I didn't take it because of several reasons, primarily because of one man: Carl Denninger at market-ticker.org. Some of the in depth posts he did before COVID first hit here made me doubt everything that the authorities said about COVID, and having already been given an "experimental" vaccine in the military (Anthrax) I wanted nothing to do with this new one.
As a retiree the DoD couldn't make me get it, either, so I noped out of it. I knew the mask mandate was crap, too, due to the NBC training I've had, so I didnt wear a mask at all, either.
Scott wasn't exposed to any of that, of course, so he was still reliant on institutional sources of knowledge, and it bit him big time.
Even normies should have been able to see the massive flip between "stop panic buying masks they don't do anything" to "wear masks all the time everywhere". Or the big PSAs about masks not stopping smoke - when smoke particles are much larger an airborne virus.
Or when it went from "children are immune to it" to "shut down the fucking schools, force toddlers into masks" in about a month. Or the classic "Covid can tell when a protest is about racism, and steers clear, but otherwise will kill you dead if you go outside."
We had all the necessary suspicions to know they weren't to be trust before summer hit, months before even the earliest vaxx came out.
The doctors and experts endorsing BLM riots in the middle of a “deadly pandemic” was the absolute show stopper. I still had some lingering doubts about the total corruption and politicization of covid prior to that moment.
No one's been able to tell me why a disease that has a 99.9% survivability rate become 85% fatal in a hospital. Whatever happened to "pink bubbles" being a symptom of Covid? Why did we stop using respirators? Was Remdesivir & Respirators the correct treatment when we physically banned people from taking HQC or Ivermectin?
How come Covid cured the Flu?
Or, my favorite way to re-create the "What does God need with a Starship?" scene from Star Trek 5 in real life:
"How do the unvaccinated infect the vaccinated if the vaccinations work?"
Their (false) claim was that it wasen't airborne, it was borne and transmited by surface contact ( 0 to negligible ) to droplets ( irrelevant because it's airborne anyway ). The cope? They couldn't know it was airborne.
Except it was documented since Febuary 2020 that it was airborne. So they lied. Again. About pretty much everything.
Or the flip from, "I'd never take a Trump vaccine" to "this is the safest most effective medication in the history of all medications and you'd better take it or we're going to keep you locked in your house forever and not even let you have a remote work job."
This was the most important flip, everything else COULD be argued as "we learned more" which I'm 100% fine with, knowledge that you could be wrong should make you hesitant to inflict suffering in the name of the greater good, but NOT doing that is a failure, not a conspiracy.
The mask flip isn't that. When they flipped, their claim was that they KNEW masks worked, but lied because they needed to manage supply. Which again, as a game theory question, that's a reasonable line to take.
But what it means is, "we will lie to you about the choices you make for your personal health to protect the whole. If we believing lying to you so that you harm yourself will protect n+1 people we will do it"
And again, fine. Perfectly reasonable. But you have destroyed entirely your moral position to demand i listen to you without question. Either masks work or they do not. Whether they lied the first time or the second time doesn't matter, because AT BEST their highest moral claim is that they lied for good reasons.
Fine, but that means I have to make my own choices.
Just so you know, air filters have a weird dip there they work for particles much smaller than the filter size and larger, but ones closer to the filter size aren't caught. The large particles get physically caught whereas the small ones get stuck in eddies (analogous to getting stuck under a dam).
Although to effectively catch small particles the air needs to pass over it many times, so your house air filter can catch them, but a mask won't catch many.
And a paper mask doesn't seal at all, so it does virtually nothing. The purpose of those is to keep stuff from getting in your mouth, and block your own sneezes, while you do delicate work. For example in surgery, you don't want blood getting in your mouth. They don't do anything to airborne particulates.
My position has always been that many of them DO care. But they don't care in the same way that YOU do.
Power corrupts and all that, but the cruel version of that is the easy one. There's also the "small crimes" version, where when confronted with hard choices, each time you make one it makes it easier to do something a bit worse.
Monster you be lest the monster you become.
So you're in charge of health. You WILL watch people die, you WILL make choices that kill people. And if you don't have a strong moral foundation to begin with (and you don't. Less than 5% of humanity does) you become comfortable visiting unnecessary cruelty on people based either on the absolute coldest blood math at best, and to make your job easier at worse. What's one more?
I knew the mask mandate was crap, too, due to the NBC training I've had, so I didnt wear a mask at all, either.
That's the nuttiest shit.
I remember going into a store and everyone was wearing those stupid face-diapers. Then some dude came in full MOPP gear. People were looking at him like he was crazy.
I was just thinking, "He's the only person in here with something that actually has a chance at not getting Covid."
If you really worried you're gonna get Covid, no cloth mask with a Marvel character on it is gonna stop it.
I'm just going to start pasting this towards those now trying to claim they were duped or thought it was for the best at the time despite the glaring issues with how hard the vaxxes were pushed on people.
It's cute how many think things are ever going to return to how they were after simply following all those orders.
Your rights are gone.
You sat back and watched as others were vilified for calling out the slow boil.
You jeered at those rightfully calling out the not even slow power grabs by various "liberal" governments around the entire Western world.
seems like a lifetime ago, but yeah the vax shit lasted for 2.5 years before the (((western governments))) felt the frog was going to jump out of the pot (mass protests needing pepper spray and tear gas to shut down, some even real bullets)
i remember when they discriminated against me, i had to sit outside at the café in June in like almost 36C and most waiters treated me as if i were a leper
also no travel, for almost 3 years i couldn't take a flight or a cruise because of the vax bullshit
even so, i'm proud to be a pureblood and i will continue to belittle any normalfaggot who was coerced to take the bloodrape
how many think things are ever going to return to how they were after simply following all those orders
You can't comply your way out of tyranny.
The pseudo-sanitary circus ended when politicians thought they pushed as far as they could. Not because ''the mesures worked so we can remove them now.''
All my friends and the part of my family that got it came around after the boosters were pushed. Only then did it become absurd enough for them to come around.
I am very sorry for him. There, but for the grace of God. I still can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people fell for it. Even when they were told and shown the lies in as many words.
No, no, that totally didn't happen and claiming such is misinformation, bigot! Now get into the MAID chamber alongside those truck drivers that aren't truckers or we'll freeze your bank accounts and jail you indefinitely without trial!
