Euros on their way to cause another world war. Zelensky is very adamant that war must continue. This is the same midget that called for the use of nukes.
what are the odds the US acts like the adult in the room and backs out while Europe escalates the conflict? we have two of the world's biggest moats on our Western and Eastern flanks, we should just sit back and watch the fireworks.
...we should just sit back and watch the fireworks.
Should being the operative word. Historically speaking, our leaders haven't been able to help themselves. I have more faith in Trump, but it's certainly not complete; he gets roped into stupid shit sometimes too.
Really would be amazing (in a sad way) if Europe was buying their own narrative so much they went to war with Russia. You know, more so than they already have.
what would really be hilarious if they went to war with Russia while still being dependent on Russia's energy exports. at that point, I would hope for a full-on European revolution so that the populace can save themselves from their leader's idiocy.
What about trying to go to war with Russia when a third of your population would rather fight their own government and another third are foreigners with no loyalty to the nation whatsoever? What does that war even look like?
Isn’t it probable that the only reason we aren’t in a hot war with Russia is because internal numbers show that rural white men - who comprise most of the good military stock in the west - are more likely to revolt than go fight a war against other white Christian men in the name of gay diversity?
be hilarious if they went to war with Russia while still being dependent on Russia's energy exports.
I mean, Canada just threatened to nuke us via NATO. Their answer to getting out of reliance on the US is...to rely on an organization that relies on the US.
I'm hearing about this for the first time. Who was the politician with delusions of grandeur who made the threat? The ancestry you mentioned doesn't sound like Castro's son, which surprises me, because he would have been my first guess. Was it really Pollievre?
remember when canada honored a "Ukranian freedom fighter who defended the nation against russian aggression during WWII" (paraphrasing), and it turned out the dude was in a ukrainian SS division? his grandaughter made the comments...
It was Chrystia Freeland, second in the running to internally replace Trudeau as PM if he ever actually relinquishes power, who made the "we'll ally with European nations with nukes to deter American expansionism" delulu comments during the leadership campaign.
What are the odds that if WW3 does break out, the (((Globalists))) evacuate their rapefugees to safety and allow the native White to slaughter each other off into extinction? That would be a dream scenario for them, so don't write it off.
Should've done this in WW2, but your VIP lobby pushed you into a war so now to this day you're enjoying the fruits of your labor, all of this could've been prevented 80+ years ago.
I can't foresee any winning move by carrying on. Prior to today with US support, everything had reached a stalemate if you're being conservative about the situation. Now, if Europe decides to fund a war or put boots on the ground, all Trump and in particular, Xi has to do is announce tariffs and sanctions which will cripple the economy of any nation. Europe is reliant on LNG imports, manufactured goods from China (practically everything here has "Made in China" stamped on it) and minerals that are mined in China. Bear in mind China is wanting to be perceived as the peacemaker and neutral party. Where China goes, the BRICS countries will follow (bye bye Indian outsourcing and workers) and then the Middle Eastern countries will folow (bye bye remaining oil and gas).
European warmongering will not just bring forth the end of Ukraine but potentially the end of Europe too. I take no pleasure in saying this, I support peace, but looking at this pragmatically, I can't foresee any positive outcome for the continent. Particularly for the men forced into conscription and subsequently into the meat-grinder of war.
I've said it before: that's Zelenski's way of getting money.
He knows the US doesn't want to pay for his shit anymore. So he antagonizes the US as much as possible. The US then criticized him and European leaders, being as braindead as they are, immediately flip the "orange man bad" switch and jump in to pick up the tab to spite Trump.
There is a sizable subgroup of European, Canadian, and Australian “conservatives” who purport to hate what their leftist governments are doing to their nations… but somehow hate Trump even more. It’s like they would rather bond with the Marxists destroying their countries than support the nationalists trying to save America.
Holy shit, Zelenskyy™ is an arrogant little shit. And it's not the 'annoying but sort of badass arrogance.' It's completely baseless, whiny, and utterly pathetic.
