During the Bubonic Plague, if there were some elixir that made people immune to it, do you think the local Lord would have had to bribe the peasants to take it?
I don't know and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It could be anything from dystopian mind control drugs to something as mundane as "pharma companies need to sell more product".
Is this just an out of date narrative from the last time around? Honestly, this is how it's supposed to work. The government isn't supposed to be able to force you to do it, or to threaten your livehood or ability to earn a living.
Here they are offering...fries.
The government is supposed to fulfill it's job of encouraging you to do things it believes is in societies best interest, without forcing or coercing you into it.
Granted this isn’t all that bad compared to shit like vaccine passports but still, why the need for a bribe in the first place? If the WuFlu is as bad as the government says, and the vaccine is really as effective as they say, why the need for a bribe? Normally this wouldn’t rustle anyone’s jimmies but considering the controversy around the WuFlu I’d say the governments motives here need to be questioned.
This just seems to jump into "other side is doing it so it's bad" politicking. I'm so tired of this stuff. I love what DeSantis did in Florida and I hate the cult-like response to covid.
But now they're doing what they're supposed to - managing a new disease, offering vacinne, but not forcing people to take it...and you're still unhappy?
This is how things are supposed to work, not the crazy cult-like environment that was being pushed before. You have to provide a little motivation to get some people to do things and I don't think a sandwhich and some fries is excessive government pressure.
I’m not saying using free stuff as an incentive for vaccination is excessive government pressure. However what I am saying is that governments are still pushing way too hard for vaccines for a relatively harmless virus. Maybe things are a bit different in the US but I cannot think of a single instance where my state or federal government tried to motivate people to vaccinate by giving free stuff as a “bribe”. I remember when very well when they discovered the HPV vaccine that could prevent cervical cancer, (a far deadlier ailment) and all they did was run some ads saying “hey people should get this”, the same went for the flu vaccine So to me this whole “bribe” thing is a bid foreign and seems very strange especially in relation to the current pandemic.
They wanted a moderate to lower the political temperature. The only one they could find was very old. He's practically a 1980's republican.
There's been a ton of stuff I've hated about liberals / democrats over the last several years, but I'm tired of the pointless disgust-politicking where every year people get more entrenched in political b.s., every year they get more miserable, every year it gets worse.
I'm sick of this "my identity is my politics" sh**t.
Biden isn’t a moderate and he never was. He’s nothing like the 80’s Republicans he fought so hard against in the actual 80’s. He’s a lifelong grifter who’s had his hand in the public cookie jar for nearly 50 years.
"Moderate" is a word that in this context means "a progressive who knows how to move slow enough to not spook the normies." The grill dads must be pacified while they replace their burgers with mealworms and put section eight housing in the middle of their neighborhood.
Honestly I'm so tired of the "whoever's on the other side is is bad".
I'd ship pelosi off to a foreign country to with contact with the outside world if I could, but Biden has just mostly been drawing a deliberate moderate line. I'd love to see someone younger and more personable doing the same thing as a republican candidate but I'd rather have biden than most of the people actually running for president, based on what he's actually been doing so far.
If this was the Plague where 25% of the population was wiped out and every family had buried at least one close relative, would you need the government to tell you this was something you needed to take seriously? Or would you just know it was serious business because every day it seemed like someone you knew was now dead?
I'm just repeating myself here. You seem to be writing a narrative that applies to things that happened before but having nothing to do with this one.
Offering fries and a burger in exchange for getting vacinnated is the level vaccine encouragement should be at in general. It's not the "you're not allowed to have a job or leave your house" crap that was being pushed before.
Why is "vaccine encouragement" necessary at all for this thing? People who are afraid of it are vaccinated; people who aren't, aren't.
If 6 billion people were dead and entire US cities were wiped out, "vaccine encouragement" wouldn't be necessary because people would be killing each other for a chance to get a couple spots ahead in the line.
Any "narrative" beyond that is something I didn't say.
If the battle you're fighting is "well at least they're only spending billions of taxpayer dollars to vaccinate every American against a virus most won't even know they got instead of throwing the unvaccinated on a desert island" then you are correct that I have no interest in fighting that battle.
It reminds me of something I read. On one episode of Salute Your Shorts, a kids' show about summer camp, the campers were supposed to sneak out of their cabin to steal some candy (something that actually happened at the camps where they were counselors). The execs didn't like that because it was promoting childhood diabetes or something, so the writers had the kids sneak out to steal fresh fruit.
