The topic of Jews has always been on the fringes of the internet (this board among them), and dismissed wholesale by just about anyone outside of said circles. That is how things worked for the longest time, basically since the birth of the internet as a whole. That changed, very noticeably, very abruptly, and very obviously, after Israel's counter-invasion of Palestine in the aftermath of the October 7th, 2023 attacks by Hamas.
Since then, something has shifted in the wider internet (and maybe wider society, but that could just be wishful thinking), and I can't place my finger on how or why this has happened. Has it been building up over time? Did it blow up all at once? What other factors are involved? I don't know.
Here are a couple recent examples to see what I mean;
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Mark Dice, say what you want about him, is someone I've kept an eye off and on for many years. I would usually place him closer to milquetoast than not (not as bad as, say, Tim Pool the Dim Fool, but just enough to want to keep his channel). However, he went full blown Noticing(TM) in his most recent video, to my complete surprise. He even admits at the end of the video that he thinks he's "flying too close to the sun" (because YouTube), so it's safe to say that he knows.
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Info Wars (and by extension, Alex Jones) has always been willing to broach into many a subject, but has always been rather mum on this particular topic, minus low hanging fruit such as the USS Liberty (the possible reasons why are for another discussion). That is, until a few days ago, when a video + article was put out on Zionism, a pro-Jewish ideology. For all I know, its contents could be total BS, but the fact they address it at all is to be noted.
Of course, we are now seeing the US Government revealing their true loyalties once and for all (i.e. not to the American people, but to the nation state of Israel) in response to these shifts in discussion surrounding <pulls out a gallon of Minute Maid> the juice, and it is currently attempting to make "antisemitism" a federal crime based on an extremely broad definition, that can best be summarized as "rules, ethics, and accountability are for goyim".
Let me know your thoughts.
Easy: it’s because the narrative shifted in a way that can’t even be ignored by the usual cognitive dissonance. We’ve all had it drilled into our heads that Jews were the ultimate victims because of the Holocaust and so could do no wrong. Liberals have been very conditioned over the years (by SOMEONE) to always support the oppressed (blacks, gays, women, trans, “refugees.”) Then the October 7th thing happened and Israel responded in kind instead of, say, turning the other cheek(heh). This short circuited the liberal mindset, as the oppressed became the oppressors, and so they were forced to side with those poor, downtrodden Palestinians who only want to genocide the Jews. “Noticing” is a result of the conflict that arises from an inability to determine the most underest of underdogs when neither should be supported as a victim.
You can only play the victim for so long, this is why, in my opinion, magical Soros money is behind the “Palestinian protests”. It’s an extremely low risk way to push the narrative of “we’re still victims!”. The immediate AIPAC political response pushes that rationale as well, funny how we can’t get the gop to lift a finger for their voter base, but a batch of “antisemitic” protests on a conflict and we get Jewish American Heritage month in Texas the next day.
Yup. The protests distract from what's actually going on and reframe (in America) the Israel/Palestine situation into one where you have the typical Right / Left tribalisms at play.
It is not at all surprising that Soros is funding the protests or that (reportedly) Israeli intelligence is at work organizing as well.
I'm having a hard time following this because I've always seen the left as being pro Palestinian.
In my city in 2021 the cops shut down major streets for an unpermitted "protest" downtown, saw it happen with my own eyes, by leftist Palestinian supporters. I know they were lefty because some of them were wearing BLM shirts, but the slogans "Occupation is a crime" etc. were being shouted into a bullhorn.
What am I missing here?
Any decent person is against kids being blown into piles of steaming meat, which is exactly what is getting shown in media as a result of the latest campaign by the Israeli military
But that's been happening since October. So why did the protests wait more than 6 months to occur? We can basically tell that this isn't an organic, spontaneous thing, so what's the agenda here?
If you follow any normie-tier political news, it's clearly to provide a new Current Thing. Now the most important news of the day, worth 20-30 stories a day, is crap like, "INNOCENT JEWISH GIRL gets pushed by PRO-RAPE PALESTINIAN PROTESTORS." Meanwhile, US congress is working hard to neuter TikTok, X, and other tech platforms, while criminalizing speech that criticizes Israel.
