Replace the evolution reference with I frickin' love science. Guns? Debatable. Students rarely bring them to school. The problem we're seeing is younger kids getting involved in gangs and street crime.
Religion is wrong when it comes to technology and scientific progress, but right when it comes to society and morality
Turns out, you remove a focus on an ideology focused on legacy, tradition and restraint of base urges, people will act like degenerate hedonists, who knew apart from evangelists, philosophers, every army drill instructor etc.
except for violent video games causing violent kids
That would be fatherless households caused by feminism, which the evangelical right also opposed. They had the cause wrong but they also opposed the actual cause. Not a bad score card all things considered.
Which you can connect right back to feminism decoupling sex from marriage, meaning women are now bred constantly with poor stock of men. The same type of guy to be a deadbeat, is also the type to pass on impulsive, violent and overall bad genes. Meaning the kid was born with a bad hand.
Which holistically also means that bad hand is exacerbated by their mother's poor quality. Because the type to have sex with Tyrone the Hoodrat isn't providing a good nurture either.
Impulsive genes can also be hyper-competitive genes. They just require more social training to learn how to harness these impulses in a productive way.
Impulsive, violent males tend towards high-risk behavior, which lowers their average life-span, but can have high rewards, both genetically and socially.
For example Rock Stars are highly competitive, highly motivated and have a bonkers high risk lifestyle. Successful rock stars are also drowning in reproduction opportunities.
They can, but again of the women likely to have sex with the type of bottom barrel men that we are speaking of in this case, the training to properly apply these impulses and the call of their own DNA is unlikely to even get a foundation.
These hyper-competitive genes are also anathemic to a functional and cohesive "society." For every single success, there are dozens if not hundreds of failures. Not just failures to succeed or breed, but be a net negative to society. For every pop culture "sociopath" who becomes a CEO, there are dozens if not hundreds in jail after committing atrocities. For every hoodrat who escaped to become a millionaire, there are thousands of graves of those who did the same thing and didn't get lucky.
Its the same thought process that creates the "alpha male breeds all the women, makes the betas raise them" problem. Which our ancestors figured out thousands of years ago just creates chaos as the less successful males have either no reason to try (as they know they can't win) or lash out with their own impotent violence. Both result in near complete societal failure, because civilization is built on the back of young men sacrificing in the hopes they will get that simple family opportunity.
Point being, while in exceptional cases it benefits everyone greatly to have these hyper-competitive males, it does also great damage to have them out in the wild. And in the modern day, there is no curb to their ambitions on average. No father to teach them, no family to balance them, no social circles to teach them proper behavior. Just wild gorillas left to pound their chest.
As if the distinctions we're talking about are more impactful than the promotion of crime as a culture, the inculcation of race hatred, the dependency on the state, mass fatherlessness, and rampant drug abuse.
Most of those were caused by political policy poisoning incentives, and a culture which promoted them.
I'd add in most of the satanic panic as well that leaked into the 90s from the 80s, namely their opposition to rock and metal music. Considering WotC though, they might have stumbled into something about DnD though. Wrong reasonings, but still ended up being right.
The "satanic panic" stuff was started by the Finders cult having satanic rituals with kids in a tunnel. As well as the increasing amounts of child abductions and abuse in military daycares.
All of the other stuff was to help cover up those facts.
TSR was in charge of D&D/AD&D up until the mid-late 90s, when they went bankrupt; WotC bought them out then; I was actively playing at the time. Chick tracts had been ranting about it pretty much since the original D&D box sets with the shitty blue dice were a thing.
Well, I haven't played since (TSR-owned) second edition, and I was only a player. My RPG was Werewolf: the Apocalypse, anyway. I still have that set from back in the 2e days, so I don't need to buy any more. :P
It was less that DnD was evil and more that actual occultists saw its popularity as a way to recruit. Which they do. Maybe overblown, but it makes sense.
Well, maybe if they didn't alienate everyone by allowing charlatans to run megachurches that scammed old ladies out of their pensions with faith healing. You know, when they're not having sex with male escorts while zonked out on meth. Oh, but he just bought the meth a single time with the intention of throwing it away. How did he know where to score some crystal? Stop asking question! Also, it's totally normal to get a "massage" from a gay escort that's zonked out on meth in a hotel room.
