Looking at sexy fictional women never made me think lesser of women or see real women in my day to day life as sex objects. What is currently making me start to hate women is the shit you described.
There's no fictional content in existence that will make me hate women more than the shit they'll put out of themselves, but sexualising OnlyFans thots is stunning and brave.
I can't remember where but I think there was actually a study on this where they found that guys who watch porn etc. are actually more likely to care about women's rights and so on. Now granted, I don't know what their criteria was for that, because we know how simps behave, but I did find that funny because that debunks not only the left wing bullshit on porn but the right wing also. I bring this up because porn is the most blatant example of sexualising women.
We can look at this from another angle as well and the same trend seems to be the case with all the access to hentai etc. lowering sexual crime, something which both sides refuse to acknowledge.
Have you ever cited the reproducibility crisis? You know, in order to debunk some garbage social science “study” that ostensibly proves something you don’t like?
Social science is probably the most corrupt discipline on the planet. If they say up is up, then up is probably down. And this cuts both ways. See: lolbertarians championing decriminalization of drugs based on “muh science” while every city that actually does legalize all the drugs is spiraling into hell.
Yeah, that's why I included the caveat, I will point out if we're going to discuss scientific method. We know for a fact that hard drugs are addictive substances, Libertarians or at least the ones that aren't just leftists in disguise are arguing from a personal freedom perspective. You can't pick and choose my body my choice, otherwise you're an authoritarian and no better than the people declaring covid jabs should be mandatory. Either you're in favour of personal freedom or you're not, you can't dance around specific issues as you like.
Porn for example isn't addictive, and neither are video games, that has been proven properly from what I understand. They're often catalysts for people who have addictive personalities in general and if it wasn't porns and video games they'd get hooked on something else.
When it comes to games of course I'm somebody who can go into a hell of a lot of detail on that because I've studied the psychological aspect of micro-transactions quite a bit with regards to these sorts of arguments.
Because it was profitable to a lot of people to outlaw them. That was why weed was crushed back in the day and alot of other drugs were removed or made illegal when it became a opponent to up and growing pharmaceutical companies.
Look at the hard drugs are still used today, Opium derivatives used in surgeries, Meth prescribed to kids with adhd etc
Amphetamines are not all methamphetamine, and opiates are only a problem because they are prescribed in way too high of an amount for even minor pain. I had minor surgery that was outpatient and didn't really hurt at all, and they prescribed me 75 pills of hydro with a refill when I was like 16.
That doesn't mean we should make recreational drugs legal. Also, if you don't think that pharma companies would immediately start manufacturing the purest hard drugs on the market and making billions if the drugs were legal everywhere, I have a bridge to sell you.
I think you misunderstood my position, I'm not saying that all drugs should be legal I'm just pointing out they were used in many medical forms back in the day and while illegal to the general public they are still used (usually under patent now) in that setting.
Again look at weed, why was it banned? Clearly wasn't reefer madness, because it's quasi legal in most of the country and people aren't losing their minds. And that's saying something especially with the purity and extractions you can get nowadays.
And that's alot of drugs too, why were they put on scheduled lists? What were they competing against? It's interesting to dive into without saying all drugs should be legal, which they shouldn't. I don't need to be able to buy opium on a street corner, but it's a curious question why did the world survive just fine when you could?
It’s worse than that. If I was merely ignoring claims of misogyny when I saw people talking about it, that would still be a step up from what observing the behavior of OF thots, metoo-ers, and adulteresses makes me think.
Sexualization does not make women uncomfortable at all. The top selling female books are overtly sexual. Every female oriented movie has a built guy shirtless in it. Even Barbie was just Ryan gosling shirtless for female tingles.
Sexualization does not make women uncomfortable at all.
Of course not. What makes some of them "uncomfortable" isn't sexualization, it's male sexuality that either exposes their own insecurities or that they can't control to get what they want.
This, the quickest way to dry a woman up is start talking about your insecurities or making yourself weak which is why I find this push to make men "let their feelings be known" is so damaging.
Even then they like it depending on the circumstances. Being able to boast about how many men you've rejected is social power. Or do you think they care if ugly losers boost their instagram followers and simps pay for their only fans?
They only care about sexualization if a dude in his basement is jerking off to anime characters. Apparently though, all the sexualization you see on social media is fine.
It all depends on whether you care about how women feel or not
That's a no, bitch. I don't care how you feel and I don't care about the theoretical women you're conjuring to try and add weight to your shitty argument.
I don't think I've ever seen the coomer be the one to say that sexualizing makes women uncomfortable. This is a weird one, especially since he seems to get off on the idea.
I mean every social setting and group I've ever seen women in exclusively viciously tear each other apart.
