you can now go to jail in Canada for simply saying you dont believe an event happened
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I'm a big believer in freedom, but I wouldn't mind giving right wing authoritarianism a turn at the wheel for a while since the left is doing it. It's only fair.
I'll get smacked by whichever side is at the helm, but I'm pretty sure the right will smack me less than the left.
At least the right will smack you in ways that strengthen society rather than destroy it, and encourage you to strengthen yourself too.
Given the left's moral posturing, you might be correct, but there are elements of the right which are entirely moralistic as well. I think CS Lewis had the right of it:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
― C. S. Lewis
would be an interesting conundrum indeed, were it not proven natural law that the third-position-type-"right"'s pragmatic and sensible morals more often than not do truly lead to good outcomes.
puritan-style tongue searing (or would it be finger searing?) if you so much as type Jesus with a lowercase J might be the image that the term "right-wing authoritarianism" evokes, but personally i think stuff like that is just plain insane, which means it can be rather neatly lumped in with the left which is equally insane. it definitely should not be the image of what we refer to as "the right" and which cannot be seen anywhere in popular society today, since that sort of ideology stands for a reasonability which would forbid needless tyranny like cutting your ears off if you listen to nigger rap.
we may, however, confiscate the fire mixtape, and recommend some mozart. i don't think anyone could blame us for that.
Mozart is colonialist, fascist adjacent, imperialist music.
Thus, I approve.
Not so sure about that. Extremes of woke Leftwing Authoritarian Identity Politics: CCP China. Extremes of awakening Rightwing Authoritarian Identity Politics: Theocratic Islamic State(s) in MENA.
Comparing Christians to Muslims...LOL.
We haven’t had anything near Christian theocracy in centuries.
We haven't had anything I would call a Christian theocracy in the west in like 200 years, so that strikes me as incredibly unlikely.
That said, the prospect of Islamification of Europe over the next 200 years is a real one - I don't see any resurgence of Christianity coming, so Islam may well be the future of Europe. Hopefully by peaceful conversion rather by the typical Islamic method of the sword.
Ooooh nooo....how awful...
whut, Chyna hates niggers and faggots
Look up the term "Useful idiots".
huh i mean if you look at Chyna's policies the only thing that fits your long description is authoritarian, they're not really communists or socialists, some might even consider them cut throat capitalists in certain sectors. they don't support diversity, immigration, or lgbtq agendas, the government has control over elections and media but so do ours, they just didn't bother with the illusion of giving people the power. they might financially support woke stuffs abroad as ways to undermine the west, but they themselves did not drink the coolaid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9TviIuXPSE
Right-wing tyranny is a lot less embarrassing.
And more efficient.
i hope there're at least spiffy uniforms
Helicopter rides aren't terribly efficient, but they sure do create a spectacle.
That's mostly a meme anyway, I think.
I'm trying to find exact numbers. The Chilean government says 120 people executed via death flights. Other estimates say 40+ flights, and 400-500 total "bodies" thrown...but that includes dead bodies, as it was also used as a way to dispose of those who, uhm, perished in other ways.
I'm not talking morals here, but from an efficiency standpoint it doesn't sound like it was terribly inefficient, actually.
It's really a no-win scenario but, yeah, it would be better than continuing to go down the current path.
There really isn't such a thing unless you use a very twisted view of what constitutes "right wing".
Authoritarianism is the extreme left spectrum. Anarchism is the extreme right spectrum. The "political compass" and "horseshoe theory" that put the far left socialists of nazi germany on the right just because they squabbled with other far left groups is a propaganda tool pushed by leftists.
only if you use neocon prageryew political scale that crams every thing down to muh economic freedoms and ignore everything else like culture, history and you know, actual politics. meanwhile every one else uses the left/right terminology based on the old revolutionists literally seated on the left wing while the monarchists/tradtionalists/reactionaries seated on the right.
You still don't understand. All forms of authoritarianism are authoritarianism. Cultural, social, whatever. This is the only scale that actually has concrete values and cam be used to measure all forms of government. It's not a tool to say "right wing good left wing bad" or the opposite, it's an ACCURATE scale.
