Hell, I semi-fetishize the idea of Paladins (mostly because Cecil Harvey was my first major RPG hero with a real story), but I don't go around being a merciless soldier of God, smiting heretics. Also, I didn't play the Paladin in Diablo 2 because he was black, I played him because he was a fucking Paladin. The way ethnicities are being fetishized now makes me think I could never go back to that.
In more recent years, probably. The Wiccan bullshit has its origins in some of the truly extra nutty feminist movements of the 60's and 70's.
Neo-druidism I expect is mostly an extension of larping and renaissance fairs. Likely the same with Neo-Hellenism, although at least that has some more fun and effort put into it.
There's others on similar subjects that I'm having trouble finding at the moment. I seem to recall one feminist historian espousing the absurd idea that in early civilization, matriarchies rules peacefully, until foreign "evil patriarchal" conquerors came in and ruined everything.
In most of the other new-age Neo-Pagan religions, I'll agree, it's more often men from what I can tell.
Ahhh, okay. You're right, I'm not as familiar with some of the earlier history, honestly. New-age branches in the 80's and 90's were often presented with a heavy feminist spin. And a fair number of modern practitioners I've encountered personally have been women.
I didn't know there was a lot of actual crossover between Wicca and the Occult. And, if I recall, some crossover with Satanism as well. So you can probably understand at least some of my confusion and ignorance.
I don't blame people looking to the past for guidance It depends on the person how that turns out. If you were a nutty feminist, well you probably did it wrong.
Wiccan and new age is pretty much all women, simps, and trannies. Neopaganism is much more male. The two get conflated all the time because they're both fake. I've only known one neopagan who observed any serious rituals, and while I don't think he believed sacrificing a chicken would actually accomplish anything, if you're willing to trudge through the woods, in the nude, in winter, to sacrifice an animal, I can at least recognize the effort.
Every actual human besides the Pukel Men are fair skinned in Lord of the Rings. And those are basically talking apes who want Theoden to stay out of their yard.
The final straw for me was when they banned certain cards across all formats because of 'racism', and most online resellers removed those cards from their catalogs.
I was not old enough to get that period. How bad was the Christian influence? I know about renaming devils and demons but that about it.
I'm kind of curious, my theory is that the same white liberal karens were pushing it, just that back then it was more advantageous for them to be Christian conservatives then liberals. The personality matches way to well to be just a coincidence.
Is strange but I'm kind of sad that I did not get to experience the 80s and early 90s properly.
They did cave to christian influence and removed the pentagram from a couple cards like unholy strength and demonic tutor, but recent sjw led ban waves have been more extreme. Like banning white knight and crusade but black knight is fine lol
There was deadass a Tom Hanks movie in 1982 called Mazes and Monsters about a kid (Hanks) who plays D&D and goes crazy- thinking he's really his character and tries to jump off the World Trade Center.
Christians stood a reasonable chance of getting probably-unConstitutional laws passed restricting the satanic stuff. In the face of that, and the public hysteria, a lot of people self censored. I don't think Congress ultimately did anything. The video games rating system was created, but I thought that was voluntary.
I’m sure this move will secure massive sales from the half dozen people who resisted getting into Magic because of its inclusion of witches, druids, and shaman.
Nope. I only started playing it it pissed off my Jesus freak elders. There's nothing about the game they didn't find evil. Removing witch won't make it a church friendly game.
I never followed Magic the Gathering but have heard about it’s downfall. Is it the same story we’ve seen over and over of activists infesting the hobby?
Oh man you should come to freemagic on reddit. I never say anyone should use reddit, but freemagic is something else.
Trannies and SJWs have infested Twitter. While they're overrepresented in the player base (particularly dudes trying to get some soft games with their soft poon), they are still in the minority. And of course the troons spend all their money on real-woman urine and syringes, so their financial contribution is negligible.
Anyways, bro, I will tell you anything you want to know about Magic, the Gathering. It's a fun thing to troll people about, which is what i always appreciated about old reddit.
Indeed. Complete nonsense rules have been imposed on official tournaments for example, cards have been taken out of circulation, etc etc. And all to appeal to nonsensically woke sensibilities.
That is the reason why I wait for a console to be a few years old to buy games at >$10 a piece. By the time I remember I want to play it, the game will be $100.
Definitely. Those of us that played, and took a break need a study guide for the decades we missed. Games with only cards that came out around when we were in hs are already in demand.
Won't be long now before Halloween witch costumes are considered offensive and "cultural appropriation"...honestly surprised it hasn't already happened.
Continue killing it in the name of people who don't give a shit until the next big wrongthink session where everything has to be changed again and again to suit the ever changing needs of the giant baby people.
Ruin it faster so they'll move on to something else like the pack of locusts they are.
Then you can just change it back to the way it was, before they came in and adjusted everything, and hopefully they'll have moved on completely to wreck something else.
Of course they announce this right as the cards for the Doctor Who set are announced, that way no one is focused on the stupidity. Also, will they stop using "priest"?