If there was anything you were doing that the government could ruin they did so in Canada. Considering the vast majority of Canadians live paycheck to paycheck the coercion was extreme. Plenty of people had to take it because the alternative was destitution even when it was obvious how much of scam the whole situation was.
That means government work. Not grocery work. Which was, indeed, mandatory vax. So, in a way, your post is misinformation. I and many people, who work in PRIVATE INDUSTRY, were "not-fired" because of COVID. ("not-fired" because the government allowed blatant discrimination based upon medical status, you weren't "fired", you were voluntarily quitting for not taking an experimental drug, that way you don't get unemployment, either, and this was an order coming down from the government.)
I had to lie about getting Covid because work would have required multiple rounds of testing and an injection or I'd be fired (and this is the states). I worked from home anyway so just told them I had a stomach flu.
If anyone asked me about getting the injections, I told them I wasn't sold on "Trump's Vaccine" and was waiting for the protein-based vaccine (called NovaVax).
Weird how the only protein-based vaccine didn't get emergency use authorization until 2023. Only the MRNA ones from major pharmaceutical companies.
Massive internal, intra-state, vaccination checks. Checks that were also going to be followed up with criminal prosecutions if you weren't "up to date" on your mandated injections. Also, you would be carrying documents 24/7 to prove it.
It happened in the US as well, although not as completely. But there was a legal mandate for anyone doing business with the federal government, and many private businesses put in their own as well. Not to mention the stuff some individual states or cities did.
This is the exact classic symptoms of irregular heart rhythms that I got from breathing in a small amount of freon 5 days a week for months. Fuck if I was going to risk going through that horse shit again. I figure I must be genetically predisposed because it does run in my family. Both my dad and grandpa both passed away, one in their 80's, the other in their 70's from congestive heart failure.
My holter only showed like a 100 some pvcs, and quite a few doubles and even a triple. (The triple pvcs would make my knees buckle, I would feel like dropping to the floor when it happened.), the doctors acted like thats no big deal, well it is when you feel every single fucking one and its giving you head rushes. Assholes at WCB tried to tell me 170/110 resting blood pressure is normal, these people are evil.
I've gone over them before but in Australia the conditions were so bad that 2 people self-immolated in protest over the lockdowns. The crimes against humanity are too long to go over at the moment.
In Latvia, a doctor's wife got a medical exemption from a covid injection because she was pregnant, and her doctor wasn't sure it would be safe for her baby. When the government found out she hadn't gotten an injection she and her husband were arrested and imprisoned.
It was when Trudeau ran an election campaign in the summer of 2021 on a platform of punishing the unjabbed by banning them from planes, trains and ships that things got really real.
With Biden stubbornly keeping the land border closed to foreign purebloods for well over another year, Trudeau's malicious edict effectively sealed the unjabbed into the country by Oct 2021, preventing any legal means of escape.
I saw right through Kung Flu the moment the vax came out. The urgency of its deploy and untested nature was transparently a ploy. At that point I knew the virus was a fad and immediately dropped all concern over it.
Just look how the Uniparty acted about it. They were all skeptical of the jab, wouldn't take it, etc. Then the election comes and goes, and not a week later the jab is announced and ready to go (so Trump gets zero boost for the success of project warp speed).
And as soon as the coup was complete and the Uniparty is back in power, that same sketchy jab became the miracle juice everyone MUST take.
And if that wasn't obvious enough, they let illegals stream over the border without as much as a qtip up the nose to test for COVID. All the while actual US citizens were harassed at work or when traveling. Or being in trouble for having family gatherings in their own homes or going to church.
And let's not forget BLM riots. Where all that social distancing didn't matter anymore since blacks just HAVE to be allowed to destroy cities once a generation or so.
I was lucky that I didn't need to make any hard choices whether to get the shots or lose my job, I work at a factory with only about 90 employees so they were under that threshold where it was mandatory, and thankfully the management weren't ideologically captured. But what really turned me against it was my D&D group. I met a couple at a local game store who had just moved to Ohio from California and were looking for people to play with, and this was just as I was looking to getting into tabletop, so it was perfect. I could tell they were liberals, but they weren't insufferable about it at the time. Then, two years later, covid happened and they stopped having sessions IRL and moved it online over Roll20. At first, this wasn't too bad, but I could tell covid was breaking them. They got more and more political, the DM started bringing in more people into the Discord group he made just for us to use during sessions, and eventually the topic of someday having IRL games again came up - on the stipulation that everyone must have had all the covid shots. I said I wasn't considering it, they said I couldn't come over if I didn't, and I replied with 'noted'. Weeks later, I got into an argument with the DM's wife over the earnings gap between men and women, where I correctly pointed out it was because of women on average making different life choices than men, not some chauvinistic conspiracy. This was the 'last straw', because apparently there had been an 'elephant in the room' with me for a while, and they couldn't understand why I'd even want to be friends with them if I had different political opinions than them. I cut my losses and left the group.
I wonder how they're doing now? The DM was like 500 lbs when I last saw him, lol.
Ya I lost family mostly. My uncle became an insufferable retard as did a couple others. I grew so sick of their condescending attitude I haven't talked to them in years.
I hate this "you just didn't take it because of a mistrust of the government or big companies"
It demeans and tries to deny people having intuition, the ability to reason, etc.
I have a distrust of Google. I still use Google/YouTube knowing they're a nefarious company.
Because for now, there's usable things that are worth the cost. I can find free old movies on YouTube, etc.
With the vaccine, what I could tell you for sure is they used guilt manipulation tactics and propaganda.
Anything that does that makes me immediately know we've passed into a whole other category of "run away from this thing".
If there was a concerted effort by the government, late night hosts, celebrities, to try to peer pressure you into using YouTube or else grandma's going to die and you're selfish for not doing it, I'd stop watching YouTube YESTERDAY.
I don't need to be a scientist to see nefarious psychological manipulation tactics for a disease I have not known anyone to have died from (my late 80s year old grandma survived it, two other family members with auto immune diseases survived it)
So when the pressure FAR exceeds the threat and I see who's doing the pressuring and threatening, it's a simple matter of deduction.
I don't need to go get a degree in virology to learn everything under the sun. I can make rational conclusions from a sufficient amount of information.
It's why despite knowing nothing about geopolitics, I immediately rejected the narrative for Ukraine.
I saw that all the most evil entities on earth, Disney, pornhub, the Biden administration, the left in general, all supported Ukraine.
