During the Bubonic Plague, if there were some elixir that made people immune to it, do you think the local Lord would have had to bribe the peasants to take it?
I don't know and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It could be anything from dystopian mind control drugs to something as mundane as "pharma companies need to sell more product".
Is this just an out of date narrative from the last time around? Honestly, this is how it's supposed to work. The government isn't supposed to be able to force you to do it, or to threaten your livehood or ability to earn a living.
Here they are offering...fries.
The government is supposed to fulfill it's job of encouraging you to do things it believes is in societies best interest, without forcing or coercing you into it.
Granted this isn’t all that bad compared to shit like vaccine passports but still, why the need for a bribe in the first place? If the WuFlu is as bad as the government says, and the vaccine is really as effective as they say, why the need for a bribe? Normally this wouldn’t rustle anyone’s jimmies but considering the controversy around the WuFlu I’d say the governments motives here need to be questioned.
This just seems to jump into "other side is doing it so it's bad" politicking. I'm so tired of this stuff. I love what DeSantis did in Florida and I hate the cult-like response to covid.
But now they're doing what they're supposed to - managing a new disease, offering vacinne, but not forcing people to take it...and you're still unhappy?
This is how things are supposed to work, not the crazy cult-like environment that was being pushed before. You have to provide a little motivation to get some people to do things and I don't think a sandwhich and some fries is excessive government pressure.
I’m not saying using free stuff as an incentive for vaccination is excessive government pressure. However what I am saying is that governments are still pushing way too hard for vaccines for a relatively harmless virus. Maybe things are a bit different in the US but I cannot think of a single instance where my state or federal government tried to motivate people to vaccinate by giving free stuff as a “bribe”. I remember when very well when they discovered the HPV vaccine that could prevent cervical cancer, (a far deadlier ailment) and all they did was run some ads saying “hey people should get this”, the same went for the flu vaccine So to me this whole “bribe” thing is a bid foreign and seems very strange especially in relation to the current pandemic.
They wanted a moderate to lower the political temperature. The only one they could find was very old. He's practically a 1980's republican.
There's been a ton of stuff I've hated about liberals / democrats over the last several years, but I'm tired of the pointless disgust-politicking where every year people get more entrenched in political b.s., every year they get more miserable, every year it gets worse.
I'm sick of this "my identity is my politics" sh**t.
Biden isn’t a moderate and he never was. He’s nothing like the 80’s Republicans he fought so hard against in the actual 80’s. He’s a lifelong grifter who’s had his hand in the public cookie jar for nearly 50 years.
If this was the Plague where 25% of the population was wiped out and every family had buried at least one close relative, would you need the government to tell you this was something you needed to take seriously? Or would you just know it was serious business because every day it seemed like someone you knew was now dead?
I'm just repeating myself here. You seem to be writing a narrative that applies to things that happened before but having nothing to do with this one.
Offering fries and a burger in exchange for getting vacinnated is the level vaccine encouragement should be at in general. It's not the "you're not allowed to have a job or leave your house" crap that was being pushed before.
Why is "vaccine encouragement" necessary at all for this thing? People who are afraid of it are vaccinated; people who aren't, aren't.
If 6 billion people were dead and entire US cities were wiped out, "vaccine encouragement" wouldn't be necessary because people would be killing each other for a chance to get a couple spots ahead in the line.
Any "narrative" beyond that is something I didn't say.
During the Bubonic Plague, if there were some elixir that made people immune to it, do you think the local Lord would have had to bribe the peasants to take it?
This is the biggest tell that this shit ain't benign.
Right
If you mean the vaccine (as opposed to the force used by the powers that be to force people) by 'this shit', what do you think it is?
I don't know and I'm not going to pretend that I do. It could be anything from dystopian mind control drugs to something as mundane as "pharma companies need to sell more product".
During the Bubonic Plague people ate sheep placenta and mercury to cure disease and killed themselves for it.
The doctors told people that if they would eat mercury, they wouldn't die of the black plague. The doctors were right.
Is this just an out of date narrative from the last time around? Honestly, this is how it's supposed to work. The government isn't supposed to be able to force you to do it, or to threaten your livehood or ability to earn a living.
Here they are offering...fries.
The government is supposed to fulfill it's job of encouraging you to do things it believes is in societies best interest, without forcing or coercing you into it.
Granted this isn’t all that bad compared to shit like vaccine passports but still, why the need for a bribe in the first place? If the WuFlu is as bad as the government says, and the vaccine is really as effective as they say, why the need for a bribe? Normally this wouldn’t rustle anyone’s jimmies but considering the controversy around the WuFlu I’d say the governments motives here need to be questioned.
This just seems to jump into "other side is doing it so it's bad" politicking. I'm so tired of this stuff. I love what DeSantis did in Florida and I hate the cult-like response to covid.
But now they're doing what they're supposed to - managing a new disease, offering vacinne, but not forcing people to take it...and you're still unhappy?
This is how things are supposed to work, not the crazy cult-like environment that was being pushed before. You have to provide a little motivation to get some people to do things and I don't think a sandwhich and some fries is excessive government pressure.
I’m not saying using free stuff as an incentive for vaccination is excessive government pressure. However what I am saying is that governments are still pushing way too hard for vaccines for a relatively harmless virus. Maybe things are a bit different in the US but I cannot think of a single instance where my state or federal government tried to motivate people to vaccinate by giving free stuff as a “bribe”. I remember when very well when they discovered the HPV vaccine that could prevent cervical cancer, (a far deadlier ailment) and all they did was run some ads saying “hey people should get this”, the same went for the flu vaccine So to me this whole “bribe” thing is a bid foreign and seems very strange especially in relation to the current pandemic.
The government isn't supposed to be able to install a senile old pedophile as president but here we are.
They wanted a moderate to lower the political temperature. The only one they could find was very old. He's practically a 1980's republican.
There's been a ton of stuff I've hated about liberals / democrats over the last several years, but I'm tired of the pointless disgust-politicking where every year people get more entrenched in political b.s., every year they get more miserable, every year it gets worse.
I'm sick of this "my identity is my politics" sh**t.
Biden isn’t a moderate and he never was. He’s nothing like the 80’s Republicans he fought so hard against in the actual 80’s. He’s a lifelong grifter who’s had his hand in the public cookie jar for nearly 50 years.
If this was the Plague where 25% of the population was wiped out and every family had buried at least one close relative, would you need the government to tell you this was something you needed to take seriously? Or would you just know it was serious business because every day it seemed like someone you knew was now dead?
I'm just repeating myself here. You seem to be writing a narrative that applies to things that happened before but having nothing to do with this one.
Offering fries and a burger in exchange for getting vacinnated is the level vaccine encouragement should be at in general. It's not the "you're not allowed to have a job or leave your house" crap that was being pushed before.
Why is "vaccine encouragement" necessary at all for this thing? People who are afraid of it are vaccinated; people who aren't, aren't.
If 6 billion people were dead and entire US cities were wiped out, "vaccine encouragement" wouldn't be necessary because people would be killing each other for a chance to get a couple spots ahead in the line.
Any "narrative" beyond that is something I didn't say.
Yup, the fact that so many governments have to either bribe or force by law people to take this supposed “cure” is really, really telling.