Actor, comedian and singer Black said today: “I was blindsided by what was said at the show on Sunday. I would never condone hate speech or encourage political violence in any form. After much reflection, I no longer feel it is appropriate to continue the Tenacious D tour, and all future creative plans are on hold. I am grateful to the fans for their support and understanding.”
Whatever the motivation behind those words it's the classy thing to do. And it set's a line of what is acceptable and unacceptable going forward.
And he didn't double down. Which makes him leaps and bounds better than most with TDS these days.
I'm gonna be the bigger man here (fat chance) and say good on Jack Black.
I’m going to guess that Black’s stance has less to do with his thoughts on political violence and far more to do with wanting to not get fired from the next mario movie. Hell he might even drop KG from the band and replace him with Chris Pratt, rebrand as the dixie cucks
But I agree that it’s good he’s not inflaming things further
I actually made a post, just before the site overloaded and shut down (so most probably missed it), where I predict this event indicates a massive shift in narrative and a coming sea change in the popular consciousness. This may be the moment that the pendulum reaches its apex and begins its backswing. I could easily see this as the beginning of the end of the woke/dei/esg madness (atleast the popular acceptance), landslide shift red in the house and senate along with trump. So I absolutely agree, the window is in the process of its biggest shift in decades.
see, even that is a huge sea change in hollywood, though. Jack Black likely will lose some jobs for apologizing, but if he thinks he'll lose his career if he *doesn't apologize is a massive cultural shift in and of itself.
Yeah. At least he is somewhat smart about it. Minimum 51% of usa supports trump. Makes zero sense to alienate and antagonize 51%. Nintendo and movie publishers probably not too happy to make more than half the potential customers angry.
Oh yeah I saw this after making my comment, so I deleted it. Although this is the first time I’ve seen him do something like this, it’s enough. Tenacious D is dead to me.
Channeling the spirit of his hero, Karl Marx, with that beard. That, or maybe a lifetime of drugs and alcohol have finally caught up to him and ravaged his once boyish face.
You'd have to admit, it would be fucking hilarious if all this was true, though: 1. Jack Black is a closet anti-leftist. 2. His crazy ass partner did blindside him with this stupid shit. 3. He's also an active member on kotakuinaction2.win
I don't know about that - they were getting 9000 to each gig which is about right for the venues they booked. I saw them back in the day and the crowd was about 10,000 then. Pick of Destiny Tour I think.
Here's the thing, it at least sees which ones will do their best to stay above water, that means they're the ones who are the least of a threat to us.
It sounds like Jack didn't want to lose gigs, I've never heard him state radical opinions consistently like cunts like Kathy Griffon does. Maybe he did some normie shit supporting burn loot murder, etc. But at this point he probably was surprised his band mate had the balls to do it.
They lost a lot of their own money financing Pick of Destiny Movie - I'm not sure how well Gass would have recovered from that - I'm assuming Black would have what with Jumanji, Kung Fu Panda etc
This feels like a typical leftist friend abandoning you the second there’s heat. He could’ve pushed Kyle to apologize, he could have said he doesn’t condone it, he could have apologized on both their behalf and play it as a mistake the band made not just Kyle, but instead he dumped his friend 100%z
I remember seeing some interview with these guys where Kyle Gass was making comments about how broke he was compared to Jack Black and how he was just riding his coattails. So he really fucked himself over here; I bet he needed the money from this and Black definitely didn’t.
I don't know how much of Tenacious D is Kyle Gass and how much is Jack Black but he should thank his fucking stars Jack Black is bro enough not to move on and kept the band going for 30 years.
Every cent of royalty from CD and itunes he gets from his quarterlies post-2005 when Jack Black started getting 3-5 roles a year he owes to Jack being a fucking bro.
Classic case of man looking into another man's bowl.
Black has an entire career and Tenacious D was just a side part of that. It might have been his passion, but if it died he wouldn't lose a thing about his lifestyle or the rest of his career.