That was all I needed to know that there's far more to the story and frankly made me trust Russias version of events far more.
Trying to frame it as "you got lucky with a guess that was just a general mistrust of big government and corporations" is because people don't want to admit they acted foolishly and ignored very clear red flags that should cause someone's instincts, intuition to kick in to high gear.
Guilt tripping is something that has never worked on me and when it's done, it immediately makes me suspicious.
When I then see the same guilt trip manipulations being parroted by doctors I encounter and leftist family members, I now know enough despite sucking at science.
EDIT: wanted to add another piece which is assuming people can't possibly be privy to alternative places of information with varying legitimacy based on the circles they frequent whether online or off.
As an example, I don't really get into the whole Freemason, secret society stuff, but I don't necessarily discount it when I hear people talking passionately about it. Whether it's true or not true, I don't know, but I at least assume people are privy to sites chronicling things that I'm not aware of. It doesn't make it true, but it also doesn't make it not true and I'm not going to deny Freemason secret cults unless I look into as much info as possible.
I used to discount "conspiracy theories" but after seeing years later all the things I wasn't told about Sandy Hook, I learned the humble thing is to at least be open to the possibilities.
Not only is intuition legitimate decision making, so is mistrusting government. There's nothing wrong with that being your sole motivation and using it as a decision point doesn't make you merely "lucky."
"We're just trying to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed"
"Once in a century pandemic"
By the time they rolled out the vaccine there were already way too many slogans that sounded like they were dreamed up by advertising companies and focus tested..... Anyone with half a brain could sense that the whole entire thing was planned in advance
My heart breaks for anyone forced to take this vaccine. I only hope Scott Adams is an exception and not the rule. I wouldn't wish cancer on even my most hated enemies.
When it comes to hated enemies, I know I would. Fauci and that porch monkey running the WHO. And especially that subhuman street shitter with the bugged-out bots (that appear to have exploded on him) that was going on and on about how there was no mandate, lol.
It was about risk categories mostly: were you below the age of 40, had no history of respiratory illnesses, weren't obese or significantly overweight, and was your health in general good condition? Then the answer should have been: no thanks.
Another thing was that in the USA, 'the vaccine' was in fact three different vaccines, two of which were pulled from the European market due to side-effects.
I was poisoned with refrigerant in 2018. Spent 9 months with raging blood pressure and irregular heart rhythms while being given a maximum dose of blood pressure medication. When that failed to do anything the doctor accused me of not taking it. Finally got a holter monitor done, convinced another doctor to give me beta blockers.
Took over a year or two for things to feel somewhat normal again. Eventually I was able to stop taking the beta blockers. I never want to experience the irregular heart rhythms again, I would rather die.
First thing I learned from a rushed vaccine made by a super computer was that there was a potential for heart inflammation and irregular heart rhythms associated with it. Couldnt keep a job at that point anyway, so I had nothing to lose.
Id rather die than potentially go through that again. Im pretty sure it fucked my kidneys and thats why I have hyperparathyroidism but I cant get these canadian shitheads to give a fuck enough to help me. After everything I have been through, Id rather be on a battlefield bullets whizzing by my fucking head than go face another dumbass retarded doctor making excuses.
For all we know though, these people who took a leaky vaccine are going to create a strain of covid that will kill the unvaccinated, seems to be the entire point really.
The paper has gone viral because some people are using it to stoke paranoia that the COVID-19 vaccines will cause the virus to evolve in the direction of even more severe variants. Doctors have told me that patients are using the paper to justify their decision to not get vaccinated. Some pundits are even using it to urge an end to vaccination campaigns in order to prevent the sort of viral evolution we were studying in chickens.
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If more deadly variants of the coronavirus were to arise, lower vaccination rates would make it easier to identify and contain them because unvaccinated people would suffer more severe infections and higher death rates. But that kind of “solution” would come at considerable cost. In effect, the variants would be found and eliminated by letting people get sick, many of whom would die.
Lovely........
I believe covid was man made, and a weapon, that it does some kinda damage on its own, so what the vaccine is for is the head scratcher. Surely there are more side effects at higher rates than we are being told, but I dont think the shots were intended to maim or kill anyone.
Wish I had saved the one or two comments I seen where people were legit hoping that this would kill us.
Again ill point out this article too because I believe they are directly related.
This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from raiders as well as angry mobs. One had already secured a dozen Navy Seals to make their way to his compound if he gave them the right cue. But how would he pay the guards once even his crypto was worthless? What would stop the guards from eventually choosing their own leader?
The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed “in time”.
Imagine if all you had to do, was deny somone a simple shot?
I believe covid was man made, and a weapon, that it does some kinda damage on its own
All evidence suggests it wasn't a true biological weapon. Like, an artillery shell leaked or something. But they were doing illegal gain of function research for a bio-weapon project of some kind. That's why DARPA denied them funding in the first place.
I've been interested in reading various scientific papers for 15 years now on various topics that interest me, and so I was fairly well versed in detecting if a paper had poor methodology and what "p-hacking" looks like. For me it was obvious as fuck that the data wasn't supportive of the vaccine, but trying to explain this to my family was futile as I wasn't an accredited scientist it was impossible in spite of them always calling me smart and intelligent my entire life.
I was fairly well versed in detecting if a paper had poor methodology and what "p-hacking" looks like.
When 2x of the vaccine arm died vs the unvaccinated- and the manufacturers responded by : changing the endpoint to “infection- as decided by our private lab”
The biggest con of the whole pandemic happened at the very beginning: the immediate shift from reporting Infection Fatality Rate to Case Fatality Rate. For most of recorded epidemic history, health authorities, governments, and media reported the IFR, which is based on the projected number of total infections. Because they correctly understood that the vast majority of cases in any covid-level epidemic go unreported.
For covid, everyone spontaneously switched to CFR - based on official cases - which generates a much higher and highly inaccurate fatality rate. Because official cases are also the most severe. Usually, the difference in fatality rates is 10x. So the “fatality rate” for covid went from 00.2% to 2%. Of course people got scared. 1 in 50 is a legitimately concerning number when half the people you know are testing positive (via rigged PCR tests).
Yeah all I needed to know was their precious illegals weren't being jabbed, let alone tested. You know, one group where it'd make sense to at least test (during a WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC they couldn't fearmonger enough about or demand you jab up for grandma).
