I'm sure everyone has seen the footage floating around of missiles hitting Israel.
All I have to say is that, when it's all over, I hope there's nobody left on either side still capable of shaking down the US for "aid".
Yeah, I know, it'll never happen. But one must remain optimistic.
Oh look, my tax dollars are shooting at my tax dollars again
I want my tax dollars back.
How dare you, bigot. How dare you. Those dollars are being spent in a wise, intelligent, beneficial way. Lining the pockets of every defense contractor in the U.S.
The missiles coming from Iran are not 'your tax dollars'. It's their money that the US stole using sanctions.
The Israeli propaganda has gotten so ridiculous that even AoV is countering it.
It's American propaganda. I don't like a bunch of imperialists in Washington trying to control the world because the world has made its no-good financial system its single point of failure.
If they destroy each other, isnt that in the US's best interest?
5D backgammon?
I feel like this is a bad use of my tax dollars.
And your neighbors will have to clean it up and become the blood sponge.
All I have to say is that Iran is completely justified to hold Rule16istan to their own policies. If they didn't want civilians to be hurt, the IDF should stop using women and children as shields. If it's a good enough excuse for them to indiscriminately bomb Gaza, then it's a good enough excuse for Iran to indiscriminately bomb Tel-Aviv.
This. I don't care for Iran in the slightest but Israel has been fucking with them for a while now. You keep poking somebody don't be surprised when they hit you in the face.
It's October on an election year. Time for the October "surprise".
'cept this is probably the least surprising thing that's happened this year.
exactly
Is false flag school shooting on your election bingo card?
That would be the free square.
I think the October surprise was supposed to be a peace deal. It would honestly not surprise me if they fucked this up this badly.
I think it's finding a way for Joe to be a war president to ease Kumswala's coronation. They might still pull that one off.
just hope it doesn't escalate. The US felates Israel and Iran is buddy-buddy with US adversaries. this could snowball into a world war.
It's been a world war since the election was stolen. The rest of the world didn't go deaf and blind and just fail to notice that the United States is completely lawless now.
I suspect that's someone's plan.
The alternative is that Israel is so bloodthirsty and retarded that it thought it could just take a swing at every neighboring country with no meaningful retaliation.
They're being aggressive because they are afraid of potentially losing support from the US. Young people do not support Israel. Although this doesn't matter much in terms of voting because our politicians do what they want, it's going to cause problems with staffing our military and intelligence agencies.
Obviously, when you are the big kid on the block, you can. Look at how the US has been taking a swing at every country in the world with no meaningful retaliation.
Don't worry, that'll be changing soon. Our military power is collapsing and our nation has been steadily getting invaded for decades.
I guess it's too much to hope for those hook-nosed freaks to be wiped off the map.
I pray everyday for it
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If Israel is destroyed I consider it a win - nothing less
Haha, no one left on either side, given the fact that pretty much all of the missiles were intercepted and I have reports of no casualties on the Israeli side, I think this is more a one sided war.
Apart from October 7th attack which seems to have gone further than it should, it seems the Israelis played the arab side BAD and are probably taking the territory when this is done. They have technological, strategic and logistical supremacy and gutted the command structures of most of their enemies (as got a suspicion that them blowing up devices wasn't FIRST done with Lebanon if you remember a certain helicopter crash)
So now that's done, Europe NEEDS to copy Egypt and deny ANYONE running from this that ain't a fully native citizen to it's country access to Europe even if that means blowing up boats.
Israel is lying. You can go on X and watch videos of a dozen missiles impacting the same target in succession. Just like Ukraine, Israel simply makes up their air defense numbers. On video they're getting rekt.
I've seen those videos and it doesn't look like much damage. When Israel bombs places you can immediately see the damage. We'll have to wait and see. Israel's response will indicate what the truth is.
Israel is deliberately bombing civilian targets to kill as many people as possible. They want it to escalate into full blown war so they can drag the US into it and make them do the dirty work.
Iran doesn't want to escalate and avoids casualties. Israel would have been overwhelmed by Irans first response too if it weren't for several countries defending their airspace.
Also Israel is very strict when it comes to military censorship so you won't see videos of the resulting damage and they sure as hell won't publish how effective Irans strike actually was. Israel is a paper tiger that is completely dependent on the US and they know it.