Theft is wrong and if there were any moral storytelling going on like an aesop fable, the moment they try to steal the candy, a drunk counselor would rape them all and wander off into the night.
Add to that, in the past year or so, sone well established drigs have been shown to have a decent affect on the virus and because orange man said they showed promise, the media and the left went into overdrovr trying to discredit them. If it was truly as bad as they say it is, they’d be after anything that works, not anything that someone says works as long as they aren’t orange man
Yea, I don't remember any of the lockdown governments encouraging healthy behavior to strengthen people's immune systems and lessen psychological effects of the lockdown. It was all just stay at home, do nothing and let your health deteriorate.
Really makes it look like it was more about power over the people than about their health.
Because t’s just like when you shop for groceries, the healthy foods are inly affordable if you have alot of money. Basically vaccinating the poor accomplishes whatever sinister plan they have.
the healthy foods are inly affordable if you have alot of money
Come one now, broccoli, carrots, onions, apples- I don't know how a whole chicken costs five dollars and it fills me with a bit of dread if I think about it too long- Healthy food is cheap; "health" food is expensive.
Uh, yeah, right! Have you ever noticed how the chicken or beef that’s on sale is the fatties lt, or how potato chips, pop, candy, cake, other garbage foods and junk like mac and cheese are so much cheaper than healthy foods. When my brother and sister in law were on Isagenix diet and trying to get me started on it they taught me how to shop for the healthy foods to go with it by avoiding the aisles in the grocery store and instead shopping around the outer edges of the store where the healthier foods usually are and it really hit me how much more expensive it all was. I challenge you to try it and compare.
It's not fucking expensive. Most vegetables are practically free. Even a high end chicken is like seven bucks. Fine, a box of mac and cheese is eighty cents but it's noodles and schmoo, of course it is 80 cents. It isn't that healthy foods are expensive, they are cheap, it's that shit food is super cheap because they are carbs and schmoo.
uh, okay. McDonalds burger is a tenth of a pound of beef precooked. So 30-45 cents of beef. 20 cents per bun, maybe. Negligible cost for two pickles three drops of ketchup, three drops of mustard, and a pinch of rehydrated onions. What does a McDonalds burger cost, I assume more than 60-75 cents.
Quarter Pounder, 1 dollar of beef, 40 cents per bun, 20 cents for a piece of cheese, negligible everything else, so sub $2.
But muh "I can't just buy a tenth of a pound of hamburger" uh yeah, that's where meal planning and home economics come in, or just keep being a fucking slave to your own ignorance and laziness.
The whole point of healthy food is it has healthy stuff, things your body needs. Per protein, per vitamin, per fiber, any metric that actually takes that into account is going to come out WILDLY in favor of the healthy foods. And it's not like you're just eating a plate full of plain broccoli; throw some 800 cal/dollar butter on there.
Nope. Broccoli is 1.50ish per pound, and has 15 grams of protein per pound. Ice cream is probably the highest protein food in the "cheap" food category, so for the same 15 grams of protein you'd need 500 grams of ice cream which is like 1.2 liters, which would run probably over 3 dollars. Anything else on that list has negligible protein. Protein is the bottle neck for any diet. Your body can convert fat to carbs and carbs to fat and protein to either of those (if you are starving) but it can't just make protein. Why do you think we pump nitrogen into the soil? Why did the human population explode after the invention of the Haber process. It's all about the protein.
And I'm not saying eat a plain chicken breast with a side of steamed broccoli like a body builder. Make a roast; what does eye of round cost these days? Not much. Throw in some carrots and potatoes. Or cook a pork loin, put some cheese sauce on that broccoli. It's competitive in price with garbage, it's relatively easy, it's how people ate before the age of ham beasts. It just takes a bit of effort and home economics knowledge.
There is an absolute MASSIVE amount of paid for vaccines that are now sitting in warehouses.
Keep an eye out for us to ship them to foreign countries without any sort of reporting, and foreign countries will begin feeling the actual negative effects.
Then the drug companies will declare victory, Biden will declare victory, and 3rd world countries will forcefully inject people while our media begins tracking down and harassing anyone who points out what is going on.