Meanwhile, people were losing their jobs over a medical decision or being harassed for private medical paperwork to keep that paycheck.
That was one of the facts that sealed my desire to avoid the jab at all costs. What got me suspicious in the first place was noticing that most of the deaths were the elderly and people with preconditions, the mantra that cloth masks could reduce your risk of getting it, people "dying from covid" because they died in a car accident, the "fact" it had the same symptoms as the flu, and the "fact" you could have it with no symptoms.
And I still haven't seen 10M+ people die because they weren't jabbed (or because they were). Wonder where the goalposts are now today -- they'll be dead in 10 years? 20 maybe?
Its really funny, because I had the Rona three times (only the first mattered) and I could tell easily that it wasn't the flu but at the same time was very similar to the times I had bronchitis. I in fact only learned I had the Rona because of mandatory testing when I went in thinking it was the bronchitis, and would have just assumed that was the case otherwise.
So that fact alone is solid evidence that they gave up any scientific rigor, or even bothering to test, any of the nearly identical and common illnesses during that time frame, just to fluff the numbers up.
The jabs weren’t cyanide. Why would people suddenly drop dead? It will take decades for the total impact of the vaxx to materialize in our statistics, and early returns are already pointing to substantial increases in infertility and all-cause mortality (from turbo cancers).
You may be referencing other comments he published, but distrust of government and big pharma is a VERY good reason.
Other good reasons are;
all vaccines are bad.
big pharma never cures anything, only sells drugs that have side affects that require more drugs.
valid treatments were dismissed with terrible logic (horse paste).
it doesn't make sense to vaccinate during a pandemic.
inconstancies like; nobody had it then it was everywhere, mask on- mask off, 6 ft rule except when dining, big stores were okay but small shops were not, politicians could ignore all the rules they made, riots were good but family gatherings were not
What killed me was when some idiot on Reddit tried to prove to me that the vaccine was effective, truth is he only cited an MSNBC news article.
In reality it was a study conducted by Pfizer themselves that said the injection was only effective at reducing the viral load of a patient with the Alpha strain by 30%. This equated to a minor reduction in symptoms, and no change in transmissibility. It was also ended early because all of the testers were immediately infected by the Delta strain, which the initial vaccine could not work against.
Meh, doesn't count since if he wasn't rapidly dying of cancer he wouldn't bother saying this. It's only because he's personally afflicted through his own actions he's trying for a deathbed confession.
Were he still fine would he extend the same consideration to others suffering non cancer related side effects of the totally safe and effective treatment? I doubt it.
The video here is from like 2023, so its not a deathbed confession, unless he has been hiding the cancer this entire time.
He saw the writing on the wall that literally no one was letting him live down Clott Adams, and tried to defang it with a very insincere "okay you were right, you happy now?" speech to make us look like the unreasonable ones for still harping on it.
As early as 2022 he alluded to a health complaint that was apparently so bad that he promised(!) he was going to kill himself in 1-2 years if it didn't get better (timestamp 51:50). The way he sandwiched this in between talk about antivaxxers 'winning' around that time suggests it was vaxx-related. He's pulling some doublethink fuckery at the moment - and by extension, has been doing so the whole time - by glossing over the connection between his general health and the covid shot, by hiding his cancer and by not talking about the course of his general health over the past 3 years. And as you said in the other thread it's all because he's sore about having 'lost' an internet argument, which he still frames as facts (him, but given the wrong facts) vs feels (antivaxxers, accidentally right).
Because he likes to play these little weasel games, its impossible to truly know. He is over 70, so its entirely possible to not only have multiple major health issues at once, but even have them independent of the vaxx.
But he staked his legacy to it, even going so far as to plant the seed for us to blame it for this cancer, so everyone is going to just say that was the case. And he will die and be known after as literally killing himself to prove the internet wrong.
To his credit though... most people who took it would not have admitted this even after finding out that for-sure any illness they've been afflicted with was directly caused by Injections.
But yeah, you're right in the reasoning behind his admission. Those kinds of people have too much faith in the current establishment and too much pride to say they are wrong, ever.
We did not "win". We were right and faired better. Winning would have meant stopping the madness before it got added to the children's pharma schedule, among other things.
Yea, if I were him, with a terminal cancer diagnosis and lots of spare money, there are not a few people who would need to radically increase their security detail.
Seeing a lot of rationalization for “why I did” or “why I didn’t” , or “people were forced to” or “I was gonna lose my job” “muh family” etc etc
Nobody was fucking forced to. Everybody had a rationalization.
It’s no coincidence that The vaccine rate is 80% vax vs 20% non-vax. What statistical rule does that line up with? The Pareto principle.
If you’re in the 20% , congrats, you represent the part of the human race capable of non-conformance decision making.
If you’re in the 80%, sorry, you were always going to get vaxxed. So come up with whatever excuse you want about why you were compelled to : you are part of the consensus decision making population.
I didn't take it because of several reasons, primarily because of one man: Carl Denninger at market-ticker.org. Some of the in depth posts he did before COVID first hit here made me doubt everything that the authorities said about COVID, and having already been given an "experimental" vaccine in the military (Anthrax) I wanted nothing to do with this new one.
As a retiree the DoD couldn't make me get it, either, so I noped out of it. I knew the mask mandate was crap, too, due to the NBC training I've had, so I didnt wear a mask at all, either.
Scott wasn't exposed to any of that, of course, so he was still reliant on institutional sources of knowledge, and it bit him big time.
Even normies should have been able to see the massive flip between "stop panic buying masks they don't do anything" to "wear masks all the time everywhere". Or the big PSAs about masks not stopping smoke - when smoke particles are much larger an airborne virus.
Or when it went from "children are immune to it" to "shut down the fucking schools, force toddlers into masks" in about a month. Or the classic "Covid can tell when a protest is about racism, and steers clear, but otherwise will kill you dead if you go outside."
We had all the necessary suspicions to know they weren't to be trust before summer hit, months before even the earliest vaxx came out.
The doctors and experts endorsing BLM riots in the middle of a “deadly pandemic” was the absolute show stopper. I still had some lingering doubts about the total corruption and politicization of covid prior to that moment.