They aren't dropping Witch, they never added it in the first place. And it's a reasonable decision even if the reasoning is retarded: combining witches and warlocks into a single subtype means that any future Warlock tribal card will have a larger pool of creatures that it interacts with.
Removing Druids and Shamans would be much worse: both are subtypes that have already been printed on cards, which already have tribal synergy cards that care about them being Druids or Shamans.
My mistake - the type was abandoned at some point prior to 2005, so the Witch-retyped-as-Wizard didn't show up when I was looking for Witches retyped as Warlocks.
This is flat-out retarded. I can't wait to leave Clown World ( for different, much more sinister reasons such as no-longer recognizing the city, which was all-White a couple decades ago )
Wow, WOTC vying for Disney's spot at the pinnacle of self-destruction through killing their own cash cows.
It's even more pathetic when they're trying to appease to super niche, new-age pagan religions. Ones who probably don't actually give a fuck anyway.
And probably half the people who join those groups only did so because they played D&D and thought it sounded cool to "become a druid in real life".
Hell, I semi-fetishize the idea of Paladins (mostly because Cecil Harvey was my first major RPG hero with a real story), but I don't go around being a merciless soldier of God, smiting heretics. Also, I didn't play the Paladin in Diablo 2 because he was black, I played him because he was a fucking Paladin. The way ethnicities are being fetishized now makes me think I could never go back to that.
It’s almost like you don’t object to black people unless they’re acting like violent belligerent low IQ race hustling ghetto trash.
Also not being race-swapped white characters, but I digress.
I do though.
Fucking casual.
;-P
Deus vult intensifies....
In more recent years, probably. The Wiccan bullshit has its origins in some of the truly extra nutty feminist movements of the 60's and 70's.
Neo-druidism I expect is mostly an extension of larping and renaissance fairs. Likely the same with Neo-Hellenism, although at least that has some more fun and effort put into it.
Worshipping more than one god seems harder than worshipping one god. Seems like going backwards.
At least with one God you can be like "yeah I talked to him and his opinions are the same as mine" and move on with your life.
You've made clear you haven't read a single book on the topic. It's a heavily male dominated field.
I've not read any of her books, but this feminist's work has definitely had influence in various areas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doreen_Valiente
There's others on similar subjects that I'm having trouble finding at the moment. I seem to recall one feminist historian espousing the absurd idea that in early civilization, matriarchies rules peacefully, until foreign "evil patriarchal" conquerors came in and ruined everything.
In most of the other new-age Neo-Pagan religions, I'll agree, it's more often men from what I can tell.
Edit: I think I found that 2nd feminist I was referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marija_Gimbutas
I'm referring to books on magick.
Ahhh, okay. You're right, I'm not as familiar with some of the earlier history, honestly. New-age branches in the 80's and 90's were often presented with a heavy feminist spin. And a fair number of modern practitioners I've encountered personally have been women.
I didn't know there was a lot of actual crossover between Wicca and the Occult. And, if I recall, some crossover with Satanism as well. So you can probably understand at least some of my confusion and ignorance.
I don't blame people looking to the past for guidance It depends on the person how that turns out. If you were a nutty feminist, well you probably did it wrong.
Seems its mostly females that take up the new age pagan stuff. Usually they take it up because they think they can use it to cast spells or curses.
Wiccan and new age is pretty much all women, simps, and trannies. Neopaganism is much more male. The two get conflated all the time because they're both fake. I've only known one neopagan who observed any serious rituals, and while I don't think he believed sacrificing a chicken would actually accomplish anything, if you're willing to trudge through the woods, in the nude, in winter, to sacrifice an animal, I can at least recognize the effort.
It's all men I'm award of. And, even on Reddit it's all men who think it's, " sex magic" to become trans.
There are people that just look for excuses to complain. In the legal system it has a name, and all the ones that are well known happen to be men.
Go look at Afroman's case update for an explanation.
Most of the stuff like this is an attempt to get women into hobbies that they couldn't care less about.
Not necessarily done by women, but definitely for women.
No more bear fucking?
Tbh race swapping lord of the ring characters was the final straw for me
soon as I saw black Aragorn I went off in one of my group chat. weren't Numenorians fair-skinned or something?
Every actual human besides the Pukel Men are fair skinned in Lord of the Rings. And those are basically talking apes who want Theoden to stay out of their yard.
The final straw for me was when they banned certain cards across all formats because of 'racism', and most online resellers removed those cards from their catalogs.
https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=218582
The older editions artwork was a depiction of Christian knights. The card Jihad was also banned.
Indeed.
I stopped before then tbh. I'll play, but I haven't bought anything since...uh...I don't even know.
In the 90s, they'd be doing this to appease pearl-clutching Christian conservatives.
Odd how they rejected doing this back then but are now ok with self-censorship to appear whiny crybabies and remove the fantasy from a fantasy game.
I was not old enough to get that period. How bad was the Christian influence? I know about renaming devils and demons but that about it.