I fully expect the Christcucks to get mad at me for pointing out why people like me became disillusioned with the faith instead of being mad at the people who do the thing that pushed people away in the first place.
I’m as mad about those people using the church for greed and all other evil. As a kid we left a church because the pastor was sleeping around and involved with drugs. We found a great one after that. Do you still believe or totally close off to going to church again?
Personally, I don't bother with organized religions. Keyword: organized. Growing older, I can find some truths in parts of scripture and I can apply it to my day to day. But going to a proscribed church only ever reminds me of how faith and belief has become an utterly utilitarian force for self-serving interests instead of the feeling and emotion that gives one purpose.
That's what people in general should do. Take some bits and pieces of advice and apply it in your life not worship a god just to be a decent person. But I think for some people, that's just an impossible task.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
That's no excuse. The fact that we've trained our society to have a slave mentality means that our objective should be to help them free themselves, not "find a new master".
You do realize that you are arguing for eugenics right? Or at the very least Social Darwinism.
Even Buddhists Monks, who spend their whole lives training with a focus on self awareness and self improvement, realize that not all people are capable of understanding themselves. Some people are just not capable; either by genetics (they are just too stupid) or by circumstance which is mostly lack of motivation. These people are shackled to the animal-self and react only to external stimulus. I'd argue that they are not even really sentient.
What should happen to these people? Just ... put them on boats like the Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B? That would be kind of hard on them, right?
A just society should have a way for them to contribute and to find the happiness they can. Most of them can hold down a job and pay bills and taxes. They just ... live day to day, paycheck to paycheck. They cheer for the Raiders like their dad did and vote Democrat because they live in California, and that is what everyone does.
No society in the history of the world has figured out how to force them into self-actualization. The closest we have come is post industrial WASP culture; which made them useful and productive rather than dissatisfied and rebellious.
That's the problem with normies in general. The fact that they can get easily mislead into taking jabs that they shouldn't despite the fact there are information everywhere that it's not recommended. These are the types that should just probably go back to being religious. People like us can easily be decent without relying on religion.
Basically all of the Mega Churches are scams, most of the zealots were idiots and grifters, the entire "pray the gay away" movement was a fraud, and now we've got pastors responding to the stupidity of the Evangelist movement by becoming card-carrying progressives. The Anglican Church might as well be the Church of Satan at this point, which might actually be less ridiculous and degenerate.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism. You know, where the Pope is a literal Communist acolyte following Liberation Theology, and is the reference to "The Cathedral" we talk about, and whom invented the concept of Social Justice in the first place.
I'm with... FCD... on this, part of the problem here is how organized religion behaves. We need more local preachers standing up against this shit, and people learning valuable lessons of individual responsibility from the Bible, rather than collectivist apologetics.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism.
I know I might be biased on this point due to the way I lean, but its part of the whole point of Protestantism, and I find it strange that so many [for want of a better phrase] "neo-evangelicals" reject it in favor of Catholicism. They point to the fact that a lot of denominations of Protestants are just as, if not more, pozzed and in the grip of Liberation Theology than the Catholics, but that kind of misses the point.
At its most basic level, Protestantism says "When all else fails, you are your own church." Its why there are like five-hundred different Protestant faiths: "I dont like this denomination. I am going to go make my own! With blackjack and hookers! Wait..."
I have seen some stats that the average American Non-Religious individual is still more religious than most European Christians, in that they pray more often and go to church more often, they just dont have a defined church. Which tells me that the issue is not that Americans are becoming less religious. They just dont have a church they feel meets their needs. Which is probably what will spawn the 4th Great Awakening that gets brought up from time to time (since similar issues caused the 3rd)
Well I do believe the Bible condemns homosexuality amongst thousands of other things. My grandfather was always suspicious of churches that had a massive population. But I agree about studying the word. I love my church but it’s not the church that offers salvation. It’s Christ. But the progressive Christian movement is dangerous because they seem to want to conform to the world.
I think the solution mostly revolves around Americans bankrupting bad churches by not attending, and going to churches and donating to them when they do good work for the community.
Exactly. I have no problem donating to my church or volunteering because they’ve shown me they actually help. But you are right. Not all churches do. I’ve seen the bad side as well
But of course, you opening with acting like a massive asshole by lumping everyone in the faith in with the absolute worst people in their group is totally okay.