"Everyone I don't like are Nazis" are what happened. Nazis hate jews, so, badabing badaboom they have to LOVE jews, and virtue signal hard on that point.
But it's splitting the retards. A whole bunch have been trained that skin darkness corresponds to worthiness. Opposing Nazis and protecting brown people are in contradiction, hence the meltdown on the left.
Instance of the Oppression Stack being poorly definced.
Their Russian funding and direction. It turns out that white privilege was a Russian psyop, the anti-apartheid movement was a Russian psyop, the anti-racism movement is a Russian psyop, race quotas are a Russian psyop, and the Palestinians are a Russian psyop. So whoever supports the whole package will support the PLO.
Could you relay to your superiors that the boomers who fall for this shit are dying off? I think our generations are worthy of new propaganda. Protip: We won't believe it's CHYNA either.
What does that link have to do with the other claims in your comment? I read the story but don't see the connection. I may simply be missing a key bit of background information that allows me to read between the lines.
Yep, these people have been trained and brainwashed to censor and identify things that they would be rewarded for censoring. Suddenly their criticism against Jews is getting censored and this confuses the typical liberal and their immediate backup response is to act violently and irrationally
You say "short circuiting" like they ever had any sense of loyalty to an ideology.
this. you've pretty much nailed it on the head
Palestine has been one of the most fundamental causes for leftists for decades, the other big one is unlimited abortions and trans rights is a recent third addition to the list.
Basically its Elon allowing it on Twitter.
Everything else is still under ZOG control. Elon executed his plan with autistic precision, keeping each step just under a plausible deniability guise. He made all of the right moves to hide his power level, feigning "genuine curiosity" while advancing his agenda, all the while convincing the gatekeepers that he was a clueless normie so they didn't go after him so hard.
Now he is rubbing their noses in it, publicly announcing he is unbanning Nick Fuentes when he could have just done it quietly.
In my fantasy world it is all part of a monomaniacal revenge plot, hatched after one of his kids turned tranny and he did a bit of research to figure out who was behind the whole thing.
I want to believe, but I'm wary of placing my trust in yet another prince.
Maybe Ireland can throw off their oppressor without putting the commies in charge this time
Chinese TikTok is fueling this on the Lefty, pro-Palestinian side as well. In fact, TikTok probably forced Elon's hand here to open up discussion in order to viably compete in the social media sphere. Now China doesn't give a shit about Israel or Palestine, but it is to their military advantage to spread division and demoralize American men from ever joining the US military. Not that China needs much help on that front, but they can certainly accelerate already existing grievances via the TikTok algorithm.
Jokes on China then. Because if this recent trend continues and Americans turn their back on Jews/Israel, not only will we no longer find ourselves stretched thin military/on foreign fronts but also stronger and more united on a domestic front.
The bullshit laws and taxes that Jew politicians push in the US handicaps the US machine. It's like we're in a race while being the only competitor dragging a person on each leg and somehow still winning by a hair. If we cut off the dead weight we would leave the competition in the dust.
Good call, I know nothing about the tiktok side. I'm too much of a boomer and auto playing videos give me motion sickness pretty much.
Another reason to ban Chinese influence in America. And Tiktok.
banning the chinese from operating in this country does not need gay israel reasons to justify it.
Pretty sure most of the far right doggedly support free speech and an open internet which allows chinese propaganda to infiltrate the country...
There's no law against criticizing China.
you are jewish
He allows it to a point. He pretty much made "#thenoticing" return zero results because it was consistently hitting the top 5 trending terms.
It's really amazing what having a single platform that has worldwide visibility where our side is allowed to argue back at even 25% strength has done in the last couple years.
The power of Truth
The problem with plausible deniability is denying it is always plausible. He might throw us in front of the bus tomorrow. But then we could still say "No no, that's 4D chess - he only needs to appear to disavow us for the moment." Trust the plan. I hope you're right though. Maybe with the right meme magic we can enter your fantasy world.
I'll be every so mildly optimistic and assume he knows what he is doing until evidence clearly shows he does not.
Elon spending the $44 billion was one of the most important moments in history.
I'm pretty pessimistic but that announcement gave me a bit of hope.
