I find this even funnier as Amazon is the owners of AWS, which practically runs any 'scalable' service (yes we know microshit has azure whatever), including video analysis and facial recognition services... They literally had all the things in house with maybe a license and a team or two, but it was easier to outsource... the fuck lol.
A human might be better at figuring out whether someone is trying to steal (and thus needs to be banned) or they are a good customer who forgets stuff (and thus needs to be reminded by staff).
I'm thinking of this old IBM commercial from way back and imagining a bunch of Indians watching the footage arguing with each other over what the guy's pulling off the shelf.
Not to sound like a 'destroy the looms' Luddite, but automation does pose some severe problems. I'll laugh at their shit falling apart for now, but it's also probably only a matter of time until they do actually replace a lot of workers with AI or similar. Which is doubly problematic when some of the remaining jobs are staffed with illegals.
I wish we could go back to the good ol' days where actual Americans would do essentially 100% of the jobs in America.
Considering they've shown time and again they hate us, the push for automation will only lead to dystopic "own nothing and be happy" slavery from our betters, and not some utopia.
Americans worshipping the dollar more than anything - their religion, their country, their culture - was only ever going to end one way, and we're there now. You can't have "muh free markets muh capitalism" and also prioritize employing Americans, because someone somewhere might make more shekelbucks than you by not hiring Americans, and you gotta 'win' capitalism at all costs, right? So fire all the Americans and import slaves. Don't worry bro, the GDP is up so like, that definitely means something to someone.
We could at least give it a try, though. It would still be vastly better than our current bastardization wearing a very badly done capitalism skinsuit.
America is pretty much a socialist country trying to hide behind capitalism. Except we socialize the most retarded things and none of the beneficial ones.
some of the remaining jobs are staffed with illegals
In the already existing tech sector, it's a large %, I personally work with 3 people who I did not know were H1B until about a year into the job. Several of those month long 'trips to india' were actually to just re-fill out a lot of paperwork to make sure they kept their job.
Several of those month long 'trips to india' were actually to just re-fill out a lot of paperwork to make sure they kept their job.
That sounds like abuse of temporary work permits. To repeatedly apply for them. But I'm not an expert.
What they have to be is interchangeable. Because they may come in and out of a job based on funding. The immigration lottery means you don't get necessarily the particular people you want. If you had any preference. But that's how we get "Software Engineer III" job that the executives can claim to be unable to fill with native. Of course "an" Indian is right there to slot into the job.
It's interesting how so many engineers/programmers initially thought they were so good that immigration wouldn't threaten them. From a libertarian perspective. But the same thing happened as with other (let's he honest semi-)skilled labor. It drove the wages down and created a class of work product of substandard quality that is accepted.
I'm not either, partially because I don't want another thing i'm looking at to consume my little faith left in humanity. We already got the troonening and the absolute failure of all medical institutions (which is also related to imported 'professionals' but I digress).
The ones I work with are fine enough, but the system is still clearly being used inappropriately, and shaped by those above to save a buck.
The answer isn't to get rid of the automation, the answer is to delete the browns and jews. Stop making more stupid people. Start sterilizing anyone left under 100 IQ.
Throughout big tech, there seems to be a cult that worships machine learning. They think it's the solution to everything - literally. They think they will make a god and it will deliver us to paradise. Google thought they could use machine learning to predict what buttons you were going to press in a video game and give you "negative latency". Amazon is run by a machine learning recommendation algorithm that is now hopelessly gamed by bots.
In this case they probably thought a machine learning solution would magically appear from the singularity and make their grocery store work.
Amazon is so full of chinkshit that I do my shopping brick-and-mortar now. Maybe work on that instead of recommending me a YUNGEE #1 BEST QUALITY shit.
Not to sound all elitist or whatever, but who the fuck buys their fresh groceries at Amazon in the first place…
Look, I know Amazon is fucking huge, and ubiquitous, especially in the US, but if I lived there, and had any other option, imma choose that.
This evil, dystopian surveillance-state shit just rams that point home.