Really jogs the noggin' why no one even wants to reason with you to get you to join back.
They won't engage with you to change your mind, they want you to stay right where you are. Children who can't differentiate between imaginary and reality are much easier to prosletyse to anyway. Besides the godboys need people like you on the outside that they can point at and feel holier than and morally superior to. Its all part of the christcuck cope.
It really sounds like you hate the organization, and then get mad at everyone involved in the overall faith. As if every Christian in the country held a vote about any of these things, or that even a majority of them approved of it once they found out.
Many people think the Left and the Right in the USA are two sides of the same coin, but even the craziest people on the Right like Jack Thompson thought banning video games was unconstitutional. When you dig deeper and look at the facts, you realize there’s no comparison between the two sides.
Underestimated how fat the cop and girl would be, but not bad.
the bad kids are shown as white and the girl isn't a tub of lard but otherwise pretty close
Not enough trannies and ghetto shit heads in this prediction, but otherwise spot on.
They were far too optimistic.
What about homie rocking the "my ancestor 🐵" shirt? lmao
return to monke
I see kids wearing t-shirts glorifying rappers on a daily basis.
YOU AND ME BABY AINT NOTHING BUT MAMMALS SO LETS DO IT LIKE THEY DO ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL
There's plenty of "Evolution Of Man" image lampoonery.
Sexual orientation counseling? Try sex change counseling.
Replace the evolution reference with I frickin' love science. Guns? Debatable. Students rarely bring them to school. The problem we're seeing is younger kids getting involved in gangs and street crime.
They were also a lot safer when they could. Or when you could mail order a Winchester. It wasn't until they started issuing "gun-free zones" and other bullshit that issues started to emerge.
Religion is wrong when it comes to technology and scientific progress, but right when it comes to society and morality
Turns out, you remove a focus on an ideology focused on legacy, tradition and restraint of base urges, people will act like degenerate hedonists, who knew apart from evangelists, philosophers, every army drill instructor etc.
Oh yeah, all the hoodrats using dad's Smith and Weston.
Looks like he ripped a page out of a Cyperpunk TRPG book for the top image.
Weird how the woman is the only one without an extra hole in their head.
Also, you leave my boy Pesci out of this!
Hers is in her belly button, which they inaccurately guessed would be covered by her shirt.
Everyone know the true whore piecing is septum.
There's three other locations that they start with before they gain the confidence to publicly display their insecurity.
That's why I say it's the "true" one.
She's mostly limited to the "Sex" tattoo, implying that she's rather loose and open.
LOL I was thinking the exact same thing. Or Shadowrun. It's got that art style.
We should have listened.
UK coming in with that 'bible bad' save.
Is that from a chick tract?
Negative, it's from: Truth for Youth Abridged Bible with Comics by Revival Fires International.
But the guns are illegal so it's fine
lol I saw this posted on reddit yesterday
That would be fatherless households caused by feminism, which the evangelical right also opposed. They had the cause wrong but they also opposed the actual cause. Not a bad score card all things considered.
Which you can connect right back to feminism decoupling sex from marriage, meaning women are now bred constantly with poor stock of men. The same type of guy to be a deadbeat, is also the type to pass on impulsive, violent and overall bad genes. Meaning the kid was born with a bad hand.
Which holistically also means that bad hand is exacerbated by their mother's poor quality. Because the type to have sex with Tyrone the Hoodrat isn't providing a good nurture either.
Impulsive genes can also be hyper-competitive genes. They just require more social training to learn how to harness these impulses in a productive way.
Impulsive, violent males tend towards high-risk behavior, which lowers their average life-span, but can have high rewards, both genetically and socially.
For example Rock Stars are highly competitive, highly motivated and have a bonkers high risk lifestyle. Successful rock stars are also drowning in reproduction opportunities.
They can, but again of the women likely to have sex with the type of bottom barrel men that we are speaking of in this case, the training to properly apply these impulses and the call of their own DNA is unlikely to even get a foundation.
These hyper-competitive genes are also anathemic to a functional and cohesive "society." For every single success, there are dozens if not hundreds of failures. Not just failures to succeed or breed, but be a net negative to society. For every pop culture "sociopath" who becomes a CEO, there are dozens if not hundreds in jail after committing atrocities. For every hoodrat who escaped to become a millionaire, there are thousands of graves of those who did the same thing and didn't get lucky.