Someone really needs to make a meme about them having such a bad success rate at trying to get their "jab" into people like some autismy guy hitting on women
This right here is the glaring problem, and many try to deflect by calling you an antivaxxer. An unapproved drug might be perfectly safe and efficacious. Or it might have multiple safety issues which require warnings up and down the package insert. The point is that we don't know, and the data isn't available yet.
And for anyone who wants to appeal to expert authority here, I've actually dealt with the FDA application, review, and approval process. So I fully understand the difference between an approved drug product and one under EUA.
Had it back in January for about a week along with my husband, son and mother in law. Mom in law (76 yrs old) had no symptoms, my husband and son had high fever and chills and sweating, I had asthma attack and cough and sinus headache and a feeling of fire in my chest. It went away just as quickly, like a cold/flu mix. No vaccine for me!!
The CDC just came out and said it’s OK not to wear masks now. Meanwhile my state still has a higher infection and death rate than last September when our lives were in mortal danger and masks were necessary to save lives.
Now it’s OK? Oh and hey, yummy French fries if you get your experimental shot that tends to kill people and not prevent people from getting the COVID anyway?!
Dance, you filthy fucking monkeys, dance! What sort of fatty, sugary, glutinous garbage do we have to dangle in front of your disgusting faces to make you accept our injections? Is it beer? Is it donuts?French fries? Tell us and we'll give it to you. You just have to take the drugs first. It's for your own good!
There was a point in my life when I'd inject myself with drugs not approved by the FDA, but I like to think my standards are a bit higher now than when I was an addict.
As a pro-vaccine shill... Things like this is what makes defending and explaining the good of vaccine sooooo much more difficult, and undo all the progress we made against antivaxxers.
Thank you retards, for making my job that much harder with retarded bullshit like this(dancing videos, virtue signaling photos of getting the vaccine, free donuts et al)
Technically, they are still vaccines, like the fly vaccine.
And, despite some death, based on the amount of people being vaccinated and being alright, it is still safe. Of course they are not perfect, and no vaccine is ever 100% effective. Sadly, explaining this is now going to be moot, thanks to the absolute fart sniffing retards who go dancing around and tattooing a bandaid where they got the jab. These morons are a bunch of retards, and is driving people away from vaccines.
The messaging around these vaccines has been tragically bad. "If you're vaccinated you may still spread the disease" should be messaged as "It's expected that you cannot be a spreader but we're waiting for the evidence to come in."
Why does this have to be "pro-vaccine" and "anti-vaccine"? And why bring the antivaxx slur into the discussion?
A vaccine is a risk mitigation. If a person isn't at significant risk of a particular hazard the vaccine is attempting to mitigate against, why should they be made to feel guilty for not utilizing that mitigation?
It's like claiming to be "pro-seatbelt" and complaining that your neighbor isn't wearing a seatbelt on their lawnmower. Sure maybe you could crash into a fence or fall into a ditch when you're out mowing the lawn, but does anyone honestly worry about this?
A vaccine is a risk mitigation. If a person isn't at significant risk of a particular hazard the vaccine is attempting to mitigate against, why should they be made to feel guilty for not utilizing that mitigation?
I don't believe in forcing people to take the vaccine, but the answer to this would be herd immunity. If a substantial portion remains unvaccinated and so far uninfected, that is a threat for people for whom the vaccine is not effective.
It's like claiming to be "pro-seatbelt" and complaining that your neighbor isn't wearing a seatbelt on their lawnmower. Sure maybe you could crash into a fence or fall into a ditch when you're out mowing the lawn, but does anyone honestly worry about this?
Because of moral hazard, that works the other way around. People drive more recklessly when they do have a seatbelt.
If a substantial portion remains unvaccinated and so far uninfected, that is a threat for people for whom the vaccine is not effective
Another solution to the "herd immunity" problem would be to deliberately infect those at low risk of severe illness or death, like we used to do (and in some regions still do) with chickenpox. Or just let people in low-risk populations get it and spread it through normal activity as tends to happen every cold and flu season, while vaccinating people in high-risk populations,
Ultimately a vaccine is useful when the risk of severe illness or death is high, because building up natural herd immunity via infection and recovery presents an unacceptably high risk of injury or death. If the risk is low then the vaccine's usefulness over natural immunity is questionable.