No one's been able to tell me why a disease that has a 99.9% survivability rate become 85% fatal in a hospital. Whatever happened to "pink bubbles" being a symptom of Covid? Why did we stop using respirators? Was Remdesivir & Respirators the correct treatment when we physically banned people from taking HQC or Ivermectin?
How come Covid cured the Flu?
Or, my favorite way to re-create the "What does God need with a Starship?" scene from Star Trek 5 in real life:
"How do the unvaccinated infect the vaccinated if the vaccinations work?"
This too. I thought for sure the riots would kill the lockdown bullshit but nope, they went right on believing it anyway.
Their (false) claim was that it wasen't airborne, it was borne and transmited by surface contact ( 0 to negligible ) to droplets ( irrelevant because it's airborne anyway ). The cope? They couldn't know it was airborne.
Except it was documented since Febuary 2020 that it was airborne. So they lied. Again. About pretty much everything.
Or the flip from, "I'd never take a Trump vaccine" to "this is the safest most effective medication in the history of all medications and you'd better take it or we're going to keep you locked in your house forever and not even let you have a remote work job."
This was the most important flip, everything else COULD be argued as "we learned more" which I'm 100% fine with, knowledge that you could be wrong should make you hesitant to inflict suffering in the name of the greater good, but NOT doing that is a failure, not a conspiracy.
The mask flip isn't that. When they flipped, their claim was that they KNEW masks worked, but lied because they needed to manage supply. Which again, as a game theory question, that's a reasonable line to take.
But what it means is, "we will lie to you about the choices you make for your personal health to protect the whole. If we believing lying to you so that you harm yourself will protect n+1 people we will do it"
And again, fine. Perfectly reasonable. But you have destroyed entirely your moral position to demand i listen to you without question. Either masks work or they do not. Whether they lied the first time or the second time doesn't matter, because AT BEST their highest moral claim is that they lied for good reasons.
Fine, but that means I have to make my own choices.
Just so you know, air filters have a weird dip there they work for particles much smaller than the filter size and larger, but ones closer to the filter size aren't caught. The large particles get physically caught whereas the small ones get stuck in eddies (analogous to getting stuck under a dam).
Although to effectively catch small particles the air needs to pass over it many times, so your house air filter can catch them, but a mask won't catch many.
And a paper mask doesn't seal at all, so it does virtually nothing. The purpose of those is to keep stuff from getting in your mouth, and block your own sneezes, while you do delicate work. For example in surgery, you don't want blood getting in your mouth. They don't do anything to airborne particulates.
I didn't take it purely because it was coerced on us, and they tried to shame us for it
when was the last time the (((Government))) actually cared about the people's health? we're just guinea pigs to be experimented and milked for $hekels
My position has always been that many of them DO care. But they don't care in the same way that YOU do.
Power corrupts and all that, but the cruel version of that is the easy one. There's also the "small crimes" version, where when confronted with hard choices, each time you make one it makes it easier to do something a bit worse.
Monster you be lest the monster you become.
So you're in charge of health. You WILL watch people die, you WILL make choices that kill people. And if you don't have a strong moral foundation to begin with (and you don't. Less than 5% of humanity does) you become comfortable visiting unnecessary cruelty on people based either on the absolute coldest blood math at best, and to make your job easier at worse. What's one more?
Bingo. Carl posted the original "Why did the flu go down by the exact amount Covid went up?" info that should have been the wakeup call to everyone.
I'm specifically talking about the analysis he did with the Diamond Princess outbreak, and his hypothesis that it was spreading through fecal contact.
How did Covid cure the Flu?
How many people die from the Flu every year again?
Brother stop making excuses for vermin.
That's the nuttiest shit.
I remember going into a store and everyone was wearing those stupid face-diapers. Then some dude came in full MOPP gear. People were looking at him like he was crazy.
I was just thinking, "He's the only person in here with something that actually has a chance at not getting Covid."
If you really worried you're gonna get Covid, no cloth mask with a Marvel character on it is gonna stop it.
I'm just going to start pasting this towards those now trying to claim they were duped or thought it was for the best at the time despite the glaring issues with how hard the vaxxes were pushed on people.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/141Y4cA5ll/x/c/4OTNowj61eS
hard to believe it was only 3 years ago
seems like a lifetime ago, but yeah the vax shit lasted for 2.5 years before the (((western governments))) felt the frog was going to jump out of the pot (mass protests needing pepper spray and tear gas to shut down, some even real bullets)
i remember when they discriminated against me, i had to sit outside at the café in June in like almost 36C and most waiters treated me as if i were a leper
also no travel, for almost 3 years i couldn't take a flight or a cruise because of the vax bullshit
even so, i'm proud to be a pureblood and i will continue to belittle any normalfaggot who was coerced to take the bloodrape
You can't comply your way out of tyranny.
The pseudo-sanitary circus ended when politicians thought they pushed as far as they could. Not because ''the mesures worked so we can remove them now.''
All my friends and the part of my family that got it came around after the boosters were pushed. Only then did it become absurd enough for them to come around.
Lets make them watch their fucking musical numbers
I want "SHUT THE FUCK UP AN PUT ON YOUR MASK" branded onto their foreheads.
I am very sorry for him. There, but for the grace of God. I still can't believe how many otherwise intelligent people fell for it. Even when they were told and shown the lies in as many words.
It also didn't help in places like Canada they forced you to take the jab or you would lose employment.
No, no, that totally didn't happen and claiming such is misinformation, bigot! Now get into the MAID chamber alongside those truck drivers that aren't truckers or we'll freeze your bank accounts and jail you indefinitely without trial!
If there was anything you were doing that the government could ruin they did so in Canada. Considering the vast majority of Canadians live paycheck to paycheck the coercion was extreme. Plenty of people had to take it because the alternative was destitution even when it was obvious how much of scam the whole situation was.
Your last sentence is the crux of the issue.
That means government work. Not grocery work. Which was, indeed, mandatory vax. So, in a way, your post is misinformation. I and many people, who work in PRIVATE INDUSTRY, were "not-fired" because of COVID. ("not-fired" because the government allowed blatant discrimination based upon medical status, you weren't "fired", you were voluntarily quitting for not taking an experimental drug, that way you don't get unemployment, either, and this was an order coming down from the government.)
I had to lie about getting Covid because work would have required multiple rounds of testing and an injection or I'd be fired (and this is the states). I worked from home anyway so just told them I had a stomach flu.