It's not the result of more people talking about them, but that they are seen more openly doing evil shit. The image of jews, scurrying like rats, out of a New York sewer is still burned in people's sub-consciousnesses and it definitely didn't do them any favors.
It's been building for a while. On T_D subreddit echo posting was pretty common until CisWhiteMalestrom banned it in order to stay on reddit. Openly White Nationalist podcasters and YouTubers were getting large audiences and followings in the heyday of the alt-right. Post Charlottesville, all that was cracked down upon. What we have now is a actually a bit of a return to normalcy. Despite his short comings, Musk has allowed Twitter to be more open. Alt-tech site have also managed to hang around albeit with tiny audiences relative to the mainstream. Basically, the internet has reclaimed a small degree of its old openness.
There is also TikTok which is now being forced to be sold because it allowed too much noticing. Despite China's own authoritarianism, realpolitik means they have little incentive in aiding the American Empire's legitimacy by cracking down on Noticing.
The Kanye West saga was also pretty big. Despite him being a crazy retard, the crack down on him showed the system's hand.
Now we get to 10/7. This has put things under duress and out in the open. Israel's desire for a Final Solution to the Gaza question (in part perhaps driven by Netanyahu's selfish political ambitions) have only further exposed things.
This latest set of legislation is another big deal. It's made it the elephant in the room. No matter how much of a kosher, grift-right piece of shit some of these people are, they have to say something. If they ignore it now, they risk losing their audiences and will get called out for ignoring it. I can see some of these people who just want grift bucks running around with their hair on fire saying, "Congress is doing what!? How the hell do we cover this!?"
I was there when a post praising Israel with a attached picture of an Israeli flag made it to the front page, and the mods went on a ban wave because the general sentiment was along the lines of "WTF? It's AMERICA First, not Israel!". That was one of my first Noticing(TM) moments, along with a CW exec having the name "Pedowitz" in relation to some trashy live action reboot.
I remember that too. T_D was more based then people give it credit for, sometimes
The moderators had a tough time keeping it split between "letting the boys post like normal people" and "keeping Reddit tranny admins from having an excuse", until the Reddit admins figured out they didn't need to have any pretenses.
Which is why it's stupid to even try to appease tranny mods.
Netanyahu having the Israeli border unguarded to allow for the attack is really what kicked it off. He was trying to rewrite the constitution to give himself more power and was dangerously close to being ousted. Boom, Hamas attacks and he has all the support he needs.
If you are conditioned to act certain way under a certain set of rules you are going to experience cognitive disonance if you keep being forced to make exceptions
Pretty much this. Lol
Noticing a verboten truth in a world inundated by propaganda and censorship will follow an exponential growth curve, depending on how powerful/effective the propaganda and censorship are. In our case, they're not monolithic and all powerful.
There have always been fringes of the internet with actual free speech, where people have discussed the verboten stuff. The people in power are in a catch 22. They either allow free speech, which will let the verboten stuff spread like wildfire, or they censor it as much as they can (while not having complete control of all corners of the internet), which forces normal people into actual free speech sites, because they're increasingly censored for having a normal opinion, where they're exposed to all of this verboten stuff, and this will grow over time. The rampant censorship also leaves a massive opening for entrepreneurs (even though they'll be met with a lot of resistance) to host their own free speech website/forum, because it's in high demand and there's low supply. The growth of Gab is an example, although a bad one, since Torba has revealed himself to either be controlled opposition or a monumental retard (with regards to the changes to picture sharing on Gab, which they've since reverted because of the massive user decline). Twitter is another example, as it was bought out by Elon (who is a weird case study), who fired most of the employees, which has enabled people to spread verboten messages on Twitter, letting those posts and comments stay up for quite a while before being censored (due to the massively decreased manpower at Twitter), if at all.
All of this has enabled the exponential growth curve of "noticing". If you've ever taken a math class which discusses such curves, there's an inflection point, where the growth is initially slow, but after that point, the growth explodes. We're past the inflection point, and the noticing can't be stopped. Too many people know about it, and too many people are talking about it. The more the people in power try to clamp down on it, the more backlash, talking, and noticing will happen.