People drive more recklessly when they do have a seatbelt
Perhaps, though then it is a question of whether the decrease in severity of harm due to wearing a seatbelt in an accident makes up for the increased probability of occurrence of getting in an accident. Or whether the severity increased due to increased risk-taking and worse accidents. I don't know the answers to these questions because it's outside the area of my expertise.
Hmm.. I prefer home made burgers and frozen fries myself. A lot less preservatives, bad oils and bullshit propaganda. Health and happiness, no globohomo burgers for me.
vaccine = health = free fries and doughnuts... i honestly despair at how stupid people apparently are. vehicle accidents, heart disease, suicide, obesity, many cancers, THESE ARE KILLING FAR FAR FAR MORE PEOPLE THAN THIS VIRUS EVEN IF WE PRETEND THE VIRUS AND ALL THE CNN NUMBERS ARE COMPLETELY FACTUAL! and yet we promote fat pride along with trillions to combat a non-issue virus.
During the Bubonic Plague, if there were some elixir that made people immune to it, do you think the local Lord would have had to bribe the peasants to take it?
This is the biggest tell that this shit ain't benign.
Right
If you mean the vaccine (as opposed to the force used by the powers that be to force people) by 'this shit', what do you think it is?
I don't know and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It could be anything from dystopian mind control drugs to something as mundane as "pharma companies need to sell more product".
During the Bubonic Plague people ate sheep placenta and mercury to cure disease and killed themselves for it.
The doctors told people that if they would eat mercury, they wouldn't die of the black plague. The doctors were right.
Is this just an out of date narrative from the last time around? Honestly, this is how it's supposed to work. The government isn't supposed to be able to force you to do it, or to threaten your livehood or ability to earn a living.
Here they are offering...fries.
The government is supposed to fulfill it's job of encouraging you to do things it believes is in societies best interest, without forcing or coercing you into it.
Granted this isn’t all that bad compared to shit like vaccine passports but still, why the need for a bribe in the first place? If the WuFlu is as bad as the government says, and the vaccine is really as effective as they say, why the need for a bribe? Normally this wouldn’t rustle anyone’s jimmies but considering the controversy around the WuFlu I’d say the governments motives here need to be questioned.
This just seems to jump into "other side is doing it so it's bad" politicking. I'm so tired of this stuff. I love what DeSantis did in Florida and I hate the cult-like response to covid.
But now they're doing what they're supposed to - managing a new disease, offering vacinne, but not forcing people to take it...and you're still unhappy?
This is how things are supposed to work, not the crazy cult-like environment that was being pushed before. You have to provide a little motivation to get some people to do things and I don't think a sandwhich and some fries is excessive government pressure.
I’m not saying using free stuff as an incentive for vaccination is excessive government pressure. However what I am saying is that governments are still pushing way too hard for vaccines for a relatively harmless virus. Maybe things are a bit different in the US but I cannot think of a single instance where my state or federal government tried to motivate people to vaccinate by giving free stuff as a “bribe”. I remember when very well when they discovered the HPV vaccine that could prevent cervical cancer, (a far deadlier ailment) and all they did was run some ads saying “hey people should get this”, the same went for the flu vaccine So to me this whole “bribe” thing is a bid foreign and seems very strange especially in relation to the current pandemic.
The government isn't supposed to be able to install a senile old pedophile as president but here we are.
They wanted a moderate to lower the political temperature. The only one they could find was very old. He's practically a 1980's republican.
There's been a ton of stuff I've hated about liberals / democrats over the last several years, but I'm tired of the pointless disgust-politicking where every year people get more entrenched in political b.s., every year they get more miserable, every year it gets worse.
I'm sick of this "my identity is my politics" sh**t.
Biden isn’t a moderate and he never was. He’s nothing like the 80’s Republicans he fought so hard against in the actual 80’s. He’s a lifelong grifter who’s had his hand in the public cookie jar for nearly 50 years.
"Moderate" is a word that in this context means "a progressive who knows how to move slow enough to not spook the normies." The grill dads must be pacified while they replace their burgers with mealworms and put section eight housing in the middle of their neighborhood.
Honestly I'm so tired of the "whoever's on the other side is is bad".
I'd ship pelosi off to a foreign country to with contact with the outside world if I could, but Biden has just mostly been drawing a deliberate moderate line. I'd love to see someone younger and more personable doing the same thing as a republican candidate but I'd rather have biden than most of the people actually running for president, based on what he's actually been doing so far.
