Japanese man explains his perspective on why Japan's society is declining
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This is definitely the case from what I know. You can thank the Allies for making their workplaces more "diverse" and enshrining equal rights into their constitution. When men see that society is no longer working for their benefit and instead at their expense, they would check out of society and not engage with it.
Another country that the tribe "influenced" for the worse.
Japan got nuked twice and then they pushed feminism on the survivors.
And people think the Allies were heroes?
The firebombing of Tokyo and Dresden are two things you won't hear much about either, those are some real atrocities.
The USA government defeats a country through warfare and then forces them to accept "universal goods" like equal rights and democracy against their will. I wonder how many people would call that "cultural imperialism" unless they supported those themselves.
Yeah that’s called losing a war. Welcome to the losing side since warfare began.
Fair enough, but we also don't hear about the imperial Japanese doing experimental surgery on live, unanesthetized Okinawans either.
Imperial Japan was fucking monstrous. There are good reasons that their neighbors kind of hate them. And I say that as someone who's a big fan of contemporary Japan.
THAT was the point, to neuter the Japanese as much as possible because they fought so viciously and to the last when possible. They STILL don't have a full military because Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution not only forbids the use of force as a means to settling international disputes but also forbids Japan from maintaining an army, navy or air force.....Guess who wrote that constitution, General MacArthur.
Beate Sirota Gordon of the tribe wrote in the feminist part of the constitution and (((they))) still brag about it.
Ain't no ally of mine.
Well the NWO can't just fuck the USA. Japan, Poland, Hungary. Compliance and/or invasions will happen.
Similar to the West, except the West is worse in some respects. At the very least Japan is more nationalistic, so that when they work in the cog, they aren’t working for the benefit of Tyrone or Juan... still the machine is aimless in Japan and most Asian countries, so there is no benefit to being a cog.
Check out their suicide rate, there's is almost on par with the US with 207.1 million less people than the US....that's NOT a good sign and of course men are the majority.
To be fair, the Japanese police tends to rule homicides as suicides if they don't have a definitive perp. Something about not tarnishing their violent crime rate. It's not all sunshine and anime in the Land of the Rising Sun.
Face culture at its finest.
Not so different from west when you think about it. Perhaps Islam is right about women? I don't want it to be, but certain sub set of women are making it hard.
Man you have no idea how much of a red pill moment it's been for me over the last few years learning that centuries upon centuries of built-up tradition actually developed for a reason and maybe they shouldn't just be tossed out just because. Really more a suppository than a pill tbh.
I'd rank it as even greater than the pill I got about what women really like. That sounds really cringe I know, but raised by a single mom so you know how it goes.
When in history were women NOT entitled whores again? Even kings and pharaohs got cucked though they had literally everything she could ever want within their fingertips. Even remember a certain war that happened because a an idiot fell in love with pussy and simped her from a Spartan king.....then died horribly for it while she lived happily with her cuck husband until they died of old age.
If we're going to do this it'd probably be better to cite, idk, Sampson and Delilah just off the top of my head. When Eve ate the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil Adam was right there with her when the serpent got her to eat the fruit and he didn't get the serpent to gtfo nor did he tell Eve not to eat it and, even worse, he ate it himself when God had explicitly told them both not to eat the fruit!
He screwed up just as bad as Eve so that really isn't a good section to use here.
This also seems to be the case for other "wealthy" Asian countries. Here are the more prominent Asian countries based on fertility rate in 2018:
Interesting things to note:
South Korea is actually worse off than Japan due to cultural reasons. And the stats show: it is the #1 in plastic surgeries and #2 in suicide rates.
Thailand's fertility rate is surprisingly low for a 3rd world country.
Promiscuity and feminism will be the decline for both the West and the East.
rip my dream of settling down in an Asian country
Reference:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=Z4&most_recent_value_desc=false https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country
Can confirm SK is waaaaay worse than Japan, they've basically gave up on all traditionalism period while Japan still keeps it for the cultural reasons. Like going to a Shinto or Buddhist temple to pray for various things from a good pregnancy to getting a job or even proper etiquette from centuries ago like bowing and wearing traditional clothing like Yukata or using the same exact tools for fixing damage in historical building that were used in its construction.......Though western influence has seeped in and jogger music especially has had a negative effect through gangsta (funniest shit in the world is a Japanese teen thinking they're hard and hood) and thot culture.
Guaranteed an absolute dictatorship will go full handmaids tale before they tolerate demographic decline.
what emancipation? i'm a tax-positive, where are the women who can say the same?