If anyone asked me about getting the injections, I told them I wasn't sold on "Trump's Vaccine" and was waiting for the protein-based vaccine (called NovaVax).
Weird how the only protein-based vaccine didn't get emergency use authorization until 2023. Only the MRNA ones from major pharmaceutical companies.
People forgot why the Truckers were protesting.
Massive internal, intra-state, vaccination checks. Checks that were also going to be followed up with criminal prosecutions if you weren't "up to date" on your mandated injections. Also, you would be carrying documents 24/7 to prove it.
It totally never happened! And if it did happen then you need to forgive them and move on! Doctors and nurses are heroes!!!
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It happened in the US as well, although not as completely. But there was a legal mandate for anyone doing business with the federal government, and many private businesses put in their own as well. Not to mention the stuff some individual states or cities did.
Canada went full nutso.
Us dirty plague rats werent allowed to use restaurants, movie theaters, shopping malls, visit sick/dying loved ones.
They all act like they didnt do anything like that, its like everyone just blanked that year out of existence.
https://ibb.co/vbQVH1W
Day after day reading comments like this.
https://ibb.co/ymHzyPcf
This is the exact classic symptoms of irregular heart rhythms that I got from breathing in a small amount of freon 5 days a week for months. Fuck if I was going to risk going through that horse shit again. I figure I must be genetically predisposed because it does run in my family. Both my dad and grandpa both passed away, one in their 80's, the other in their 70's from congestive heart failure.
My holter only showed like a 100 some pvcs, and quite a few doubles and even a triple. (The triple pvcs would make my knees buckle, I would feel like dropping to the floor when it happened.), the doctors acted like thats no big deal, well it is when you feel every single fucking one and its giving you head rushes. Assholes at WCB tried to tell me 170/110 resting blood pressure is normal, these people are evil.
No one holds a candle to Latvia and Australia.
I've gone over them before but in Australia the conditions were so bad that 2 people self-immolated in protest over the lockdowns. The crimes against humanity are too long to go over at the moment.
In Latvia, a doctor's wife got a medical exemption from a covid injection because she was pregnant, and her doctor wasn't sure it would be safe for her baby. When the government found out she hadn't gotten an injection she and her husband were arrested and imprisoned.
I know people who took it because they wanted to go to a concert. You really had to see Taylor Swift that fucking bad??
If your job says "eat snake venom to stay employed" you find a new job.
Mate I am in Australia. I lost a job over it. Didn't care - there was nothing they could do to force me.
It was when Trudeau ran an election campaign in the summer of 2021 on a platform of punishing the unjabbed by banning them from planes, trains and ships that things got really real.
With Biden stubbornly keeping the land border closed to foreign purebloods for well over another year, Trudeau's malicious edict effectively sealed the unjabbed into the country by Oct 2021, preventing any legal means of escape.
Yes, I remind myself whenever I see people praised as "smart", did they take the vax?
I saw right through Kung Flu the moment the vax came out. The urgency of its deploy and untested nature was transparently a ploy. At that point I knew the virus was a fad and immediately dropped all concern over it.
Just look how the Uniparty acted about it. They were all skeptical of the jab, wouldn't take it, etc. Then the election comes and goes, and not a week later the jab is announced and ready to go (so Trump gets zero boost for the success of project warp speed).
And as soon as the coup was complete and the Uniparty is back in power, that same sketchy jab became the miracle juice everyone MUST take.
And if that wasn't obvious enough, they let illegals stream over the border without as much as a qtip up the nose to test for COVID. All the while actual US citizens were harassed at work or when traveling. Or being in trouble for having family gatherings in their own homes or going to church.
And let's not forget BLM riots. Where all that social distancing didn't matter anymore since blacks just HAVE to be allowed to destroy cities once a generation or so.
I was lucky that I didn't need to make any hard choices whether to get the shots or lose my job, I work at a factory with only about 90 employees so they were under that threshold where it was mandatory, and thankfully the management weren't ideologically captured. But what really turned me against it was my D&D group. I met a couple at a local game store who had just moved to Ohio from California and were looking for people to play with, and this was just as I was looking to getting into tabletop, so it was perfect. I could tell they were liberals, but they weren't insufferable about it at the time. Then, two years later, covid happened and they stopped having sessions IRL and moved it online over Roll20. At first, this wasn't too bad, but I could tell covid was breaking them. They got more and more political, the DM started bringing in more people into the Discord group he made just for us to use during sessions, and eventually the topic of someday having IRL games again came up - on the stipulation that everyone must have had all the covid shots. I said I wasn't considering it, they said I couldn't come over if I didn't, and I replied with 'noted'. Weeks later, I got into an argument with the DM's wife over the earnings gap between men and women, where I correctly pointed out it was because of women on average making different life choices than men, not some chauvinistic conspiracy. This was the 'last straw', because apparently there had been an 'elephant in the room' with me for a while, and they couldn't understand why I'd even want to be friends with them if I had different political opinions than them. I cut my losses and left the group.
I wonder how they're doing now? The DM was like 500 lbs when I last saw him, lol.
Ya I lost family mostly. My uncle became an insufferable retard as did a couple others. I grew so sick of their condescending attitude I haven't talked to them in years.
People were told to lose their friends and family over lockdowns and injections.
Covid didn't do that. People did.
2715 lbs now, according to gravitational scanning of the area. There's a mild distortion of earth's gravity field there.
I hate this "you just didn't take it because of a mistrust of the government or big companies"
It demeans and tries to deny people having intuition, the ability to reason, etc.
I have a distrust of Google. I still use Google/YouTube knowing they're a nefarious company.
Because for now, there's usable things that are worth the cost. I can find free old movies on YouTube, etc.
With the vaccine, what I could tell you for sure is they used guilt manipulation tactics and propaganda.
Anything that does that makes me immediately know we've passed into a whole other category of "run away from this thing".
If there was a concerted effort by the government, late night hosts, celebrities, to try to peer pressure you into using YouTube or else grandma's going to die and you're selfish for not doing it, I'd stop watching YouTube YESTERDAY.
I don't need to be a scientist to see nefarious psychological manipulation tactics for a disease I have not known anyone to have died from (my late 80s year old grandma survived it, two other family members with auto immune diseases survived it)
So when the pressure FAR exceeds the threat and I see who's doing the pressuring and threatening, it's a simple matter of deduction.