Europe do NOT have the funds or military capability to aid Ukraine enough to stop them losing, especially if the US effectively pulls out.
They would try to make this 'Trump's Afghanistan ' but this is more on Zelensky as who the fuck argues with a guy representing a Super power, in front of media, in HIS office when he's about to sign a deal to save you.
You know whenever I was bored I would sometimes read some dumb reddit ragebait story about "toxic family members" who would always treat the OP in the story with such utter contempt even though the OP was funding their entire lifestyle.
I'd always roll my eyes at how fake the story was because I thought no one would be THAT stupid to antagonize the one person they are completely dependent on.
After today I see that some people are indeed THAT stupid.
Those stories and this have the same central theme.
The belief that they are the most important person in the room, and everyone else exists to cater to them unconditionally. For redditors its the parents who legally couldn't kick them out (and often don't want to emotionally after they can), while Zelly boy its because "wahhh muh war."
With that assumption in place, they feel safe in all sorts of tantrums that logically make no sense without them.
I used to work with a guy whose drug-addict sister was like that to him. And yet he'd still giver her absurd (5 figures) amounts of money. He knew he was enabling her, but he did it anyway.
I don't even think it's that they're stupid as much as they know the person they're dependent on is a pushover.
That said, the stupidity from Zelensky was failing to realize Trump isn't a pushover.
Zelensky didn't get to midget-boss his way into getting the USA to send infinity-money and troops?
Watch the media react as if the current army positions in the Russo-Ukraine war didn't happen under Biden. And never mention the Euromaidan coup was pushed by the USA funding it.
Everybody is for puppies and rainbows. I too would want Russia to get out of all of Ukraine and the 100k+ White men who were killed for no good reason to be alive today. Unfortunately negociations to end this war won't have Ukraine come out with everything it lost.
This is a good reminder that strong independance cannot rely on promisses and alliances. Ukraine ceded its nukes in exchange of guarantees of its territorial integrity. Had the UK honored its word, it would have its troops on the ground in Ukraine since Russia crossed the line.
Cannot skip this joke : The Oopa-Loompa orage make-up is not on the midget as it should.
P.S. : Reminder that when the media was asking France's President Macron to denounce Putin on TV, he replied like Trump that you don't go around insulting the person you are going to negociate with.
Democrats immediately jump in to claim Trump is a Russian asset again to legitimize bleeding Americans dry in a war that won't budge with the current ''just give all our money to Ukraine'' strategy. They want WWIII kind of military intervention is my guess.
It takes a truly special individual to try to renegotiate a deal on international television by ambush when you're the one begging for their help in the first place.
I guess sacrificing an entire generation of Ukrainian men for a war there was no fucking way they would win is a good way to ensure no one ousts Zelensky.
Imagine not even agreeing to a cease fire when you're on the side getting whooped.
I think Europe will be unable to pick up the war. Or even continue the support. France and England can threat with nukes.. for now.
Europe has invested everything in the Green revolution and immigration. All industry is reduced in production without any future nor energy. And even the farmers are getting cut.
They do not have any money, nor any meaningful army. Not even a single language. Instead they may have a famine and more crime from immigration.
The EU politicians have lots of unrealistic plans, and will push them forward until those plans fail.
But it could be part of their absurd plan. They are still planning the great reset, and for that to succeed, all money most become worthless. This will create an opportunity for social credit based currency. The communism in China is seen as an example.
I know this will become another "you'd be in jail" Trump zinger that goes nowhere. But allow me to engage in a little hopium:
Imagine Europe burning their rep in the defense of Ukraine to the point that they get the USAID treatment and the whole Euro project collapses. What an incredible irony that'd be.
thanks for pointing that out. It looks like zero hedge has been continuously updating the article, and the archive I grabbed was an older version. I've posted a more recent one.
