Barbie will make money. I went to the theaters to see Mission Impossible and the parking lot is swamped. All the high school and college aged girls have been filling th theater for days to see Barbie. Dressed in pink, all dressed up. Dragging their boyfriends, with super betas showing up to watch it on their own. I have ladies on Facebook who are posting all about it, mothers with daughters, random gals. They are showing up like it is Twilight.
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Putting feminism into something where women and girls are the target audience doesn’t seem to hurt it. We see them try all the time with stuff that generally appeals to guys and there is usually well deserved backlash
Women are extremely affected by what other women think and do. It's Barbie, and that's all that was needed to provide the critical mass to get the ball rolling. If Amy goes to see the movie and everyone is talking about it, Becky needs to go see it as well so she stays hip and doesn't lose status in the group.
gonna go with this too.. men have standards lol. its why all cool things are male orientated or dominated.
This is also why the 19th amendment was a mistake. Women are far to vulnerable to peer pressure and doing what they think they're expected to do.
But I will say this. My fiancé went and saw it while I went to see Oppenheimer. And she ended up loving the movie and thought it was funny. But she doesnt really keep up with the sort of things we do, and she is utterly convinced that Barbie was making fun of the Ultra-Feminist types, and that nothing about it was serious.
And from what I have gathered second hand from other people who went and saw it and dont normally like woke stuff, it sounds like that is the prevailing sentiment. Which I imagine is not the reaction the actors or film makers wanted.
Oppenheimer is propaganda. Oh noooos, the jewish guy who invented the nukes is upset and surprised that the nukes worked exactly as it was intended to work and killed people exactly as it was intended to?
Lol bullshit.
Oppenheimer was a millionaire from birth, educated in the best schools and a staunch communist. I feel zero sympathy for him.
The real propaganda is that it wasn't actually a jewish person who invented nukes. The point of movies like Opperheimer isn't to propagate what you just said, it's to propagate the idea that jews invented nukes and that nukes even exist in the manner in which we've been told.
as opposed to existing in a different manner?
You think nukes are a major reaction from an atom splitting that results in a massive blast that can cause massive damage and potentially destroy the whole earth if a nuclear war happens.
I'm saying this premise is false. What exactly is false and to what extent is unknown. Likely, the blast is not nearly as destructive as initially described, hence why governments "moved away" from big blast nukes and created "tactical nukes" because the tech can actually only create smaller explosions. The radiation of the blasts is also likely over exaggerated. It's possible, the mechanism of explosion isn't actually even possible in the first place and the bombs are simply more destructive regular bombs.
Something about nukes are highly deceptive though. Their existence doesn't add up to the way in which they've "been used" in the last century. But they make a great fear mongering tactic for governments to control the masses like a COVID-19.
Everything about nukes stinks.
Yeah dawg, that's cool and all, except we've fucking used them on people before and seen the effects of them first hand.
Oh we have? I also saw people in Hazmat suits and people dying on the streets over COVID too. Tens of millions of people died because of COVID you know. We saw it.
Let's not forget the 6 million...
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are you guys gonna go full patriots.lose and start censoring anything that refers to jews?
He didn't censor anything. He's responding to someone who reported it. Mods doing a fine job at the moment.
Mods do a fine job when they kick the chair out and make the rope swing tight.
If it makes you feel any better: I'm literally never going to hang you.
That's what I got from all the guys I know who went see it as well.
Its a full Starship Troopers and Mad Max Fury Road situation. Where the thing they are trying to say is bad they make look awesome and every guy walks away fucking loving it.
They didn't just fail to be propaganda, they had the opposite effect so hard they are unironically making people talk about the good things Patriarchy has done in those terms. Something unthinkable beforehand.
I have an issue with Starship Troopers being compared to fucking Barbie.
Starship Troopers saying 'war is bad' is only half the context.
Starship Troopers was both an anti-war film and a pro-war film at the same time. It was intentionally built that way which is part of what makes it so damn enjoyable, because it both stays true to the source material and expands it to ensure a complete film gets told.
That's why both the 'anti-war' crowd and the 'pro war' crowd can appreciate it at the same time, because it gives them both exactly what they want without sacrificing content or quality for the other.
It's an incredible screenplay based off an exceptional book and achieves on purpose what you are attributing to Barbie doing incidentally. Barbie only does one half, it is incredibly difficult to do both.
I don't know where you got this from. The director has openly stated his intentions many times, including openly hating the source material and considering literally everyone who doesn't share his delicate liberal sensibilities fascist Nazis. Verhoeven isn't known for being subtle or having "both sides" nuances. Its also a terrible adaptation by any metric, even ignoring the thematic one as he literally said it was too boring and "right-wing" before settling on lampooning it entirely because "Muh Nazis."
I've in fact, never seen a single person but him consider it remotely competent anti-war other than "it tried to be." That's why they had to invent the "asteroid was a false flag attack" theory. Because its the only way to make the film remotely start to work as one.