I will never use a store like this. Ever. Even if it becomes the only option to buy from corporate. I would rather fucking grow the shit with my own bare hands, and raise the animals as needed, than ever submit myself to something like that.
Similarly, the government can tear my petrol, entirely manual car from my cold, dead hands. And my cash. And my physical credit cards and physical ID.
I will not budge on any of those things.
I implore others, if you can, to follow suit where possible. We’re sleepwalking into a complete dystopia, the more we acquiesce to all this shit…
Yeah, even I went in to a Whole Foods in downtown LA, when I was there...
I honestly didn't think much of it. We have dime-a-dozen equivalents here, but they're usually independently owned, or part of a small chain...
Admittedly Coles and Woolworths (where most people do their grocery shopping) are basically Walmart, but...
If, hypothetically, Atlassian or some similar Australian "tech company" bought out one of these chains, I honestly doubt I would ever shop there again.
Maybe it's easier to boycott these places (for example Woolworths, over their decision to refuse to sell any Australia Day merch), here, just because we have more options, in general..? I wouldn't have thought that, given the Coles/Woolies duopoly, but I guess... Everything's relative.
Then again the UK allegedly has like 5 of these major chains, stratified by class (i.e. so that a Waitrose shopper never mixes with Asda/Tesco types). I'm kind of glad that I don't live in a country that does that, beyond pricing, tbh, lol...
These dumbshits really do think they can replace anyone and that things will still work fine, don't they? It takes a special kind of retard to outsource security to a foreign country.
Even with basic bitch self-checkout, you have people "accidentally" scanning items wrong—or not at all. Even heard rumors Walmart, Target, etc. are considering getting rid of the kiosks since they're losing so much money to shrink.
There was a grocery store like this back in the 30's. Most people didn't see the workers running in the back filling purchases. Restaurants with a similar idea existed up till the 80's. You put in money and opened a door to get the already cooked food.
This grocery store is following a similar vein, but didn't find the source yet. When I worked at a grocery store, I imagined how we would improve it with automation. Partially because that's how my mind works, and another because I really didn't enjoy doing it.
We… have that here too. It’s absolutely everywhere in rural areas, and you sometimes see it in the suburbs/city, too…
Is that not normal? Seems pretty normal to me.
Admittedly I don’t recall seeing it so often in Sweden, but I did come across it even there/the other Nordics a couple of times.
But yeah, in Aus, that’s… Entirely normal.
It’s generally where I get my eggs and apples from (aside from what I grow), because I would rather my neighborhood get the dollarydoos than some store…
That’s always been the norm, over here, pre “war on cash”, and all that…
It's like once a job becomes so simple you can only make money with pajeets slave data entry monkeys doing it, that's the first thing AI will completely take over. It's pure logic tree bullshit with image recognition.
Only problem I have with this is the massive importing of said pajeets with no other viable skills.
Fact is, automation will reach a level where people will not be able to justify work = purpose. People will fight for the few jobs that remain. The vast majority will be unemployed.
We can resist it or we can jump head long into it and rip the bandaid off. Either way, it'll be painful.
As is so often the case, automation just means moving all the work somewhere else to pretend we removed it.
"Self driving cars" that need every route and obstacle manually entered and updated.
Turns out a team of 1000 indians were hired to drive each car remotely.
Recycling.
I find this even funnier as Amazon is the owners of AWS, which practically runs any 'scalable' service (yes we know microshit has azure whatever), including video analysis and facial recognition services... They literally had all the things in house with maybe a license and a team or two, but it was easier to outsource... the fuck lol.
"YOU CAN'T DEFEAT US. WE HAVE THE COMPUTE."
the compute: "kindly do the needful"
People might be cheaper and more accurate.
They probably aren't more accurate, but bring about less false positives and can much quicker make a ruling on an incident.
A human might be better at figuring out whether someone is trying to steal (and thus needs to be banned) or they are a good customer who forgets stuff (and thus needs to be reminded by staff).
Exactly.