If any European country or the EU gives a single penny to Ukraine, they'll find themselves on the wrong end of tariffs and sanctions from the rest of the world which will bankrupt their attempts to fund any war. In effect, yesterday was the beginning of the end of Ukraine. Ukraine knows it, which is why the indictment of Zelenskyy was demanded in Parliament when (or if!) he returns to currently Ukrainian soil. It's also looking as if it is the end of NATO as well, any allyship with Europe and a fundamental shift in geopolitics.
This is the decade where Europe finds itself isolated from the rest of the world with the likelihood that the UK and Germany become pariah states. By conservative estimates, by the end of the decade, all of what is currently Ukraine will be Russian territory. And the Ukrainians know it.
Yesterday was a historic day, but not for the reasons Zelenskyy, the EU, Starmer et al wanted.
Euros on their way to cause another world war. Zelensky is very adamant that war must continue. This is the same midget that called for the use of nukes.
what are the odds the US acts like the adult in the room and backs out while Europe escalates the conflict? we have two of the world's biggest moats on our Western and Eastern flanks, we should just sit back and watch the fireworks.
Should being the operative word. Historically speaking, our leaders haven't been able to help themselves. I have more faith in Trump, but it's certainly not complete; he gets roped into stupid shit sometimes too.
Really would be amazing (in a sad way) if Europe was buying their own narrative so much they went to war with Russia. You know, more so than they already have.
what would really be hilarious if they went to war with Russia while still being dependent on Russia's energy exports. at that point, I would hope for a full-on European revolution so that the populace can save themselves from their leader's idiocy.
What about trying to go to war with Russia when a third of your population would rather fight their own government and another third are foreigners with no loyalty to the nation whatsoever? What does that war even look like?
Isn’t it probable that the only reason we aren’t in a hot war with Russia is because internal numbers show that rural white men - who comprise most of the good military stock in the west - are more likely to revolt than go fight a war against other white Christian men in the name of gay diversity?
At this point, Russia conquering Europe would probably save it
Would it be beyond the pale to say EU could stage a 9/11 just to convince both groups to jump into the meat grinder?
I mean, Canada just threatened to nuke us via NATO. Their answer to getting out of reliance on the US is...to rely on an organization that relies on the US.
They're not sending their best.
The leadership candidate who wants to defend Canada with European nukes just happens to be the descendant of Ukrainian Nazis.
I'm hearing about this for the first time. Who was the politician with delusions of grandeur who made the threat? The ancestry you mentioned doesn't sound like Castro's son, which surprises me, because he would have been my first guess. Was it really Pollievre?
remember when canada honored a "Ukranian freedom fighter who defended the nation against russian aggression during WWII" (paraphrasing), and it turned out the dude was in a ukrainian SS division? his grandaughter made the comments...
It was Chrystia Freeland, second in the running to internally replace Trudeau as PM if he ever actually relinquishes power, who made the "we'll ally with European nations with nukes to deter American expansionism" delulu comments during the leadership campaign.
They're going to. I saw a story about Germany discussing increasing Russian natural gas imports.
A lot of their energy is bought from Russia even after the tariffs. They just buy it from the US, who buys it from India, who buys it from Russia.
What are the odds that if WW3 does break out, the (((Globalists))) evacuate their rapefugees to safety and allow the native White to slaughter each other off into extinction? That would be a dream scenario for them, so don't write it off.
Should've done this in WW2, but your VIP lobby pushed you into a war so now to this day you're enjoying the fruits of your labor, all of this could've been prevented 80+ years ago.
"Yes, we caused a nuclear holocaust, but could you imagine how bad things would be if we let the orange cheeto win?"
Europe Not Starting Another World War Challenge: Impossible
I can't foresee any winning move by carrying on. Prior to today with US support, everything had reached a stalemate if you're being conservative about the situation. Now, if Europe decides to fund a war or put boots on the ground, all Trump and in particular, Xi has to do is announce tariffs and sanctions which will cripple the economy of any nation. Europe is reliant on LNG imports, manufactured goods from China (practically everything here has "Made in China" stamped on it) and minerals that are mined in China. Bear in mind China is wanting to be perceived as the peacemaker and neutral party. Where China goes, the BRICS countries will follow (bye bye Indian outsourcing and workers) and then the Middle Eastern countries will folow (bye bye remaining oil and gas).