The pill and IVF are two big causes. Allows them to "remain unattached" for so long that when even nature says "hey you ducked around for too long", science can say "it's cool bruh, we gotchu".
If men had the same option of say based surrogate mothers, or vat grown babies, I guarantee men would be out of relationships far more. (not say ng this is better, both aspects ruin the inter human nature)
They claim its "just easier" to harvest and bank sperm than it is eggs, but this is just another gynocentric aspect of modern biological science.
It's also how third world nations can also have dying birth rates, it won't all be down to men choosing to opt out, but also a combination of antipregnancy aids and peak population already thanks to longer human life.
So we have large populations in small areas, delayed pregnancies, extended lives (and of those extended lives, many are unproductive/pointless regards birth but still consume the same resources). Birth rates fall because of science.
Women are good for a lot more than just babies, just as men aren't good at absolutely everything humans can do.
The male nature is competitive, aggressive, driven, and systemizing. It views the world in terms of its component parts. Resources, threats, goals, and tasks.
The female nature other hand is all about cooperation, nurturing, coalition building, and emotional validation. It views the world in terms of the connections between people, emotions and communication, and ensuring needs are met on more than just an immediate tangible level.
Both of these are necessary for a healthy society, and for a healthy individual. An insufficency or excess of either is dysfunctional.
You see this with children. Mothers stand between their children and new people or things, men stand behind them once it's established there's no threat. The cliche mother says "don't hang from the monkeybars like that, it's too high". The cliche father says "If you fall that's going to hurt".
In a healthy balance the mother knows to give her children warnings but allow them to make their own mistakes, and the father knows when they fall to first offer comfort and security and then when they calm down tell them they're a dumbass and know better for next time. In an unhealthy balance the mother smothers her child, and the father callously tells them to get over it.
He's not right in the head.
Suicide yourself already you demented faggot.
It's also what you advocate for so hurry the fuck up and do it.
This is some scary shit even if it's only half as bad as he says
"If only you knew how bad things really are..."
The myth of the Japanese as uniquely plagued by low fertility ( floating around ~ 1.4 in the recent years ) is really weird.
White peoples have lower fertility ( typically 1.2, but some have close to 2 ), and so do the Taiwanese, South Koreans ( ~1, so each generation is now only half the size of the current fertile one ), etc.
It's more of a bludgeon used by globalists irritated by Japan's resistance to mass migration than such a massive crisis for them.
Same for Japanese suicide rates : Similar to suicide rates of White peoples, but uniquely singled-out as if it was such a uniquely Japanese problem.
Oh, get off, they ARE having babies, but you've been brainwashed to think it's "not enough".
Well, the Japanese live on fucking islands. Instinct tells you to breed less the more crowded you are, and the Japs are fucking so crowded, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO CAME UP WITH THE PODS. All the cocksucking human supremacists whining for "more babbies" are the very cunts wanting to feed you bugs and shove you into JAPANESE pods.
WHY SHOULD THEY WANT TO BREED LIKE RATS? EVEN RABBITS REGULATE THEIR OWN NUMBERS BY REABSORBING KITS IN THE WOMB WHEN THE FEMALES FEEL TOO CROWDED. (They don't need you to decide "too many" for them, fucking supremacist cunt.) Fucking assholes want humans to be the mindless breeders rabbits aren't!
That's the kind of world young Gen-Xers were promised, but the economists went and smashed it all in the late 1980s. ie, as soon as they were selling Coca-Cola and Raunchy Ronnie's in China and India (and now have vending machines in Antarctica, I'm sure), there are no more new markets to open, so they want a world of nothing but humans that consoom like locusts.
The problem is that the entire world's economy is based on a pyramid scheme. Each generation pays to take care of the ever-growing population of non-working elderly who nowadays live longer than ever with more health problems than ever.
Modern society already has "managed decline", almost every single culture on earth naturally winds up at or below replacement level when it reaches a post-industrial stage in economic development.
There's just no way to handle that without completely changing the entire economic system to something like UBI, or alternatively we discover some kind of limitless cheap energy.
Found the commie!
How about you fuck off with being too stupid to count? I literally just explained to you in plain english why each generation needs to be larger than the prior one and pay more into the system.
You physically can not keep the current retirement system going without that, and if you go 100% privatized and abolish social security entirely you just make the problem even worse because then people need to have 10 kids to support them in their old age again.
Nobody's talking about seizing the means of production, we're talking about fucking basic math.
So what you're saying here is not only can you not count, but you can't read either:
I literally went so far as to place "UBI" as a solution on the same level as discovering limitless cheap energy. That's literally saying "The only way this is going to work is with fucking magic".