Hahaha hahaha. That is all
I'm thinking of this old IBM commercial from way back and imagining a bunch of Indians watching the footage arguing with each other over what the guy's pulling off the shelf.
Not to sound like a 'destroy the looms' Luddite, but automation does pose some severe problems. I'll laugh at their shit falling apart for now, but it's also probably only a matter of time until they do actually replace a lot of workers with AI or similar. Which is doubly problematic when some of the remaining jobs are staffed with illegals.
I wish we could go back to the good ol' days where actual Americans would do essentially 100% of the jobs in America.
Considering they've shown time and again they hate us, the push for automation will only lead to dystopic "own nothing and be happy" slavery from our betters, and not some utopia.
Stop pussy footing around and just join the Butlerian Jihad already.
Americans worshipping the dollar more than anything - their religion, their country, their culture - was only ever going to end one way, and we're there now. You can't have "muh free markets muh capitalism" and also prioritize employing Americans, because someone somewhere might make more shekelbucks than you by not hiring Americans, and you gotta 'win' capitalism at all costs, right? So fire all the Americans and import slaves. Don't worry bro, the GDP is up so like, that definitely means something to someone.
We could at least give it a try, though. It would still be vastly better than our current bastardization wearing a very badly done capitalism skinsuit.
America is pretty much a socialist country trying to hide behind capitalism. Except we socialize the most retarded things and none of the beneficial ones.
There are no beneficial ones. All socialism is cancer.
In the already existing tech sector, it's a large %, I personally work with 3 people who I did not know were H1B until about a year into the job. Several of those month long 'trips to india' were actually to just re-fill out a lot of paperwork to make sure they kept their job.
That sounds like abuse of temporary work permits. To repeatedly apply for them. But I'm not an expert.
What they have to be is interchangeable. Because they may come in and out of a job based on funding. The immigration lottery means you don't get necessarily the particular people you want. If you had any preference. But that's how we get "Software Engineer III" job that the executives can claim to be unable to fill with native. Of course "an" Indian is right there to slot into the job.
It's interesting how so many engineers/programmers initially thought they were so good that immigration wouldn't threaten them. From a libertarian perspective. But the same thing happened as with other (let's he honest semi-)skilled labor. It drove the wages down and created a class of work product of substandard quality that is accepted.
I'm not either, partially because I don't want another thing i'm looking at to consume my little faith left in humanity. We already got the troonening and the absolute failure of all medical institutions (which is also related to imported 'professionals' but I digress).
The ones I work with are fine enough, but the system is still clearly being used inappropriately, and shaped by those above to save a buck.
The answer isn't to get rid of the automation, the answer is to delete the browns and jews. Stop making more stupid people. Start sterilizing anyone left under 100 IQ.
when you create a machine to do the work of a man, you take something away from the man
Something, something, 1000 monkeys on typewriters can produce the works of Shakespeare.
Eh, close enough.
Machine learning algorithms written by diversity hires and trained with data labeled by pajeets. What could possibly go wrong?
Future (Namas)Tay will ask for bobs and vagene.
At least then it wont be woke.
Throughout big tech, there seems to be a cult that worships machine learning. They think it's the solution to everything - literally. They think they will make a god and it will deliver us to paradise. Google thought they could use machine learning to predict what buttons you were going to press in a video game and give you "negative latency". Amazon is run by a machine learning recommendation algorithm that is now hopelessly gamed by bots.
In this case they probably thought a machine learning solution would magically appear from the singularity and make their grocery store work.
Amazon is so full of chinkshit that I do my shopping brick-and-mortar now. Maybe work on that instead of recommending me a YUNGEE #1 BEST QUALITY shit.
Not to sound all elitist or whatever, but who the fuck buys their fresh groceries at Amazon in the first place…
Look, I know Amazon is fucking huge, and ubiquitous, especially in the US, but if I lived there, and had any other option, imma choose that.
This evil, dystopian surveillance-state shit just rams that point home.
I will never use a store like this. Ever. Even if it becomes the only option to buy from corporate. I would rather fucking grow the shit with my own bare hands, and raise the animals as needed, than ever submit myself to something like that.