I do believe Iran doesn't want to escalate, but do you seriously believe that Israel is "trying to kill as many people as possible"? If so, they're very incompetent because even a blind man could kill more.
As many as possible without killing off all the support they still have in the US/EU. And they're failing at that.
ah yes, the stormfag brigade opinion. If they wanted to kill people, they'd just nuke iran and be done with it. What a retard.
There you are again. So what is your stance on HIAS, AIPAC and the ADL?
No idea what that is
I hate all bullshit like that, israels lobby is no exception.
Shitstirrers and they shouldn't ever be taken seriously by anyone.
What's your point?
Oh you know, one of the main organisations that are flooding the US with illegal immigrants. The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. Name sounds pretty Iranian doesn't it?
Funny how you supposedly hate the by far most powerful lobby in the US which pretty much has every single noteworthy politician in their pockets but at the same time defend Israel to your last drop of blood.
Again one of the most influential organisations in the US. Jewish once again.
Now we could talk about Hollywood, the hardcore porn industry, music industry, international finance and many more but I suppose all of that is just a coincidence. I'm just a communist stormfag after all.
He sounds more like an Arab Islamic apologist.
I just prefer Arabs and generally Muslims to remain in their own countries. Because then I don't have to give a shit about them. But if a certain country deliberately destabilizes the region since its inception and members of their tribe use their influence to send the resulting refugees to my country I can't exactly be supportive of that now can I?
That's what they all end up doing, because the muslims totally won't come for us ever! (just ignore that they have many times, and their entire history is about conquest, and the invading muslims in the west now)
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Israel isn't a paper tiger per say, they are very effective in a defensive war (although how much was that modern Israeli equipment vs stripped down Soviet export models from the 50-60s?) but they simply lack the population to hold down any more expanded territory. Any serious war against Iran or Iraq, they get steamrolled due to the numbers issue.
No, they're not. The only defensive war they've ever fought was the Yom-Kippur war and that ended with Egypt regaining its territory and getting paid off by the US till this day. Every war they've ever won was because Arabs were poorly equipped and poorly trained and Israel had a shitton of help from the US and Europe or because they attacked without any provocation.
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I've seen those videos and I can't tell at all.
But I'm going to assume that a missile barrage that's capable of defeating the "iron dome" is capable of hitting a useful target.
I wouldn't ever want to underestimate Persians.
If I was Iran I would be testing the Iron Dome, so would send a bunch of missiles to get shot down as cover for the ones with effective countermeasures that I would aim at empty fields to make them look like failures. Even have them self-destruct once they got through the Dome.
You can't test the Dome without a pretext and knowing how to defeat defenses is way more valuable than actually doing it because then you can do it at a time of your choosing and the enemy doesn't prepare.
Missiles seem to be a poor strategy overall. At the same time there was an old-fashioned terror attack in Tel-Aviv that killed 6 and wounded a dozen.
I'd imagine what we'll see is ballistic missiles that release a thousand drones each instead of a massive blast.
Small drones can be incredibly effective, but getting them into the area is the hard part.
Iran doesn't have that capability, know why? The US, Russia and China don't have that as if they did they'd be showing it off like the biggest dick in the changing room.
Think about ALL the things you have to do to make that work, first is just getting the missile to work, then securing the payload of drones, then having said drone be remotely controlled over long distance easily.
That's the baseline, how the fuck are they going to work after being launched at terminal velocity, suddenly released at high speed and not just smash into the ground? You're better off investing in Japan's railguns where their main issue is power supply.
I don't believe that for a minute. Do you know how easy it would be to have drones self destruct? Hell even have them embedded with a code to take it and explode in a very specific place. Meanwhile we are importing Chinese drones like they are democrat voters.
It would be easier to simply rig explosives to pagers like Israel did than do any of that shit.
Having a missile full of drones shot at another country, you're better of with cyber warfare targeting critical infrastructure or just sneaking on a few crazies into the enemy country, why was resources on something that has a good chance of either not working or being intercepted?
What he described is mere engineering and not nearly as difficult to deploy as a railgun.
It sounds like there's enough moving components that it would go wrong especially when there's enough of a travel distance to reach the target.