ANY story that even remotely connects to Israel or jews will amplify the growth curve, and since Israel is enacting its Greater Israel plan over the Palestinians, it's opening a lot of eyes that otherwise would've ignored it. It's similar to how storms form. The cloud formation (condensation) can only occur around condensation nuclei (dust particles in the atmosphere), where water particles can condense onto. The clouds can only form in the presence of these condensation points. It's quite similar to this. If Israel and jews weren't so hellbent on doing what they're doing, there'd be much less noticing, but, they refuse to stop their behaviors, so they're giving condensation points (new stories to discuss), enabling the clouds to grow (and form a storm).
In every legend golems inevitably turn against their creators.
That fueled my deep hatred for Democrats more than anything else, being forced to live through that in one of the worst states to implement it (California), not to mention my grandpa getting ventilated because of their policies.
<Inhales deeply> I'm going to stop myself there before I get Rule 2'd.
Ye getting BTFO for even saying the J word opened up a lot of my friends eyes. And, frankly, myself included.
His Jewish handler threatening him with “going back to neverland and never coming back out” was… well I wasn’t surprised, but a Pim Toole fan was.
It’s a remarkable thing to have witnessed the progression among the progressives from being horrified by the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally back in 2017 to now endorsing “from the river to the sea.” Although some people would insist these pro-Palestine rallies are being perpetrated solely by white nationalist ultra-MAGA. Which I think is just a last-ditch effort to avoid the cognitive dissonance (which leads to “noticing”) that’s been going on lately.
It's pretty strange to me because it didn't seem like Palestine was much of a hot-button issue. Then when Israel went on the offensive, the far left started going nuts. And several people have had rather extreme reactions every which way to each domestic development.
For people who even casually follow the news or politics, it has become impossible to completely avoid.
There has been some build-up of noticing in the last few years. I can't speak much for major internet personalities and their topics, but there were a few stories that popped up here and in my semi-normie sphere:
Kanye West spoke out some, met with a Mr. Fuentes, and got canceled. A basketball player Kyrie Irving got into trouble for sharing Black Hebrew Israelite thoughts and beliefs. Nick Cannon (former Nickelodeon star; host of the US Masked Singer) also dug into Black Hebrew Israelite stuff in a podcast and was temporarily canceled.
I didn't personally appreciate or understand the disparity between Israeli-controlled territory and the postage stamp sized walled compound that is Gaza until Oct 7th happened and there was so much chattering about it that I couldn't avoid learning the basics.
I used to think it was all bs but I just cannot ignore it anymore. Its literally blatent and in your face. When someone rubs their dick in your face you cannot help but be angry and notice.
Same. I used to laugh at holocaust denial but now I'm like damn, how tf did I fall for that shit
Is it more "noticing" or a rise in pro Palestinian sentiment?
There is definitely a mud slime favorable wind blowing. Luckily mud slimes can't keep quiet before snackbaring and causing damage somewhere so its usually short lived.
Mark Dice has been hiding his power level for a while, but just recently went fuck it with it. He has been dropping hints about it for years. I wouldn't call him milquetoast. He just hasn't wanted to get himself canceled. I'll bet if you were talking to him off camera, things would get spicy.
He has a book about Hollywood so it's pretty much guaranteed he would Notice things. It's sad he's so slavish to YouTube though.
Wow calling it "an article on Zionism" is an understatement. The writer is basically rattling off a bullet point list of unsourced "9/11 was the Jews" claims. It sounds crazy and even if it's true nobody would believe it. At least not yet. This might be reaching Sandy Hook levels of danger for Infowars/AJ. Does anyone know anything about the author Greg Reese?
Everything you've noticed is spot on though. There's a shifting of the winds among the Right towards listening to ideas that were previously only palatable to George Galloway voting far-left radicals. (despite what the ADL would claim) What seemed crazy before is almost plausible, and people are becoming less worried about being called an antisemite or conspiracy theorist for raising questions about allegiances and influence networks. There's a large pro-Israel contingent (including Trump) but I think it helps that MAGA is made up of more isolationist types that don't want to be involved in foreign affairs. Also the fact that the holocaust is so far back and carries less weight now. On the contrary, the more it's brought up the more cringe it sounds. They might as well be whining about the Arch of Titus.