If this was the Plague where 25% of the population was wiped out and every family had buried at least one close relative, would you need the government to tell you this was something you needed to take seriously? Or would you just know it was serious business because every day it seemed like someone you knew was now dead?
I'm just repeating myself here. You seem to be writing a narrative that applies to things that happened before but having nothing to do with this one.
Offering fries and a burger in exchange for getting vacinnated is the level vaccine encouragement should be at in general. It's not the "you're not allowed to have a job or leave your house" crap that was being pushed before.
Why is "vaccine encouragement" necessary at all for this thing? People who are afraid of it are vaccinated; people who aren't, aren't.
If 6 billion people were dead and entire US cities were wiped out, "vaccine encouragement" wouldn't be necessary because people would be killing each other for a chance to get a couple spots ahead in the line.
Any "narrative" beyond that is something I didn't say.
Once again repeating the narrative for a totally different battle. Ok, good luck.
If the battle you're fighting is "well at least they're only spending billions of taxpayer dollars to vaccinate every American against a virus most won't even know they got instead of throwing the unvaccinated on a desert island" then you are correct that I have no interest in fighting that battle.
Yup, the fact that so many governments have to either bribe or force by law people to take this supposed “cure” is really, really telling.
How come none of these bribes are healthy?
They're allegedly doing that for people's health yet all these bribes are fast food, sweets, beer, etc.
A free kale salad isn't very incentivizing.
It reminds me of something I read. On one episode of Salute Your Shorts, a kids' show about summer camp, the campers were supposed to sneak out of their cabin to steal some candy (something that actually happened at the camps where they were counselors). The execs didn't like that because it was promoting childhood diabetes or something, so the writers had the kids sneak out to steal fresh fruit.
Theft is wrong and if there were any moral storytelling going on like an aesop fable, the moment they try to steal the candy, a drunk counselor would rape them all and wander off into the night.
Thus the moral is "dont steal because its wrong".
They did get punished, but they weren't raped.
Thus the moral is "two wrongs don't make a right".
But Two wongs make a light.
Yep
Add to that, in the past year or so, sone well established drigs have been shown to have a decent affect on the virus and because orange man said they showed promise, the media and the left went into overdrovr trying to discredit them. If it was truly as bad as they say it is, they’d be after anything that works, not anything that someone says works as long as they aren’t orange man
Yea, I don't remember any of the lockdown governments encouraging healthy behavior to strengthen people's immune systems and lessen psychological effects of the lockdown. It was all just stay at home, do nothing and let your health deteriorate.
Really makes it look like it was more about power over the people than about their health.
Because t’s just like when you shop for groceries, the healthy foods are inly affordable if you have alot of money. Basically vaccinating the poor accomplishes whatever sinister plan they have.
Come one now, broccoli, carrots, onions, apples- I don't know how a whole chicken costs five dollars and it fills me with a bit of dread if I think about it too long- Healthy food is cheap; "health" food is expensive.
Uh, yeah, right! Have you ever noticed how the chicken or beef that’s on sale is the fatties lt, or how potato chips, pop, candy, cake, other garbage foods and junk like mac and cheese are so much cheaper than healthy foods. When my brother and sister in law were on Isagenix diet and trying to get me started on it they taught me how to shop for the healthy foods to go with it by avoiding the aisles in the grocery store and instead shopping around the outer edges of the store where the healthier foods usually are and it really hit me how much more expensive it all was. I challenge you to try it and compare.
It's not fucking expensive. Most vegetables are practically free. Even a high end chicken is like seven bucks. Fine, a box of mac and cheese is eighty cents but it's noodles and schmoo, of course it is 80 cents. It isn't that healthy foods are expensive, they are cheap, it's that shit food is super cheap because they are carbs and schmoo.
If you buy tiny portioned out organic produce in posh little containers it's really expensive, but those are traps for rich idiots.
Ok, go buy a burger from Mc Donalds, then go get the meat to grill, the buns, the fixins and sauces and compare the prices
uh, okay. McDonalds burger is a tenth of a pound of beef precooked. So 30-45 cents of beef. 20 cents per bun, maybe. Negligible cost for two pickles three drops of ketchup, three drops of mustard, and a pinch of rehydrated onions. What does a McDonalds burger cost, I assume more than 60-75 cents.