I'm kind of curious, my theory is that the same white liberal karens were pushing it, just that back then it was more advantageous for them to be Christian conservatives then liberals. The personality matches way to well to be just a coincidence.
Is strange but I'm kind of sad that I did not get to experience the 80s and early 90s properly.
They did cave to christian influence and removed the pentagram from a couple cards like unholy strength and demonic tutor, but recent sjw led ban waves have been more extreme. Like banning white knight and crusade but black knight is fine lol
They aren't their target audience. They don't even play. This will benefit no one, and possibly hurt them from their fans being irritated.
They are pleasing who they imagine their target audience to be -- probably who they wish it was.
You nailed it. Who they wish it was isn't who is buying their product though. They'll learn.
There was deadass a Tom Hanks movie in 1982 called Mazes and Monsters about a kid (Hanks) who plays D&D and goes crazy- thinking he's really his character and tries to jump off the World Trade Center.
https://www.tiktok.com/discover/jello-biafra-1990
There's a series of video clips on there that show what it was like.
Oddly, the videos were recently scrubbed from YT by Oprah's company.
Obligatory moral panic parody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbiJZnZQ4es
Christians stood a reasonable chance of getting probably-unConstitutional laws passed restricting the satanic stuff. In the face of that, and the public hysteria, a lot of people self censored. I don't think Congress ultimately did anything. The video games rating system was created, but I thought that was voluntary.
Which is funny since it's a game where you're killing demons.
I was thinking Duke Nukkem was better at doing everything fun.
The difference is that pearl clutchers had boundaries and they stopped caring after a point.
I’m sure this move will secure massive sales from the half dozen people who resisted getting into Magic because of its inclusion of witches, druids, and shaman.
Nope. I only started playing it it pissed off my Jesus freak elders. There's nothing about the game they didn't find evil. Removing witch won't make it a church friendly game.
I never followed Magic the Gathering but have heard about it’s downfall. Is it the same story we’ve seen over and over of activists infesting the hobby?
Oh man you should come to freemagic on reddit. I never say anyone should use reddit, but freemagic is something else.
Trannies and SJWs have infested Twitter. While they're overrepresented in the player base (particularly dudes trying to get some soft games with their soft poon), they are still in the minority. And of course the troons spend all their money on real-woman urine and syringes, so their financial contribution is negligible.
Anyways, bro, I will tell you anything you want to know about Magic, the Gathering. It's a fun thing to troll people about, which is what i always appreciated about old reddit.
Thanks!!
There are a few old videos games that were decent. I wish they were still letting Stainless Games make them.
Indeed. Complete nonsense rules have been imposed on official tournaments for example, cards have been taken out of circulation, etc etc. And all to appeal to nonsensically woke sensibilities.
Witch soon to be replaced by Tranny.
Shapeshifters (only the newb version where they fail even the lamest of checks)
Wait another 10-15 for nostalgia to kick in.
That is the reason why I wait for a console to be a few years old to buy games at >$10 a piece. By the time I remember I want to play it, the game will be $100.
Definitely. Those of us that played, and took a break need a study guide for the decades we missed. Games with only cards that came out around when we were in hs are already in demand.
This means they will drop Clerics and Angels too, right?
Right?
They lost me when they dropped mana burn.
They lost me when it turned out that a huge portion of their judge staff were hardcore sex offenders.
My nigga.
That and damage on the stack.
Won't be long now before Halloween witch costumes are considered offensive and "cultural appropriation"...honestly surprised it hasn't already happened.
Yes, please.
Continue killing it in the name of people who don't give a shit until the next big wrongthink session where everything has to be changed again and again to suit the ever changing needs of the giant baby people.
Ruin it faster so they'll move on to something else like the pack of locusts they are.
There will be nothing left of the game we once loved by the time they move on.
Then you can just change it back to the way it was, before they came in and adjusted everything, and hopefully they'll have moved on completely to wreck something else.
Then you can enjoy it again.
So they discovered that druids and shamans have religious connotations? ^__^ Do they still have priests, though?
Of course they announce this right as the cards for the Doctor Who set are announced, that way no one is focused on the stupidity. Also, will they stop using "priest"?
What about Goblins?
They aren't dropping Witch, they never added it in the first place. And it's a reasonable decision even if the reasoning is retarded: combining witches and warlocks into a single subtype means that any future Warlock tribal card will have a larger pool of creatures that it interacts with.
Removing Druids and Shamans would be much worse: both are subtypes that have already been printed on cards, which already have tribal synergy cards that care about them being Druids or Shamans.
Clarification, they had the Witch creature type, they just dropped it in 2019 so the Witch part is old news
My mistake - the type was abandoned at some point prior to 2005, so the Witch-retyped-as-Wizard didn't show up when I was looking for Witches retyped as Warlocks.
This is flat-out retarded. I can't wait to leave Clown World ( for different, much more sinister reasons such as no-longer recognizing the city, which was all-White a couple decades ago )
They are only going to make games with no cards newer than ( insert) more popular.
reason #2,023 why I should liquidate my collection
What is this going to be now, Farming: The Gathering?