KG literally only had the band keeping his name in people's mouth. I think he was in some little projects outside the TD movie/series, but he is nothing without it.
I went to the tenacious d subreddit, all the aussies who are in the next cities on tour, particularly the ones who flew in for it. They are complaining, and about cancelling yeah. It's more about RW hypocrisy on that and it causing a cancel, as opposed to complaints cancel culture as a whole. That might take a few more toys being taken from them.
I'm actually glad Jack did the cancelling himself. It's like a partial punishment to the leftists (Australia is infested with them) to remind them even if it's not "your guy" that does it, you will still suffer for it.
Just think about this: if Trump was cold clocked by the dude instead of shot, Black would probably be cheering it on. But since Dems are supposed to value ALL life or some stupid shit, cheering the death of someone, even Trump, short circuits their programming. Now they need to do damage control because they look like vile vindictive fools. Even more so than usual
A normal person would have given an apology and it would have been accepted if it were genuine. What's happening here is Hollywood told Jack if he likes making Hollywood money he'll shut his tour down to make this blow over.
During a performance in Sydney on Sunday, Gass was asked to make a wish by his co-frontman, replying “Don’t miss Trump next time”. The jibe has attracted plenty of criticism, with an Australian senator demanding the comedy-rock band be deported.
For me, it's not that he made a dark joke, but that Kyle got snared in the lame ass Fahrenheit 451 style manufactured hate. So much for "sticking it to the man", rock n' roll's euphemism for non-conformity that their movie was a PG-13 comedy about. In a more just world, every American susceptible to TDS (or its reverse, unironic trump Idolatry) would be ostracized from enlightened society, or at the very least pre-filtered from voting by an earned franchise.
Haven't seen them this much on their back foot since shortly after 9/11. Which isn't saying much, but normally this would not happen.
They get comfortable saying this shit, then when something bad happens they have to be reminded that actually normal people are horrified when you tell them they "deserved" that bad thing that happened because they're normal people doing normal stuff.
You want to get some annoying shitlibs fired/reprimanded, now is the time to do it.
Eh, I watched it. Gross, inappropriate, poorly timed--yes. I couldn't tell if Jack Black was or was not surprised from the clip I watched. The audience clearly didn't mind (ugh). I'd be fully satisfied if Kyle said something like "It's no surprise that I dislike Trump, I got wrapped up in the moment, and I said something that was really dumb and inappropriate. I crossed a line and I'm sorry."
I think if we are all honest with ourselves, we could understand getting wrapped up and heated and then saying shit that's incredibly over the line and we should not ever say.
But, these people wouldn't ever offer us the same courtesy or second chances, so I don't think we owe them a moment of mercy in return.
There's several principals here: Jack Black, Kyle Gass, and the Audience.
Jack Black may be forgiven, as he didn't say it and disavowed it (eventually). Kyle, if you're exceedingly tolerant and he issues a reasonable apology and explanation.
But the audience laughing cannot be forgiven - they most of all need to suffer consequences. Their beloved band should never play again. Tenacious D should be nuclear waste where people are shunned for saying they listen to it, certainly that it's their favorite band.
I'm beginning to think the decision to cancel the tour wasn't his, he's just getting ahead of it in an attempt to save face. Venue owners are likely the ones making this call. They don't want him coming if that's part of his show.
There has got to be some behind closed door meltdown, that's the vibe I'm getting. We won't hear about it until VH1 behind the music does a piece on them in 2035.
To be honest I'd have a hard time believing such an apology would be genuine.
Wanting someone murdered is such an extreme view. There is so much momentum behind the thought processes that lead to it, It would be hard to do a 180 in such a short time frame.
Ill give Jack Black the benefit of the doubt though.
actors have shit political opinions, this is a universal truth. being public figures, when they go too far, such as condone the attempted assassination of someone, a struggle session is in order.
but, their brand of humor is pretty apolitical. I enjoyed it tenacious D back in the day myself, and I'm unsurprised that politically speaking they are batshit crazy. all of them are.