I don't need to go get a degree in virology to learn everything under the sun. I can make rational conclusions from a sufficient amount of information.
It's why despite knowing nothing about geopolitics, I immediately rejected the narrative for Ukraine.
I saw that all the most evil entities on earth, Disney, pornhub, the Biden administration, the left in general, all supported Ukraine.
That was all I needed to know that there's far more to the story and frankly made me trust Russias version of events far more.
Trying to frame it as "you got lucky with a guess that was just a general mistrust of big government and corporations" is because people don't want to admit they acted foolishly and ignored very clear red flags that should cause someone's instincts, intuition to kick in to high gear.
Guilt tripping is something that has never worked on me and when it's done, it immediately makes me suspicious.
When I then see the same guilt trip manipulations being parroted by doctors I encounter and leftist family members, I now know enough despite sucking at science.
EDIT: wanted to add another piece which is assuming people can't possibly be privy to alternative places of information with varying legitimacy based on the circles they frequent whether online or off.
As an example, I don't really get into the whole Freemason, secret society stuff, but I don't necessarily discount it when I hear people talking passionately about it. Whether it's true or not true, I don't know, but I at least assume people are privy to sites chronicling things that I'm not aware of. It doesn't make it true, but it also doesn't make it not true and I'm not going to deny Freemason secret cults unless I look into as much info as possible.
I used to discount "conspiracy theories" but after seeing years later all the things I wasn't told about Sandy Hook, I learned the humble thing is to at least be open to the possibilities.
Not only is intuition legitimate decision making, so is mistrusting government. There's nothing wrong with that being your sole motivation and using it as a decision point doesn't make you merely "lucky."
"2 weeks to flatten the curve"
"Frontline heroes"
"PPE"
"6 FT social distance"
"The New normal"
"Mask up to save grandma"
"get tested often"
"We're just trying to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed"
"Once in a century pandemic"
By the time they rolled out the vaccine there were already way too many slogans that sounded like they were dreamed up by advertising companies and focus tested..... Anyone with half a brain could sense that the whole entire thing was planned in advance
Bingo, don't know why you got downvoted
Don't forget the "Team" nonsense about which vaxx you got, with people going as far as getting tattoos bragging about it.
Funny how that one disappeared quickly, likely because it was too on the nose and working negatively.
I do mistrust the government and corporations, but I didn't need any of that to refuse the clot shot.
It was created in 12 months. The average vaccine takes ~10 years to properly test. (not that any of them have actually been properly tested)
I wasn't about to take a rushed medication for the sniffles. Didn't even consider it for one second.
My heart breaks for anyone forced to take this vaccine. I only hope Scott Adams is an exception and not the rule. I wouldn't wish cancer on even my most hated enemies.
Many people were scared and coerced into taking the vax, and the ones who took the jab to keep their jobs is unfortunate.
I still blame the (((mainstream media))) for breaking down our high trust societies that allowed the weakest of us to act like a majority.
Everyone who resisted the lockdowns should get a Presidential Medal of Heroism.
When it comes to hated enemies, I know I would. Fauci and that porch monkey running the WHO. And especially that subhuman street shitter with the bugged-out bots (that appear to have exploded on him) that was going on and on about how there was no mandate, lol.
But he still argued that they did it for the wrong reasons.
(I know many who looked at the evidence and could see it wasn’t properly tested and wasn’t effective)
It was about risk categories mostly: were you below the age of 40, had no history of respiratory illnesses, weren't obese or significantly overweight, and was your health in general good condition? Then the answer should have been: no thanks.
Another thing was that in the USA, 'the vaccine' was in fact three different vaccines, two of which were pulled from the European market due to side-effects.
I was poisoned with refrigerant in 2018. Spent 9 months with raging blood pressure and irregular heart rhythms while being given a maximum dose of blood pressure medication. When that failed to do anything the doctor accused me of not taking it. Finally got a holter monitor done, convinced another doctor to give me beta blockers.
Took over a year or two for things to feel somewhat normal again. Eventually I was able to stop taking the beta blockers. I never want to experience the irregular heart rhythms again, I would rather die.
First thing I learned from a rushed vaccine made by a super computer was that there was a potential for heart inflammation and irregular heart rhythms associated with it. Couldnt keep a job at that point anyway, so I had nothing to lose.
Id rather die than potentially go through that again. Im pretty sure it fucked my kidneys and thats why I have hyperparathyroidism but I cant get these canadian shitheads to give a fuck enough to help me. After everything I have been through, Id rather be on a battlefield bullets whizzing by my fucking head than go face another dumbass retarded doctor making excuses.
For all we know though, these people who took a leaky vaccine are going to create a strain of covid that will kill the unvaccinated, seems to be the entire point really.
Lets see what the experts have to say.
https://theconversation.com/vaccines-could-affect-how-the-coronavirus-evolves-but-thats-no-reason-to-skip-your-shot-165960
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Lovely........
I believe covid was man made, and a weapon, that it does some kinda damage on its own, so what the vaccine is for is the head scratcher. Surely there are more side effects at higher rates than we are being told, but I dont think the shots were intended to maim or kill anyone.
Wish I had saved the one or two comments I seen where people were legit hoping that this would kill us.
Again ill point out this article too because I believe they are directly related.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff
Imagine if all you had to do, was deny somone a simple shot?
All evidence suggests it wasn't a true biological weapon. Like, an artillery shell leaked or something. But they were doing illegal gain of function research for a bio-weapon project of some kind. That's why DARPA denied them funding in the first place.
The spike protein spike the shot makes your cells put out is pathogenetic all on its own, so yea, the jab does damage all on its own.
We knew early on that old people were a million-fold more at risk than young people.
But the recommendation came down that every adult should get the vaccine.
Clearly bullshit when everyone knew young adults who got the (worst) first versions of covid said it was milder than a hangover.
In Canada & the US, they quickly started recommending that anyone over SIX MONTHS of age started getting the jab.
I know anxious mothers who ran out to get their snotty-nosed daycare kids jabbed in hopes it would cut down on absenteeism.
I've been interested in reading various scientific papers for 15 years now on various topics that interest me, and so I was fairly well versed in detecting if a paper had poor methodology and what "p-hacking" looks like. For me it was obvious as fuck that the data wasn't supportive of the vaccine, but trying to explain this to my family was futile as I wasn't an accredited scientist it was impossible in spite of them always calling me smart and intelligent my entire life.