And it is necessary to use because retarded subhuman wehraboos who try to slide their socialist bullshit in with more right wing entities should be culled like vermin.
where do you think the 'left and right' even came from? it's not an arbitrary thing people coined out of nothingness. neocons are the ones that subverted the term to push their laissez-faire economic policies and claim themselves as conservatives who care about conserving (traditional) values while only caring about conserving corporate profits and gdp. the monarchy being ultimate left wing while anarchist being the ultimate right wing is the most retarded thing to say about politics.
if I ask you what are you even conserving, are you going to reply my democracy and individual freedoms, literally liberal/left wing concepts?
Conservatism is a relative position, not an absolute.
what is being conserved?
My original post was about accurate political scales, not relative merits of conservatism. Reading comprehension, go learn it.
It's kind of a case of one side demanding that I believe in things that are observably not only untrue, but are in fact inversions of reality.
As opposed to the other side demanding that I believe in supernatural stuff that is unknowable.
For me at least, it's a lot easier to honestly say, "I dunno, but ok?" than "absolutely not, but yes!"
historical fact so unassailable that questioning it is forbidden.
i can't think of anything else quite like it.
True or false doesn't matter, I can lie or tell the truth freely on all those topics:
"Dinosaurs don't exist. Never have. The world was made Last Tuesday, with everything in motion including historical records, pre-half-lived elements, and false memories."
Done. I can go into a public square anywhere in North America, even in Canuckistan, and declare that proudly and loudly to the forum. I will not be put into prison for two years for such an action.
"The TSA is security theater. They exist to make stupid cowards more comfortable about flying, not to actually catch any threats."
Bam, still not in jail for two years.
"Due to quantum uncertainty, the atomic model of the atom is misleading at best, a properly accurate model would look very different indeed, if it were even possible to create."
Still not in jail.
"Fluoride is added to many water supplies supposedly for teeth health, but when you look at the insanity rate of people in the middle/ren ages, in these massive asylums compared to today with out 10000x larger population and seemingly the same pure number of ailed, and take into account fluoride's effect as a mood stabilizing drug, there's merit in the theory that it is impacting the psychological zeitgeist, and if so, one must ask if this was an intentional effect."
No jail.
He's not correct yet, but I believe outlawing holocaust denial will lead to the rest being outlawed to question as well. The holocaust is the justification, after that, why not make more stuff illegal to question?
Where does disbelieving lampshades made of skin fall?
Right up there with automated rail cars tipping and tossing large groups into a giant oven.
That one's way more absurd than the lampshade claim. The lampshade claim centers around individuals. Automated Jew-catapulting trains and giant ovens is something that would have to be ordered from on high and custom designed and built - an expense that makes ZERO sense considering the whole argument for gas chambers was that Germany literally couldn't afford to spend six million bullets on Jews, Gypsies and Gays.
Gas chambers? The "poison gas rooms" with non-airtight wooden doors?
Most people have a severely ignorant understanding of what constitutes "6 million", on both sides. The majority of those deaths come from outside the camps, and include more than just jews. The only accurate reflection of 6 million deaths is when the majority of that comes from civ casualties / murders by BOTH soviets and nazis in eastern europe.
The idea that 6 million, that were all jews, all died in 3 camps does not work.
masturbation machines
Haven't heard that one yet.
But we never gave in, not really; there was that one time just before liberation but other than that we were strong. We would see the boys they put on those masturbating machines just drop, just die, right there in front of us. The absolute cruelty was beyond our belief.
–Stolen Soul: A True Story of Courage and Survival, Bernard Holstein, 2004
surely they don't run the government and the media
Is there any other single event in history that you can get thrown in prison for denying that it happened? If I start denying the French Revolution will French people around the world call me a bigot? If I deny the Great Potato Famine will the Irish Antidefimation League charge me with a hate crime? Will they start writing articles about how we need harsher hate speech laws?
Nothing you listed is illegal to say. That's what this conversation is about.
Bro really called us dumbasses in all caps while being dead wrong lol
just another irrelevant ramblings gimmick account
60 million jews died in the holocaust. It was terrible.
Oy Vey , that's downplaying, everyone is well aware it was 6 billion
Last I checked, it was actually 666 billion. They found some new bodies.
And then after the war, their population had actually increased..AND they got Israel....seems like they did pretty well out of WW II. "Don't cry for me, muh 6 gorillion, the truth is you never left us"
Oy that 70 million was tragic!