You should learn how to count and how to read before calling people retards and commies.
You know, I wonder if there is something to that, including with the "Low birth rate" in the West. I always hear about how no one in the US is having kids, but most of the people I work with have children, and my smaller town (about 50K people) is having to build a new elementary school because the current system is overloaded. So that news clearly never made it here.
But it wouldnt surprise me if that narrative exist because no one in the cities is having children, and since people in media never leave their mega-cities and go out in the countryside, they are bubbled up like usual and not getting a realistic picture of the world (like usual).
Shinkansen? More like Chikansen, amirite? Eh? Eh?
Okay, Japanese linguistics puns about specific cultural problems probably don't fly over well in most audiences.
But yeah, I've seen stories like this for over a decade, it isn't "new" to Japan, but normies are remarkably slow to learn things.
Don't worry, I laughed. I was accidentally using the word "shinkansen" instead of "kaishakunin" for a while until I realized my mistake, so I have it handy in my memory, plus my old night manager at an old job used to joke about "chikan," and do a weird hand motion. I was made to understand this joke.
Bullet point 2 sounds an awful lot like an r/incel post and he's just mad he's not getting laid. 3 Has been every woman ever and we know this through scientific research(Hypergamy), historical events, archeological findings and religious texts, they're biologically encoded find the Chad for the best chance of survival and healthy kids plus are slaves to their hormonal emotions. Antony, Ceaser and Cleopatra, Napoleon and Napoleon and Josephine, Catherine the Great and Grigory Potemkin and the war launched by the king of simps Menelaus raging over Helen leading to the trojan war.....Also what western woman wants to pool resources? I've NEVER dated a woman who didn't want my shit (because we're a couple and what yours in mine and mine is still mine!) or to keep each others shit separate, guys either met a unicorn or she wasn't an American woman.
Should he not be? Should be happy he can support all these women through the power of the state and getting nothing out of it?
Yeah, and then we invented marriage and shamed women for their blatant promiscuity. Men had a reason to put an effort in and society got better for it. Now we're back at square one, men check out. Women will, of course not notice, sharing the top 10% between them, until society crumbles under their feet.
Check this little exchange out when i called him out on the other thread . He is such an obvious Glowie
–crayet-- Literally all your sources are from sjw leftist globalist sites with an agenda that also like to claim the west is not progressive enough or depict the west as extreme racists and sexists and like ernshite said are the Anita types who would say "feminism is dismissed in American culture and video games" (why are you even on these sites anyway？) and you expect us to take them seriously about Japan? (BTW the girl made a petition to out the Olympics guy and 150k signed and govt figures, media and freakin toyota put pressure on him as well）and there has already been lot of other signs as well for a while already that the writing is on the wall. Japan is not in a good situation ，getting invaded and subverted by globalists, and is quickly falling down the same route as the west
–Johan_Liebert-- ENGLISH retard, unless your smartass can read hiragana, kanji or katakana. Then your black pilled ass would still bitch and complain because they aren't acting like a right wing version of Soviet Russia with Stalin at the helm.
–crayet-- How about you stop swearing at people just cause people point out your ridiculousness of using leftist sjw globalist sites with an agenda, to try to prove a point (and like i said why are you on these sites? why are all the sources you are using leftist sjw globalist sites?), and it seems more like you are trying to make people complacent than anything, . There has always been plenty of "dont worry, nothing is wrong, so relax and do nothing" sabotagers like you ." bitch and complain because they aren't acting like a right wing version of Soviet Russia with Stalin at the helm" really? first you are constantly on sjw leftist globalist news sites(and apparently like to take them seriously and for their word) and now this? the more you talk the more you seem like a crypto leftist sabotager.
–Johan_Liebert-- suck my 金玉, black pilled bed wetter.
–crayet-- Get lost crypto commie and you really are a stereotype arent you?
–Johan_Liebert-- Spoken like a true crypto Judenrat. Do humanity a favor and run head first into on coming traffic because you're a worthless human being and are so black pilled that you'll become a government lap dog for your own survival, coward.
–crayet-- lol says the guy with a Jewish name.First you use globalist sjw sources, get angry when people mention it , then you say " bitch and complain because they aren't acting like a right wing version of Soviet Russia with Stalin at the helm", and then next you try a random over the top Jewish slur (despite having zero history of calling them out normally) which also contradicts your earlier comment and behavior, as calling out the Jews is associated with auth right that you were talking against, and next you call people incels on the other thread. You are becoming a more and more obvious shill .Fucking obvious as fuck , Glowie.
yup literally all his sources were globalist leftist sjw sites and when people mentioned it he just gets mad at people and now this plus other things he's also said on the other thread as well. . I honestly think he's a crypto leftist and shill too.