Heck even the original writer, who was trying to do a fair adaptation and grapple with the thoughts the book is meant to provide admitted the entire center third of the book was useless fluff meant to preach and cut it out, instead replacing it with his own experiences of women having no interest in him (how this is relevant to the rest of the story is a mystery). Which is why we have the god awful romance triangle to begin with, it was shoehorned in to reduce the politics and after many rewrites functioned as well as everything else they are trying to satirize.
It is incredibly difficult to do both, which is why a zealot like Verhoeven didn't even come close. All he did, much like he did with Robocop, was create a cartoonish evil so ridiculous that people skipped all his "deep" thoughts about America being Nazis and instead were awed by the cool shit.
That's why the Barbie comparison is apt. Because it so desperately wants to be one side of an argument, and in doing so becomes such a parody of itself that its opponents love it instead. All its missing is a good source material being ruined by shoving that message in.
The entire theory is based on the idea of:
Which is logical, but has literally zero basis or evidence to it other than applying real world logic to a scifi movie at only one specific element.
You clearly haven't read the book. The movie is a parody. Sure, it's funny and a good movie, but it certainly tries to mock a decent book and its ideas. Not that the book's author had that much wisdom, but still.
I remember someone speculating that it could be mocking wokeness. How was Oppenheimer?
It is like a lot of Nolan historical movies (a la Dunkirk). I was expecting more about the Manhattan Project, but it is more about his life. And to that end, it jumps around a lot so you do need to be paying close attention. But if you are interested in the man, I do recommend it. And the parts where it did cover the Manhattan Project were interesting. And I do enjoy that they got the physics of a nuke right (which is rare in movies), where you see the blast long before you get hit with the shockwave. So there is an eerie quiet as you are watching the mushroom before everything gets blown over.
He had the one line all the normies know, but was otherwise was the least interesting person working on the project.
The normie line is apparently worth a movie, but if I had to pick a Los Alamos physicist, it would be Richard Feynman not Oppenheimer.
Im seeing Twitter discourse in our sphere speak of it as a tale of one man's crusade against the longhouse. Unsure how tongue in cheek this is or not.
Either way it's amusing that apparently the director and producers are so incompetent they apparently can't even do what they were set on doing.
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Women and "faults?" Did you mean to say fags?
Fags would have worked just fine.
Thanks. I meant to say girls. Not sure how my phone interpreted that wrong
There's no depth to which a simp won't sink.
They cast Ryan Gosling.
They were asking for betas in Scorpion White Jackets to show up alone and creep out any ladies on their own.
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They are lower than shark shit
Women respond to an attractive woman being a boss femme? Next you’ll tell me women also flock movie theaters for soft core torture porn because the woman wins over the the dominant male in the end…
I think you are giving women way too much credit. They aren't going see it for the girlboss or the girl power the director tried to say was super duper important to the movie.
They are seeing it because hot boy Ken makes their gina tickle and pastel and pink and pretty and ahhh.
I've talked to many people already who went see it. Every girl went entirely to dress up in her specially chosen pink outfit and then gush over Gosling. Not a one could even talk about the deeper ramifications of the movie, or even the plot. I had to get that from the guys who went for the memes.
This just in: Western women are stupid and will give money to anything that tells them how special and wonderful and perfect they are
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If it helps I can call Western men beta losers with no spine. Can't be an identity attack if I attack every identity.
Bro, you've missed out on attacking all of the rest of the 9 million genders. Why are you so intolerant of just men and women specifically?
You see, voidgenders drive their car like this. But demigenders, they drive their car like this.
Lots of shitty stuff makes money. I accepted that fact decades ago.
Bro it already did. It made more in one weekend than Indiana Jones did in a month
My girlfriend asked me to see Barbie together. I answered I thought it was stupid to give money to someone that makes movie like that. She said she would pay for me. I answered it was wrong for me to let my girlfriend pay for something I thought was wrong paying for, so in the end we didn't go to see it.
People should just start being honest about what they think and what they want.
Alpha moment.
$145m production budget, and a whopping $150m marketing budget. normally marketing is only 30-50% of production. this flick, it's 103%. they absolutely intended the bait and switch.
it's time to start taking this shit out on everyone involved.
producers:
stop seeing their shit. they're toxic.
It's not surprising. From what I've heard, primarily from Critical Drinker, is that Barbie pulled a colossal bait and switch with its marketing. What people thought would be a whimsical chick flick is actually man-hating garbage.
Taking your date to a movie you know wasn't made for him in mind and that you know he won't enjoy is grounds for a breakup IMO. And doubly so if you're aware of the man-hating propaganda that Bitchbie is. If you want to watch your chick flick trash, do it on your own time. When you're with your guy, do something you both enjoy, just like he should for you.