"An event," which specifically? Oh of course, the only event that is illegal in 20+ countries to question because it TOTALLY happened eXaCtLy the way they say it did.
ww2 memoirs from Eisenhower, Churchill and de Gaul totalling seven thousand pages never even mentioned one word of this event.
Any event which disbelief is punishable, is not an event which took place.
What about them?
This
retardintellectually-disabled conversation-derailer thinks it's illegal to say giant reptiles didn't exist.Given how many dinosaur fossils are literally scientists making shit up after finding a single fragment of jawbone, I'm inclined to believe dinosaurs never existed
Now dragons on the other hand... sort of interesting how many disparate cultures have legends of that sort of thing
Oh, understandable.
I've never really leaned one way or another on the "It's the Jews!" debate, not there aren't a plethora of patterns to be noticed. However, all the recent moves being made to condemn any criticism of Judaism and Israel makes me wonder if someone else isn't behind the curtain trying to keep attention off themselves.
This is one of the funniest copes I’ve ever seen. Thank you, kind retard.
yeah, it's totally the irish, or aliens, or south korean women or something...
It seems too easy because it's so obvious thanks to their complete control. They couldn't do half measures and now there's no denying it.
There's something comical about being called a "retard" by someone willfully acting like an idiot. Also, nobody here is coping. Except you, I imagine, when you embarrass yourself by doubling down after I spell this out for you.
If the Jews are so sinister and cunning that they've been secretly ruling the world for however many years, something that would take a great deal of discretion, why would they all of a sudden bring all this attention upon themselves? There weren't any reputable figures on the Right who shined a spotlight on these people. Aside from Kanye, it has only been an inconsequential number of rightoids talking about it. They brought this heat on themselves by pushing a massive campaign to crack down on antisemitism. What makes no sense here* is that antisemitism isn't a sentiment held by most of the West. Thus, this whole 'pro-semitism" campaign creates a problem where there doesn't need to be a problem. Societies that operate in secret don't want attention drawn to them. A group that has supposedly been smart enough to rule the world for at least several decades would also be smart enough to know that completely silencing dissent would be impossible. It could very well be that Jews are ultimately in charge. I'm just not ignorant enough to refuse to at least consider the possibility that, like the satellite states of the Soviet Union, they exist as a buffer zone.
*My phone autocorrected this to "Herr". The joke isn't lost on me.
Velma is so bad it's exactly what a based conservative Mindy kaling would make to make the left look bad
Kinda sad when you think about it, there are no space reptilians, there is no Illuminati.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say there's no Illuminati. Despite the outright confirmation of not only its existence, but also its purpose, nobody talks about Bohemian Grove.
No bug-eyed lizard-aliens, just depressing people acting in pure self-interest. The Illuminati found their name to be too intimidating and just changed it for PR purposes.
There absolutely is an Illuminati and they admit to it.
Even though the aforementioned Zundel trial proved in a court of law that physical evidence of said event doesn't exist.
it's so well established that no evidence is needed
I mean, it's the same in Germany and tons of other European countries, you get up to 2 years also for it which is fucking mental, in the EU as a whole 1-3 years. I don't care about the topic personally but opinions should be free. You can deny the genocide on Armenians by Turkey all you want in the EU btw, if you say it happened some Turk's gonna punch you for sure though.
Jews can play it up and you can never play it down.
Welcome to europe!
lol, a classic cultist rant.
I will still continue to refer to the multi-species holocaust against wildlife as a holocaust. Fuck anyone owning the term for their own selves.
Fragility will increase if you coddle…
Liberals just hope that fragility leads to a desire for more communism.
It didn't.
https://www.canada.ca/en/contact/questions.html
Somebody will have to read it, and they will no doubt expend resources to try and track it down, but I'm a US citizen, so they can go fucking pound sand when I tell them the holocaust didn't happen.
I was actually going to mention you regarding a broader application of this given your own stance regarding Sarah Everard but by all means whine about made up bots instead of the main issue at hand until it affects you directly.
You should either try to come up with something that at least resembles an argument or just stay silent. Go ahead, try arguing that this is what the feminist illuminati that you keep ranting about wants.