It's not particularly shocking to me. Most people have an innate morality, their conscience, that tells them that genocide - the mass murder of innocent individuals - is fundamentally immoral. Those condoning genocide inevitably need to use propaganda to undermine this sense of morality, usually by dehumanizing those being murdered. But propaganda can only go so far. Most people are able to realize that Palestinians are actually people, and those Palestinians who are innocent do not deserve to be murdered, and so will naturally feel abhorrence at those who are murdering them. So 'noticing' is inevitable once the propaganda is no longer effective.
At a population level, the collapse of the power of pro-Israeli propaganda in Western countries is likely due to the rise of multiculturalism. For whatever problems multiculturalism may have, the reality is that the mention of the "Holocaust" and charges of antisemitism does little to dissuade non-white individuals, and especially does not dissuade Muslims. The rise of non-white people being able to criticise pro-Israeli power in Western countries inevitable leads to charges of antisemitism losing their power on white people as well. Some might call this "the cunning or reason", with pushing of multiculturalism to undermine Western countries actually backfiring on those doing the pushing. Evidence that God Himself, the Logos, ultimately being in control of human history.
I think the reaction to years of forced multiculturalism is a huge part of it. This whole DEI religion and diversity push for the last 8-14 years is rubbing everyone the wrong way, but most NPCs aren't able to put their finger on it.
Now we've got this massive propaganda push, right in everyone's faces that Israel has a right to exist! You're supposed to take that at face value, but those words obviously mean more than what is being said. It means, the world needs to fight for Israel to get to be an Israel-first ethnostate, not multicultural. They get to foist all their 'multicultural' onto everyone else. That goes against all of the heavy-handed activism we've been bombarded with. Everyone thinking, black or white, asian or latin, 'Why can't we have that too?'
Israel gets special treatement, and we gotta pay for it? Not just that they get to fuck with all of their neighbors and we gotta run to their defence? Like that old cartoon with the two dogs Spike and... the little yappy one. The little dog is always picking fights Spike has to back up. All those evil buzzwords, colonialism, fascist, xenophobia, Israel is all of that. So it's breaking leftist solidarity with the establishment.
10/7 killed 'woke'. That illusion propaganda doesn't work so well anymore. Everyone got to see that there is an even higher rank of special privilege, beyond oppressed/minority and brown/queer.
I have been noticing it for a while. I think it's because the larger Muslim population.
In general, the war which has gotten more eyes on the kikes, then OFC them pushing pozzery further and further which makes it harder to not notice them
Dice is Jewish. Jones's wife and kids are Jewish. They're just trying to get control of the narrative again.
Insert 4chan post about good goys Rogan and Musk allowing/welcoming white boys back onto the plantation to die for jewish frat boys and ZOG lol.
I can give a different point of view. The mafia had a lot of Jews in it. This has been known for decades and even talked about in movies. Goodfellas is about a Jew who grew up in the Jewish and Italian neighborhoods. This was never a bit shock or surprise that there were Jewish mobsters.
About ten years ago all of that conversation stopped. People like Amy Chua who wrote about it academically were told to be quiet. Her husband is Jewish and it's a huge joke about the mobsters in the religion. Then she was told to be quiet.
Places like Hollywood, Las Vegas and New York were run by the mob for a long time. Guess who was part of that? Then, talking about it stopped. I literally studied it in history classes with Jewish teachers and discussed it with Rabbis beforehand.
From a videogame history point of view the various mobs were needed to fund the new form of entertainment. At one point Casinos in Vegas has more arcade games than gambling machines.
At the same time, regular Jews used their new skills and abilities to get into interesting positions like programmer and designer. The two big names in Videogame history happen to be Jewish, but aren't particularly mobster like.
My guess is that whatever got a hold of other religions like Christianity, Buddhism and Confucianism got a hold of Judaism and now claims noticing that is antisemitic. Most Jews are raised to be wary of people because it could all turn tits up for them, so this sudden 'antisemitism' scares them. Imagine the catfishing girl who convinces you she needs money to survive and your more noble sense are fighting your common sense. It's a hard thing to fight.
Especially when left leaning Jews see no difference.
A Jewish man once got a Lamborghini and decided he needed to be a bit Kosher about it.