Quarter Pounder, 1 dollar of beef, 40 cents per bun, 20 cents for a piece of cheese, negligible everything else, so sub $2.
But muh "I can't just buy a tenth of a pound of hamburger" uh yeah, that's where meal planning and home economics come in, or just keep being a fucking slave to your own ignorance and laziness.
Calories/dollar is a terrible metric. Just chug canola, dude. Protein/dollar is more sensible.
The whole point of healthy food is it has healthy stuff, things your body needs. Per protein, per vitamin, per fiber, any metric that actually takes that into account is going to come out WILDLY in favor of the healthy foods. And it's not like you're just eating a plate full of plain broccoli; throw some 800 cal/dollar butter on there.
Nope. Broccoli is 1.50ish per pound, and has 15 grams of protein per pound. Ice cream is probably the highest protein food in the "cheap" food category, so for the same 15 grams of protein you'd need 500 grams of ice cream which is like 1.2 liters, which would run probably over 3 dollars. Anything else on that list has negligible protein. Protein is the bottle neck for any diet. Your body can convert fat to carbs and carbs to fat and protein to either of those (if you are starving) but it can't just make protein. Why do you think we pump nitrogen into the soil? Why did the human population explode after the invention of the Haber process. It's all about the protein.
And I'm not saying eat a plain chicken breast with a side of steamed broccoli like a body builder. Make a roast; what does eye of round cost these days? Not much. Throw in some carrots and potatoes. Or cook a pork loin, put some cheese sauce on that broccoli. It's competitive in price with garbage, it's relatively easy, it's how people ate before the age of ham beasts. It just takes a bit of effort and home economics knowledge.
That's just not true, you can buy 2-3 kilos of frozen vegies for the price of a burger.
There is an absolute MASSIVE amount of paid for vaccines that are now sitting in warehouses.
Keep an eye out for us to ship them to foreign countries without any sort of reporting, and foreign countries will begin feeling the actual negative effects.
Then the drug companies will declare victory, Biden will declare victory, and 3rd world countries will forcefully inject people while our media begins tracking down and harassing anyone who points out what is going on.
Biden can already declare victory. Over a hundred million people did what they were told without being critical about it.
Crazy how many people have so easily become thoughtless robotic zombies
Was at the old neighborhood and one of my old neighbors is still on about how it came from a bat in the wet market.
Some of us were like, "You really still believe that and not the virology lab 500 ft away?"
"Show me proof it came from the lab"...
Since we don't live there anymore I was able to hit back with the, "How's the price of your daughters epiens going with Biden in office?"
So the majority didn't?
It would be entertaining if it wasn't absolutely mortifying.
Someone really needs to make a meme about them having such a bad success rate at trying to get their "jab" into people like some autismy guy hitting on women
What’s so scary is how many people, even supposedly smart people are suckering into this trash and EVIL
This right here is the glaring problem, and many try to deflect by calling you an antivaxxer. An unapproved drug might be perfectly safe and efficacious. Or it might have multiple safety issues which require warnings up and down the package insert. The point is that we don't know, and the data isn't available yet.
And for anyone who wants to appeal to expert authority here, I've actually dealt with the FDA application, review, and approval process. So I fully understand the difference between an approved drug product and one under EUA.
And has no semblance of even a hint of aborted baby tissue in or used in it
Had it back in January for about a week along with my husband, son and mother in law. Mom in law (76 yrs old) had no symptoms, my husband and son had high fever and chills and sweating, I had asthma attack and cough and sinus headache and a feeling of fire in my chest. It went away just as quickly, like a cold/flu mix. No vaccine for me!!
Once again, they think you're fucking stupid.
This is the government equivalent of a Nigerian Prince Scam.
It's easy to weed out the lowest common denominator by seeing who's stuffing their face with Covid fries.
Or seeing anyone who supports a $25 minimum wage.
Or anyone who calls police racists thugs, but begs the government to regulate firearms out of private citizens' hands.
Sadly we haven't given them much reason to believe otherwise...
Good lord, this shit makes me want to give my vaccine back.
My husbands aunt who was 74 and in perfect health passed away four days after getting her second dose.
Who are these dumbasses in charge?!
The CDC just came out and said it’s OK not to wear masks now. Meanwhile my state still has a higher infection and death rate than last September when our lives were in mortal danger and masks were necessary to save lives.