"The Cluster Swarm involved drones packed into the Army’s existing GMLRS rockets, which carry a 180-pound payload and have a range of over 70 kilometers, or ATACMS missiles that carry a 350-pound payload over 270 kilometers" (similar in capability to Iran's missiles fired on Israel).
This is just from a casual one minute search. Apparently DoD doesn't think it's a crazy idea.
While drones are harder to deploy than cluster bomb, they make everything in the country a potential target. The devastation they can cause is really only limited by our humanity. A drone blinding anybody that looks in its general direction with high power lasers probably won't happen because even the Dick Cheneys of the world are not that evil, not because it's difficult.
Of course eventually Israel will have anti-drone devices blanketing their entire country to automatically shoot down drones, but probably not until after they suffer a debilitating drone attack.
You have no idea what capabilities the US has, because we absolutely do not show them off. The F-117 was kept black for decades before it was officially acknowledged. And they only admitted its existence because it was going into combat where everybody was going to see it.
Their missile strikes didn't do shit against a US base in Iraq causing moderate damage and no deaths.
After shooting down a civilian airliner.
I think it's safe to underestimate them.
The US helps em shoot down missiles and will prevent Iran from flying, but the US won't help them on the ground. They can bomb ad much as they want but at some point you have to claim the rubble to claim to have made a ground incursion.
This is how I see it. Israel has mostly decimated the Arabs. Guess years of US pouring weapons into Israel paid off. Iran's strikes were mostly worthless. IMO, if Iran continues to be this weak, Israel might be convinced to take this further.
Iran looks weak: now is the time to attack!
Iran looks strong: we need to attack before they do!
MIGA conservatives: why would Iran do this?
All lines of reasoning lead to war in the neocon line of 'thinking'.
Ukraine wins a victory: we need to send them more aid to help them win!
Ukraine is losing: quick, send them more aid before they lose completely!
Not just that, the 'Arab spring' mostly did that. Like the Iraq war before it, the West removed or diminished a dictator that had control and created a power vacuum wasting the resources and military power of that nation.
If the Arab spring never happened then both the migrant crisis and current war wouldn't have either.
Reports of Mossad headquarters being destroyed. I hope dom is ok. Well, no, not really.
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I think it's mostly a joke.
Also, I'm not israeli.
I'm a dragon
“Iran retaliates against Israel”
Ftfy
Recently Bibi was bragging "Iran will soon be free" so yeah, false flag maybe?
They want war so bad they'll blow up skycrapers to get it....
I kinda doubt they need to false flag shit themselves when they can realistically just provoke their neighbors until they get the military response they know they deserve.
Let the sandbox do sandbox things.
Since this site has driven away anyone who has the opinion i have, I'll say this for the sake of someone who might also feel discoyraged seeing all the Jew and Israel hatred.
I support Israel and the Jews.
Israel is the only nation on earth where they can be surrounded by enemies on all sides hell bent on their destruction, and if Israel causes their enemy to scratch their knee in retaliation, they get chastised for not accepting their destruction with passive dignity. Im sick of it. None of you would oppose sending funding to Taiwan who is being threatened by China.
Listen to the song the neighborhood bully....this has been the case for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUq0Qc7PNXA
And here's the lyrics
https://genius.com/Bob-dylan-neighborhood-bully-lyrics
The liberal atheistic academic "progressive" Jews are also anti-Zionist and pro Palestine.
The orthodox conservative Jews who are pro-Israel also tend to be pro Trump and pro semi-decency.
What you're seeing with the super woke anti-white American Jews is the same commie mind infection that has its grips on every group who belongs to the "elites".
Yet Jew and Israel haters lump them in as if theyre the same group.
That'd be like disparaging white people because of white effeminate faggy antifa college soyboys.
This isn't true. Plenty of American Jews are White-hating leftists but then still support Israel. That's the whole MO of the ADL, for instance. Hollywood is also full of them. Ethan Klein is another good example. I don't understand how people still don't catch this. The duplicitous shrieking about White people being privileged racists followed by calls to flatten Gaza are one of their worst behaviors.
Orthodox Judaism is a putrid dog shit religion that teaches that gentiles are subhuman beasts with no souls. They also tend to be huge welfare queens (see Kiryas Joel). Do you have any idea what you're defending?