It was incredibly illuminating to see the bonds of brotherhood between guys in the military, college, fraternal orgs etc while all the female units and orgs could barely function due to the cat fighting.
My wife has/had zero issues with female being overtly sexualized in games and vastly prefers it to the hogs in modern TV and gaming.
The only thing that's ever made her roll her eyes is female armor in fantasy games, which I mean yeah just say you want a sexy bitch don't try and writers room yourself on that one.
Female armor in fantasy games is a shibboleth. The very concept of "female armor" implies that women are on the battlefield in numbers to justify armor existing in the setting, and not in solely desperation defenses, which means the entire setting is a hilariously ahistorical purely fantastical world from the outset, and insisting on any realism is a joke at best.
Since it is a pure fabrication, its form is a very clear shibboleth: How you "pronounce" your female armor showcases which territory, which faction, you come from. If the armor looks like it was made to please the target audience, it's likely from the faction that cares about their target audience having "fun". If it's armor that looks like it was made to please people who hate gaming and the concept of "fun", they're probably from the faction that hates games and fun.
"If you want to be a slave for all your life, base all your decisions purely on what makes a bunch of strangers feel subjectively more comfortable with their own neuroses. The only way to be a decent human being is becoming as close to a lapdog as possible.
But I'm not a slave so will only listen to complaints within an objective moral framework and will include my own wants and happiness in my decisions about whether or not to tolerate delusional whining."
Sure, lower the boundary of what constitutes "hate" until everyone "hates" women.
Just don't complain when nobody gives a shit about real hate anymore because you've cried "Wolf!" so many times that people tune out.
Looking at sexy fictional women never made me think lesser of women or see real women in my day to day life as sex objects. What is currently making me start to hate women is the shit you described.
There's no fictional content in existence that will make me hate women more than the shit they'll put out of themselves, but sexualising OnlyFans thots is stunning and brave.
I can't remember where but I think there was actually a study on this where they found that guys who watch porn etc. are actually more likely to care about women's rights and so on. Now granted, I don't know what their criteria was for that, because we know how simps behave, but I did find that funny because that debunks not only the left wing bullshit on porn but the right wing also. I bring this up because porn is the most blatant example of sexualising women.
We can look at this from another angle as well and the same trend seems to be the case with all the access to hentai etc. lowering sexual crime, something which both sides refuse to acknowledge.
Have you ever cited the reproducibility crisis? You know, in order to debunk some garbage social science “study” that ostensibly proves something you don’t like?
Social science is probably the most corrupt discipline on the planet. If they say up is up, then up is probably down. And this cuts both ways. See: lolbertarians championing decriminalization of drugs based on “muh science” while every city that actually does legalize all the drugs is spiraling into hell.
Yeah, that's why I included the caveat, I will point out if we're going to discuss scientific method. We know for a fact that hard drugs are addictive substances, Libertarians or at least the ones that aren't just leftists in disguise are arguing from a personal freedom perspective. You can't pick and choose my body my choice, otherwise you're an authoritarian and no better than the people declaring covid jabs should be mandatory. Either you're in favour of personal freedom or you're not, you can't dance around specific issues as you like.
Porn for example isn't addictive, and neither are video games, that has been proven properly from what I understand. They're often catalysts for people who have addictive personalities in general and if it wasn't porns and video games they'd get hooked on something else.
When it comes to games of course I'm somebody who can go into a hell of a lot of detail on that because I've studied the psychological aspect of micro-transactions quite a bit with regards to these sorts of arguments.
Hard drugs used to be legal, wonder why we started outlawing them?
Because it was profitable to a lot of people to outlaw them. That was why weed was crushed back in the day and alot of other drugs were removed or made illegal when it became a opponent to up and growing pharmaceutical companies.
Look at the hard drugs are still used today, Opium derivatives used in surgeries, Meth prescribed to kids with adhd etc
Amphetamines are not all methamphetamine, and opiates are only a problem because they are prescribed in way too high of an amount for even minor pain. I had minor surgery that was outpatient and didn't really hurt at all, and they prescribed me 75 pills of hydro with a refill when I was like 16.
That doesn't mean we should make recreational drugs legal. Also, if you don't think that pharma companies would immediately start manufacturing the purest hard drugs on the market and making billions if the drugs were legal everywhere, I have a bridge to sell you.
I think you misunderstood my position, I'm not saying that all drugs should be legal I'm just pointing out they were used in many medical forms back in the day and while illegal to the general public they are still used (usually under patent now) in that setting.
Again look at weed, why was it banned? Clearly wasn't reefer madness, because it's quasi legal in most of the country and people aren't losing their minds. And that's saying something especially with the purity and extractions you can get nowadays.