Now it’s OK? Oh and hey, yummy French fries if you get your experimental shot that tends to kill people and not prevent people from getting the COVID anyway?!
What kind of BS is this?!
They want to complete their mass genocide while they still remain in power
Even though it will likely kill or sterilize you
A disease so deadly, that people need to be bribed into taking the vaccine....
He's basically calling New Yorkers fat fucking pigs.
There was a point in my life when I'd inject myself with drugs not approved by the FDA, but I like to think my standards are a bit higher now than when I was an addict.
As a pro-vaccine shill... Things like this is what makes defending and explaining the good of vaccine sooooo much more difficult, and undo all the progress we made against antivaxxers.
Thank you retards, for making my job that much harder with retarded bullshit like this(dancing videos, virtue signaling photos of getting the vaccine, free donuts et al)
Real vaccines, or these Covid "vaccines"?
Technically, they are still vaccines, like the fly vaccine.
And, despite some death, based on the amount of people being vaccinated and being alright, it is still safe. Of course they are not perfect, and no vaccine is ever 100% effective. Sadly, explaining this is now going to be moot, thanks to the absolute fart sniffing retards who go dancing around and tattooing a bandaid where they got the jab. These morons are a bunch of retards, and is driving people away from vaccines.
Explain.
Well the Covid vaccines don't prevent you from being infected by the virus or from spreading the virus.
They don't?
No, they don’t!
The messaging around these vaccines has been tragically bad. "If you're vaccinated you may still spread the disease" should be messaged as "It's expected that you cannot be a spreader but we're waiting for the evidence to come in."
If they're not sure what it does, they don't have any business trying to force it on people.
Nope.
Why does this have to be "pro-vaccine" and "anti-vaccine"? And why bring the antivaxx slur into the discussion?
A vaccine is a risk mitigation. If a person isn't at significant risk of a particular hazard the vaccine is attempting to mitigate against, why should they be made to feel guilty for not utilizing that mitigation?
It's like claiming to be "pro-seatbelt" and complaining that your neighbor isn't wearing a seatbelt on their lawnmower. Sure maybe you could crash into a fence or fall into a ditch when you're out mowing the lawn, but does anyone honestly worry about this?
I don't believe in forcing people to take the vaccine, but the answer to this would be herd immunity. If a substantial portion remains unvaccinated and so far uninfected, that is a threat for people for whom the vaccine is not effective.
Because of moral hazard, that works the other way around. People drive more recklessly when they do have a seatbelt.
Another solution to the "herd immunity" problem would be to deliberately infect those at low risk of severe illness or death, like we used to do (and in some regions still do) with chickenpox. Or just let people in low-risk populations get it and spread it through normal activity as tends to happen every cold and flu season, while vaccinating people in high-risk populations,
Ultimately a vaccine is useful when the risk of severe illness or death is high, because building up natural herd immunity via infection and recovery presents an unacceptably high risk of injury or death. If the risk is low then the vaccine's usefulness over natural immunity is questionable.
Perhaps, though then it is a question of whether the decrease in severity of harm due to wearing a seatbelt in an accident makes up for the increased probability of occurrence of getting in an accident. Or whether the severity increased due to increased risk-taking and worse accidents. I don't know the answers to these questions because it's outside the area of my expertise.
I've commented elsewhere a lot. Usually against some imbecile antisemite.
It just depends if I have the attention span on commenting on something or not.
It speaks volumes that politicians need to entice people to do stuff through food like some sort of sled animals.
We are abandoned.
Hmm.. I prefer home made burgers and frozen fries myself. A lot less preservatives, bad oils and bullshit propaganda. Health and happiness, no globohomo burgers for me.
vaccine = health = free fries and doughnuts... i honestly despair at how stupid people apparently are. vehicle accidents, heart disease, suicide, obesity, many cancers, THESE ARE KILLING FAR FAR FAR MORE PEOPLE THAN THIS VIRUS EVEN IF WE PRETEND THE VIRUS AND ALL THE CNN NUMBERS ARE COMPLETELY FACTUAL! and yet we promote fat pride along with trillions to combat a non-issue virus.
Is it just fries? Hasn't Shake Shack ALWAYS given out free fries?
????Seriously!?!?!? Sure let’s go help depopulate the world by getting a sterilizing vaccine. Ugggggh
Ironic considering the effect obesity has on covid survival