Despite some Jews being conservative, we have minimal overlap with their policy goals. For example, look at the RJC's agenda.
Look how "domestic policies" is slapped onto the end, behind a bunch of Jew-specific shit. It's as if they almost forgot to pretend to give a shit about America.
I know that Jews consider Gentiles sub-human.
Muslims kill Christians for being Infedels, Communists kill Christians for being subversive to the state, black people want whitey to be killed and view them as the devil.
Welcome to the whole world of unbelievers who dont have the Holy Spirit.
Why Jews get singled out is a Spiritual issue that ignores much of the Bible to justify their anti-Israel stance which is a spiritually dangerous stance.
The anti-Christ and his army will be gathered against Israel in Gog and Magog at armageddon.
Paul explains in Romans 9 I believe that Gods covenant promise with Israel is not nullified and there will be a repenting and restoration of the Jews and Israel will be vindicated against its enemies and that gentile believers shouldnt be conceited about our current position lest we be cut off of the branches that we were grafted on to.
Then why the fuck do you support them?
Oh, you're one of those. Israel worshipping isn't a normal part of Christianity, I'm sorry to tell you.
You’re a gay person.
I would. We have enough shit to deal with at home before our government hands out the money they steal from us. Also, lol to everything else. Israel are the bullies, there's a reason they've been kicked out of so many countries.
Israel is a country, it hasn't been kicked out of any country.
Taiwan doesn't have all of our politicians in their pocket, neither did they use their lobbying power to make criticizing and boycotting them illegal in 30 states and counting, and they certainly didn't entertain implementing DNA requirements as part of obtaining citizenship there. They also didn't sell American technology secrets to the Chinese, nor send weapons obtained by American foreign aid to countries with their own axe to grind (see also: majority-Muslim Azerbaijan's invasion of majority-Christian Armenia), nor openly attack an American warship with zero consequences (USS Liberty).
The Nation-State of Israel (specifically spelled out to differentiate from the Kingdom of Israel of the Old Testament ~3000 years ago) has done all these things and more, and you should know that the time of the Democrats and NeoCon warhawks selling our country to foreign interests (China, Ukraine, and especially Israel) will be coming to an end, and that it will good thing for Americans in the long run.
lol
So naive.
Being a passive-aggressive ass isn't going to win you any points, Tony. Either give me examples or STFU.
https://archive.is/fcJCB
Ok, so I read through that article.
I want my time back.
Ignoring all of the fluff that every fucking urinalist seems to think is a necessary component of their storytelling, all I learned was that there are some (unnamed) politicians in the US that agree with Taiwan on some things. And some of them are in red states and some are in blue states.
Oh wow, in a situation where nearly every reasonable person agrees with Taiwan on many things, some US politicians also agree with them. What a revelation!
I feel dumber for having read it, and not because it opened up a world of information that I was previously clueless about.
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This is how they say "Thank You" in Israel.
https://scored.co/c/KotakuInAction2/p/17rmJXusOW/the-west-should-welcome-gaza-ref/c
I'll support nuking Israel before I support taking one rapefugee from Gaza.
The 1500 Christians are welcome.
I doubt that very much. Even the more intelligent of the anti-Israel people don't hate Jews as a people.
I oppose funding Taiwan but support funding Israel. Taiwan is not separate from China, no more than Ukraine is separate from Russia. The difference here is that Taiwan is a highly successful state and does right by its people, while Ukraine is a total mess.
I hope Israel decides they've had enough, find their balls, and fuck up iran enough that they can't threaten anyone ever again.
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This isn't what this rule is for.
I still hope for less than a million dead.
I don't hate these people generally, I just don't them to have my money.
so if someone gives a dollar to a beggar it's the beggar's fault?
Why would you characterize the people who openly boast about controlling our elections as “beggars”?
Don’t answer that, btw.
I think you must have missed or misinterpreted the "shaking down" bit.
And even without it, one person robbing another and then "giving" it to a third (with kickbacks to the family and friends of the original thief) isn't exactly "giving a dollar to a beggar."
yeah i know, but i mean, you could cut out all the foreign aid, but washington would still find a way to launder that money to themselves and benefit the same people in the end
Good.