Whatever the motivation behind those words it's the classy thing to do. And it set's a line of what is acceptable and unacceptable going forward.
And he didn't double down. Which makes him leaps and bounds better than most with TDS these days.
I'm gonna be the bigger man here (fat chance) and say good on Jack Black.
My last name is not Black.
I’m going to guess that Black’s stance has less to do with his thoughts on political violence and far more to do with wanting to not get fired from the next mario movie. Hell he might even drop KG from the band and replace him with Chris Pratt, rebrand as the dixie cucks
But I agree that it’s good he’s not inflaming things further
That's still a better mentality than a lot in Hollywood, I'm not going to say inflammatory shit so I can get gigs.
See some people have actually lost their jobs already by praising the Trump assassination attempt so window has shifted a bit.
I actually made a post, just before the site overloaded and shut down (so most probably missed it), where I predict this event indicates a massive shift in narrative and a coming sea change in the popular consciousness. This may be the moment that the pendulum reaches its apex and begins its backswing. I could easily see this as the beginning of the end of the woke/dei/esg madness (atleast the popular acceptance), landslide shift red in the house and senate along with trump. So I absolutely agree, the window is in the process of its biggest shift in decades.
https://communities.win/c/KotakuInAction2/p/17teEQJZ3Z/last-weeks-debate-was-an-orchest/c
And here’s hoping we can treat the libtards in our lives as poorly as they treated us. If not worse.
There is no pendulum, only a ratchet.
Anything less than shipping fahgs and illegals overseas is not enough
And blacks and legals
That is ALL we ever want. Keep your insane politics to yourself, be an artist/actor/musician/etc first and foremost. I
loved Mark Hamill, even after the shit they did to him and some dumb takes but he just cannot help himself and keeps on pushing and pushing.
see, even that is a huge sea change in hollywood, though. Jack Black likely will lose some jobs for apologizing, but if he thinks he'll lose his career if he *doesn't apologize is a massive cultural shift in and of itself.
Yeah. At least he is somewhat smart about it. Minimum 51% of usa supports trump. Makes zero sense to alienate and antagonize 51%. Nintendo and movie publishers probably not too happy to make more than half the potential customers angry.
https://www.tiktok.com/@bidenhq/video/7381230109866380586?lang=en
TikTok, I know… but it’s the only copy I could find easily. Jack Black at a Biden Harris event.
I'm not surprised he's a Democrat, but I never seen him say insane shit like Kathy Griffon did.
If his mantra is to simply shut the fuck up and stay out of it, that's better than over half of Hollywood.
Oh yeah I saw this after making my comment, so I deleted it. Although this is the first time I’ve seen him do something like this, it’s enough. Tenacious D is dead to me.
Channeling the spirit of his hero, Karl Marx, with that beard. That, or maybe a lifetime of drugs and alcohol have finally caught up to him and ravaged his once boyish face.
LOL. Good stuff.
You'd have to admit, it would be fucking hilarious if all this was true, though: 1. Jack Black is a closet anti-leftist. 2. His crazy ass partner did blindside him with this stupid shit. 3. He's also an active member on kotakuinaction2.win
Truly the greatest timeline.
I wonder if the tour just wasn’t selling well and now it’s an excuse to bail out.
My dad loves Tenacious D and he didn’t know there was a tour
I don't know about that - they were getting 9000 to each gig which is about right for the venues they booked. I saw them back in the day and the crowd was about 10,000 then. Pick of Destiny Tour I think.
HHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........
He wasn’t blindsided - I’m sure he and Kyle were discussing the same sentiment before the concert.
But it’s nice to see the left feel the heat for once.
Lol, no hesitation at throwing his partner under the bus.
The fate of all shitlibs is to be consumed by their own.
Here's the thing, it at least sees which ones will do their best to stay above water, that means they're the ones who are the least of a threat to us.