And that's alot of drugs too, why were they put on scheduled lists? What were they competing against? It's interesting to dive into without saying all drugs should be legal, which they shouldn't. I don't need to be able to buy opium on a street corner, but it's a curious question why did the world survive just fine when you could?
These people already don't give a shit about real women, otherwise they'd have done something about certain "communities" with their high rape stats
These people "Men. He must mean men!" *doubles down*
It’s worse than that. If I was merely ignoring claims of misogyny when I saw people talking about it, that would still be a step up from what observing the behavior of OF thots, metoo-ers, and adulteresses makes me think.
Sexualization does not make women uncomfortable at all. The top selling female books are overtly sexual. Every female oriented movie has a built guy shirtless in it. Even Barbie was just Ryan gosling shirtless for female tingles.
Chris Hemsworth basically got a career for taking off his shirt.
Of course not. What makes some of them "uncomfortable" isn't sexualization, it's male sexuality that either exposes their own insecurities or that they can't control to get what they want.
This, the quickest way to dry a woman up is start talking about your insecurities or making yourself weak which is why I find this push to make men "let their feelings be known" is so damaging.
Women love to be sexualized. They live for it.
They only don't like it when someone other than Chad does it.
Even then they like it depending on the circumstances. Being able to boast about how many men you've rejected is social power. Or do you think they care if ugly losers boost their instagram followers and simps pay for their only fans?
Older women don't like younger women being sexualized...
They only care about sexualization if a dude in his basement is jerking off to anime characters. Apparently though, all the sexualization you see on social media is fine.
Meanwhile, romance novels continue to have Greek gods on their covers, with a 6 pack on top of an 8 pack.
No one ever complained about the extreme musculature of male comic book heroes, either.
As usual, sexualization is only a one way street.
The point I was about to make
That's a no, bitch. I don't care how you feel and I don't care about the theoretical women you're conjuring to try and add weight to your shitty argument.
It's actually some coomer guy saying that.
I still stand by using the word bitch.
No I won't care about the feelings of a hypocritical venom spitting snake.
I don't think I've ever seen the coomer be the one to say that sexualizing makes women uncomfortable. This is a weird one, especially since he seems to get off on the idea.
Women hate women?
Yes?
I mean every social setting and group I've ever seen women in exclusively viciously tear each other apart.
It was incredibly illuminating to see the bonds of brotherhood between guys in the military, college, fraternal orgs etc while all the female units and orgs could barely function due to the cat fighting.
That explains entirely why in all the games I play the women play the most sexualized characters.
...Wait
Does that mean the innumerable Tumblr shippers are in fact hateful?
i don't care how a tourist feels about my hobby.
if you don't like it, you're free to FUCK OFF and do or play something else.
Harlequin Romance novels still sell well. Fifty Shades series.
Yeah, miss me with the hypocrisy you cunts.
My wife has/had zero issues with female being overtly sexualized in games and vastly prefers it to the hogs in modern TV and gaming.
The only thing that's ever made her roll her eyes is female armor in fantasy games, which I mean yeah just say you want a sexy bitch don't try and writers room yourself on that one.
The gf is the one always watching the shows where people are fucking left and right. I generally prefer violence.
Game of Thrones was such a banger because it had something for everyone. And now they act like making that is some impossible mountain to climb.
Female armor in fantasy games is a shibboleth. The very concept of "female armor" implies that women are on the battlefield in numbers to justify armor existing in the setting, and not in solely desperation defenses, which means the entire setting is a hilariously ahistorical purely fantastical world from the outset, and insisting on any realism is a joke at best.
Since it is a pure fabrication, its form is a very clear shibboleth: How you "pronounce" your female armor showcases which territory, which faction, you come from. If the armor looks like it was made to please the target audience, it's likely from the faction that cares about their target audience having "fun". If it's armor that looks like it was made to please people who hate gaming and the concept of "fun", they're probably from the faction that hates games and fun.
"If you want to be a slave for all your life, base all your decisions purely on what makes a bunch of strangers feel subjectively more comfortable with their own neuroses. The only way to be a decent human being is becoming as close to a lapdog as possible.
But I'm not a slave so will only listen to complaints within an objective moral framework and will include my own wants and happiness in my decisions about whether or not to tolerate delusional whining."
I am uncomfortable with women showing any skin in public. If women cared about not making others uncomfortable they would never show skin in public.
It says more about you (women) then it does about the wanker if he prefers a drawing over genuine article.
https://youtu.be/Kl3H4vMqYNo?t=41
I do both but it's not related.
Women have so many option to choose from nowadays with many games that dont sexualize women. But they still flock to the few ones that do.