Its the same thought process that creates the "alpha male breeds all the women, makes the betas raise them" problem. Which our ancestors figured out thousands of years ago just creates chaos as the less successful males have either no reason to try (as they know they can't win) or lash out with their own impotent violence. Both result in near complete societal failure, because civilization is built on the back of young men sacrificing in the hopes they will get that simple family opportunity.
Point being, while in exceptional cases it benefits everyone greatly to have these hyper-competitive males, it does also great damage to have them out in the wild. And in the modern day, there is no curb to their ambitions on average. No father to teach them, no family to balance them, no social circles to teach them proper behavior. Just wild gorillas left to pound their chest.
As if the distinctions we're talking about are more impactful than the promotion of crime as a culture, the inculcation of race hatred, the dependency on the state, mass fatherlessness, and rampant drug abuse.
Most of those were caused by political policy poisoning incentives, and a culture which promoted them.
I'd add in most of the satanic panic as well that leaked into the 90s from the 80s, namely their opposition to rock and metal music. Considering WotC though, they might have stumbled into something about DnD though. Wrong reasonings, but still ended up being right.
The "satanic panic" stuff was started by the Finders cult having satanic rituals with kids in a tunnel. As well as the increasing amounts of child abductions and abuse in military daycares.
All of the other stuff was to help cover up those facts.
TSR was in charge of D&D/AD&D up until the mid-late 90s, when they went bankrupt; WotC bought them out then; I was actively playing at the time. Chick tracts had been ranting about it pretty much since the original D&D box sets with the shitty blue dice were a thing.
Well realistically now Hasbro. So now corporate globohomo evil is involved. In addition to whatever weird Seattle hippy evil they had going on.
Well, I haven't played since (TSR-owned) second edition, and I was only a player. My RPG was Werewolf: the Apocalypse, anyway. I still have that set from back in the 2e days, so I don't need to buy any more. :P
It was less that DnD was evil and more that actual occultists saw its popularity as a way to recruit. Which they do. Maybe overblown, but it makes sense.
Magic the Gathering is innocent, though.
Or that violent kids is a bad thing when the violent ones are good. We need some crusades.
Well, maybe if they didn't alienate everyone by allowing charlatans to run megachurches that scammed old ladies out of their pensions with faith healing. You know, when they're not having sex with male escorts while zonked out on meth. Oh, but he just bought the meth a single time with the intention of throwing it away. How did he know where to score some crystal? Stop asking question! Also, it's totally normal to get a "massage" from a gay escort that's zonked out on meth in a hotel room.
Of course, the only thing that changes with them is they moved onto young girls. Or maybe not.
I fully expect the Christcucks to get mad at me for pointing out why people like me became disillusioned with the faith instead of being mad at the people who do the thing that pushed people away in the first place.
I’m as mad about those people using the church for greed and all other evil. As a kid we left a church because the pastor was sleeping around and involved with drugs. We found a great one after that. Do you still believe or totally close off to going to church again?
Personally, I don't bother with organized religions. Keyword: organized. Growing older, I can find some truths in parts of scripture and I can apply it to my day to day. But going to a proscribed church only ever reminds me of how faith and belief has become an utterly utilitarian force for self-serving interests instead of the feeling and emotion that gives one purpose.
I can respect that.
That's what people in general should do. Take some bits and pieces of advice and apply it in your life not worship a god just to be a decent person. But I think for some people, that's just an impossible task.
Think about how many people you know who are incapable of self-analysis.
They literally can't do what you are suggesting. They require social pressure and simple, easy lessons to keep them from turning into the socialist rank and file or whatever the degenerate trend of the day.
Thanks public education!
That's no excuse. The fact that we've trained our society to have a slave mentality means that our objective should be to help them free themselves, not "find a new master".
You do realize that you are arguing for eugenics right? Or at the very least Social Darwinism.
Even Buddhists Monks, who spend their whole lives training with a focus on self awareness and self improvement, realize that not all people are capable of understanding themselves. Some people are just not capable; either by genetics (they are just too stupid) or by circumstance which is mostly lack of motivation. These people are shackled to the animal-self and react only to external stimulus. I'd argue that they are not even really sentient.