He's supporting the elderly more than anyone else. Japan's welfare state has a non-typical conservative regime. Similar to other conservative countries, Japan has an occupational segmented social insurance system. Pre-war Japan once adopted a Prussian-style social policy. Japan also borrowed ideas of pensions and health from the Prussian system. In addition, Japan's welfare state embodies familialism, whereby families rather than the government will provide the social safety net. The the Japanese government provided social care programs to the elderly and children, along with the policy that promoted general equality starting heavily in the 90s and ramping up hard in the mid 2000s (UN bullshit probably). While in 2016, there were 1.4 million single parent households in the country. Nearly 90%, or 1.2 million, were led by mothers and single mothers in Japan live in a culture that makes them particularly vulnerable to poverty and social isolation. Japanese society is very conservative and it is considered taboo to be a single parent AND The pill is not covered by Japanese Health Insurance, and the cost is approximately 3,000 yen per month. Some doctors run blood tests or do a pap smear test to check if you are fit for the pill use and control such as the morning after pill are available only through visitation of a clinic and not at drugstores. Oral contraceptives, which were legalized in 1999, are also not covered by Japanese Health Insurance and cost 3-5 thousand yen a month.....being a whore isn't cheap apparently, socially or financially.
So, if I were to summarize all this, it would be: Those poor women, being single mothers through no fault of their own. Won't anyone think of the women.
What I don't see in there is: Why are they single. What about the children? What about the fathers?
So? I have a revolutionary idea. Don't fuck people you are not willing and prepared to have children with when you are not able to afford fucking contraceptives.
Point i was making
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The point you are making is that everyone is to blame but women themselves. Society, the elderly, the UN, men, whatever. As long as no one blames the poor women.
I'm sure that's not the point you wanted to make. But that was the point you made with your little rant.
That's NOT the point i was making. The point i WAS making is that your "he pays for them" (paraphrase) comment was factually incorrect, the elderly and healthcare are what the majority of his money goes to statistically
Strange. Then why was half of your post some drivel about how poor japanese women are and how much single mothers suffer?
Also: I am willing to bet he's still paying for japanese women. Him maybe also paying (maybe more) for the elderly does not change that fact. Women tend to take out more of the system than they put in. Important: I am not saying it's wrong for them to do so.
That's roughly $30 USD.
Japan isn't a poor country, and Japanese women aren't poor. They can afford their own goddamn birth control.
They also don't make as much as western countries, According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare, in 2019, the average yearly salary of a Japanese worker was 3,077,000 yen*. This comes out to be about 256,416 yen per month. In terms of US dollars (using the average exchange rate for 2019) that's $28,227 per year, or $2,352 a month.
Japan is a collectivist nation, their entire society only works if everyone is working like ants in a colony. That makes it far more incompatible with women's hypergamous nature. From the sounds of things the women have gone full individualistic, while the men have remained collectivistic which is not a pairup that works.
They kinda fucked themselves with their work ethic too, it's hard to meet women and get married when you work 80hrs a week and are obligated to go drink with your boss when he decides to go out to avoid his dragon lady of a wife or you'll be seen as anti-social and looked down on or passed up for promotion.
That's why many collectivist nations have arranged marriages, parents introducing you to girls, and high value on highschool relationships.
There were solutions to these problems traditionally. The modernizing of the world removed them without addressing the other half of the equations. Which is a problem with "women's lib" the world over.
So is this why a yuge slice of anime is all high school romance based?
From my understanding unironically yes. After high school you are expected to crack down on career mode and be already on the fast track to being married.
Remember, the Japanese have a term (Christmas Cake) entirely to denote that woman over 25 are completely unwanted because they are too old. That means if you aren't making long term choices in high school for a mate you won't make it.
So high school is when you still have options and free time to play around and "find love" because the moment its over you are all business.
Hmm that makes sense. I’ve always wondered why this is the case but I’ve never seen any “proof” on why it is
Its the last time they were truly free and allowed to have fun, I understand their obsession with reliving it.
They did/do have that, called Miai. From what I've read on the subject it primarily died out in the 18th century (Still the Edo period with the Tokugawa shogunate running Japan and the Sakoku isolation policy still in effect) with only 6ish % of marriages being Miai in 2005.
You got lucky and what's Heartiste?