European warmongering will not just bring forth the end of Ukraine but potentially the end of Europe too. I take no pleasure in saying this, I support peace, but looking at this pragmatically, I can't foresee any positive outcome for the continent. Particularly for the men forced into conscription and subsequently into the meat-grinder of war.
Zelensky looked disgusting, nipples protruding from his black shirt before the White House, very very disrespectful.
Fucking disgrace didn't even bother to wear a suit.
I've said it before: that's Zelenski's way of getting money.
He knows the US doesn't want to pay for his shit anymore. So he antagonizes the US as much as possible. The US then criticized him and European leaders, being as braindead as they are, immediately flip the "orange man bad" switch and jump in to pick up the tab to spite Trump.
He's playing the Euro-cucks like a fiddle.
Did anyone promise him money? Because while the fiddle is played, the tip jar is empty.
not sure how much cash. but almost all eu leaders are (and 100% of canada’s uniparty) are tweeting how much they love ukraine.
I suppose he'll get paid in exposure.
There is a sizable subgroup of European, Canadian, and Australian “conservatives” who purport to hate what their leftist governments are doing to their nations… but somehow hate Trump even more. It’s like they would rather bond with the Marxists destroying their countries than support the nationalists trying to save America.
It was glorious.
Holy shit, Zelenskyy™ is an arrogant little shit. And it's not the 'annoying but sort of badass arrogance.' It's completely baseless, whiny, and utterly pathetic.
Can't stand the dude.
All I could think of watching it was the exchange between Caesar and Ptolemy from Rome:
The Nubian footstool is a nice touch.
Europe do NOT have the funds or military capability to aid Ukraine enough to stop them losing, especially if the US effectively pulls out.
They would try to make this 'Trump's Afghanistan ' but this is more on Zelensky as who the fuck argues with a guy representing a Super power, in front of media, in HIS office when he's about to sign a deal to save you.
You know whenever I was bored I would sometimes read some dumb reddit ragebait story about "toxic family members" who would always treat the OP in the story with such utter contempt even though the OP was funding their entire lifestyle.
I'd always roll my eyes at how fake the story was because I thought no one would be THAT stupid to antagonize the one person they are completely dependent on.
After today I see that some people are indeed THAT stupid.
Those stories and this have the same central theme.
The belief that they are the most important person in the room, and everyone else exists to cater to them unconditionally. For redditors its the parents who legally couldn't kick them out (and often don't want to emotionally after they can), while Zelly boy its because "wahhh muh war."
With that assumption in place, they feel safe in all sorts of tantrums that logically make no sense without them.
I used to work with a guy whose drug-addict sister was like that to him. And yet he'd still giver her absurd (5 figures) amounts of money. He knew he was enabling her, but he did it anyway.
I don't even think it's that they're stupid as much as they know the person they're dependent on is a pushover.
That said, the stupidity from Zelensky was failing to realize Trump isn't a pushover.
Zelensky didn't get to midget-boss his way into getting the USA to send infinity-money and troops?
Watch the media react as if the current army positions in the Russo-Ukraine war didn't happen under Biden. And never mention the Euromaidan coup was pushed by the USA funding it.
Everybody is for puppies and rainbows. I too would want Russia to get out of all of Ukraine and the 100k+ White men who were killed for no good reason to be alive today. Unfortunately negociations to end this war won't have Ukraine come out with everything it lost.
This is a good reminder that strong independance cannot rely on promisses and alliances. Ukraine ceded its nukes in exchange of guarantees of its territorial integrity. Had the UK honored its word, it would have its troops on the ground in Ukraine since Russia crossed the line.