That's the problem with a lot of westernised white women and why I can't stand them or even other women who have latched on to that mentality. Everything is about them and they'll even tell you this. Then act smug and arrogant about that on top of it.
I think I don't even like hanging out with them generally if I'm honest because I'm wondering if it's just the insufferable nature seeping through even when they know you're okay because that's just their default position and they don't even realise it. The foreign women that I've chatted to just don't seem to have that intense hostility or disgust towards men by comparison but you even see it in their body language and behaviour generally.
I am not surprised at all at the demographics of the people watching this movie because yes it's meant to stroke their egos like all most media these days. It's like people have pointed out, remember twilight and 50 shades of grey? Yeah, cancer, that goes double for women who watch crap like late night shows and other shows geared towards women, pick literally anything else and I'd respect them for it but not this lol.
Foreign women are just better at hiding their nature. American women are just unrestrained by society so that nature is unmasked. I've dated Europeans, Asians and American women and they are all the same once the honeymoon faze is over.
I'm mixed on this, don't get me wrong, I'm not going to do the grass is greener bullshit on people and act like it's only western women that are fucked 100% of the time because that of course wouldn't be true. When I write about this kind of thing I mean how they really, truly hate men rather than just being a general bitch, there's also the fact that the feminist factor is infiltrating into foreign cultures as well slowly but surely.
Foreign women? I feel like the contrasts between behaviours towards men is pretty stark though in general and it's remarkable. There's a reason passport bros are a thing so there must be something appealing enough about them they'd get married and raise a family, I'm just going by what I see. Mind you, the standard's of men who want to have a long term relationship are fucking low so I can also see where the trap lies.
Taking a man to see Barbie is like taking a black person to see Birth of a Nation. Except no, Birth of a Nation is actually more nuanced, because it doesn't have multiple monologues about victimhood and how everything bad is everyone else's fault.
Well, I assume anyway. I've never seen it. But I can't really see a modern-style oppression wank monologue in a movie made that long ago.
How long before the trannies take over Barbie fashion image? Women will say nothing and pretend it's cute all the while knowing they're being insulted from every side.
If women let that happen to barbie of all things then they deserve it and I'll laugh.
Which is why I unironically support trannies entering women's spaces. Women's egos are out of control and need a check.
Troons must, in the name of decency and inclusion, be allowed to compete in women's athletics.
They should also be eligible for all of women's scholarships and HR quotas.
Make it so that any women who wants the preferential treatment has to associate with transformers. If nothing else, it would be funny.
I enjoy the whining from them, the very same women who made it illegal for men to have their own spaces have had all this shit backfire on them and now they're trying to get men to help them by bitching about in social media. Honestly the right wing women trying to go on about this can fuck off as well, where were all of them during GamerGate and when men's hobbies were being frequently attacked? Oh that's right, like many normies they were very much having a "Fuck you, got mine" mentality towards the whole thing. Yeah, get the popcorn and enjoy and watch.
Of course it will, it had a very fantastic marketing campaign that was very misleading about the contents of the film, with only subtle hints at just how bad the rot really was. It's going to make a lot of money, but it's also going to cause a lot of anger and strong disdain for the Barbie product, and the studios that published this film.
Currently in the Philippines.
Also went to watch Mission Impossible.
The line to buy tickets for Barbie and take pictures with the 3D pop-up poster of the movie was filled with Gay dudes. Like Gay men out numbered Filipino girls 4 to 1 for this movie AND THAT SHIT WAS SOLD OUT.
The Philippines is rotten with ladyboys though. I mean one of their biggest TV stars is a (bad) crossdresser.
There is talk it could become one of the most successful movies in history - Titanic levels of success. Even the conservative commentators I know of, a good number of them are coming round to the movie after watching it twice. And that's the thing, unlike Titanic or Fifty Shades of Grey where people watch once and then rewatch later at home, people are repeat watching the movie, including the said conservative commentators.
It is not a comic book movie or a remake of something else. I almost welcome it being profitable. I say almost because I know who made it.
Appeal directly to the ego of entitled woman
Nothing
Profit
Barbie was always going to make money, regardless of how heavy it goes on the feminism. Was anybody actually expecting a light-hearted fantasy dive into the deep Barbie mythos?
Unless it out sells the sound of freedom, I don't care. It's just usual Hollywood trash.
There's some faggot beaner on TikTok who claims to work for/worked for Governor Abbott and that's he's SO Catholic and conservative.. but he's going on and on about how Barbie is actually super egalitarian and everyone needs to get over it and it's literally not woke at all.
Little cunt just argues in circles and latches on to dumb shit and refuses to even consider anyone else's points on obvious bullshit, like the random freak who runs up and straight claps on Barbies cheeks right in front of Gosling-Ken like some absurd, man hating caricature of real men.
I knew Abbott was a shitstain but it's interesting to see what kind of fake ass people he has in his professional circle