucking bee.

There are two functions of sex, you don't get to choose "AND VICE EFFING VERSA".

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– IamM 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I like how it ends. "The world is way too weird for that shit, now please let me use the same bathroom as your 5 yr old kid so I can properly teach them my agenda."

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Imagine telling someone like this that it's good to use a toilet and then they come back with "but animals shit wherever they want!"

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– Decrixxx 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

lotta of munbo jumbo, no, kids aren't sexual toys, you are not allowed to touch them.

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– IlhansBrother 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Has eggs? = Female

Has sperm? = Male

(we also include people who are too old/had their balls removed in a boating accident/had their testicles removed due to reddit grooming? Still male)

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

"the existence of chromosomal problems and other species shows that there are more than 2 genders" is a deboonked argument.

You will notice how every one of these conditions has a medical name . Because they are seen as things to treat, not unique expressions of nature. We are all unique but those people are a specific kind of fucked up.

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– Guy_Incognito76 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

As always, if gender is just an ephemeral state of being separate from your physical form, why is surgery EVER needed?

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– Gizortnik 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

it's not

If race is a social construct as much as gender is, why can't transracialism be done?

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– Gizortnik 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

you have 5-alphareductase [sic] deficiency and so you grew a penis at age 12.

No you didn't.

This was easy to throw away. Here's one of the first sources that came up:

Many people with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are assigned female at birth based on their external genitalia. In other cases, affected infants are assigned male at birth based on their external genitalia, often an unusually small penis (micropenis) and the urethra opening on the underside of the penis (hypospadias). Still other affected infants may be assigned either female or male at birth as their external genitalia do not look clearly male or clearly female.

During puberty, an increase in the levels of male sex hormones leads to the development of some secondary sex characteristics, such as increased muscle mass, deepening of the voice, development of pubic hair, and a growth spurt. The penis and scrotum (the sac of skin that holds the testes) may grow larger. People with 5-alpha reductase deficiency do not develop much facial or body hair. Most affected individuals are unable to have biological children (infertile) without assisted reproduction.

So, due to genetic deformities, an infant may have been misidentified. As a result you did not grow a penis from whole cloth, but your micropenis (a deformity) may have enlarged.

This subversive is, once again, attempting to claim that what you are and what you are initially considered are exactly the same thing. In reality, you were a genetically deformed male, misidentified as female.

I'm not going to go onto the rest of this because this is always the same sophistic structural argument in every half-factoid that the OP is trying to hurl at you.

Don't use science to justify your bigotry. The world is way too weird for that shit.

These same people: "All white people are racist. This is scientifically proven."

When you assert anything they don't like with a boundary condition; they claim that each individual edge-case invalidates the boundary entirely. The fact that you have a definition (which are inherently socially constructed because they are language devices) it proves that the fundamental nature you are describing is not nature at all and is fully arbitrary and abstract.

When they assert a boundary condition; it is a universal truism and is unquestionable. It is axiomatically the case in all times, places, cultures, and worlds; and is describing a fundamental understanding of the universe. Each assertion is as objectively true as the gravitational constant.

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– subbookkeeper 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Humans don't have two legs because some people are born without 2 legs or lose them in accidents.

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– nuggetpatrol 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'm also a science teacher.

When someone has to go to this length, on a social media post, that they didn't make evident in their own post, it didn't happen.

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens.

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– alucard13mmfmj 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

If they have legitimate chromosome defects. Then yes, we can sympathize.. but majority of trannies are chasing they trend, are autistic, victims of abuse or they "feel like it".

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– realerfunction 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

we're talking about humans, not that you would know what one of those are.

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– APDSmith 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It would be interesting to learn the approximate percentages of the various disorders quoted.

I get the strong impression that in the name of equality, this person seek to impose an aristocracy comprised of 0.1% of the population upon us all...

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– RoulerBleu 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Dumb broad thinks she's a bug, then a bird, then a fish, then a frog, then a birth defect, then a genetic defect...

Your brain and heart are also female if you have two X ( or one, you just need to lack the Y one ) chromosomes

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– SuurSuomi39_II 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not reading all that, even less when a woman writes it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Even though you are a birdbrain, you still don't have ZW chromosomes.

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– fauxgnaws 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Lots of "yous" too.

"You can have females be XX and males be X (insects)", no they (insects) can have XX/X.

A science teacher who's forgotten how pronouns work.

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