Cannot skip this joke : The Oopa-Loompa orage make-up is not on the midget as it should.
P.S. : Reminder that when the media was asking France's President Macron to denounce Putin on TV, he replied like Trump that you don't go around insulting the person you are going to negociate with.
Democrats immediately jump in to claim Trump is a Russian asset again to legitimize bleeding Americans dry in a war that won't budge with the current ''just give all our money to Ukraine'' strategy. They want WWIII kind of military intervention is my guess.
Should have thrown the midget in jail until he coughed up all the money he was given.
Make it a work camp, have the cokehead do some work for a change.
If Zelensky wants another meeting in the White House, Trump should require that he wear a Tweedle-dee hat.
It takes a truly special individual to try to renegotiate a deal on international television by ambush when you're the one begging for their help in the first place.
I guess sacrificing an entire generation of Ukrainian men for a war there was no fucking way they would win is a good way to ensure no one ousts Zelensky.
Imagine not even agreeing to a cease fire when you're on the side getting whooped.
I think Europe will be unable to pick up the war. Or even continue the support. France and England can threat with nukes.. for now.
Europe has invested everything in the Green revolution and immigration. All industry is reduced in production without any future nor energy. And even the farmers are getting cut.
They do not have any money, nor any meaningful army. Not even a single language. Instead they may have a famine and more crime from immigration.
The EU politicians have lots of unrealistic plans, and will push them forward until those plans fail.
But it could be part of their absurd plan. They are still planning the great reset, and for that to succeed, all money most become worthless. This will create an opportunity for social credit based currency. The communism in China is seen as an example.
Does that man not own a single suit?
I guess since he’s playing the role of a bum perpetually begging for/demanding money, he wants to commit to the look.
Zelensky somehow had more decorum in 2016 playing the piano with his wang
All he needed to do was shut up and sign the deal and he would have gotten more aid. And he couldn’t even do that
I know this will become another "you'd be in jail" Trump zinger that goes nowhere. But allow me to engage in a little hopium:
Imagine Europe burning their rep in the defense of Ukraine to the point that they get the USAID treatment and the whole Euro project collapses. What an incredible irony that'd be.
the full 53 minute video shows zelensky in an even worse light.
He kept attacking Trump and Vance because he wants to suck up to Europe and Canada (maybe one of his villas are there)
Europe could match the cash. They would have to dispense with various "social' programs to do so, so they won't.
Does Ukraine even have all these supposed "$500 billion dollars" worth of rare minerals?
There was an article on ZeroHedge within past weeks credibly questioning this.
All of this is political theater; there's a reason why Russia has been insistent on Ukrainian elections as a prerequisite / core item for any treaty.
About time someone tells this little jewish cokehead a simple ''no, get fucked'', shame Zonald's attitude is a complete 180 with Bibi.
archive: https://archive.is/3KpKB
EDIT: more up to date archive: https://archive.is/qMlCC
I'm not sure if it's intentional, but the OP and archive are different ZH articles
thanks for pointing that out. It looks like zero hedge has been continuously updating the article, and the archive I grabbed was an older version. I've posted a more recent one.
If any European country or the EU gives a single penny to Ukraine, they'll find themselves on the wrong end of tariffs and sanctions from the rest of the world which will bankrupt their attempts to fund any war. In effect, yesterday was the beginning of the end of Ukraine. Ukraine knows it, which is why the indictment of Zelenskyy was demanded in Parliament when (or if!) he returns to currently Ukrainian soil. It's also looking as if it is the end of NATO as well, any allyship with Europe and a fundamental shift in geopolitics.
This is the decade where Europe finds itself isolated from the rest of the world with the likelihood that the UK and Germany become pariah states. By conservative estimates, by the end of the decade, all of what is currently Ukraine will be Russian territory. And the Ukrainians know it.
Yesterday was a historic day, but not for the reasons Zelenskyy, the EU, Starmer et al wanted.
This is what I voted for!
I am proud of Trump and Vance