He went to the hassidic Rabbi and told him he'd like a mesuza on his car.
"What's a Lamborghini?" "It's an expensive sports car." "Even owning that car is against the rules of the Tannach, you need to sell it."
He went to the less strict rabbit and asked for a mesuza for his Lamborghini. The conversation went the same at the beginning
"Why would you need a Mesuza for your car, you're blessed enough."
Finally the Jewish man went to the secular Rabbi
"Rabbi rabbi, I want to put a Mesuza on my Lamborghini. Do you know what a Lamborghini is?" "It's a sports car, I have two, what the hell is a Mesuza?"
I'm guessing the Lamborghini driving Rabbi was corrupted.
I don't understand this. It seems as if you're trying to say that some sort of "true" Judaism that is good actually. That's not true. It's shit. It's always been shit. It is Jewish supremacy as a religion.
The Judaism of the Old Testament was the truth, but they ruined the whole point of the religion by rejecting the Messiah they were promised to bear, thus forfeiting their destiny, and then it went downhill from there.
To be fair, said Messiah basically told them they were no longer "Chosen" above others. All they did was treat him like any other outsider.
That Judaism taught that Jews were super special for being descendants of Abraham (who probably never even existed). It was always supremacist.
For the left being in a weaker position means you are virtuous so Israel and jews are going to be the evil oppressor no matter what Hamas does. This in turn put the spotlight all the privilege Jews have in US while also playing victims.
For the right or even centrists, we had anti-white racism in overdrive and no GOP even mentions it, I think Trump mentioned it for the first time recently. But anti-semitism is a mortal sin?!? They may not have intended it but the optics is that the Jews and the interests of Israel are more important to the GOP then the main voter base being treated like second class citizens.
My thoughts? Let the entire middle East, all of it, both sides, regardless of affiliation and alliance, be obliterated by its own hand. Excommunicate all of it, let no one flee, let no voice escape the bubble. Let them kill each other and be forgotten, with no way out.
That can be your thoughts but in the real world Israel exacts tribute from the US government by controlling our "representatives" and "experts". Iran does not. Unless you don't pay taxes you are supporting one side whether you like it or not.
It started with the presidency of Obama, was catalyzed by Trump's presidency, then erupted with the BLM intifida, which then just took on a different form each and every time the progressives needed something to riot about.
This is just their latest pretext.
The entitlement that Obama engendered amongst these progressive Jacobins will never stop. The guillotine won't stop until you either break it or start using it for yourself like the Thermidorians did.
Hamas has a massive PR wing with 700,000 people as of 2006 and growing rapidly since then. They have had the Rothschilds, royal family, and Nancy Pelosi backing them.
The British pulled off a gigantic scam to promote Hamas by demanding censorship of "hate speech" and "extremists" then giving Hamas the job of enforcing it. They led with the Jewish groups that they control, so everyone correctly blamed The Jews.
Israel wants to dump Muslims in the US. It's not aligning with Islamists to support that. It's doing Israel's bidding which is what Pelosi typically does.
Your second link is long as fuck and doesn't mention Hamas, Israel, etc.
Because of Russian and Chinese interference (TikTok). That alongside low IQ pally trolls protesting everywhere.
I'm not either but I won't countersignal them either. My conclusion is that ethnic (and religious) homogeneity, legally enforced by putting the interests one ethnicity and religion first above other considerations, is the correct way to produce the greatest good. Within that sphere there can be disagreements and dissent as long as the primary concern is always the good of the (specific) people. The economic system implemented inside of that framework is of a much lower importance.
Right now that is impossible because of globalists, many of whom are jewish, are actively working to erase both national sovereignty AND ethnic uniqueness except for jews and except for Israel.
Therefore the only path forward toward ethnic nationalism is to remove the globalist jewish influence from western governments. Once that is done the laws can be changed to remove their cultural and economic influence.
The thing is that wouldn't be necessary if we had actually unbiased enforcement of the laws already on the books. But that postmodern/marxist "thought" that everyone who graduated from the "important" schools was steeped in is that there can be no such thing as neutrality, and every action either forwards the revolution or acts against it.
Maybe you need to understand what the Austrian painter was even about. Maybe read what he said before forming opinions about what he believed.