Similarly, the government can tear my petrol, entirely manual car from my cold, dead hands. And my cash. And my physical credit cards and physical ID.
I will not budge on any of those things.
I implore others, if you can, to follow suit where possible. We’re sleepwalking into a complete dystopia, the more we acquiesce to all this shit…
Whole Foods is ubiquitous and was popular long before Amazon bought them... so if you buy at whole foods I guess it's like buying at Amazon.
Yeah, even I went in to a Whole Foods in downtown LA, when I was there...
I honestly didn't think much of it. We have dime-a-dozen equivalents here, but they're usually independently owned, or part of a small chain...
Admittedly Coles and Woolworths (where most people do their grocery shopping) are basically Walmart, but...
If, hypothetically, Atlassian or some similar Australian "tech company" bought out one of these chains, I honestly doubt I would ever shop there again.
Maybe it's easier to boycott these places (for example Woolworths, over their decision to refuse to sell any Australia Day merch), here, just because we have more options, in general..? I wouldn't have thought that, given the Coles/Woolies duopoly, but I guess... Everything's relative.
Then again the UK allegedly has like 5 of these major chains, stratified by class (i.e. so that a Waitrose shopper never mixes with Asda/Tesco types). I'm kind of glad that I don't live in a country that does that, beyond pricing, tbh, lol...
Oh, so Bezos and Co. recreated the Mechanical Turk. A Mechanical Pajeet, if you will.
They have some experience with that.
I had completely forgotten about this.
These dumbshits really do think they can replace anyone and that things will still work fine, don't they? It takes a special kind of retard to outsource security to a foreign country.
They were probably influenced by the likes of Kurzweil and Harari, who live in their own fantasy worlds.
> Automation
> Looks inside
> Outsourcing
I wouldn't be surprised if the Indians turned it into a TV show called 'illiterate or criminal'
Between thinking these stores would work in a low trust society to outsourcing the security measures to another country, this seemed destined to fail.
Even with basic bitch self-checkout, you have people "accidentally" scanning items wrong—or not at all. Even heard rumors Walmart, Target, etc. are considering getting rid of the kiosks since they're losing so much money to shrink.
DO NOT REDEEM!
DO NOT REDEEM!
That's one way to combat minimum wage laws.
all the thieving niggers look the same to the pajeets though
There was a grocery store like this back in the 30's. Most people didn't see the workers running in the back filling purchases. Restaurants with a similar idea existed up till the 80's. You put in money and opened a door to get the already cooked food.
This grocery store is following a similar vein, but didn't find the source yet. When I worked at a grocery store, I imagined how we would improve it with automation. Partially because that's how my mind works, and another because I really didn't enjoy doing it.
No one thought automats were automated. They had cooks, just not waitstaff.
They were fast food cafeterias, killed off because hamburgers meant you didn't have to sit down to eat.
Certain areas of Japan have produce stands with no one manning it, just a can to put money in and the honor system. No automation required.
We… have that here too. It’s absolutely everywhere in rural areas, and you sometimes see it in the suburbs/city, too…
Is that not normal? Seems pretty normal to me.
Admittedly I don’t recall seeing it so often in Sweden, but I did come across it even there/the other Nordics a couple of times.
But yeah, in Aus, that’s… Entirely normal.
It’s generally where I get my eggs and apples from (aside from what I grow), because I would rather my neighborhood get the dollarydoos than some store…
That’s always been the norm, over here, pre “war on cash”, and all that…
It's like once a job becomes so simple you can only make money with pajeets slave data entry monkeys doing it, that's the first thing AI will completely take over. It's pure logic tree bullshit with image recognition.
Only problem I have with this is the massive importing of said pajeets with no other viable skills.
Fact is, automation will reach a level where people will not be able to justify work = purpose. People will fight for the few jobs that remain. The vast majority will be unemployed.
We can resist it or we can jump head long into it and rip the bandaid off. Either way, it'll be painful.