When 2x of the vaccine arm died vs the unvaccinated- and the manufacturers responded by : changing the endpoint to “infection- as decided by our private lab”
That’s realtime p-hacking and a bribed regulator.
That's what I kept standing on, the actual data didn't support them at all. Higher adverse outcomes for people that got it vs those that didn't.
The biggest con of the whole pandemic happened at the very beginning: the immediate shift from reporting Infection Fatality Rate to Case Fatality Rate. For most of recorded epidemic history, health authorities, governments, and media reported the IFR, which is based on the projected number of total infections. Because they correctly understood that the vast majority of cases in any covid-level epidemic go unreported.
For covid, everyone spontaneously switched to CFR - based on official cases - which generates a much higher and highly inaccurate fatality rate. Because official cases are also the most severe. Usually, the difference in fatality rates is 10x. So the “fatality rate” for covid went from 00.2% to 2%. Of course people got scared. 1 in 50 is a legitimately concerning number when half the people you know are testing positive (via rigged PCR tests).
Yeah all I needed to know was their precious illegals weren't being jabbed, let alone tested. You know, one group where it'd make sense to at least test (during a WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC they couldn't fearmonger enough about or demand you jab up for grandma).
Meanwhile, people were losing their jobs over a medical decision or being harassed for private medical paperwork to keep that paycheck.
That was one of the facts that sealed my desire to avoid the jab at all costs. What got me suspicious in the first place was noticing that most of the deaths were the elderly and people with preconditions, the mantra that cloth masks could reduce your risk of getting it, people "dying from covid" because they died in a car accident, the "fact" it had the same symptoms as the flu, and the "fact" you could have it with no symptoms.
And I still haven't seen 10M+ people die because they weren't jabbed (or because they were). Wonder where the goalposts are now today -- they'll be dead in 10 years? 20 maybe?
My favorite one: statistically zero flu cases during the height of the covid pandemic. But it totally wasn’t the flu.
Its really funny, because I had the Rona three times (only the first mattered) and I could tell easily that it wasn't the flu but at the same time was very similar to the times I had bronchitis. I in fact only learned I had the Rona because of mandatory testing when I went in thinking it was the bronchitis, and would have just assumed that was the case otherwise.
So that fact alone is solid evidence that they gave up any scientific rigor, or even bothering to test, any of the nearly identical and common illnesses during that time frame, just to fluff the numbers up.
The jabs weren’t cyanide. Why would people suddenly drop dead? It will take decades for the total impact of the vaxx to materialize in our statistics, and early returns are already pointing to substantial increases in infertility and all-cause mortality (from turbo cancers).
Borris Johnson flew over 150,000 migrants into the country... DURING LOCKDOWN.
That blew my fucking mind.
You may be referencing other comments he published, but distrust of government and big pharma is a VERY good reason.
Other good reasons are;
What killed me was when some idiot on Reddit tried to prove to me that the vaccine was effective, truth is he only cited an MSNBC news article.
In reality it was a study conducted by Pfizer themselves that said the injection was only effective at reducing the viral load of a patient with the Alpha strain by 30%. This equated to a minor reduction in symptoms, and no change in transmissibility. It was also ended early because all of the testers were immediately infected by the Delta strain, which the initial vaccine could not work against.
Retard didn't read the damn thing he sent me.
Meh, doesn't count since if he wasn't rapidly dying of cancer he wouldn't bother saying this. It's only because he's personally afflicted through his own actions he's trying for a deathbed confession.
Were he still fine would he extend the same consideration to others suffering non cancer related side effects of the totally safe and effective treatment? I doubt it.
The video here is from like 2023, so its not a deathbed confession, unless he has been hiding the cancer this entire time.
He saw the writing on the wall that literally no one was letting him live down Clott Adams, and tried to defang it with a very insincere "okay you were right, you happy now?" speech to make us look like the unreasonable ones for still harping on it.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/45Tqi-KYzDE/
As early as 2022 he alluded to a health complaint that was apparently so bad that he promised(!) he was going to kill himself in 1-2 years if it didn't get better (timestamp 51:50). The way he sandwiched this in between talk about antivaxxers 'winning' around that time suggests it was vaxx-related. He's pulling some doublethink fuckery at the moment - and by extension, has been doing so the whole time - by glossing over the connection between his general health and the covid shot, by hiding his cancer and by not talking about the course of his general health over the past 3 years. And as you said in the other thread it's all because he's sore about having 'lost' an internet argument, which he still frames as facts (him, but given the wrong facts) vs feels (antivaxxers, accidentally right).
Because he likes to play these little weasel games, its impossible to truly know. He is over 70, so its entirely possible to not only have multiple major health issues at once, but even have them independent of the vaxx.
But he staked his legacy to it, even going so far as to plant the seed for us to blame it for this cancer, so everyone is going to just say that was the case. And he will die and be known after as literally killing himself to prove the internet wrong.
To his credit though... most people who took it would not have admitted this even after finding out that for-sure any illness they've been afflicted with was directly caused by Injections.
But yeah, you're right in the reasoning behind his admission. Those kinds of people have too much faith in the current establishment and too much pride to say they are wrong, ever.
We did not "win". We were right and faired better. Winning would have meant stopping the madness before it got added to the children's pharma schedule, among other things.
Rare boomer introspection
he will be redeemed at the gates of heaven for his Niggerology takes
Scott's error was thinking a choice had to be made.
I just waited. And it became self evident the clot shot was retarded.
Where is the virus? It’s been 5 years. Where is the virus?
Bummer.
Dude has to have some cash, he should make these fuckers pay on the way out.
Yea, if I were him, with a terminal cancer diagnosis and lots of spare money, there are not a few people who would need to radically increase their security detail.
unpopular opinion incoming.
Seeing a lot of rationalization for “why I did” or “why I didn’t” , or “people were forced to” or “I was gonna lose my job” “muh family” etc etc
Nobody was fucking forced to. Everybody had a rationalization.
It’s no coincidence that The vaccine rate is 80% vax vs 20% non-vax. What statistical rule does that line up with? The Pareto principle.
If you’re in the 20% , congrats, you represent the part of the human race capable of non-conformance decision making.
If you’re in the 80%, sorry, you were always going to get vaxxed. So come up with whatever excuse you want about why you were compelled to : you are part of the consensus decision making population.