It sounds like Jack didn't want to lose gigs, I've never heard him state radical opinions consistently like cunts like Kathy Griffon does. Maybe he did some normie shit supporting burn loot murder, etc. But at this point he probably was surprised his band mate had the balls to do it.
They lost a lot of their own money financing Pick of Destiny Movie - I'm not sure how well Gass would have recovered from that - I'm assuming Black would have what with Jumanji, Kung Fu Panda etc
Could have been worse. Could have thrown him under himself.
I'm guessing Nintendo and Universal Pictures screaming at him to "fix it!" on a conference call had something to do with it.
Nintendo, maybe. Universal Pictures? I'm gonna call BS on that.
This feels like a typical leftist friend abandoning you the second there’s heat. He could’ve pushed Kyle to apologize, he could have said he doesn’t condone it, he could have apologized on both their behalf and play it as a mistake the band made not just Kyle, but instead he dumped his friend 100%z
I remember seeing some interview with these guys where Kyle Gass was making comments about how broke he was compared to Jack Black and how he was just riding his coattails. So he really fucked himself over here; I bet he needed the money from this and Black definitely didn’t.
A guy like him probably has zero restraints when it comes to spending.
look at that belly!
I don't know how much of Tenacious D is Kyle Gass and how much is Jack Black but he should thank his fucking stars Jack Black is bro enough not to move on and kept the band going for 30 years.
Every cent of royalty from CD and itunes he gets from his quarterlies post-2005 when Jack Black started getting 3-5 roles a year he owes to Jack being a fucking bro.
Classic case of man looking into another man's bowl.
Black has an entire career and Tenacious D was just a side part of that. It might have been his passion, but if it died he wouldn't lose a thing about his lifestyle or the rest of his career.
KG literally only had the band keeping his name in people's mouth. I think he was in some little projects outside the TD movie/series, but he is nothing without it.
No there aren't. Those lawyers didn't give a shit about the Sandy Hook victim families or the law.
Their only job was to shut Alex Jones up.
When the dust settles I genuinely hope we can all agree to make Alex Jones an American Folk Hero
It's inevitable. He's already a folk singing hero.
That's been a favorite of mine.
From the comments:
Yes, we know, lawyers are spawns of the devil.
Hey that's fucking harsh - the devil is not that bad
The families that all happened to be from one tribe and all happened to be actors you mean
Those lawyers are literally fbi hatchet men. They don't care
I went to the tenacious d subreddit, all the aussies who are in the next cities on tour, particularly the ones who flew in for it. They are complaining, and about cancelling yeah. It's more about RW hypocrisy on that and it causing a cancel, as opposed to complaints cancel culture as a whole. That might take a few more toys being taken from them.
I'm actually glad Jack did the cancelling himself. It's like a partial punishment to the leftists (Australia is infested with them) to remind them even if it's not "your guy" that does it, you will still suffer for it.
Just think about this: if Trump was cold clocked by the dude instead of shot, Black would probably be cheering it on. But since Dems are supposed to value ALL life or some stupid shit, cheering the death of someone, even Trump, short circuits their programming. Now they need to do damage control because they look like vile vindictive fools. Even more so than usual
Dems don't value all life. It's why they invest in BaByQ.
They just weren't successful in dehumanizing Trump to the undecided, despite their best efforts.
A normal person would have given an apology and it would have been accepted if it were genuine. What's happening here is Hollywood told Jack if he likes making Hollywood money he'll shut his tour down to make this blow over.
Jack black has clearly demonstrated his left wing cultist idolotry. No forgiveness, no mercy.
During a performance in Sydney on Sunday, Gass was asked to make a wish by his co-frontman, replying “Don’t miss Trump next time”. The jibe has attracted plenty of criticism, with an Australian senator demanding the comedy-rock band be deported.
lol, based.
For me, it's not that he made a dark joke, but that Kyle got snared in the lame ass Fahrenheit 451 style manufactured hate. So much for "sticking it to the man", rock n' roll's euphemism for non-conformity that their movie was a PG-13 comedy about. In a more just world, every American susceptible to TDS (or its reverse, unironic trump Idolatry) would be ostracized from enlightened society, or at the very least pre-filtered from voting by an earned franchise.