What should happen to these people? Just ... put them on boats like the Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B? That would be kind of hard on them, right?
A just society should have a way for them to contribute and to find the happiness they can. Most of them can hold down a job and pay bills and taxes. They just ... live day to day, paycheck to paycheck. They cheer for the Raiders like their dad did and vote Democrat because they live in California, and that is what everyone does.
No society in the history of the world has figured out how to force them into self-actualization. The closest we have come is post industrial WASP culture; which made them useful and productive rather than dissatisfied and rebellious.
That's the problem with normies in general. The fact that they can get easily mislead into taking jabs that they shouldn't despite the fact there are information everywhere that it's not recommended. These are the types that should just probably go back to being religious. People like us can easily be decent without relying on religion.
If there’s bits worth paying attention to, it all is. And what it says is that a church was established.
The spirit of the Reformation carries on.
Honestly, how many others were doing it?
Basically all of the Mega Churches are scams, most of the zealots were idiots and grifters, the entire "pray the gay away" movement was a fraud, and now we've got pastors responding to the stupidity of the Evangelist movement by becoming card-carrying progressives. The Anglican Church might as well be the Church of Satan at this point, which might actually be less ridiculous and degenerate.
The only solution I've seen from the degeneration of Christendom is to embrace Catholicism. You know, where the Pope is a literal Communist acolyte following Liberation Theology, and is the reference to "The Cathedral" we talk about, and whom invented the concept of Social Justice in the first place.
I'm with... FCD... on this, part of the problem here is how organized religion behaves. We need more local preachers standing up against this shit, and people learning valuable lessons of individual responsibility from the Bible, rather than collectivist apologetics.
I know I might be biased on this point due to the way I lean, but its part of the whole point of Protestantism, and I find it strange that so many [for want of a better phrase] "neo-evangelicals" reject it in favor of Catholicism. They point to the fact that a lot of denominations of Protestants are just as, if not more, pozzed and in the grip of Liberation Theology than the Catholics, but that kind of misses the point.
At its most basic level, Protestantism says "When all else fails, you are your own church." Its why there are like five-hundred different Protestant faiths: "I dont like this denomination. I am going to go make my own! With blackjack and hookers! Wait..."
I have seen some stats that the average American Non-Religious individual is still more religious than most European Christians, in that they pray more often and go to church more often, they just dont have a defined church. Which tells me that the issue is not that Americans are becoming less religious. They just dont have a church they feel meets their needs. Which is probably what will spawn the 4th Great Awakening that gets brought up from time to time (since similar issues caused the 3rd)
Well I do believe the Bible condemns homosexuality amongst thousands of other things. My grandfather was always suspicious of churches that had a massive population. But I agree about studying the word. I love my church but it’s not the church that offers salvation. It’s Christ. But the progressive Christian movement is dangerous because they seem to want to conform to the world.
I think the solution mostly revolves around Americans bankrupting bad churches by not attending, and going to churches and donating to them when they do good work for the community.
Exactly. I have no problem donating to my church or volunteering because they’ve shown me they actually help. But you are right. Not all churches do. I’ve seen the bad side as well
"Maybe if I ask like a massive asshole towards this guy struggling to find reason with faith, that will change his mind!"
Nice job proving my point.
But of course, you opening with acting like a massive asshole by lumping everyone in the faith in with the absolute worst people in their group is totally okay.
Really jogs the noggin' why no one even wants to reason with you to get you to join back.
They won't engage with you to change your mind, they want you to stay right where you are. Children who can't differentiate between imaginary and reality are much easier to prosletyse to anyway. Besides the godboys need people like you on the outside that they can point at and feel holier than and morally superior to. Its all part of the christcuck cope.
It really sounds like you hate the organization, and then get mad at everyone involved in the overall faith. As if every Christian in the country held a vote about any of these things, or that even a majority of them approved of it once they found out.
"There's sin and hypocrisy in the world therefore Christianity is false" isn't much of a position.
Wait whose fault is it again that charlatans are "allowed" to run a church?
Many people think the Left and the Right in the USA are two sides of the same coin, but even the craziest people on the Right like Jack Thompson thought banning video games was unconstitutional. When you dig deeper and look at the facts, you realize there’s no comparison between the two sides.