FIRST thing I thought of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA93-fUdgMU
For your future usage: https://i.imgur.com/ufrsooo.jpg
Whining about not getting laid when you look like DragonLord or your mom drank heavily while pregnant isn't a woman problem, it's a you problem, so shut up and hit the gym, fatty. They have a term there called Herbivore men or grass-eater men to describe young men who express little interest in being assertive in relationships with women or getting married aka weak men, women don't like weak men. Which is why they fuck their chads or foreigner men who are more assertive and actually have a spine, goals and marriage orientated....fucking hikikomori's and NEET's whining they can't get laid when they wander aimlessly in life, marry their jobs or don't even try.
Here is my question.
Why is it that everyone who considers society to be against them like women or black people or whoever allowed to call out society and demand changes but when men do it, they are derided and called incels?
Why do Men have to punish themselves to cater to women and society? Tell me why when society never makes these same demands or women and just bends over for them.
Society says that work hard and pull yourself by your bootstraps is bullshit but only when it comes to certain groups. Men still have to adhere to this.
Either you're stuck in a nostalgic world that no longer exists and likely never did or you attract the wrong attention for some reason. Broken people fall into 3 categories, the one who has accepted their lot in life, the who's bitter and angry from whatever caused the damage so they seek to damage others and the one who thinks someone else can fix them when the reality is, only they can fix themselves. And there's ALOT of broken people out there so it metastasizes when broken people come into contact with each other and makes them both worse....Lot of undiagnosed mentally ill people too, dated a chick who had BPD and tried to stab me during an episode, turns out she was went undiagnosed for 30 years because she refused to go see a shrink and her family made any problems go away $$$$.
If you are looking for some 1950s stereotype, they don't exist, and other than on television, when they were paired with an affable, pipe-smoking husband, they never really did thanks to government. The legal system starting from the 30s has undermined any male authority in a relationship, while maintaining male responsibility, divorce and domestic violence laws assume that all women are completely incapable of living on their own, that any divorce or violence is caused by some flaw of the husband, and that the husband must continue to care for the wife until some other sucker comes along and marries her, maybe even after that as well. Adjust your expectations, fella. Yes, there are women out there who want, in their heart of hearts, to settle down with a couple of kids and a provider-husband. But society has moved on from that line of thinking decades ago. Unless you are very blessed financially, or you are willing to live somewhere where it takes manual labor to maintain a farmstead, you need a wife who is an equal partner in all things. She might be earning the bacon and have the capability to cook it too, but you better be ready and able to pitch in on an equal basis. Find one that is politically centrist in a way that you can tolerate for a while. Bonus points if she is Christian, that would make her more open to traditional values. Foster that relationship, show her that you are a good leader, a man worth following. Then, ease into it. Say stuff like "I know you're not a conservative, but even you understand xyz, right?" Over time, if she cares about you, she will care about the things you care about. Suddenly, you'll find yourself in the relationship you're looking for. Convert them subtly and discreetly, women are biologically made to be morally amorphous which makes them mailable to the influence of strong willed men.
Well the NWO can't just fuck the USA. Japan, Poland, Hungary. Compliance and/or invasions will happen.
When your country needs Jesus, but unironically Edit:
Thread here ended up being on /r9k/. The place is generally crap but here's the thread that OP reminded me of. Put on adblock because this archive has pop-up ads.
OH!
Saw a really great threadon /pol/ I'll see if I still have it in my history and link it if so (saw it last month IIRC). Essentially a Japanese guy was saying how Japanese women are and it was like OP. Plus pics he collected from various sources online of JP women having all manner of sex with men. Practices I remember him mentioning include lots of NSA sex through twitter DMs, really top men being so in demand they'd have applications for prospective women to fill out. I'm trying to avoid calling it all degenerate but... yeah it was. Now, I saw it on 4chan so maybe a JP person here can correct me if it was bullshit but it really dovetailed with OP post here. RIP JP bros ;_;7 if true no wonder all the men are dropping outAmusing article but it sounds like bullshit to me.
Gynocentric?
The japanese word for wife, "O-Kane-o", means "Stay in the home."
The japanese kanji for "evil" is the kanji for woman three times surrounded by the kanji for house.
Japan is the most andro-centric society in the history of the world. Like all societies they have their simps, but this guy sounds so deep in simping color he thinks Japan is more gynocentric than America, where we are no longer allowed to say "Chairman" or "Key man risk."
Oh I've seen cases where women were humane and emotional towards other men.
Towards each other? (women being humane to other women) yeah citation needed
I know I know. Im just saying that chances of a female being humane towards a male (be it for some personal benefits or whatever) is far more likely than a woman being humane towards anlther woman
They're worse, especially American women.