Comedy is really hard. I've seen some good jokes about it and a lot of people floundering.
Stonetoss did a great one today.
https://stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/trump-assassination-stonetoss-comic.png
I just checked. Yeah, he did.
A virtual Youtuber that's came back on the 13th named Shondo did a good one too.
She simply said something like "It wasn't me!"
Shondo's never political, so it was just a joke from the outside looking in. Kind of a Sam Hyde stlye joke.
It's the kinda joke that makes you go "Oof, too soon" but hard to get outraged over because she directs the joke at herself.
Haven't seen them this much on their back foot since shortly after 9/11. Which isn't saying much, but normally this would not happen.
They get comfortable saying this shit, then when something bad happens they have to be reminded that actually normal people are horrified when you tell them they "deserved" that bad thing that happened because they're normal people doing normal stuff.
You want to get some annoying shitlibs fired/reprimanded, now is the time to do it.
Eh, I watched it. Gross, inappropriate, poorly timed--yes. I couldn't tell if Jack Black was or was not surprised from the clip I watched. The audience clearly didn't mind (ugh). I'd be fully satisfied if Kyle said something like "It's no surprise that I dislike Trump, I got wrapped up in the moment, and I said something that was really dumb and inappropriate. I crossed a line and I'm sorry."
I think if we are all honest with ourselves, we could understand getting wrapped up and heated and then saying shit that's incredibly over the line and we should not ever say.
But, these people wouldn't ever offer us the same courtesy or second chances, so I don't think we owe them a moment of mercy in return.
There's several principals here: Jack Black, Kyle Gass, and the Audience.
Jack Black may be forgiven, as he didn't say it and disavowed it (eventually). Kyle, if you're exceedingly tolerant and he issues a reasonable apology and explanation.
But the audience laughing cannot be forgiven - they most of all need to suffer consequences. Their beloved band should never play again. Tenacious D should be nuclear waste where people are shunned for saying they listen to it, certainly that it's their favorite band.
I don't know how to archive Insta, so here's the link:
https://www.instagram.com/theactualkylegass/
Kyle apologized too.
I seeth when I see apologies talking about "causing pain." Fuck "pain" from mean words.
Nah.
When someone shows you who they really are, believe them.
"Thoughts and prayers"
I'm beginning to think the decision to cancel the tour wasn't his, he's just getting ahead of it in an attempt to save face. Venue owners are likely the ones making this call. They don't want him coming if that's part of his show.
Supposedly Gass has been dropped by his 'Talent' Agency now as well.
There has got to be some behind closed door meltdown, that's the vibe I'm getting. We won't hear about it until VH1 behind the music does a piece on them in 2035.
Also the insurance costs for future venues probably spiked as well.
respect, though I feel sorry for the fans. I feel like a simple apology from Kyle would have been sufficient.
To be honest I'd have a hard time believing such an apology would be genuine. Wanting someone murdered is such an extreme view. There is so much momentum behind the thought processes that lead to it, It would be hard to do a 180 in such a short time frame.
Ill give Jack Black the benefit of the doubt though.
what a shit mindset to have...
when has apologizing ever worked for anybody on the right? but you're willing to just let it all slide with a "simple apology".
i'm guessing you're a lib
he has consistent shit takes (both sides need to chill, look how enlightened I am) , appropo of his user name
actors have shit political opinions, this is a universal truth. being public figures, when they go too far, such as condone the attempted assassination of someone, a struggle session is in order.
but, their brand of humor is pretty apolitical. I enjoyed it tenacious D back in the day myself, and I'm unsurprised that politically speaking they are batshit crazy. all of them are.
I think you’re on the wrong forum.
I agree with you. I'm a free speech absolutist. Freedom of speech, but not freedom of consequences.
Looks like Kyle is suffering the consequences from Jack Black bailing. That's fine too.
Sieg Kyle